Education Secretary pounds Perry on Texas schools

posted at 4:05 pm on August 18, 2011 by Tina Korbe

The early attacks on Gov. Rick Perry come as no surprise: He’s a formidable candidate and, as such, is bound to take a beating from the administration and the MSM. At least Secretary of Education Arne Duncan had the sense to criticize Perry for something outside the unassailable fortress of his jobs record. It would have been better for Arne, though, if he had thought through his remarks a bit more. From Bloomberg:

U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Texas’s school system “has really struggled” under Governor Rick Perry, a Republican candidate for president, and the state’s substandard schools do a disservice to children.

“Far too few of their high school graduates are actually prepared to go on to college,” Duncan said on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital With Al Hunt” airing Aug. 19- 20. “I feel very, very badly for the children there.”

“You have seen massive increases in class size,” Duncan said of the Texas public school system during Perry’s terms as governor since December 2000. “You’ve seen cutbacks in funding. It doesn’t serve the children well. It doesn’t serve the state well. It doesn’t serve the state’s economy well. And ultimately it hurts the country.”

Note the focus of Duncan’s comments: They turn on the fallacy that more money automatically means a better education. It’s an oft-repeated statistic, but it’s repeated for the simple reason that it makes the point: Since 1985, real federal spending on K-12 education has increased by 138 percent. On a per-student basis, federal spending on K-12 education has tripled since 1970. Yet, long-term measures of American students’ academic achievement have not seen similar increases.

Furthermore, Gov. Perry understands what too many governors don’t: Federal dollars for education — particularly in the case of Race to the Top — come with strings attached, even if those strings are hidden, as in the case of the “voluntary” national standards that accompanied RTTT funding (the adoption of which greatly improved the likelihood a state would score money from the federal government). Perry actually turned down federal dollars because he recognizes the role of the states, teachers and parents in education. The real question is: Who do you want to direct your child’s education? You and the teacher? Or distant, unelected bureaucrats?

Perry has made it possible for Texas to adopt some of the most rigorous standards in the country. In September 2009, Education Week even cited Texas as a leader in the adoption of college-ready standards. Perhaps Duncan feels spurned to have said what he said. It must have shocked him to encounter a politician who would actually say “no” to money for the sake of the freedom and flexibility that actually serve children’s educational needs well.


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“This president is grossly inept” — Trump

The WH wish to deflect from “Jobs, jobs, jobs”

It’s still the economy, stupid.

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Close the Department of Education and send Arne packing…

d1carter on August 18, 2011 at 4:09 PM

The DC schools are a dismal failure and get the most $$$ in the nation. What does Duncan say about that?

Also, that study they did where they threw all this money at schools in the midwest (Kansas?) proved to be another bust.

Blake on August 18, 2011 at 4:09 PM

What’s funny is that if you break it down by race, whites in Texas do better than whites in Illinois… Hispanics in Texas do better than Hispanics in Illinois… and blacks in Texas do better than Blacks in Illinois…

And, here is the results of Duncan’s leadership…

Chicago 8th-graders score near bottom in national science tests

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/3991296-418/chicago-8th-graders-score-near-bottom-in-national-science-tests.html

ninjapirate on August 18, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Get the Federal Government out of education.

Period. The. End.

Knucklehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:11 PM

What’s funny is that if you break it down by race, whites in Texas do better than whites in Illinois… Hispanics in Texas do better than Hispanics in Illinois… and blacks in Texas do better than Blacks in Illinois…

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html

http://nationsreportcard.gov/science_2009/g8_state.asp?subtab_id=Tab_6&tab_id=tab1#tabsContainer

ninjapirate on August 18, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Texas schools score low in national rankings for a very good reason. We are required to educate millions of illegal aliens and children of illegal aliens who do not speak or understand English. Whether you like it or not, non-English speaking children score far lower than their English speaking counterparts on standardized tests.

edgehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:12 PM

If Perry win’s, maybe he will defund the education agency?
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letget on August 18, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Gee Arne, maybe if Texas teachers didn’t have to spend so much time and attention on the Spanish-speaking illegal alien kids, who are typically far behind their same-age peers, then the other kids would be faring better.

