Huckabee to Perry: You screwed up badly by “dissing” Iowa

posted at 8:50 pm on August 11, 2011 by Allahpundit

Neither of them will be onstage tonight but this is ideal pre-debate blog fodder. There’s bad blood here and that could be a big deal five months from now when caucus time arrives.

“It’s a tactical blunder … The people of Iowa work very hard to make the straw poll the biggest political moment in the summer,” Huckabee said. “If you have a candidate who says, ‘You know what, I’m not gonna be there, I’m gonna be over in South Carolina, trying to pull as much attention as possible away from your big event’ – I’ll tell you, the people of Iowa are gracious, loving, kind people, and they’re not gonna take kindly to someone, in essence, dissing their big event. Which is what it will be reviewed as in the state of Iowa.”…

Huckabee, who came in second in the 2007 Ames straw poll, likened the presidential primary process to a marathon, advising: “You don’t get to start at mile No. 6.”…

He predicted: “You watch, the other candidates will beat the daylights out of him for not respecting the Iowa straw poll. So will the Iowa Republican Party. And out there, just sort of the conversation on the streets, will be that it was bad form.”

Not the first time that Perry’s been sneered at for bigfooting the straw poll, but it is the first time that someone’s dismissed his Saturday announcement in South Carolina on grounds that, and I quote, only “the B-team of national political reporters” will be there. Good lord. Most readers already know the backstory here, but if you don’t, this post by Kay Henderson recounts the drama. Perry broke Huckabee’s heart by not endorsing him in 2007, stating flatly at the time, “I just don’t think he can win.” The candidate whom Perry did think could win and whom he did endorse? Er, Rudy Giuliani. Huck hasn’t forgotten. A few weeks ago he included this acidic line about Perry in an e-mail to contributors to his PAC: “For all his new found commitment to hyper-conservatism, he’ll get to explain why he supported pro-abortion, pro-same sex marriage Rudy Guiliani last time.” He also pointedly neglected to mention Perry when asked in June about which candidate he might support this time.

Here’s where you say, “Who cares what Huckabee thinks?” Well, Iowans do, potentially, especially social conservatives who backed him three years ago. Huckabee’s going to be there this weekend to mingle; Cain, Pawlenty, and Santorum have arranged for him to jam with the band in each of their tents as a testament to his abiding influence in the state. Which raises a tantalizing question: What happens if Iowa turns into a three-way race between Romney, Perry, and Bachmann, with Perry holding a slight lead? Winning the caucuses would catapult him to frontrunner status and maybe give him a shot to bump off Romney in New Hampshire and run the table. Huckabee, for all the reasons above, won’t be thrilled with that and might try to tip the balance against him with an eleventh-hour endorsement. But who does he endorse? Bachmann would seem the obvious choice given her social conservative pedigree, but Bachmann almost certainly won’t stop Romney in New Hampshire and might not even stop him in South Carolina if the GOP establishment lines up against her on electability grounds. I can’t believe I’m asking this, but would Huckabee ever consider endorsing … Mitt Romney? Romney might be the only candidate in the field capable of stopping Perry in a long fight to the nomination. And don’t forget that Huck did have some kind words for Mitt not long ago. What if it happened? Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria.

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Once again, Who cares about what Huck says?

Sporty1946 on August 11, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Things are getting interesting!

Throw Ms. Sarah into the mix…

gophergirl on August 11, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Oh, well, Perry might just well have to live with the fact that Iowans are upset.

Hey, Iowa! Take a Midol and forget about it!

john1schn on August 11, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Cain, Pawlenty, and Santorum have arranged for him to jam with the band in each of their tents as a testament to his abiding influence in the state.

The country isn’t sliding into abyss, we’re there. And we get this crap.

Marcus on August 11, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Huck has a large soapbox for the next 16 months.

a capella on August 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM

I guess the same can be said for Sarah Palin? Or would Huck not want to throw a fellow co-worker under the bus?

Knucklehead on August 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Will not take advice from someone who lost to Juan McLame.

andy85719 on August 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Saw the interview. I definitely got the impression that Huckabee is not a Perry supporter. A body language and tone of voice kind of thing. But I recall he didn’t like Romney either the last go around. Likely will be Perry v. Romney.
Could get interestin’.

humdinger on August 11, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Huck has a large soapbox for the next 16 months.

a capella on August 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Naah. A matchbox maybe.

slickwillie2001 on August 11, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Once again, Who cares about what Huck says?

Sporty1946 on August 11, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Frankly….who cares what Iowa conservatives have to say?

I mean, seriously, I’m beyond fed up with them. You’re not the center of the goddamn world, Iowa. Quit acting like every GOP hopeful needs to pucker up and deep-kiss your arsehole.

