Unions go 0 for 2 in Wisconsin

posted at 8:45 am on August 10, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

No, I’m not talking about last night’s tally of recall districts, which went Republican 4-2.  That narrowly denied unions in Wisconsin (and let’s not kid ourselves, nationwide) the ultimate victory they needed — a change in control of the state Senate that would have produced gridlock for at least the next several months.  In the end, they could only capture the Senate seat from a strong Democratic district and another from a scandal-plagued Republican, and neither one of those impressively.

It’s hard not to see this as a vindication of Scott Walker, given that unions made him the centerpiece of the recall effort:

“This was a referendum on Scott Walker,” state Sen. Luther Olsen, one of the winning Republicans, told POLITICO. “They tied us right to Scott Walker. They thought that would flip us and make us lose, but I knew my district supported the governor and what we did.”

The vote counting stretched into Wednesday morning before the last race was finally called. While one vulnerable Republican fell as expected and another lost by a razor-thin margin, Democrats failed to break away in the battleground districts they and outside groups had most heavily targeted. Closing up shop on his election night party in Madison before the final results were in, state Democratic Party chairman Mike Tate tried to claim some measure of victory, and promised to keep up efforts to recall Walker.

“We will not stop, we will not rest, until we recall Scott Walker from the state of Wisconsin,” Tate said.

They’re probably going to try, but as last night proved, it’s an empty threat.  For the second time, unions had an opportunity to bring their organizational and funding advantages into a special election environment, and for the second time, Wisconsin voters largely rejected them.  The union tried to unseat Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser in April, blanketing the state for challenger Joann Kloppenburg in an election that should have had a small, easily manipulated turnout.  Instead, they came up empty as Wisconsin voters turned out heavily.

The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza calls this “an undeniable defeat for labor and progressive activists”:

If these results stand, its an undeniable defeat for labor and for progressive activists.

Democrats and their allies are arguing taking down two incumbents is itself a victory, given that recalling an official is in­cred­ibly difficult and rare. But they invested very heavily in taking back the state senate and fell short.

Whether those groups will continue to push for the recall of Gov. Scott Walker (R) is unclear. …

Outside groups on both sides poured more than $25 million into this fight, in addition to the more than $5 million raised by the candidates themselves. According to the non-partisan Wisconsin Democracy Campaign’s Mike McCabe, Republicans had a slight edge in the money race, but it was “remarkably close.” Unions were the main source of funds for Democrats; limited-government groups such as the Club for Growth and Americans for Prosperity invested heavily on the GOP side.

Translation: in a straight-up race, Republicans win in Wisconsin these days.  It doesn’t help these progressive activists that Walker and the GOP produced the best budget proposal in 15 years, and that the PEU reform has already begun to save Milwaukee $11 million this year and much more across the state.  It also doesn’t help Democrats to have President Obama “leading” us into a credit downgrade, massive deficits, and no apparent plan to pull us out of the economic stagnation his policies have produced.

That’s not the end of the bad news for Democrats and their progressive-activist supporters, either.  Next Tuesday, two more recall elections take place for the state Senate, this time two of the fleebagger seats, thanks to the reaction from the GOP to the union’s efforts to recall Republicans.  It’s possible that the unions will go 0 for 3 in 2011 and end up handing back the two pickups they got last night.  The unions will have ended up spending millions to end up right where they began — locked out of Madison — while adding a powerful display of electoral impotence to their brand.  They have discredited themselves with Wisconsin voters in a way that Walker and the GOP couldn’t possibly have planned, the victim of their own arrogance in attempting to overturn elections for no other reason that protecting their own featherbeds.

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More proof that Unions are for people who can’t think for themselves. In fact, unions are for people who can’t think.

NickDeringer on August 10, 2011 at 8:48 AM

The Wobblies are wobbling.

Akzed on August 10, 2011 at 8:49 AM

And the Tea Party marched on…

Cookies Mom on August 10, 2011 at 8:50 AM

The ultra-left Twittards can not stop bitching about “Waukesha County” and have taken to calls for “London-style justice” there. Apparently it is a Conservative rich area?