AZCoyote on August 18, 2011 at 4:13 PM

On Texas and Education. This isn’t my work, but comes from garnet92 and his article linked to by Hot Air:

“6. Texas ranks poorly in educational spending and high school graduations

That statement is true. Texas does rank near the bottom of generalized rankings in spending per student and high school graduations, but as usual, those rankings alone are misleading. The statement is intended to imply that the state does a poor job of educating its students and therefore its Governor, Rick Perry is to blame. It’s just another two-for-one Texas/Perry smear.

With Perry as governor, how does education in Texas really compare with other states?

To see how Texas stacks up, we’ll compare Texas to Wisconsin. We chose Wisconsin because earlier this year, during their sit-ins and demonstrations, Wisconsin teachers compared their state’s (supposed) #2 ranking in ACT/SAT test scores directly to Texas (at #47). Their reason for comparing to Texas was that Wisconsin teachers are unionized while teacher unions are illegal in Texas. This direct comparison was intended to show the benefit of unionized teachers in educating our children.

However, those rankings were found to be: 1) obsolete, using 12-year-old data, and 2) used questionable methodology. The ranking was debunked by PolitiFact and the claim has since been removed from the union’s website, in other words, they stretched the facts to fit their agenda.

One facet that makes a Texas comparison to many other states is the racial makeup of the student population. Minority students – regardless of state – tend to score lower than white students on standardized tests, and the higher the proportion of minority students in a state the lower its overall test scores tend to be. Regardless of the reasons, the gap does exist, and it’s mathematical sophistry to compare the combined average test scores in a state like Wisconsin (4% black, 4% Hispanic) to a state like Texas (12% black, 30% Hispanic).

But let’s ignore that mismatch and compare them anyway – broken down by racial groups. We’ll compare some 2009 standardized test scores (the latest available) for 4th and 8th grade students in the areas of math, reading, and science. A pilot program for 12thgraders is being tested, but national comparisons are not yet possible for that grade. The data supporting the following rankings are found at the Nation’s Report Card website (link below the rankings).

2009 4th Grade Math

White students: Texas 254, Wisconsin 250 (national average 248)
Black students: Texas 231, Wisconsin 217 (national 222)
Hispanic students: Texas 233, Wisconsin 228 (national 227)

2009 8th Grade Math

White students: Texas 301, Wisconsin 294 (national 294)
Black students: Texas 272, Wisconsin 254 (national 260)
Hispanic students: Texas 277, Wisconsin 268 (national 260)

2009 4th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 232, Wisconsin 227 (national 229)
Black students: Texas 213, Wisconsin 192 (national 204)
Hispanic students: Texas 210, Wisconsin 202 (national 204)

2009 8th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 273, Wisconsin 271 (national 271)
Black students: Texas 249, Wisconsin 238 (national 245)
Hispanic students: Texas 251, Wisconsin 250 (national 248)

2009 4th Grade Science

White students: Texas 168, Wisconsin 164 (national 162)
Black students: Texas 139, Wisconsin 121 (national 127)
Hispanic students: Wisconsin 138, Texas 136 (national 130)

2009 8th Grade Science

White students: Texas 167, Wisconsin 165 (national 161)
Black students: Texas 133, Wisconsin 120 (national 125)
Hispanic students: Texas 141, Wisconsin 134 (national 131)

To recap: white students in Texas perform better than white students in Wisconsin, black students in Texas perform better than black students in Wisconsin, and Hispanic students in Texas perform better than Hispanic students in Wisconsin. In 18 separate ethnicity-controlled comparisons, the only one where Wisconsin students performed better than their peers in Texas was 4th grade science for Hispanic students (statistically insignificant), and this was reversed by 8th grade.

Further, Texas students exceeded the national average for their ethnic cohorts in all 18 comparisons; Wisconsinites were below the national average in 8, above average in 8. That bears repeating: Texas fourth and eighth graders outperformed the national average scores in all categories.

Perhaps the most striking thing in these numbers is the within-state gap between white and minority students. Not only did white Texas students outperform white Wisconsin students, the gap between white students and minority students in Texas was much less than the gap between white and minority students in Wisconsin.

In other words, students perform better in Texas schools than in Wisconsin schools – especially minority students.

The above statistics and narrative was taken from Iowahawk’s great blog site (but they have been verified against the Nation’s Report Card site which was their original source). Read Iowahawk’s complete analysis HERE.

And here is a link to the Nation’s Report Card site – the original source of the data so you can compare and contrast any other state(s) you’d like to see.

About the website:” The Nation’s Report CardTM informs the public about the academic achievement of elementary and secondary students in the United States. It communicates the findings of the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), a continuing and representative measure of achievement in various subjects over time.