Vyce on August 11, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Go back to Destin and STFU Huckabee. Nobody cares what you think.

NoLeftTurn on August 11, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Sorry Huck, if I had to bet, I’d bet on Perry.

petefrt on August 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM

I don’t think Gov Perry is going on the Huckabee show anytime soon…

Khun Joe on August 11, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Iowa is one state out of fifty. They are nothing special. They should not be exalted or groveled to. In short, Iowa can suck it.

KSgop on August 11, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Why is the Huckabigot always trying to play spoiler? Inferiority complex? I wish he would just go away!

davenp35 on August 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Huckabees’ Iowa supporters are Bachmann supporters this year.

beatcanvas on August 11, 2011 at 9:11 PM

How about we get a bipartisan consensus on primary reform? Someone call Kos and that forensic gyno Sullivan. We’re all for this.

HitNRun on August 11, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Never going to rip a person for going to Charleston, under any conditions. Fantastic city. Oh, and the straw poll is a joke.

stldave on August 11, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Here’s where we reiterate, “Who cares what Huckabee thinks? And who cares what Iowa thinks?”

Pablo Snooze on August 11, 2011 at 9:17 PM

This is the best they’ve come up with to throw at him so far?

Seriously?

logis on August 11, 2011 at 9:21 PM

2007 Ames Straw Poll results:

1 Mitt Romney 4,516 31.6%
2 Mike Huckabee 2,587 18.1%
3 Sam Brownback 2,192 15.3%
4 Tom Tancredo 1,961 13.7%
5 Ron Paul 1,305 9.1%
6 Tommy Thompson 1,039 7.3%
7 Fred Thompson 203 1.4%
8 Rudy Giuliani 183 1.3%
9 Duncan Hunter 174 1.2%
10 John McCain 101 0.7%
11 John H. Cox 41 0.3%

Remember how that turned out?

Caiwyn on August 11, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Iowa voted for Obama in 2008. Bush in 2004. Before that, the last GOP nominee they backed was Reagan.

AS for the straw poll, they picked Romney in 2007, Robertson in 1987, and Bush in 1979. In 1995 Phil Gramm tied with Bob Dole.

amerpundit on August 11, 2011 at 9:30 PM

What? Kowtowing to Iowa is the new norm? Pfffft, enough of the cornfed people, there are other folks in America too.

Bishop on August 11, 2011 at 9:30 PM

The fact Huck isn’t a fan somehow makes me like Perry more. And, as far as dissing Iowa goes, last I checked neither the straw poll winner or the caucus winner last round ended up the nominee, so clearly they aren’t as important as they think they are. I’m tired of a select few states deciding who’s in the field by the time my state gets a shot to vote, anyway.

changer1701 on August 11, 2011 at 9:31 PM

I guess the same can be said for Sarah Palin? Or would Huck not want to throw a fellow co-worker under the bus?

Knucklehead on August 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Are you one of those always b1tching about Perry threads becoming Palin threads? Only when it’s convenient, I guess.

ddrintn on August 11, 2011 at 9:32 PM

From a guy who didn’t even make it through the primary.

mizflame98 on August 11, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Cain, Pawlenty, and Santorum have arranged for him to jam with the band in each of their tents

that’s pretty pathetic as a reason for anything

windansea on August 11, 2011 at 9:35 PM

I don’t get the “Who cares what Iowa thinks?” By the same token, who cares what South Carolina thinks? Or Florida? Perry doesn’t have the national stature to come in late and then sweep the primaries after losing Iowa and NH both. Not going to happen.

ddrintn on August 11, 2011 at 9:35 PM

What? Kowtowing to Iowa is the new norm? Pfffft, enough of the cornfed people, Children of the Corn, there are other folks in America too .

Bishop on August 11, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Since Allah is into using movie quotes tonight, let’s improve on that concept.

Dr Evil on August 11, 2011 at 9:36 PM

Since Allah is into using movie quotes tonight, let’s improve on that concept.
Dr Evil on August 11, 2011 at 9:36 PM

Love the movie quotes, the more obscure the better, such as “Who is Jena Malone”?

Bishop on August 11, 2011 at 9:48 PM

What’s with these 5th runner ups? Tancredo and Huckabee stfu!

Blake on August 11, 2011 at 9:54 PM

If this turns into a social con hissy fit where only a pro-lifer or someone who has to court the evangelicals, this entire thing is sunk..it’s the economy, it’s the economy, it’s the economy.

If Rick Perry gets in and starts flouting “compassionate conservatism” and not federalism or how Texas gets business done…it’s over before it starts.

