Allen West: How does “Senator Allen West” sound?

posted at 10:25 pm on August 15, 2011 by Allahpundit

The door is open — just a crack, but open nonetheless. He claims people within the party have sought him out to talk about a run, not vice versa, so this is more than just a congressman idly speculating about higher office. I wonder if his debt-ceiling vote is what did it. Before that, Democrats could have run against him as a lockstep tea partier who’s more interested in casting symbolic no votes than moving legislation through Congress. Now that argument is harder.

Which is not to say they won’t still make it.

But, he said, he’s opened the door to discussions on the possibility.

“I cracked it open enough so that people can slip a note under the door and I can read the note and I can write back on the note ‘probably not’ and send it back out under the door,” West said before he spoke to a Palm Beach County Tea Party gathering.

“There are people here in the state of Florida that see me as a political entity and they are very trustworthy within the Republican Party structure. I should sit down and talk to them,” he said. “But I don’t think people are really going to be able to move me.”

His comments are a shift from what he said one week ago. In an Aug. 9 interview with Sun Sentinel reporters and editors he gave a definitive “no” when asked if there was “any chance” he’d run for the Senate instead of seeking re-election.

He raised more money in the second quarter for his House reelection bid than any Republican nationally raised for their Senate bid so he should have cash to burn if he challenges Bill Nelson. There’s also a fair chance that Rubio will be on the ticket next year as VP; if that happens, turnout among Florida Republicans (tea partiers especially) should be more massive than expected, with West benefiting down-ballot even though ordinarily he might be considered too far right for a purplish state like Florida. In fact, the mere possibility of this happening is Rubio’s legacy: He proved that even a big-name centrist like Crist could be crushed in Florida by an out-and-proud conservative with grassroots cred. Maybe party chieftains are thinking that rather than repeat the ugliness of a “true conservative”/RINO primary fight, they’ll back a more right-wing candidate from the get-go and hope that the nominating process is smooth.

The big catch here is that the tea party’s polling is down after the debt-ceiling deal. There’s no way for West to escape the label, notwithstanding his break from TPers in backing Boehner, so if those numbers persist into next year he’ll have to deal with the baggage. In fact, early word today was that tea partiers were set to confront him at tonight’s town hall meeting in Florida; as it turns out, despite disapproving of his debt-ceiling vote, they apparently back him almost to the hilt. Here’s video via the Shark Tank of West justifying his vote at another town hall yesterday.

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It’s a free country. Barely.

Bishop on August 15, 2011 at 10:26 PM

There’s also a fair chance that Rubio will be on the ticket next year as VP..

Huh?

Electrongod on August 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM

It’s sound great to me, sir.

katy the mean old lady on August 15, 2011 at 10:30 PM

Huh?

Electrongod on August 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM

He’s got as good a shot as anyone. The appeal to Latino voters might be too tempting for the eventual nominee to turn down. I’d prefer he remain in the Senate for now, but we’ll see what happens.

Doughboy on August 15, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Go for it.

Uncle Sams Nephew on August 15, 2011 at 10:31 PM

____/Rubio

Fill in the blank.
Didn’t Rubio say he wasn’t seeking VP status?

Electrongod on August 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Please run!!! Dear God, give inspire this man to run for POTUS!!!

NickDeringer on August 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Didn’t Rubio say he wasn’t seeking VP status?

Electrongod on August 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Nobody seeks the Vice Presidency. At least not publicly. But it doesn’t mean he’d turn it down if offered. If Perry or Mittens asks him to be their running mate, he’d be crazy to say no if he aspires to be President someday.

Doughboy on August 15, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Ugh. No thanks.
Massive ego on a go with the flow Republican.

james23 on August 15, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Doughboy on August 15, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Ok.
He just seemed compassionate as Paul Ryan on staying where they are at…for now.

I guess minds can change..and they do.

Electrongod on August 15, 2011 at 10:37 PM

There’s also a fair chance that Rubio will be on the ticket next year as VP

Oh stop it already. Rubio is not a Natural Born American as his parents were not American citizens at the time of his birth. If you want violating the United States Constitution, you already have a party for that.

Lon Chaney on August 15, 2011 at 10:38 PM

I think if you play with that picture a little more you can make him look even blacker.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2011 at 10:38 PM

Bill Nelson was a astronaut. Did you know that?

SlaveDog on August 15, 2011 at 10:40 PM

The things I like about Marco Rubio just keep accumulating. It’s too bad that he can never become President, nor even Vice President, without violating the United States Constitution’s requirement that a President and a Vice President must be Natural Born Americans, which the Founding Fathers very clearly understood meant to be born in the United States of America of two American Citizen parents, not just born in the United States. Very much unlike Barack Hussein Obama, a lot so low that all other lots he should envy, Marco Rubio seems to have great respect for the United States Constitution so I must presume that he would fully agree with the Founding Fathers and myself on this most important matter of protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States of America.