NAEP is a congressionally authorized project of the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) within the Institute of Education Sciences of the U.S. Department of Education.”

And lastly, this little publicized fact, Texas owns the top two spots (#’s 1 and 2) in the America’s Best High Schools list (Newsweek, June 2011) and has 19 of the top 100 best high schools in the country. How can it be that Texas, with about 8 percent of the country’s population, places 19 schools in the top 100 high schools in the country (that’s 19 %)? Here’s a link to the Newsweek article [be aware that the site has some display formatting problems, you'll have to scroll down to see the schools, but the data is all there, it's just in need of some TLC].

Is Texas leading the nation is education spending or achievements? No, the state must do better. Unfortunately, school budgets are being cut as we speak and that doesn’t bode well for the future of our children. That must change.

But Texas isn’t really the educational cesspool that the original accusation would imply – in fact, Texas is doing fairly well when actual achievements are compared to national averages. Is Rick Perry responsible? In some small measure, he is. Just as it would be wrong to credit Perry with all of Texas’s achievements, it would be just as wrong to assume that all of Texas’ problems are his fault. As governor, he certainly did contribute to both good and bad aspects of Texas life.”

Fwiw to anybody here. Keep up the good work Tina, I enjoy everything you write.

Mike Rathbone on August 18, 2011 at 4:14 PM

The more the other attacks Perry, the more you know they are afraid of him. For good reason. Why, to believe them makes him seem unelectable.

And for that very reason we should looking at at Perry as quite electable indeed.

Thanks, the left.

You can keep deer in the headlight eyes Huntsman.

Sherman1864 on August 18, 2011 at 4:15 PM

And just what has Duncan ever done to boost test scores – beside ‘teach to the test’ regurgitation?

GarandFan on August 18, 2011 at 4:16 PM

There should not be a federal education secretary.

MassVictim on August 18, 2011 at 4:16 PM

What else is this guy going to say? President Perry may well abolish the Department of Education.

HondaV65 on August 18, 2011 at 4:16 PM

This is the pot calling the kettle black. His grammar is incorrect too. He should have said, I feel very, very bad…” not badly. Some Secretary of Education.

gitarfan on August 18, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Texas schools score low in national rankings for a very good reason. We are required to educate millions of illegal aliens and children of illegal aliens who do not speak or understand English.

Yep, in fact the Dallas ISD is such a haven for illegals that a few years ago the Superintendent proposed hiring illegals to teach so the the students could relate to them better, and no, i’m not kidding. That Superintendent is now in a Georgia school district, you have my sympathies Georgia.

clearbluesky on August 18, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Dissolve the dept. of education. They don’t educate. They just advocate and waste your taxes. Look at the overall results since their inception.

Fact, just the facts….

Schadenfreude on August 18, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Perhaps Mr. Duncan should start reading IowaHawk

Or better yet, go directly to the NAEP Website

For example:
Texas’ 8th grade science performance for hispanics = 141… tied for fifth in the nation and 10 points above the national average of 131

phreshone on August 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM

President Perry may well abolish the Department of Education.

HondaV65 on August 18, 2011 at 4:16 PM

The DOE should never have existed. It was Carter’s sop to the teachers’ unions. Responsibility for education is nowhere to be found in the Constitution.

Mary in LA on August 18, 2011 at 4:21 PM

The problem with the IowaHawk rebuttal is that it raises the Achievement Gap issue, and thus gives the Dems an opportunity to cry Racist! at the top of their lungs once again. Like entitlements, it’s probably a worthwhile topic on which to have a serious national conversation, but it invites all kinds of political risk.

Dudley Smith on August 18, 2011 at 4:22 PM

And the Chicago Public School system under Arne’s watch churned out Einstein after Einstein… /s

Neo-con Artist on August 18, 2011 at 4:23 PM

Yeah, those poor people in Texas. I’m sure that there will be a mass migration from Texas to Illinois now that Arne Duncan has cleared everything up.

SlaveDog on August 18, 2011 at 4:23 PM

Why is King Barry’s Administration attacking a primary runner? Have they gone after Mittens and Bachmann like this?

Knucklehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Wow, Duncan doesn’t let the facts get in the way of his party politics.

Vashta.Nerada on August 18, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Close the Department of Education and send Arne packing…

d1carter on August 18, 2011 at 4:09 PM

This.