StevefromMKE on August 11, 2011 at 10:01 PM

It’s a tactical blunder … The people of Iowa work very hard to make the straw poll the biggest political moment in the summer,” Huckabee said. “If you have a candidate who says, ‘You know what, I’m not gonna be there

Huckabee needs to put the country before his hurt feelings and grow up. And I expect better from Huckabee than misrepresenting the facts.

Perry did NOT say, “I’m not gonna be there.” Quite the opposite.

A month ago the Perry people wanted to buy a booth on the Iowa grounds and were told they couldn’t. He was willing to buy a space (which not all candidates are doing), actually be there (which not all candidates are doing) and be allowed in the debates and be on the ballot.

He was denied all these things by the Iowa Republicans. He wanted to play with them but was denied.

Elisa on August 11, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Graciousness is an essential virtue for candidates and elected officials, but one that eludes Huckabee.

This is a critical election. It’s going to be d@mned hard to forgive Republicans who go negative on their Republican enemies or opponents in this cycle. If you have policy differences, air them. If you’re just going to bad-mouth and trash-talk, just shut the heck up.

Reagan’s 11th commandment is wise on multiple levels. Those of us who are active won’t forget those who simply seek to destroy.

obladioblada on August 11, 2011 at 10:04 PM

ddrintn on August 11, 2011 at 9:35 PM

coming in late??? really??? you consider getting in 6 months before the first primary “late” what a f*cking ‘tard

chasdal on August 11, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Huck’s vindictive streak (along with his class warfare game) is most unappealing. If not for that I might actually like the guy. Except when he tries to be a musician. I like that he likes music – and I like that he has musicians on his show. I just don’t want him ruining their band.

Buy Danish on August 11, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Huck no!

Perry yes.

Mojave Mark on August 11, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Shut the Huck up

strictnein on August 11, 2011 at 10:30 PM

Nearly two hours into Ames Debate and no one has bashed on Perry. Sorry Huck.

Dudley Smith on August 11, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Huck, do you deny that your son hung a dog? Hung. A. Dog.

BHO Jonestown on August 11, 2011 at 10:50 PM

I don’t get the “Who cares what Iowa thinks?” By the same token, who cares what South Carolina thinks? Or Florida? Perry doesn’t have the national stature to come in late and then sweep the primaries after losing Iowa and NH both. Not going to happen.

ddrintn on August 11, 2011 at 9:35 PM

What really gets me is that Iowans think that they are entitled to have their arses kissed a full year before the nomination is handed out. What makes them think they are so special that not starting out in their state is some kind of frackking diss? And Huckabee? Last time I looked, he was a LOSER in the primaries. Yeah, I wanna take frackking advice from that loser.

john1schn on August 11, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Huckabee is the Number one Progressive of the Republican Party.

mobydutch on August 11, 2011 at 10:53 PM

What really gets me is that Iowans think that they are entitled to (all the stuff you said)

john1schn on August 11, 2011 at 10:51 PM

+plus+plus+plus+plus+plus+plus+plus+plus and a whole bunch more plusses.

RushBaby on August 11, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Once Iowa loses its vaunted stage for them to supposedly pick who get to be President, well you will see ethanol and corn subsidies go away so fast your head will spin.

firepilot on August 11, 2011 at 11:22 PM

When did this Country determine that Iowa was going to be so important in selecting Presidential nominees? It’s really idiotic that one small state should have that much more influence then states many times bigger than it, and then at this early date! Iowa really needs to get over itself.

Susanboo on August 11, 2011 at 11:24 PM

If Rick Perry gets in and starts flouting “compassionate conservatism” and not federalism or how Texas gets business done…it’s over before it starts.

StevefromMKE on August 11, 2011 at 10:01 PM

Rick Perry has NEVER said he was a “compassionate conservative”, much less “flouted” (your word), compassionate conservatism, that was G W Bush. Just because Perry was Bush’s Lt Gov. in Texas does not mean he is his clone. He is a very different politician & person, so why don’t you find out the facts instead of making assumptions. Being from the same State does not mean you have the same views of politics & the world. I loved Bush, but Perry should be judged on his own record not that of our 43rd President.

Susanboo on August 11, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Did Sarah Palin die? I must have missed it.

But if she lives and announces on Labor Day, then the candidate who can stop everybody’s run is going to answer all of the unanswered questions in this post.

jimw on August 11, 2011 at 11:51 PM

Hucksterbee spoke a little too soon… Perry won the debate by not being at it…

phreshone on August 12, 2011 at 12:14 AM

So, sounds like the Huckster is jumping head first into the irrelevant pundit crowd. Good thing it’s a deep pool or he could get hurt.

drfredc on August 12, 2011 at 12:15 AM

Huckabee is a vicious man in sheep clothing.