Marcus on August 10, 2011 at 8:50 AM

HA! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

SUCK IT COMMIES!!

rollthedice on August 10, 2011 at 8:51 AM

I want those two seats next week. I want them bad!

Congrats Scott Walker and the GOP – a well deserved victory.

gophergirl on August 10, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Fleebagger. Still one of my favorite terms.

search4truth on August 10, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Absolutely LOVE IT!!!

FloridaBill on August 10, 2011 at 8:53 AM

It’s a well-known truism: you can’t win if you don’t fight.

It’s good to see that if you fight, you can (and do) win.

Scott H on August 10, 2011 at 8:54 AM

It’s possible that the unions will go 0 for 3 in 2011 and end up handing back the two pickups they got last night. 

Not only that. They will have traded two experienced Senators for two newbies.

AH_C on August 10, 2011 at 8:54 AM

Scott Walker probably slept like a baby last night. Now he has nothing to fear.

This was when he was going to be at his weakest – his numbers are down from passing his reforms, and they’re only now taking effect. The Dems are going to take a crack at him in November 2012, no doubt, but he can only go up from here.

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 8:56 AM

“We will not stop, we will not rest, until we recall Scott Walker from the state of Wisconsin,” Tate said.

Is Mike Tate that dense that he doesn’t realize the voters in Wisconsin sent him and the Democrats a clear message; in this case, POUND SAND?

pilamaye on August 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM

I was under the impression that democrats outspent Republicans by a 2-1 margin. Am I wrong?

Mord on August 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM

It’s a well-known truism: you can’t win if you don’t fight.

It’s good to see that if you fight, you can (and do) win.

Scott H on August 10, 2011 at 8:54 AM

Ditto. That’s why we need to fight for a conservative potus, because a CINOA will still lose the war in 2012.

AH_C on August 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM

The Democrat/union axis of thuggery can “win” moral victories like this all they want.

The end result is that they’re still in the minority.

Good Lt on August 10, 2011 at 8:58 AM

Congrats! It’s a great win!

tinkerthinker on August 10, 2011 at 8:58 AM

I was under the impression that democrats outspent Republicans by a 2-1 margin. Am I wrong?

Mord on August 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM

If you substitute the word “outspent” for the phrase “wasted time and money big time”, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

pilamaye on August 10, 2011 at 8:59 AM

0 for 3 would kill them! 0 for 4 and they would line up for mass suicides…

Karmi on August 10, 2011 at 8:59 AM

0 for 3 would kill them! 0 for 4 and they would line up for mass suicides… Karmi on August 10, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Then let’s hope for 0 for 5.

Akzed on August 10, 2011 at 9:02 AM

Gotv!

Screw the new civility…this is war!

cmsinaz on August 10, 2011 at 9:02 AM

Many thanks to Al Gore for waking the people up about stealing elections.

docflash on August 10, 2011 at 9:02 AM

Heres how crazy and psychotic the left is:

Even if and when Wisconsin school districts realize the gains through Scotts leadership (in the $$$M’s already as Ed pointed out) – they will still campaign against him as “Hitler”, “anti teacher”, etc.

IN fact, many of those who are getting a better deal – while barely noticing that pre tax 17% for bennies, will be the first greedy dunces on line.

If it looks like he will lose a reelection, I suggest he roll back his program in Aug, pre election – and before the school year kicks in. Watching a few hundred teachers get a pink slip for not supporting him would make thier heads explode

Odie1941 on August 10, 2011 at 9:02 AM

THIS IS WHAT WASTING TIME AND MONEY UP THE YAHOO WAZOO LOOKS LIKE!!!

pilamaye on August 10, 2011 at 9:04 AM

But, hey, thank you lefties for pouring millions of dollars into Wisconsin’s economy. Too bad you didn’t get the return on investment you thought you would.

Mangy Scot on August 10, 2011 at 9:05 AM

The scary/annoying part of this, though, is how it’s opened up the left to the idea of extending the metaphor of The Permanent Campaign to now The Permanent Election.