It is idle to say as some do that the 14th Amendment changed all that, as even a quick reading of it should disabuse anyone of such a fanciful notion. The Fourteenth amendment, section one states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside … ….”. Note that it does not say anything remotely like “are hereby deemed Natural Born”. It says citizens and being a citizen does not make one a Natural Born Citizen anymore than being a car makes something a Ferrari or being a bird makes one a Falcon or picking up a hammer at Home Depot makes one Thor.

Congress had no authority, nor intention, to make those covered by the 14th Amendment “a natural born citizen.” This is clearly shown by Congressional records regarding the debate on the Fourteenth Amendment by the chief architect of Section 1 of this amendment himself.
“I find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen; but, sir, I may be allowed to say further, that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, and not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States.” John A. Bingham, (R-Ohio) US Congressman, Architect of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, March 9, 1866 Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866), Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes (1866), Cf. U.S. Const. XIVth Amend.

There is no doubt that the 14th Amendment deals with “naturalized citizen,” and “citizen”, as the Amendment clearly states. It did not somehow magically make them Natural Born citizens.

Lon Chaney on August 15, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Was it not just a week ago that people where ready to tar and feather or at least hang, drawn and quartered for his yes vote on the debt debate. Now that is all forgiven and his horn as withdrew or something.

tjexcite on August 15, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Who’s he running against? Bill Nelson?

SouthernGent on August 15, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Please run!!! Dear God, give inspire this man to run for POTUS!!!

NickDeringer on August 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Oh look, an outbreak of Allen West Fantasy Syndrome.

Brian1972 on August 15, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Will he vote to repeal O-Care? I think the answer is yes.
Good enough for me.

angryed on August 15, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Who’s he running against? Bill Nelson?

SouthernGent on August 15, 2011 at 10:41 PM

If he does run for Senate in 2012 he will be running against Nelson. If he does, and makes it through the primary, he’s got my vote.

whbates on August 15, 2011 at 10:51 PM

West and Rubio. Do it Florida.

El_Terrible on August 15, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Won’t be sending him any more cash. He’s a poseur and even tho I can’t stand Debbie Wassername Slutz, he didn;t handle that debacle very well. Pass.

Firefly_76 on August 15, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Lon Chaney:

How did I get the crazy idea that Andrew Jackson was a President of the United States?

It just can’t be. His parents were born in Northern Ireland.

wraithby on August 15, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Just a couple of comments, since I live in Florida and West is my congressman. I don’t believe he has a shot at being Senator, not yet at least. I do believe he’ll win re-election. He’s done just fine. In the debate, whether you agree with him or not, he still had the guts to tell people how he was going to vote and why. As it all worked out, he made the correct decision, because it was the prevailing decision.

On Marco Rubio – I do believe he was born in the United States and is a citizen. That, I believe is the rule, not that both your parents had to be born here, otherwise Obama wouldn’t be eligible. I don’t believe he’ll be the vice-presidential candidate, it would be a waste of time for him. He’s Presidential material, if he keeps doing what he’s doing and gains experience and respect, and I don’t believe he has a problem with either of those. I can see him being one great campaigner for whoever the nominee is and that is going to be his strength in the upcoming election.

Finally, I believe George LeMieux will be the Republican nominee for the Senate and I believe he’ll beat anyone the Democrats throw out there. LeMieux was the guy Crist appointed to the seat when Martinez resigned. He’ll win because, in the Senate race, he endorsed Rubio over Crist, which kept him in the good graces of the Repubican Party. I feel he did a good job, when he was there, and experience counts.

Vote Republican and only be called a racist one more time.

bflat879 on August 15, 2011 at 10:58 PM

bflat879 on August 15, 2011 at 10:58 PM

If little Bammie got away with it, that in itself is not some kind of precedent.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2011 at 11:04 PM

wraithby—our failed educational system has also claimed that six others, besides Jackson, served as President.

Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada.

vilebody on August 15, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Will he vote to repeal O-Care? I think the answer is yes.
Good enough for me.

angryed on August 15, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Its going to be all up to the Supreme Court (and Justice Kennedy waking up on the right side of the bed) to strike down Obamacare.

RedRobin145 on August 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Amusing to watch people rage left and right over the guy voting for the last-ditch effort to avoid default. Some people are never satisfied.

I hope he makes it into the Senate.

MadisonConservative on August 15, 2011 at 11:06 PM

West was wise, imagine what would’ve happened had the GOP allowed Default to happen, then like last week we get downgraded and markets crash

The MSM and Democrats would’ve been non-stop placing 100% blame on the “Tea Party” and GOP and the public would buy every bit of it.

jp on August 15, 2011 at 11:15 PM

I think Rubio doesn’t want to make the same mistake that Obama did. He’s young, let him get experience in the Senate.

This birther stuff about Rubio is ridiculous. We’ve had 7 presidents that had at least one foreign parent, including Thomas Jefferson and, as pointed to earlier, Andrew Jackson. It’s a simple rule, if you’re born here you can run, if not, you can’t.

cpaulus on August 15, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Please run!!! Dear God, give inspire this man to run for POTUS!!!

NickDeringer on August 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM

West/Ryan 2012

Connie on August 15, 2011 at 11:21 PM

I don’t understand what all this garbage is about “allowing default to happen” if we didn’t take the deal.

