Ames straw poll results: Bachmann wins narrowly over Paul

posted at 6:46 pm on August 13, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Ed: The fun of the Ames straw poll came to an end this afternoon as the ballot count shows that 16,892 votes were cast, and Michele Bachmann (4823) won a narrow victory over Ron Paul (4671) — less than 200 votes difference.  Tim Pawlenty finished in a distant third (2293), followed by Rick Santorum  and then Herman Cain.  Bachmann comes away with a win, but not by much — and since reports had her giving out 6,000 tickets to the event, it’s not exactly a big endorsement.

Rick Perry got 718 write-in votes without showing up at all.

Of course, the big question won’t be what this means, but if it means anything at all.  The consistent poll frontrunner, Mitt Romney, didn’t contest the straw poll, although he did show up for the debate and did some local campaigning this week.  Perry’s entry to the race means the arguable #2 candidate in the race didn’t compete, either.  Those two developments mean that the winner might be battling for third place everywhere else but Iowa, and maybe even here after a few weeks have passed.

That doesn’t make these results meaningless, however.  The candidates who did compete in the straw poll had an opportunity to put their organizations to the test.  The results will be used to argue for some weeding out of the field before the next major debate.  As we begin to progress closer to the real caucus in Iowa next January, the number of Republicans on stage at the debates should shrink so that we can get a better look at the most viable challengers.

Tina: It’s true that this straw poll probably means less than Bachmann would like us to believe. When we booked our tickets to be in Ames this weekend, I thought we’d surely be in the most newsworthy place in the nation. Little did we know then that Perry would pick the same day — but a different place — to announce his candidacy.

When we stepped onto the Iowa State Campus to pick up our credentials Wednesday, I tweeted that it felt like Game Day — and that was before the candidates constructed tents and fired up their grills. It really felt like a tailgate today. Given that, I understand better now why some folks don’t take the straw poll too seriously — buying votes and bribing supporters with pulled pork, pizza, hot dogs, beef sundaes and blizzards isn’t exactly equivalent to candidates espousing their most deeply held views in a readily digestible way. The speeches to a crowded arena consisted mostly of finely honed talking points aimed to draw applause. All in all, it’s a funny way to pick a president — this focus on retail politics.

But I’m not seeking to blame Ames for anything that’s “wrong” with the campaign process, nor am I saying (as Newt Gingrich tried so hard to say on the stage Wednesday) that how candidates run their campaigns tells us nothing about what kind of leaders they make. On the whole, this was a fun, fun weekend — and campaigns do tell us a significant amount about a candidate’s ability to construct a vision, assemble a team, organize, etc., etc. And given that the campaign process is what it is, the straw poll certainly matters in terms of building momentum. This year, turnout was especially high (second highest in the history of the poll, we’re hearing), so the winner of the straw poll can take from that an extra boost in confidence. But what matters most, of course, is how Bachmann moves forward from here.

Ed: Pawlenty won the bare-minimum third place here in Iowa, but he got less than half of the votes of the two ahead of him.  That is not going to be a ringing endorsement for his campaign to continue.  With Perry’s entry, his argument for supercompetent executive doesn’t differentiate him any longer, and going head-to-head with Bachmann didn’t help his numbers, either.  Rick Santorum will fade out soon, as he’s going to have difficulty raising money from here on out, as Pawlenty might, too.

It may be trite to say this, but you know who this near-tie helps?  Mitt Romney and Rick Perry.

Tina: Romney and Perry seem to know it, too. Perry boldly and transparently timed the start of his speech in New Hampshire to exactly coincide with the announcement of the Iowa straw poll results. Bachmann didn’t win by a wide enough margin to dominate headlines tonight or tomorrow — and Perry, who will be able to compete with her in the Tea Party space in a way Romney hasn’t, has already drawn media attention away from Iowa and toward South Carolina.

Romney, for his part, knows better than anyone else in the field just how little an Ames straw poll victory can mean. He poured enormous resources into (and won) the 2007 straw poll, but then still lost Iowa to second-place finisher Mike Huckabee. The congratulatory words Romney immediately tweeted out to Bachmann betray all the confidence of a steady frontrunner: “Congratulations to Michele Bachmann for winning the Iowa GOP’s straw poll. Look forward to crossing paths on the campaign trail.”

But it’s hard to think this benefits Romney and Perry equally. Romney’s clearly not worried about Bachmann, but he probably should start to give some thought to Perry, if he hasn’t already. Perry, after all, attracted more votes than Romney did — and Perry wasn’t even on the ballot.

Ed: Only Rick Santorum ventured into the spin room to give a reaction to the straw poll results.  Jake Tapper did an interview with Santorum which will probably have this in it, but I overheard Santorum tell Tapper, “I will be a factor in the caucus.”  Sounds like he’s not planning to get out — at least not now.

Also, it’s worth noting that the straw poll reported write-ins that got 1% or more of the total, roughly 169 votes.  Rick Perry was the only undeclared candidate to get enough to report.  There were 162 “scattered” votes reported.  That means that Sarah Palin, who showed up to the Iowa state fair yesterday, couldn’t have received any more than 162 write-ins, and that Perry managed to do all right despite the supposed insult he delivered to Iowans.

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Congratulations to Michelle. To have beat RP in a straw poll, given the history of how his supporters flood these straw polls, is a very impressive win.

BruthaMan on August 13, 2011 at 9:29 PM

That’s a fact.

Key West Reader on August 13, 2011 at 9:36 PM

Congratulations, Mighty Michelle~!

Key West Reader on August 13, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Hmm. . . a rat’s ass I do not give.

/yoda

RedNewEnglander on August 13, 2011 at 9:41 PM

katy the mean old lady on August 13, 2011 at 9:01 PM

You just had to show me Audrey Hepburn tonight, didn’t you? This woman, the only reason I agreed to play Henry Higgins in our high school attempt at this musical farce (my ability to fake a decent Brit accent as why they asked me to, certainly not my singing), was that one and singular woman. I was too young for her then, of course, and far too poor, but our Eliza Doolittle wasn’t too shabby either, come to think about it. My ranch hands laugh and give me shit about this today … that, yes, they work for a “stage actor”, indeed laughable.

TXUS on August 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Ames straw poll results: Bachmann wins narrowly over Paul

Prolly already been said but the headline says it all. No offense to Bachmann but winning narrowly over Ron Paul……

That fact alone should how much weight one should put into this poll.

mikkins on August 13, 2011 at 9:48 PM

We don’t even support the Department of energy and it’s funding of our nuclear weapons let alone patrolling the middle east.

Spathi on August 13, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Who’s “we”? I support Paul, but if you’re advocating total unilateral nuclear disarmament … pardon my French … you’re batsh!t crazy. Never heard Paul say anything like that and I certainly wouldn’t support it. You could easily fold all the NNSA stuff under DoD, and get rid of the DoE, though, IMHO.

Firefly_76 on August 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM

So, did anybody write in Palin?

Count to 10 on August 13, 2011 at 9:59 PM

On the whole, this was a fun, fun weekend — and campaigns do tell us a significant amount about a candidate’s ability to construct a vision, assemble a team, organize, etc., etc.

Sounds as though Obama would have won if he were there.

burt on August 13, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Prolly already been said but the headline says it all. No offense to Bachmann but winning narrowly over Ron Paul……

That fact alone should how much weight one should put into this poll.

mikkins on August 13, 2011 at 9:48 PM

exactly, it’s like winning a debate against a crazy Alzheimer’s patient… wait… it’s EXACTLY like that…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on August 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM

So, did anybody write in Palin?

Count to 10 on August 13, 2011 at 9:59 PM

That means that Sarah Palin, who showed up to the Iowa state fair yesterday, couldn’t have received any more than 162 write-ins..

Dire Straits on August 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM

So, did anybody write in Palin?

Count to 10 on August 13, 2011 at 9:59 PM

Somewhat sadly, because I prefer her to Perry, I think her lack of write-ins has to be telling her something right now. If she had annouced a couple of weeks ago, she’s have stormed the poll (or at least the write in).

Firefly_76 on August 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM

yay Michele! here’s $25 to celebrate with!

knob on August 13, 2011 at 10:23 PM

PERRY – P
BACHMAN – VP
CAIN – TREASURE
PALIN – ENERGY SEC

Santorum Youth group leader or something..