Rational Thought on August 18, 2011 at 4:26 PM

clearbluesky on August 18, 2011 at 4:17 PM

And even worse, the DISD was getting fake papers and SS#’s for these illegal teachers. But of course, no heads rolled, and the worthless Dallas Morning News dropped it.

mrsmwp on August 18, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Gee, Arne. How did Chicago Unified School District do under your purview? Does a 37% low or limited literacy rate sound familiar to you? How about the dropout rate? 57% with a high “dropout factory” population? How about that fine fine fine 6% college degree rate for CPS grads (or the 3% college degree rate for black or hispanic CPS grads?) Yeah, they do REAL well compared to the 64% rate from the rest of the nation. Super job you did there, Arne.

rotorhead on August 18, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Knucklehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Romney is not considered a threat. Bachmann’s being savaged by their lapdog media. Perry is a brand new legitimate threat.

kingsjester on August 18, 2011 at 4:28 PM

hmmm…I wonder how he feels about CALIFORNIA schools, since Texas ranks ABOVE them????

If we have to have an “Education Secretary” (and we do NOT!!!), shouldn’t that person at least focus on, I dunno, EDUCATION??? Instead of trying to get Obama re-elected???

Justrand on August 18, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Unfortunately in this day and age I think alot of parents would rather have distant, unelected bureaucrats decide their children’s education.

vcferlita on August 18, 2011 at 4:29 PM

“Far too few of their high school graduates are actually prepared to go on to college,”

Are we talking about Texas or New York here?

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Wow the whole administration is going after Perry…who’s next…dept of interior?

cmsinaz on August 18, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Why is King Barry’s Administration attacking a primary runner? Have they gone after Mittens and Bachmann like this?

Knucklehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:24 PM

They’ve made (to my knowledge) a few jabs at Mitt, but it would appear they are scared of Perry

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Can someone explain why the federal govt has a department of education? I have a school district that is paid with a combination of city and state taxes. Our district is pretty good too(and I’m in Texas).

If it wasn’t for Dallas ISD and other ridiculously bad school districts, Texas would be looking pretty good in statistics.

jeffn21 on August 18, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Interesting press release from the TEA (Texas Education Agency) just yesterday.

2011 Class Posts Record-High ACT Math Score

By: Metro News

Texas Education Agency officials say rigorous graduation requirements are producing results as the class of 2011 posted a record-high math score on the ACT college entrance exam.

The Texas average score was 21-and-a-half out of a possible score of 36 and was higher than the national average of 21-point-one. The 2011 class was the first group of students following the required four-years of high school study in math, English, science and social studies. ACT scores from 2007 to 2011 showed increases in all four subjects. Although the number of test takers increased by nearly ten-thousand from 2010, the composite score for all four subjects held steady at 20-point-eight.

Kind of refutes the old “they’re not ready for college” argument, huh Arne?

Matticus Finch on August 18, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Maybe Chitcago’s finest would be man enough to start comparing apples to apples.

It’s not a secret that Texas has tons of Hispanics, in which English is a 2nd language. This does weigh down the average.

BUT

When comparing to other states’ Hispanics, Texas is as strong as most any state. Apples to apples.

So come on, Arne. Man up. How do these students compare to the equivalent in Chitcago? Yes, I thought you’d run away from that one. Pu$$y.

MNHawk on August 18, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Wow the whole administration is going after Perry…who’s next…dept of interior?

cmsinaz on August 18, 2011 at 4:30 PM

The better question to ask is which member of MSNBC is up next – you know, that wing of the government.

Anyway, which Bushy is up next?

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:31 PM

“Far too few of their high school graduates are actually prepared to go on to college,”

And given the way this crappy economy is going, it may be a much better choice for a lot of them to go to trade school and become a mechanic or a beautician then to rack up thousands of dollars in student loan debt at a University to end up with a worthless piece of paper in Liberal Arts. So thanks, Texas.

BakerAllie on August 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM

“I feel very, very badly for the children there.”

Hey, Arne – how do you feel about children in public schools in Washington D.C.?

Buy Danish on August 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM

This is the pot calling the kettle black. His grammar is incorrect too. He should have said, I feel very, very bad…” not badly. Some Secretary of Education.

gitarfan on August 18, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Beat me to it. That was the first thing I noticed in his quote.