The unions may have squandered $50 million or so on these and the Wisconsin Supreme Court elections, but the concept of simply going out and getting recall petitions validated to hamper the legislative process mid-term whenever you don’t like the way the regular election has turned out has now been established at the state level. Other swing state’s moving Red that have the recall option will probably be seeing similar tactics if those states see their top offices switch from D to R over the next few years (and as long as the Democrats have access to union dues or deep pocket billionaires looking to game the system, there will be cash out there to support turning election season into a 365-day a year event).

jon1979 on August 10, 2011 at 9:06 AM

for the first time in my adult life, I am proud of WISCONSIN!!!!!

SDarchitect on August 10, 2011 at 9:06 AM

Whether they wanted to or not, Walker and the Republicans need to eradicate all unions in Wisconsin as their one and only mission. The dumbest thing they could do is go limp and try to make peace in typical defeatest Republican style.

Buddahpundit on August 10, 2011 at 9:07 AM

Break. Obliterate. The. Unions.

OmahaConservative on August 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Mord on August 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM

In Democrat math that means the Pubs out spent them. Does that help you understand the mess at the federal level also?

chemman on August 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM

So union memebrs – are you all cool with your union gods wasting your money on failing political campaigns?

I mean, isnt the rhetoric all about the “kids” and their ability to thrive, while teachers “just get by on a low salary with a 456:1 kid to teacher ratio?” How many late night hours of grading will need to be made up? How many out of pocket $$$ will you spend to compensate for $50M?

Reason #27 for union members “stupidity”

Odie1941 on August 10, 2011 at 9:11 AM

They have discredited themselves with Wisconsin voters in a way that Walker and the GOP couldn’t possibly have planned, the victim of their own arrogance in attempting to overturn elections for no other reason that protecting their own featherbeds.

I hope this is true, but it reads a bit strong.

The independents might be leaning right these days, but they leaned left in 06 and 08 when the Dems were crowing about a “permanent majority”. It’s not like WI suddenly changed into Alabama and HotAir picked up millions of more devotees.

mankai on August 10, 2011 at 9:11 AM

The Head Kos Kid is spinning this to a point that he must be a descendent of English nobility… The Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. “We’ll call it a draw.”

michaelo on August 10, 2011 at 9:11 AM

The Democrat/union axis of thuggery can “win” moral victories like this all they want.

The end result is that they’re still in the minority.

Good Lt on August 10, 2011 at 8:58 AM

Probably a good piece of advice for those among us who still want to swing for the fences in every race.

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 9:11 AM

The millions and millions of dollars wasted on the recall failure will be drain on the national budget, if we ever have one. That made it imperative for the debt ceiling to be raised, they have an election to buy next year. Sure was nice of the RINO establishment GOP to be so “compromising”.

volsense on August 10, 2011 at 9:12 AM

I was under the impression that democrats outspent Republicans by a 2-1 margin. Am I wrong?

[Mord on August 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM]

Nope. $30M with 2/3rds spent by Dems.

$20M down the drain. Seems like a good reason to go for more recalls of Dems. Drain their coffers.

Dusty on August 10, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Does this mean Illinois will be having an employment boom in the hotel industry?

Rovin on August 10, 2011 at 9:13 AM

Thank you, Wisconsin!!!!!!!

Mutnodjmet on August 10, 2011 at 9:13 AM

The scary/annoying part of this, though, is how it’s opened up the left to the idea of extending the metaphor of The Permanent Campaign to now The Permanent Election.

(and as long as the Democrats have access to union dues or deep pocket billionaires looking to game the system, there will be cash out there to support turning election season into a 365-day a year event).

jon1979 on August 10, 2011 at 9:06 AM

Yes, but Wisconsin just proved that doesn’t have to be a losing battle.

Mangy Scot on August 10, 2011 at 9:13 AM

Why are unions still so obsessed with Wisconsin when other states(Ohio for example) have been implementing similar plans? I get that Wisconsin is symbolic and in many ways the front line in this ideological battle(not to mention a bluer state), but they’re p-ssing away millions of dollars in union dues on this nonsense. And given what Walker and the GOP legislature just passed, those millions won’t be as easily replenished anymore.