Romney.. and that other mormon dude (Becks Pen Pal).. oh yea the guy who invented the paper plate.. HUD or FDA chair or something..

Ron Paul.. National Little League Chair person er something like that..

amend2 on August 13, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Please end the Iowa charade (public broadcasting too).
And the homecoming king this year goes to … the guy who will be fat and bald at the ten year reunion!

kregg on August 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM

I’m not sure how to read this. Romney, who was there to debate, got less votes than Perry, who declared on the same day as the straw poll. Pawlenty decided to go after Bachmann, got him 3rd place. Sarah didn’t get any write-in votes, that we know of (if it’s less than 35 it might as well be zero).

If they had a rotating system where one state elected the President, Ron Paul would have a chance to win, other than that…..

Iowans apparently don’t waste their votes on undeclared candidates who don’t barbeque pulled pork and buy them fried twinkies.

If you look at the winners, and what they accomplished, this means little. If you’re looking at your candidates ability to sway a crowd, it means a lot. The guys at the bottom have to sweat it. McCotter may be the one exception because he didn’t participate in the debate. After listening to him talk, however, he needs to change things up a little. His speech sounded like it was prepared for a bunch of 4 year olds, very slow and very deliberate.

Vote Republican and only be called a racist one more time.

bflat879 on August 13, 2011 at 10:38 PM

Somewhat sadly, because I prefer her to Perry, I think her lack of write-ins has to be telling her something right now. If she had annouced a couple of weeks ago, she’s have stormed the poll (or at least the write in).

Firefly_76 on August 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Her supporters in Iowa already stated long ago that they will have nothing to do with the Ames straw poll. Not sure how “telling” it is that her supporters didn’t give much value to a straw poll where Ron Paul can come in second and almost came in first.

MrX on August 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Her supporters in Iowa already stated long ago that they will have nothing to do with the Ames straw poll. Not sure how “telling” it is that her supporters didn’t give much value to a straw poll where Ron Paul can come in second and almost came in first.

MrX on August 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM

And Perry had 5 from his crew down there since Tuesday pushing for write in votes.

miConsevative on August 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

T E A P A R T Y

R U L E.

amend2 on August 13, 2011 at 10:56 PM

That means that Sarah Palin, who showed up to the Iowa state fair yesterday, couldn’t have received any more than 162 write-ins..

Dire Straits on August 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Telling…

OmahaConservative on August 13, 2011 at 11:31 PM

OmahaConservative on August 13, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Palin did not make no effort to try to win..Nor did Perry..:)

PS..I am suprised Ron Paul won 2nd..A lot of work ahead for the GOP!..:)

Dire Straits on August 13, 2011 at 11:59 PM

So, did anybody write in Palin?

Count to 10 on August 13, 2011 at 9:59 PM

Who?

You-Eh-Vee on August 14, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Rick Perry got 718 write-in votes without showing up at all.

Higher than Romney,as you said. That is telling. The Iowa Straw poll doesn’t predict everything correctly, but I think the writing is on the wall for Romney.

Elisa on August 14, 2011 at 12:04 AM

but I think the writing is on the wall for Romney.

Elisa on August 14, 2011 at 12:04 AM

Da-Yamm, I sure hope so…

OmahaConservative on August 14, 2011 at 12:07 AM

Palin did not make no effort to try to win..Nor did Perry..:)

PS..I am suprised Ron Paul won 2nd..A lot of work ahead for the GOP!..:)

Dire Straits on August 13, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Actually, Perry had 5 from his campaign crew down there since Tuesday pushing for write-in votes for Perry.

The Iowa crew for Palin specifically said they did not focus at all on the straw poll. This from a few weeks ago, so you can’t claim their just saying it to cover for her:

“We’re not pushing people at all to write in Sarah Palin’s name,” he told me. “We support the Straw Poll, and encourage everyone to attend because it’s a great event for the Republican Party here in Iowa. If people want to write in her name, of course we appreciate their doing so, but we’re not doing any push for votes in the Straw Poll, in any way. Nothing–we are not even sending an email out to our mailing list in the state encouraging people to do so. We are simply not focused on this.