Sad commentary — the freakin’ (please feel free to correct this term) NATIONAL head of education can’t make a grammatically correct statement. And we are paying his salary??

BTW – maybe he DOES feel badly.

fred5678 on August 18, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Wow the whole administration is going after Perry…who’s next…dept of interior?

cmsinaz on August 18, 2011 at 4:30 PM

The EPA per my libtard political consultant neighbor. Next talking point will be about how dirty the air is in Texas.

Wait for it, it’s coming.

Knucklehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Wow the whole administration is going after Perry…who’s next…dept of interior?

cmsinaz on August 18, 2011 at 4:30 PM

You make a good point..:)

PS..Big Sis in next!..:)

Dire Straits on August 18, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Failing Grades: The 25 Worst Performing Public Schools in the U.S.A.

Didn’t Barack Obama serve in the Illinois State Senate and the U.S. Senate from Illinois? Might explain that social promotion he got through their Democrat party system in Illinois :)

None of the 25 worse schools are in Texas, but the majority are in Illinois.

This was kind of a dumb attack by the Obama team in the age of the internet. It’s called Google Arne.

Dr Evil on August 18, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Arne Duncan has headed up the US DOE with an excess of 100 billion dollars to spend every year.

over $1,000,000,000 every year 3 years.

Shouldn’t all our kids be rocket surgeons with that much money?

batterup on August 18, 2011 at 4:35 PM

The EPA per my libtard political consultant neighbor. Next talking point will be about how dirty the air is in Texas.

Wait for it, it’s coming.

Knucklehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:33 PM

I’m sure the air quality in parts of Chicago is superb!

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:35 PM

But does anyone else have the feeling that by going after Perry, they’re essentially helping him get the nomination?

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Here’s what Arne Duncan is pushing:

http://trevorloudon.com/2011/08/warning-federal-education-standards-coming-soon/

Best explanation I’ve heard yet on what’s about to hit American public education. It’s just a wee bit unconstitutional but that doesn’t bother Duncan and company. Anything he says, I’m against. Any educational program he disses, it must hold water.

Tina, keep exposing Arne Duncan for what he is. A globalist who wants to sell education to private companies while using taxpayer funds. He touts school choice. What a joke! You can’t have a true choice when that “choice” follows the same mandates and national curriculum as the traditional public school.

manateespirit on August 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Y’all this is just the start of the education system attack on Texas.

Texas is a leader in charter schools
Texas Education Agency – Charter Schools

As governor, Perry has been deriding the cost of a college education and has been working with Texas colleges to come up with a $10,000 college degree.

cozmo on August 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

What’s funny is that if you break it down by race, whites in Texas do better than whites in Illinois… Hispanics in Texas do better than Hispanics in Illinois… and blacks in Texas do better than Blacks in Illinois…

And, here is the results of Duncan’s leadership…

Chicago 8th-graders score near bottom in national science tests

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/3991296-418/chicago-8th-graders-score-near-bottom-in-national-science-tests.html

ninjapirate on August 18, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Take that, Arne.

LASue on August 18, 2011 at 4:37 PM

It isn’t just the problem of language. Schools in Texas have to educate vast numbers of immigrant kids who have no schooling. In my classes in NYC we found it difficult to deal with one or two such kids in a class.Texas probably has 5 to 7 such kids a class in its schools in the 100 mile corridow along the Rio Grande.

xkaydet65 on August 18, 2011 at 4:37 PM

This was kind of a dumb attack by the Obama team in the age of the internet. It’s called Google Arne.

Dr Evil on August 18, 2011 at 4:34 PM

I understand what you are saying..But google can be danagerous in the wrong hands also (see Daily Kooks)..:)

Dire Straits on August 18, 2011 at 4:38 PM

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Yep.

kingsjester on August 18, 2011 at 4:39 PM

One question for the Perrybots: In 1980 did Rick Perry supported Ronald Reagan or Jimmy Carter?….And in 1984 for what candidate did he voted: Ronald Reagan or Walter Mondale?

Falz on August 18, 2011 at 4:39 PM

I’m sure the air quality in parts of Chicago is superb!

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:35 PM

It’s better than it used to be. All the factories, steel plants moved out of the country or to right to work states.

Knucklehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Can someone explain why the federal govt has a department of education?

jeffn21 on August 18, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Because Jimmy Carter promised it to the NEA as a bribe.