We had/have plenty of income to service the interest payment on the debt on a monthly basis ($30B / $200B). After that, you can pay medicare/caid, military and social security requirements.

After that, you have a touch of cash left to put to whatever you like… and make decisions as to what remains. CCB would have even made the cuts phase in gradually.

Enough of the “we would have defaulted otherwise” schtick.

knob on August 15, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Both Andrew Jackson and Thomas Jefferson were citizens of the US when the Constitution was adopted, so were eligible because of that. The two citizen parent line of argument is garbage, it could not have been intended otherwise the 14-year residence requirement would be superfluous.

Greek Fire on August 15, 2011 at 11:42 PM

The term for Cong. West—schizophrenic

mobydutch on August 15, 2011 at 11:43 PM

Can’t be counted on.

AshleyTKing on August 16, 2011 at 12:14 AM

Senate counter-weight to the Maine Hags.

Rubio/West offsets Snowe/Collins.

Dandy idea.

Now, if Linda McMahon does run again next year, with Lieberman and some generic Dem splitting the ballot on the left side, we’ll have someone to offset Scott Brown.

SuperCool on August 16, 2011 at 1:10 AM

I suppose this was twenty gold coins offered to him by Boehner for playing judas on the tea party. They bought Bachmann off with her vainglorious preisdential run and they are doing this to west.

promachus on August 16, 2011 at 1:17 AM

After that, you have a touch of cash left to put to whatever you like… and make decisions as to what remains. CCB would have even made the cuts phase in gradually.

Enough of the “we would have defaulted otherwise” schtick.

knob

With no increase in the debt ceiling, there would be no phasing of cuts gradually, those cuts would have to happen immediately because the money to pay 40% of the bills wouldn’t be there. That’s why CCB actually raised the debt ceiling.

But you’re right, we wouldn’t have had to default. We just would have had to cut 40% of the government, like, overnight. Not a good idea.

xblade on August 16, 2011 at 4:01 AM

West was wise, imagine what would’ve happened had the GOP allowed Default to happen, then like last week we get downgraded and markets crash

The MSM and Democrats would’ve been non-stop placing 100% blame on the “Tea Party” and GOP and the public would buy every bit of it.

jp on August 15, 2011 at 11:15 PM

Having a candidate with no principles is sooooo dreamy!

Notorious GOP on August 16, 2011 at 6:31 AM

After Perry officially announced his candidacy, all the pundits in both the press and on the blogs immediately began visualizing a Perry/Obama “Debate” (Both on the campaign trail and in the literal sense…at the televised debates).

That’s to be expected. (And I relish the thought of watching it play out; I think Perry will destroy Obama-with-no-telepromter).

But personally, I want to see a Joe Biden/Marco Rubio VP debate, because to me, that would seal the deal, resulting in a mandate landslide GOP victory.

Nostradamus on August 16, 2011 at 7:51 AM

“How does “Senator Allen West” sound?”

Not as good as it would have prior to the debt ceiling debate.

ncjetsfan on August 16, 2011 at 7:52 AM

[Rudio is] Presidential material, if he keeps doing what he’s doing and gains experience and respect, and I don’t believe he has a problem with either of those.

And VP is a natural stepping stone to that – how does being VP now hurt his chances of POTUS later?

YehuditTX on August 16, 2011 at 8:10 AM

Once in due time, many will find out about the fraud Rubio is.

Just research his record in the Florida state legislature.

Notorious GOP on August 16, 2011 at 8:13 AM

How ’bout GOV Allen West?

Tony737 on August 16, 2011 at 8:51 AM

Sorry “notorious” I would love to see Rubio or West as VP. But what is going on with that picture of West? Why did you put a picture up that looks a little evil? He is a good man and doesn’t need to have that kind of a picture!

Bambi on August 16, 2011 at 8:54 AM

Florida has 2 senators, Allen. Don’t mess with Rubio. Go for ther other seat.

volsense on August 16, 2011 at 9:13 AM

Notice how he said ‘before the election.’

Oh really, Rick? Would it be OK after you won it?

Notorious GOP on August 16, 2011 at 9:47 AM

^^^^^^

Obviously the wrong thread. :/

Notorious GOP on August 16, 2011 at 9:47 AM

Could those of you hating on Allen West please give me specifics from the video above that leave you convinced he’s still a bad candidate/traitor/schizophrenic/poseur/egoist/unprincipled /whatever because of his stance on the debt ceiling vote?

tkinTX on August 16, 2011 at 10:54 AM

West was wise, imagine what would’ve happened had the GOP allowed Default to happen, then like last week we get downgraded and markets crash

So the left continues to manipulate the economy to a crisis (is too good to waste) situation and the GOP must givbe in because “image how that would have looked”

Don L on August 16, 2011 at 11:52 AM

candidate/traitor/schizophrenic/poseur/egoist/unprincipled /whatever because of his stance on the debt ceiling vote?

tkinTX on August 16, 2011 at 10:54 AM
Congressman West called the Tea Party members schizophrenic. He was not called schizophrenic.

mobydutch on August 16, 2011 at 6:24 PM