“No one, literally no one, will work harder for their candidate than Governor Palin’s volunteers, and no one will have the level of commitment and number of volunteers that Governor Palin will have. And there is certainly no organization that is working harder for their candidate—announced or unannounced—than Organize4Palin is working on behalf of Governor Palin.

“But for us, since our candidate is not in the race yet, we are focusing all of our attention on the caucuses on February 6, 2012. We expect her to make her decision soon, and expect that decision to be to run. At that point, the campaign will begin in earnest for Governor Palin’s grassroots supporters in this state—and we will be ready when that moment comes.

miConsevative on August 14, 2011 at 12:09 AM

What does it mean?

It means the media hit pieces shall commence forthwith.

CliffHanger on August 14, 2011 at 12:14 AM

Congratulations to Michelle. To have beat RP in a straw poll, given the history of how his supporters flood these straw polls, is a very impressive win.

It was reported that MB had given away 6000+ tickets, so don’t get too impressed.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0811/Bachmann_breaks_6000.html

Moesart on August 14, 2011 at 12:19 AM

miConsevative on August 14, 2011 at 12:09 AM

Thanks for the info..:)

Dire Straits on August 14, 2011 at 12:20 AM

McCotter may be the one exception because he didn’t participate in the debate. After listening to him talk, however, he needs to change things up a little. His speech sounded like it was prepared for a bunch of 4 year olds, very slow and very deliberate.
bflat879 on August 13, 2011 at 10:38 PM

He always sounds like that. I’ve been listening to him in interviews about 4 years now. He has a weird talent of not being able to sound off the cuff, even when he is. It’s definitely a double edged sword.

Dongemaharu on August 14, 2011 at 12:25 AM

Ok, so Bachmann will be the next president, or Ron Paul. Good to know.

Oh wait, you mean the Ames Poll doesn’t mean much?

alwaysfiredup on August 14, 2011 at 12:45 AM

It was reported that MB had given away 6000+ tickets, so don’t get too impressed.

Moesart on August 14, 2011 at 12:19 AM

Bachmann wins, but it’s meaningless. Palin loses, but it’s telling.

Up is down, black is white, night is day.

alwaysfiredup on August 14, 2011 at 12:46 AM

Congrats to Michele! And Rick Santorum ended up in the top five so I guess he’s staying in, too.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on August 14, 2011 at 1:09 AM

you mean the Ames Poll doesn’t mean much?

The Ames results from 4 years ago:

1 Mitt Romney 4,516 31.6%
2 Mike Huckabee 2,587 18.1%
3 Sam Brownback 2,192 15.3%
4 Tom Tancredo 1,961 13.7%
5 Ron Paul 1,305 9.1%
6 Tommy Thompson 1,039 7.3%
7 Fred Thompson 203 1.4%
8 Rudy Giuliani 183 1.3%
9 Duncan Hunter 174 1.2%
10 John McCain 101 0.7%
11 John H. Cox 41 0.3%

Emperor Norton on August 14, 2011 at 1:18 AM

Congrats to Michele Bachmann..:)

Dire Straits on August 14, 2011 at 1:24 AM

Iowa…

“Look at me! Look at me..!! LOOK AT ME…!!!”

On 09/11/2011…

… no one will remember this.

Seven Percent Solution on August 14, 2011 at 1:49 AM

miConsevative on August 14, 2011 at 12:09 AM

That may be, however: Palin didn’t “offend” IAs like Perry supposedly did, Palin showed up in IA while Perry did not, and still Perry got 718 votes to her under 162. Interesting.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on August 14, 2011 at 2:08 AM

and since reports had her giving out 6,000 tickets to the event

Wonder how many went to Ron Paul fans.

Ronnie on August 14, 2011 at 2:28 AM

miConsevative on August 14, 2011 at 12:09 AM

That may be, however: Palin didn’t “offend” IAs like Perry supposedly did
-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on August 14, 2011 at 2:08 AM

So according to your own words, even you’re not sure if this was a factor. And did Palin show up as a candidate or was she invited?

Dongemaharu on August 14, 2011 at 2:32 AM

The Ames results from 4 years ago:

1 Mitt Romney 4,516 31.6%
2 Mike Huckabee 2,587 18.1%
3 Sam Brownback 2,192 15.3%
4 Tom Tancredo 1,961 13.7%
5 Ron Paul 1,305 9.1%
6 Tommy Thompson 1,039 7.3%
7 Fred Thompson 203 1.4%
8 Rudy Giuliani 183 1.3%
9 Duncan Hunter 174 1.2%
10 John McCain 101 0.7%
11 John H. Cox 41 0.3%

Emperor Norton on August 14, 2011 at 1:18 AM

Holy crap monkeys, that is where Johnny Hobbit was 4 years ago? At least Rudy beat him there.

AshleyTKing on August 14, 2011 at 2:48 AM

What does it mean?

Don’t mean nothin’.

Were I to run for President, I’d not waste a dime going there, or ten seconds thinking about it. It is not just meaningless, it is silly.

LegendHasIt on August 14, 2011 at 2:57 AM

since reports had her giving out 6,000 tickets to the event, it’s not exactly a big endorsement.

So this was the straw poll, then come the “caucuses,” then what, the actual vote?

It’s like having a pre-pre-Super Bowl and then a pre-Super Bowl, then the Super Bowl.

WGAF?

Akzed on August 14, 2011 at 3:01 AM

Congratulations to Mitt Romney and Rick Perry, who had the good common sense not to waste their contributors’ hard-earned money on feeding the Iowa state party, which is Ames’ sole object.

Congratulations to Michelle Bachmann for winning an event with a negative correlation to winning the nomination or the general election, and only barely better than even chances of winning the Iowa Caucuses.

And we should all burn a fatty in honor of Ron Paul’s near miss in spite of his mental handicap.

Adjoran on August 14, 2011 at 3:19 AM

Adjoran on August 14, 2011 at 3:19 AM

Good Post!..:)

Dire Straits on August 14, 2011 at 3:23 AM

It’s like pre-season football games. Like the honey badger, no one really gives a s***.

SouthernGent on August 14, 2011 at 3:38 AM

SouthernGent on August 14, 2011 at 3:38 AM

Oh, no, honey badger gives a sh*t. Or he would walk away from the honey bees.

AshleyTKing on August 14, 2011 at 3:43 AM

Emperor Norton on August 14, 2011 at 1:18 AM

In 6 Ames Straw Polls, the winner of the straw poll went on to win the nomination 2 times (Dole tied with Gramm in ’95 where Dole went on to be the nominee, then again in ’99 with Bush). Although, Bush is the only president to win the straw poll and win the general election (in the same election cycle, since Bush, Sr. won in ’79 but didn’t get elected president until ’92).

The candidate that came in second place won the caucus 2 times (Bob Dole in ’87 and Mike Huckabee in ’07) while the winner went on to win the caucus 3 times (Bush in ’79, Dole in ’95 and Bush in ’99). So, if history holds true, either Bachmann or Paul will win Iowa but, means little in regards to the nomination. New Hampshire, on the other hand, has picked the nominee 6 of the last 10 election cycles (not including incumbents).

gyrmnix on August 14, 2011 at 5:58 AM

Much as I love and plan to support Michelle, I can’t get over how the LSM (and HA too) make it sound as if she’s only a short step above crazy aunt status. It’s impossible to dispute that after the debate and his rants, RP should be kept in the attic.

Mr. Grump on August 14, 2011 at 6:50 AM

If Sarah doesn’t run, Michele Bachmann would be my choice. Rick Perry is too much of a “compassionate conservative” for me and his stand and past statements on amnesty and open borders really scare me.

As badly as we need to defeat Obama, we don’t need George Bush’s third term.

bw222 on August 14, 2011 at 10:04 AM

You won’t be sorry to read this article. It’s revealing from so many levels, especially how the Bushs ‘hate’ Perry for being so Texan, so authentically Texan.

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Thanks for posting this. Quite revealing indeed. A lot of information on Gov. Perry and his thoughts on many issues; not only on Texas, but at the Federal level also.

bluefox on August 14, 2011 at 10:49 AM

MB is getting dismantled on Meet the Press. She’s a deer in the headlights, repeating non-answer after non-answer to just about every question. From the fact that she hasn’t ever done anything in government, to her crazy remarks on gays and her “submissiveness” to just about everything she was asked.

These topics come as no surprise to anyone who has paid attention since the 1st debate. Watching her pathetically try to duck on MTP is a whole, new ball game because of its much more general audience.