Mary in LA on August 18, 2011 at 4:40 PM

PS..Big Sis in next!..:)

Dire Straits on August 18, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Already happened. Homeland Security was going to halt all air traffic in, or out, of Texas if the legislature had passed the bill outlawing intrusive searches by airport security.

The feds have been at war with Texas for months now, and even the Texas dems are starting to notice.

They joined in their public unhappiness at JSC not getting a shuttle.

cozmo on August 18, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Is this the guy that wanted to teach fisting or is he the guy who hired the guy that wanted to teach fisting? I get my Obama people mixed up.

DanMan on August 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

But does anyone else have the feeling that by going after Perry, they’re essentially helping him get the nomination?

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Could be..IMHO it helps with Perry profile..:)

Dire Straits on August 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

cozmo on August 18, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Wow..Did not know that..:)

Dire Straits on August 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM

The well-kept secret is that studies repeatedly show that class size has little to no impact on the ability of a child to learn. See, e.g., “The Impact of Class Size on Student Success: The Importance of Controlling for Instructor and Course Characteristics,” which shows that “across the sections taught by the same instructor, class size does not have a statistically significant impact on successful course completion. Students are as likely to earn a successful grade in a 20-seat section as an 80-seat section.”

LASue on August 18, 2011 at 4:43 PM

DC spends more than twice the national average per pupil on schools. And DC is at or near the bottom in every measure you can think of.

angryed on August 18, 2011 at 4:43 PM

GUESS WHAT – not everyone SHOULD go to college, not everyone is READY to go to college and most of our students coming out of college are UNEMPLOYABLE because they have USELESS diplomas in obscure subjects (Junk Bond Diplomas) and a ton of debt.
We have denegrated the Trade Schools or profesions that don’t require a college degree and we pay through the nose for it.
Our current POTUS proves that 2 degrees doesn’t mean you have a lick of intelligence or sense.

IlonaE on August 18, 2011 at 4:44 PM

fwiw, Arne Duncan’s ideal? Communist China.

“It doesn’t matter how poor, how tough the family background, socioeconomic challenges,” said Mr. Duncan, a father of two. “Where students have longer days, longer weeks, longer years — that’s making a difference.”

And Barack Obama’s ideal is South Korea.

Buy Danish on August 18, 2011 at 4:44 PM

Falz on August 18, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Question for the tards that get so obsesses with one candidate or the other…

No matter how you feel about Candidate A, are you just going to sit back, and let some Chicago piece of garbage lie about Candidate A?

So lighten up, Francis. This isn’t about Perry worship.

MNHawk on August 18, 2011 at 4:44 PM

Shut up you dork. Liberal public education has produced generations of idiots who hate their country and hate God.

Go eff yourself.

darwin on August 18, 2011 at 4:45 PM

If Iowahawk is watching, Arne may have just stepped on his whanger. C’mon hawk,..do it!!

a capella on August 18, 2011 at 4:45 PM

It’s better than it used to be. All the factories, steel plants moved out of the country or to right to work states.

Knucklehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:39 PM

You’re right. Still, Gary, IN is a craphole either way. Apparently the factories aren’t the thing making things so bad.

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM

But does anyone else have the feeling that by going after Perry, they’re essentially helping him get the nomination?

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Yes, and they are doing it on purpose. They’d much rather face Bush clone in the general than Romney.

Jon0815 on August 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Yes, and they are doing it on purpose. They’d much rather face Bush clone in the general than Romney.

Jon0815 on August 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Romney’s not a Bush clone?

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Does anyone ever remember a previous Secretary of Education discussing an opposition presidential candidates record on education in their state?

I didn’t think so.

BierManVA on August 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Could be..IMHO it helps with Perry profile..:)

Dire Straits on August 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Yeah, I wonder if they’re miscalculating here.

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Michelle Rhee on line 2 Mr Duncan…

Odie1941 on August 18, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Things are actually becoming comical as they go, and they’re likely to become hilarious. Of everything that is the worst in the country (under Obama), Perry’s record on those issues is quite good. A decent enough state economy during a recession, job growth, balanced state budget. What will they attack?

All he needs to do is secure the nomination and pick Rubio as a running mate, and it’s all but a slam dunk. I can’t wait for November 2012…

stacman on August 18, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Is this the guy that wanted to teach fisting or is he the guy who hired the guy that wanted to teach fisting? I get my Obama people mixed up.

DanMan on August 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

That was Kevin Jennings, King Barry’s Safe School Czar. He finally quit under pressure.

Knucklehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Arne Duncan was superintendent of the Chicago Public Schools for almost 10 years. His last year, 2009, the CPS average composite ACT score was 17.0. http://www.catalyst-chicago.org/notebook/index.php/entry/379

In Texas in 2009, it was 20.8. http://www.act.org/news/data/09/states.html

So Arne, STFU and GBTW.

DailyDanet on August 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Wow, all good choices :)

Didn’t know about big sis

cmsinaz on August 18, 2011 at 4:54 PM

In September 2009, Education Week even cited Texas as a leader in the adoption of college-ready standards. Perhaps Duncan feels spurned to have said what he said. It must have shocked him to encounter a politician who would actually say “no” to money for the sake of the freedom and flexibility that actually serve children’s educational needs well.

Arne and all those in Obuttheads administration are facing the unemployment line soon, and they know it.

capejasmine on August 18, 2011 at 4:55 PM

I screwed up posting the link:

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html

Danny on August 18, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Yep, in fact the Dallas ISD is such a haven for illegals that a few years ago the Superintendent proposed hiring illegals to teach so the the students could relate to them better, and no, i’m not kidding.
clearbluesky on August 18, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Having kids in the classroom that don’t speak English slows down the whole classroom. Houston ISD is about 65% hispanic/25% black and taxpayers also have to pay for their breakfast and lunch. My brother graduated in 1968 (same class as Billy Gibbons) with several national merit scholars and that school now has to cater to 40 different languages and is a third world cesspool.

TxAnn56 on August 18, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Yeah, I wonder if they’re miscalculating here.

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Could be..:)

Dire Straits on August 18, 2011 at 4:59 PM

What’s funny is that if you break it down by race, whites in Texas do better than whites in Illinois… Hispanics in Texas do better than Hispanics in Illinois… and blacks in Texas do better than Blacks in Illinois…

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html

http://nationsreportcard.gov/science_2009/g8_state.asp?subtab_id=Tab_6&tab_id=tab1#tabsContainer

ninjapirate on August 18, 2011 at 4:11 PM
What IS funny is that I live in a western suburb of Chicago; families try to live here because we have great schools and a first class park district; athletic programs for kids 5 and on up. What you are talking about is pretty much isolated to Chicago.

The issue is that the tax dollars (mostly from real estate
taxes) go to administrative costs; very little goes directly to teaching the students. There are many school districts where the expenses are ridiculous – building expenses, $200,000.00 plus salaries for each head of the district, salaries and expenses for supporting staff, etc.
Then you have the health and pension costs of the administrative staff and the principle, vice principal,
teachers, etc. The unions have a stranglehold; teachers never get fired; they are lazy; that’s why the kids can’t learn. Of course there are devoted teachers out there; however, the rest of the scum sucking pigs ruin it for everyone.

Amjean on August 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Texas schools score low in national rankings for a very good reason. We are required to educate millions of illegal aliens and children of illegal aliens who do not speak or understand English. Whether you like it or not, non-English speaking children score far lower than their English speaking counterparts on standardized tests.

edgehead on August 18, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Exactly. In Texas border towns you can also watch children being dropped off at schools or at bus stops from cars with Mexican plates. There are also millions of illegals living in Texas and sending their little illegals to Texas schools.

slickwillie2001 on August 18, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Where does this Administration separate their responsiblities as leaders from rank politics.

Really Mr Secretary? You’re using your postion to stump for your boss? These people are … scared!

hawkdriver on August 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM

My family and I moved to Texas from Colorado in 2006. When my kids started school I had to spend a good part of the school year helping my kids catch up in math as the Colorado schools were behind the schools here in Texas. My daughter also had issues with her reading. My son even was in a special class for a year to help bring him up to grade level by Texas standsrds. My daughter also had issues with reading. She spent several years in special classes to bring up her reading skills. They are now better prepared for college than if they were still in schools in Colorado.

I’m certainly glad they aren’t in schools run by Obama or Arne Duncan. The Chicago and Washington, D.C., schools seem to be their idea of “educational success”. That kind of success only equips a person to be a community organizer.

MeAlice on August 18, 2011 at 5:03 PM

I understand what you are saying..But google can be danagerous in the wrong hands also (see Daily Kooks)..:)

Dire Straits on August 18, 2011 at 4:38 PM

I have a child in Texas public school system (The School has an
EXEMPLARY rating TEA has links to stats and ratings for public schools going by districts.