Schadenfreude on August 12, 2011 at 12:18 AM

The former televangelist doesn’t like Rick Perry? Isn’t that just too bad because after seeing how Huckabee ran AR, no thanks. Ask the home schoolers about Huckabee in AR compared to Huckabee on the campaign trail — 180.

Huckabee is a grandstander and nothing more. I have said for years that the Iowa Straw poll is a joke — when you a campaign buys tickets for their people and buses them in like Romney and Huckabee did in 2008, the straw poll is worthless. Iowa being the first caucus primary state is even a bigger joke as they do not reflect the rest of our states who have been red since LBJ. IMHO a caucus is not the the way to elect a candidate as we saw how Obama cheated Hillary out of votes with the caucus system.

Don’t think Iowa or NH both states which trend blue at times should be the first primary states — the whole deal needs revamped IMHO!

PhiKapMom on August 12, 2011 at 1:00 AM

Mike,

Go HUCK yourself.

That is all.

Also Iowa and New Hampshire stop it with the mooching and screwing with the Republican primary system.

SgtSVJones on August 12, 2011 at 3:09 AM

Once again, Who cares about what Huck says?

Sporty1946 on August 11, 2011 at 8:51 PM

this!

cmsinaz on August 12, 2011 at 7:44 AM

How did Iowa become the state that all the candidates have to kiss their arses? I’m tired of their sense of self-importance, and it needs to change. Good for Perry for doing what he wants. It makes me sick to see all these politicians going there and gushing over them. Get over yourselves, Iowa. You’re nothing!

silvernana on August 12, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Who carers what Mike Huckabee thinks about anything? he is a jealous man.

Hilts on August 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM

To be blunt, screw Iowa.
They and their flatlander populism have corrupted the national political scene for long enough.
There are several states that have demographics that much better work as a microcosm of the nation than that state. IF we have to have a “first in the nation” primary, those states would be far superior for real testing of candidates.

Nathan_OH on August 12, 2011 at 9:40 AM

STFup-abee.

birdhurd on August 12, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Huck has a large soapbox for the next 16 months.

a capella on August 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Huck looks like a large soap box.

It is a sad testament to Fox News that it gives this has-been ex-governor a show.

Ditto for Giraldo Rivera.

And while you’re purging, Fox, lose whore-monger Bob Bechel and Newt Gingrich.

When I am surfing Fox’s programming, “Send in the Clowns” immediately starts playing in my mind.

molonlabe28 on August 12, 2011 at 10:43 AM

When Huckabee said a while back that he wasn’t going to run, his sly statement said “…not going to run…this year”. “THIS YEAR”. When primary season starts in 2012 [not THIS year], he’ll announce he cannot ignore the “country’s need” for him to run, and away he’ll go. Until then FOX has given him free reign to comdemn, criticize, slam, and denigrate those he considers unworthy to be POTUS – especially that Romney, whom Huckster loathes because Romney’s a Mormon. Huckabee has been campaigning non-stop since he entered the 2008 race. His blankety-blank Mormon-hating ego is why McCain wound up with the nomination. Huckabee just wouldn’t let go and bow out as long as Romney being the nominee was a possibility. Spoiler. And he will do it again in 2012.

Romney leaves me cold on many levels – past support of Algore, against the AZ stop-the-illegals legislation, besides the fact that he’s a veiled RINO. But as far as him being a Mormon, I think people should leave it alone. Yes, the Mormons have some rather odd theological doctrines – but they aren’t looking to slit our throats for not sharing those beliefs. Considering that, any Mormon would be a safer choice to be POTUS than any mainstream Catholic, Prostestant, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu, or atheist who shares the politically correct insane drivel that Islam is an innocuous, peaceful religion and/or that Muslims’ goal of a sharia-controlled United States is a false premise – Christie being the latest to be revealed as being such a knob-headed dhimmi. Any politician who panders to Islam for their votes – or for any other reason – should be tarred-and-feathered and shown the door. IMO.

GGMac on August 12, 2011 at 11:28 AM

It makes me sick to see political weather vanes like Huckabee jockeying to build their own cults of personality based on substance-free fealty when all we need to know is who is the best candidate. Trading endorsements for ass-kissing isn’t going to get us there.

And yes, Iowans, just like their boyfriend Huckabee, really do need to get over themselves. Perry is a little late getting into the race, so he has some ground to make up in the other early primary states. Egos are going to have to give way to other strategic considerations of the candidates.

Mark V. on August 12, 2011 at 12:02 PM

I completely agree about Huckabee’s petty vindictive streak, makes it impossible for me to trust him. Remember when he made that snotty remark that Sarah Palin “looks better in stillettos”? VERY unbecoming, unmanly in my opinion- and said volumes about him.

kg598301 on August 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM