CNN anchor: Palin was a lot less scripted in Iowa this week than Bachmann was

posted at 9:00 pm on August 15, 2011 by Allahpundit

One’s a relatively little-known candidate who’s desperate for media opportunities to push her message to voters, the other’s internationally famous and doesn’t have to worry (yet) about how to package herself. This is apples and oranges, in other words — but even so, there’s truth to it. Palin has been vastly better about chatting with non-Fox media in unscripted settings since she started her bus tour. From what I hear, she did at least an hour of free-fire Q&A with hordes of press last week while walking around the fairgrounds. Bachmann, meanwhile, has lately been so carefully choreographed that she wouldn’t mingle at the Republican dinner last night in her own hometown. If you missed Ed’s post about that, stop here and go read it. I’ve seen half a dozen media accounts today of what happened at the dinner and they all jibe with his. It’s shocking to me that, in her own backyard, in a state that famously prizes face-to-face contact with the candidates, Bachmann would hole up in her bus until she’s called to the stage rather than press the flesh with Iowans. (Perry took full advantage by working the room in her absence.) She kept fairgoers waiting half an hour for her speech on Friday too — and then spoke for just two and a half minutes before rushing away. And this isn’t the first time she’s disappointed an otherwise excited audience.

But it gets worse:

On her victory lap of Iowa yesterday, Straw Poll winner Rep. Michele Bachmann paid repeated tribute to her local roots, and repeatedly mentioned her family reunion that day, citing it as an excuse for her late arrival at a local party event in Waterloo.

But Bachmann’s mother and two cousins told POLITICO’s Emily Schultheis that Bachmann didn’t attend the reunion, though her husband and children did. Her spokeswoman, Alice Stewart, didn’t respond to two emails asking for an explanation of the disparity…

That evening, she answered a reporter’s question about why she’d turned up late to the Black Hawk County Republican Party dinner in Waterloo…

“We had a big family reunion just north of Waterloo,” she said. She also said she’d visited a local “shut-in.”

I don’t want to oversell all this — she’s campaigned tirelessly and she just won Ames, so she’s doing something right — but it’s mystifying to me that she wouldn’t use her first direct confrontation to try to out-schmooze him on her own turf. After all, one of Bachmann’s advantages before the straw poll was her perceived authenticity relative to the top-tier candidates. (Same was true for Huckabee before the caucuses in 2008.) That was a low bar: Anyone would seem authentic relative to Romney, and Pawlenty never found his identity as the “conservative but not too conservative” establishment hope. With Perry now in and Palin maybe set to follow, the bar is suddenly way, way higher. Apart from her local roots, what’s Bachmann’s argument once there are not one but two charming former governors famous for their personal touch and their conservative bona fides competing alongside her?

Or maybe none of this matters and the local roots will put her over the top anyway? Talk to me, Iowans.

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Dreadnought on August 16, 2011 at 12:08 AM

from your link: july poll:

If
Palin makes a run for the White House, it has little effect on the race in North Carolina.
Romney still leads with 18% to Bachmann’s 17%, Perry’s 14%, Palin’s 12%, Cain and
Gingrich’s 8%, Paul’s 7%, Pawlenty’s 4%, and Huntsman’s 1%.

june poll:

Romney leads in the Tar Heel state with 20% to 18% for Herman Cain, 17% for Sarah
Palin, 12% for Newt Gingrich, 8% for Tim Pawlenty and Ron Paul, 5% for Michele
Bachmann, and 1% for Jon Huntsman

feb poll:

In the presidential contest, Mitt Romney has jumped into a second-place tie with Newt
Gingrich, at 18%, but both still trail last month’s returning leader, Mike Huckabee, who
has declined from 27% to 24%. Sarah Palin remains at 16%, now in fourth instead of
third place

Like I thought your talking point about:

As far as the North Carlina Republican primary she was leading in PPP polls earlier this year and last year. So that one has been pretty static, or actually gone down a little for Palin.

was a bunch of crap. Palin was never leading in the NC polls. Mitt and Huck were the two leaders in NC all of this year and huck lead most of last year with Newt gaining traction in one poll. so basically you were 100% wrong.

the entry of Perry has done just what I forcasted it would do. It has cut into Mitt’s lead and knocked the other ABP caniddate down (at this time that’s bachmann) to low single digits and caused Palin’s strong support to place her in tie for first place in NC. For the first time. Perry getitng into the race has helped Palin hurt Mitt and Bachmann just like I said it would and just like Palin knew it would when she called for him to get in the race in early June.

unseen on August 16, 2011 at 2:22 AM

Yes I definitely read Palin’s Facebook page and the “PalinTV” site to get the objective, unvarnished truth.

Dreadnought on August 16, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Well, since you can read Palin’s own words on her Facebook page and you can watch and listen to Palin’s own words in the videos posted at PalinTV, that would make sense. No filter = objective, unvarnished truth.

steebo77 on August 16, 2011 at 2:25 AM

Yes I definitely read Palin’s Facebook page and the “PalinTV” site to get the objective, unvarnished truth.

Dreadnought on August 16, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Well, since you can read Palin’s own words on her Facebook page and you can watch and listen to Palin’s own words in the videos posted at PalinTV, that would make sense. No filter = objective, unvarnished truth.

steebo77 on August 16, 2011 at 2:25 AM

I think Dreadnought would rather get the pure unvarnished truth secondhand from sources that may (or may not) have an axe to grind. Can you blame him?/

gryphon202 on August 16, 2011 at 2:30 AM

So Palin has increased her numbers by 5% in NC and is back to her pre tuscon numbers. Mitt and Bachmann falling fast and Perry is seen as the new flavor of the month. good times.

unseen on August 16, 2011 at 2:40 AM

This representation about Palin has no basis in reality. The evidence refuting this notion is overwhelming. If you doubt this, please see the site below and watch all of the policy speeches and interviews, and read her countless policy statements, on her Facebook page, for the past 3 years.

http://www.palintv.com/

http://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin

SheetAnchor on August 16, 2011 at 12:15 AM

And the part that still amazes me, is the very same people who say they don’t think Palin has spoken enough about policy will back Bachmann or Cain. Someone point me to ANY policy statement from Bachmann other than “I have a titanium spine and am the tip of the spear and opposed the raising of the debt ceiling”…lather, rinse, repeat.

Palin on the other hand, has spoken/written thoughtfully about pretty much every policy issue.

miConsevative on August 16, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Well, since you can read Palin’s own words on her Facebook page and you can watch and listen to Palin’s own words in the videos posted at PalinTV, that would make sense. No filter = objective, unvarnished truth.

steebo77 on August 16, 2011 at 2:25 AM

And I’m pretty sure PalinTV’s goal was to put up every appearance of Palin on TV since the election – not cherry pick to find only the best.

miConsevative on August 16, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Dreadnought on August 15, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Nobody gets to vote against Obama for 13 months.

Brian1972 on August 15, 2011 at 11:32 PM

Fine. But the original poster I was replying to stated that Palin was within single digits of Obama now

There isn’t a national poll anywhere that shows that to be the case.

Dreadnought on August 16, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Dreadnought on August 16, 2011 at 12:08 AM

from your link: july poll:

If
Palin makes a run for the White House, it has little effect on the race in North Carolina.
Romney still leads with 18% to Bachmann’s 17%, Perry’s 14%, Palin’s 12%, Cain and
Gingrich’s 8%, Paul’s 7%, Pawlenty’s 4%, and Huntsman’s 1%.

june poll:

Romney leads in the Tar Heel state with 20% to 18% for Herman Cain, 17% for Sarah
Palin, 12% for Newt Gingrich, 8% for Tim Pawlenty and Ron Paul, 5% for Michele
Bachmann, and 1% for Jon Huntsman

feb poll:

In the presidential contest, Mitt Romney has jumped into a second-place tie with Newt
Gingrich, at 18%, but both still trail last month’s returning leader, Mike Huckabee, who
has declined from 27% to 24%. Sarah Palin remains at 16%, now in fourth instead of
third place

Like I thought your talking point about:

As far as the North Carlina Republican primary she was leading in PPP polls earlier this year and last year. So that one has been pretty static, or actually gone down a little for Palin.

was a bunch of crap. Palin was never leading in the NC polls. Mitt and Huck were the two leaders in NC all of this year and huck lead most of last year with Newt gaining traction in one poll. so basically you were 100% wrong.

the entry of Perry has done just what I forcasted it would do. It has cut into Mitt’s lead and knocked the other ABP caniddate down (at this time that’s bachmann) to low single digits and caused Palin’s strong support to place her in tie for first place in NC. For the first time. Perry getitng into the race has helped Palin hurt Mitt and Bachmann just like I said it would and just like Palin knew it would when she called for him to get in the race in early June.

unseen on August 16, 2011 at 2:22 AM

Did you actually bother to go to the link I pasted, or did you just decide to wing it, and hope you could blow it by at 2:30 in the morning?

In my original post I stated

As far as the North Carlina Republican primary she was leading in PPP polls earlier this year and last year. So that one has been pretty static, or actually gone down a little for Palin

From Realclearpolitics.com

Aug 2011: Romney 17 Palin 17
July 2011: Romney 18 Palin 12
June 2011: Romney 20 Palin 17
Feb 2011: Romney 18 Palin 16
Jan 2011: Romney 11 Palin 16 Gingrich 18
Nov 2010: Romney 10 Palin 21
Oct 2010: Romney 14 Palin 19 Gingrich 23
Apr 2010: Romney 27 Palin 30
Mar 2010: Romney 25 Palin 27
Feb 2010: Romney 25 Palin 27

That shows Palin leading several times last year, most of last year actually. I thought she was leading early in the 2011 (January or February), also, there I was wrong, however she was ahead of Romney in January, 16% to 11%.

Clearly there’s no upward trend in those polls for Palin, particularly if you take the margin of error into account, which is probably about 5% with the relatively small sample PPP uses.

Dreadnought on August 16, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Clearly there’s no upward trend in those polls for Palin, particularly if you take the margin of error into account, which is probably about 5% with the relatively small sample PPP uses.

Dreadnought on August 16, 2011 at 6:07 PM

HMM! I wonder why that is. Could it be due to the FACT that Sarah has not yet announced her intention to run yet?

Look at how quickly Perry rose in the polls once he announced he was going to run, then take a quick guess as to what would happen if Sarah announced. ;o)

DannoJyd on August 18, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Dreadnought on August 16, 2011 at 6:07 PM

that is not from the link you posted for NC numbers. Not sure where the hell you are getting your numbers. Nice try.

unseen on August 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM

Dreadnought on August 16, 2011 at 6:07 PM

ok i see where you are getting the numbers. You did not seem to heed your own advice and drill down to the information you posted. Notice that the link you gave doesn’t list huck in the results. when you click on the polls linked at your link the real numbers are shown not the “final” numbers RCP is posting. My information was taken form the actual polls linked at you source which did include huckabee in the polls. And when huck was included Palin never led until this months poll showing her tied with Mitt and Perry.

unseen on August 18, 2011 at 11:27 AM

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