MJBrutus on August 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM

What doe sit mean?

- Cong. Michelle REPORTEDLY handed out 6,000 tickets (at $30/pop) and ONLY GOT around 4,500 votes?!

Translation: you can’t count on Iowans to walk away from the FREE deep fried butter in order to take a few minutes to cast a vote… Such gratitide… Perhaps we could hand them some “walking around money” when they actually fill out the ballot (like the Democrats STILL do in the big cities)…

Still trying to figure out WHY a fund raiser for the Iowa state G.O.P. loaded with free bus rides and live entertainment for selfish people has ANYTHING to do with picking MY PRESIDENT out here in SOCAL (or ANY of the other 49 states)… Governor Moonbeam just moved the California state primary back to June AGAIN, so my vote will not mean anything since the presumptive Republican party nominee will already have been decided LONG before that…

Time for this unnecessary part of the political process to go the way of the dodo bird… I hope Perry runs the table without it and doesn’t participate in 2016 either… Maybe Ron Paul will win it then (WHAT MESSAGE WILL THAT SEND!?)…

Khun Joe on August 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Here’s hoping that Tina Brown is pulling her hair out by its black roots in absolute out of control……….wait for it……..RAGE!!!!!!

pilamaye on August 14, 2011 at 11:36 AM

Rubio: Stay in the Senate!!! Vice-President
Emperor Norton on August 13, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Perhaps unwittingly, you torpedoed your natural born citizen argument.

rukiddingme on August 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM

I wish someone could tell me why we care about Iowa or New Hampshire more than any other state? Even if it’s only early on(that we care) and ‘tradition’ I find the arrogance that flows from the ‘winners’ supporters to be nauseating. And yet it gratifies me to see them eat humble pie when, once again, their candidate doesn’t win another state during the primary.

StompUDead on August 14, 2011 at 11:46 AM

So this was the straw poll, then come the “caucuses,” then what, the actual vote?

It’s like having a pre-pre-Super Bowl and then a pre-Super Bowl, then the Super Bowl.

WGAF?

Akzed on August 14, 2011 at 3:01 AM

Akzed,

For many states the caucuses ARE the real vote — they don’t have primaries.

unclesmrgol on August 14, 2011 at 11:51 AM

StompUDead on August 14, 2011 at 11:46 AM

We care because we are a herd. Those in the front of the herd are capable of turning the herd — those in the back just get to follow.

unclesmrgol on August 14, 2011 at 11:53 AM

MJBrutus on August 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Sounds like the standard liberal talking points of the same ilk used against Ms. Palin.

unclesmrgol on August 14, 2011 at 11:57 AM

unclesmrgol on August 14, 2011 at 11:57 AM

What a load. MB was hit with her own taped remarks. This wasn’t some smear job, it was the honest truth of her own words. It wasn’t some below the belt fabricated scandal like Palin was hit with. Nope, it was Bachmann unplugged and she had no answer. She didn’t even have a pre-programmed escape plan, she just looked like a roach having had the light shined on it. Scrambling for cover with nothing to hide behind.

I’m no fan of Palin, but she was truly smeared in a disgusting, dishonest and very personal way. Bachmann was simply exposed by her own nutty words.

MJBrutus on August 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM

We care because we are a herd. Those in the front of the herd are capable of turning the herd — those in the back just get to follow.

unclesmrgol on August 14, 2011 at 11:53 AM

I must be wandering alone in the country side then because rarely if ever do I have my head shoved up some other beast’s (even a fellow conservative’s) rear end far enough that I can’t tell when they’re walking into a slaughter house.

StompUDead on August 14, 2011 at 3:05 PM

The Ames poll is about as useful as the Heisman trophy. It means nothing. the Ames poll has only picked the Republican nominee twice in its five votes. .400 is fine for baseball, but not for political predictions. We still have 15 months to go.

cannonball on August 14, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Anyone know how many tickets Ron Paul gave out?

cannonball on August 14, 2011 at 7:07 PM

It means even alleged conservative politicians will pay people $30 in the hopes that they won’t vote their conscience.

we’re all doomed.

DailyDanet on August 15, 2011 at 9:31 AM

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