Are you ready for an even more expensive Volt?
posted at 6:46 pm on August 19, 2011 by Allahpundit
Imagine the look on the face of the poor schmuck who bought a Chevy Volt to impress liberal women when a Cadillac Volt comes rolling up beside him. Such is the fate of the beta male, my friends. Even when we drop ridiculous amounts of money on status symbols for the smug, somehow we’re out-smugged.
I’m saving my money for the Corvette Volt, which really would be the perfect ride for a mid-life crisis. And a good thing too, because I’ll need 20 years to save up to get one.
The General announced today that the Cadillac Converj concept has been approved for production, although in keeping with Caddy’s alphabet-soup naming it will be called the ELR…
The Volt is indeed pricey — the model we tested came in at $44,680 before the federal EV tax credit — because the underlying technology, namely the 16-kilowatt-hour battery, is expensive. Rolling out the Voltec drivetrain in a Cadillac won’t do much to change that, because it won’t increase volume enough to bring economy of scale, Bragman said, but it will make it easier for consumers to accept the price.
That’s why you see luxury brands like BMW, Lexus and Mercedes-Benz rolling out upscale hybrid sedans.
“That cost is more easily masked in a car like this,” he said. “GM can better accommodate the price without the sticker shock. You expect a Cadillac to cost a lot. You don’t expect a Chevrolet to cost a lot.”
Excellent point, although it stands the promise of electric cars on its head. These things were supposed to make driving less expensive in the long run through savings on gas. The Volt ended up being so costly that you can afford a Prius and 100,000 miles’ worth of fuel for the same price. So now they’ve gone in the opposite direction, marketing the electric engine not as a solution to a budget crunch for a middle-class family but as a status symbol for the well-heeled green-about-town who wants you to know (a) he’s loaded and (b) he cares. I wonder how long it’ll be before the Caddy’s out-selling the Volt. Probably … not long:
[A] new study by CNW marketing raises a red flag, finding that the potential buyers GM is most counting on are rapidly losing interest in the Volt. In March, 21% of so-called Early Adapters said they were “very likely” to consider buying a Volt, while 38.1% said they were “likely” to do the same. That slipped to 14.6% saying “very likely” in July, and 31.1% “likely.” Among EV Enthusiasts, reports the CNW study, the number of those likely or very likely to consider Volt fell from a combined 71% to 51% during the same four-month period.
“It’s way too early to tell, but the signs aren’t encouraging,” said CNW’s chief analyst Art Spinella. When it comes to mainstream consumers Volt has all but slipped off the radar screen, only about 3% of new car buyers likely to consider the Chevrolet Volt, the analyst added.
The big problem is the plug-in’s price, CNW data indicate.
The Cadillac’s sticker price should be somewhere south of $57,000. Here’s a promo video. I can’t lie: It’s looking good. Picture me rolling with a jaunty “You Can’t Hug Your Children With Nuclear Arms” bumper sticker affixed just so. Epic.
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Yes. Bet you have a nice Kia.
A Caddy is the fastest 4 door sedan in the world.
GM has about 3 UAW workers left. Which makes threads like this silly. The stupid hatred of these Walmart shopping losers is incredible.
IlikedAUH2O on August 20, 2011 at 9:47 AM
Jealous of Union workers? I am happy that they are working. Many of them are minorities. You must be very successful and generous.
IlikedAUH2O on August 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM
Wow. Shortest path to “You’re a racist!” I’ve ever seen.
Akzed on August 20, 2011 at 11:40 AM
I have a 2004 Audi S4, first year with the V8. A CTS-V would indeed be faster, for as long as it continued to function. However, my seats are much better, I have functional rearward visibility, and comparing current-year models (there was no CTS-V then), I paid $10k less. Anybody with the extra cash to spare who’d go with a CTS-V over the current BMW M3 (dollar for dollar quite possibly the finest mass-produced performance automobile ever built) is an outright idiot. As anyone who’s ever owned or even test driven a Porsche Cayman can tell you, there’s much more to a driving experience than the run from 0-60. (And as anyone who’s ever owned a GM car can tell you, they don’t take long to start falling apart.)
Blacklake on August 20, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Hey, that was a real “Keeping up with the Kardashians” quality car video. Ah, the pseudo-drama of multiple camera angles. Makes me want to run out and buy one, oh, about never.
Oh, and that “Nuclear Arms” bumper sticker will look a little out of place if your utility get a lot of their generating capacity from nuclear plants. So much for green fantasy.
dissent555 on August 20, 2011 at 1:33 PM
“Jealous of Union workers? I am happy that they are working. Many of them are minorities. You must be very successful and generous.