The three ratings are Exemplary (38), Recognized (21), Academically Acceptable (4) that’s how our schools are ranking in our school district.

Dr Evil on August 18, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Well obviously Perry scares hell out of the Obama admin. He scares the GOP establishment as well.

cartooner on August 18, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Arne Duncan was superintendent of the Chicago Public Schools for almost 10 years. His last year, 2009, the CPS average composite ACT score was 17.0. http://www.catalyst-chicago.org/notebook/index.php/entry/379

In Texas in 2009, it was 20.8. http://www.act.org/news/data/09/states.html

So Arne, STFU and GBTW.

DailyDanet on August 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Arne might not be worried about standardized tests that much. It’s about making kids feel good or something.

MeatHeadinCA on August 18, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Isn’t it improper for a cabinet secretary to criticize someone who is a political opponent of the president? Secretary Duncan works for the US government, not for the Obama reelection campaign.

Steven Den Beste on August 18, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Where does this Administration separate their responsiblities as leaders from rank politics.

Really Mr Secretary? You’re using your postion to stump for your boss? These people are … scared!

hawkdriver on August 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Indeed. Bonus points to anyone that can find anything that lists “campaigning for the POTUS” in the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Education. I’m about, oh 100% sure its not there.

This administration disgusts me.

deadrody on August 18, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Minorities in Texas do better than minorities in Wisconsin:

Please note: this has nothing to do with innate ability or aptitude. Quite to the contrary, I believe the test gap between minority students and white students can be attributed to differences in socioeconomic status. And poverty. And yes, racism. And yes, family structure. Whatever combination of reasons, the gap exists, and it’s mathematical sophistry to compare the combined average test scores in a state like Wisconsin (4% black, 4% Hispanic) with a state like Texas (12% black, 30% Hispanic).

http://snowedin2006.blogspot.com/2011/03/texas-vs-wisconsin-which-is-better-for.html

disa on August 18, 2011 at 5:11 PM

I don’t want to brag, but my child got a perfect score on the Reading portion of TAKS last year, commended, that’s 1 with a double egg 00;) Passing TAKS is required in Texas, to move to the next grade, there is no social promotion.

Dr Evil on August 18, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Duncan is a liar. But since he works for Obama, you knew that already.

The Department of Education is a money pit, an employment service for NEA/AFT types that does NOTHING to educate a single child in this country. In fact, since its inception the performance of American public schools has declined, as has adult literacy in the country.

Adjoran on August 18, 2011 at 5:13 PM

This from the party that nominated and elected Bill Clinton! Arkansas competes with Mississippi for last place every year, or used to when Slick Willie was there. But, the msm told us he was our “Education President” (as well as our first black President). Somehow I don’t think test scores or children succeeding is really part of the liberal plan for America.

txhsmom on August 18, 2011 at 5:13 PM

I screwed up posting the link:

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html

Danny on August 18, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Thanks, this ones a keeper. I posted it on my facebook wall.

I am guessing Arne Duncan is a product of social promotion.

Dr Evil on August 18, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Dr Evil on August 18, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Good job spawn of Dr Evil!

txhsmom on August 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

“You have seen massive increases in class size,” Duncan said of the Texas public school system during Perry’s terms as governor since December 2000.

Of course. Because people have been absolutely flocking to Texas at a faster rate than they can build schools. You can’t just move the schools from where those people are coming from.

Also, I have never seen a correlation between spending and school performance. My kids’ school as the least government funding of any school in the county and has the highest scores on standardized tests. A liberal would say ‘that is because it doesn’t NEED the funding’ but I say in what other industry is failure met with a monetary reward? Schools have an incentive to do poorly to get more cash. They just have to be careful and not do TOO poorly.

This nincompoop reinforces every single reason why schools are failing in places like California.

crosspatch on August 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM

disa on August 18, 2011 at 5:11 PM

not only that if you go to the NAEP site, you will see that Texas minorities are in/near the top 5 in all categories on apples-apples basis

phreshone on August 18, 2011 at 5:21 PM

Dr Evil on August 18, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Good job spawn of Dr Evil!

txhsmom on August 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

I will pass along the praise. She’s in PAP English this year, that means summer reading assignment, and a test the first day of school. You know how we dumb hicks do ;)

Dr Evil on August 18, 2011 at 5:24 PM

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