IlikedAUH2O on August 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM”
There are union workers working for Cadillac as well. It’s competition. Some will win, some will lose. With the Volt… well those will lose… until their benefits kick in, and the rest of swill be bailing Chevy out… again.
Maybe they should slap a bunch of rubber band powered propellers and solar panels onto soap box cars. Perhaps a new horse drawn buggy?
Maybe its time for Chevy to just breed horses & make leather saddles…
Danny on August 20, 2011 at 5:08 PM
Watch whom you call an idiot, moron.
Your remarks show you never had your precious Audi out of a parking lot to run. I have run CTS-Vs on a track. Check Bondurant, moron.
Here’s to your real fantasy:
Sieg Heil!!!!
Pssst..they lost, too. Loser.
IlikedAUH2O on August 20, 2011 at 5:12 PM
Meanwhile, Costco is removing car chargers because “they never get used”.
Of course the Ca idiots are organizing a protest…
mad scientist on August 20, 2011 at 5:29 PM
Caddy straight line performance only? Um, your profound ignorance is showing. And check JD Power on Quality. OMG you people.
I don’t know why I waste my time since it would be fine with me if GM died. I also don’t believe you even have an A4 or even an AUDI but since you are such a quality expert….
Audi was about 26th in initial quality before 2008 and was about 40th sometime before that. Check JD Power. And anyone I talk to knows GM cars are junk and don’t last? Yes, they built lots of junk. So did Audi. The Asian cars were far superior for years. I couldn’t swear about the Germans except for the Beetle. Now you have anecdotal stories about junk US cars? Good for you.
Are you talking to me? You are talking to me? I had junk German cars. My first wife was German and I had her and a German car which a Mercedes mechanic described as a “Frankenstein Monster” when we met at a club we both belonged to. Porcshe getting me over 0 to 60 times since that is apparently all Caddies can do. Ha Ha moron,
Caddy set the course record at Nürburgring. In a CTS-V. There are Porsches around there. There are curves. They have it on tape. They even have music for you to listen to while you think about how smart you are. You can find it on line.
IlikedAUH2O on August 20, 2011 at 5:33 PM
The Cadillac is priced to undercut the Model S, Tesla’s reasonably priced, 4-door pure-battery family sedan. But … don’t let mere facts interrupt a perfectly good, cluster hatefest.
silverfox on August 20, 2011 at 5:36 PM
LOL, silverfox only shows up for these threads.
Tesla’s financial difficulties are well known; if this car doesn’t sell the company’s history. The model is isn’t even close to a family sedan and $57K or $77K isn’t reasonable.
GM is “stuck on stupid” for doubling down on the rapidly failing Volt by putting the same drive train into a Caddy.
Cadillac is building a reputation for performance; I don’t see that from this one.
mad scientist on August 20, 2011 at 5:47 PM
The electricity required to power a Cadillac version for any distance at any speed is going to cost more than 50% as much as gas, and with all the inconveniences of a plug-in vehicle. It looks fast! I’m sure it would get to 100MPH. But then it would lose half the battery charge/distance. Finally, even the slightest failure mode of the battery system is a small-scale environmental disaster. Green how?
Freelancer on August 20, 2011 at 5:55 PM
Oh, BTW, regarding those OLD GM warranties that the NEW GM says are not good?
Barry says the government will back them.
Thank you, American Taxpayer!
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090330/CARNEWS/903309977
GarandFan on August 20, 2011 at 6:08 PM
How I was made an ass of and may I burn with my poor dead son if this isn’t true
I was looking at Teslas. They are like $164,000. And (gulp) tiny.
Now I have to admit that I wish some of the enviromentalists wishes would come true. They would be upset if they knew which ones I like.
So my son and I were visiting his dental guy’s office. He told the ortho about the Tesla. I was feeling noble but wondering about the lousy 200 mile range. This was in Northern Virginia as a guy told me that you ought to have your head examined to have one in Colorado or LA.
Anyway, the Ortho laughed at me and pointed out the lack of cool noise then mentioned that all our electricity came from oil!
I can’t win.
IlikedAUH2O on August 20, 2011 at 6:37 PM
Oh, BTW, regarding those OLD GM warranties that the NEW GM says are not good?
Barry says the government will back them.
Thank you, American Taxpayer!
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090330/CARNEWS/903309977
GarandFan on August 20, 2011 at 6:08 PM
Barry said this in 2009; that statement hit it’s expiration date over a year ago.
mad scientist on August 20, 2011 at 11:10 PM
You finally said something worthwhile.
Blacklake on August 21, 2011 at 12:32 AM
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