Doughboy on August 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM

GO WISCONSIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lilium on August 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM

RT @BroadwayMungo: It looks like John Adams still beats Jimmy Hoffa any day of the week in Wisconsin. #WIrecall

Heh

txhsmom on August 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Does this mean Illinois will be having an employment boom in the hotel industry?

Rovin on August 10, 2011 at 9:13 AM

No, but I understand that the Wisconsin Democratic Party has purchased a condo in Rockford, Illinois. Right next to the Scottish Hooters.

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 9:15 AM

“Wisconsin budget fight seems like ‘an assault on unions’” – President DownGrade

It’s called Shared Sacrifice, ⇓DG⇓. You might want to take notes.

Electrongod on August 10, 2011 at 9:16 AM

The unions borrowed heavily to elect Obama. This cleans out their cash and leaves less for 2012.
Now people can again remain proud to be cheese heads.

seven on August 10, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Nope. $30M with 2/3rds spent by Dems.

$20M down the drain. Seems like a good reason to go for more recalls of Dems. Drain their coffers.

Dusty on August 10, 2011 at 9:12 AM

How Rovian. This sort of stuff just doesn’t make it into Newt’s cerebellum.

BobMbx on August 10, 2011 at 9:19 AM

Haven’t commented around here in a long while, but….

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Saltysam on August 10, 2011 at 9:20 AM

Closing up shop on his election night party in Madison before the final results were in, state Democratic Party chairman Mike Tate tried to claim some measure of victory, and promised to keep up efforts to recall Walker.

“We will not stop, we will not rest, until we recall Scott Walker from the state of Wisconsin,” Tate said.

Good luck with that, Mikey

OmahaConservative on August 10, 2011 at 9:22 AM

But, hey, thank you lefties for pouring millions of dollars into Wisconsin’s economy. Too bad you didn’t get the return on investment you thought you would.

Mangy Scot on August 10, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Minnesota’s too. There were dozens of ads on Twin Cities television stations because one of the races was in a border district. I read that over a million dollars were spent on Shelly Moore’s behalf and she got crushed 58-42. Sweet.

Mr. D on August 10, 2011 at 9:23 AM

The 2012 tsunami began last night in WI. 2012 will be epic.

jbh45 on August 10, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Two options the libs will surely pick from:

1) Demand re-counts
2) Riot like their British brethren

DamnYankee on August 10, 2011 at 9:23 AM

For the THIRD time in my adult life, I am proud of WISCONSIN!!!!!

artist on August 10, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Saltysam on August 10, 2011 at 9:20 AM

Where have you been?

OmahaConservative on August 10, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Why are unions still so obsessed with Wisconsin when other states(Ohio for example) have been implementing similar plans? I get that Wisconsin is symbolic and in many ways the front line in this ideological battle(not to mention a bluer state), but they’re p-ssing away millions of dollars in union dues on this nonsense. And given what Walker and the GOP legislature just passed, those millions won’t be as easily replenished anymore.

Doughboy on August 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM

I’ve wondered that, too. Michigan just passed a new law essentially gutting tenure — seniority canNOT be considered by school districts in any hiring, firing, or layoffs. And there was hardly a peep from the state’s unions. But I ask myself, if there is no more tenure, essentially no more life-long job protection, what the hell is the point of a teachers union there? Why would those people continue to pay union dues for…nothing? It makes no sense to me. Maybe that’s why the unions were so quiet about it.

Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Next Tuesday, I encourage all of you to watch MSNBC. I know it’s hard, but honestly it was a hoot last night.

SouthernGent on August 10, 2011 at 9:25 AM

The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza calls this “an undeniable defeat for labor and progressive activists”:

Man, pure music….

MOAR PLEASE!!!

BigWyo on August 10, 2011 at 9:26 AM

Two options the libs will surely pick from:

1) Demand re-counts
2) Riot like their British brethren

DamnYankee on August 10, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Both.

katy the mean old lady on August 10, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Next Tuesday, I encourage all of you to watch MSNBC. I know it’s hard, but honestly it was a hoot last night.

SouthernGent on August 10, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Sorry, I can’t stomach PMS-LSD or madcow for a second. I’ll read the highlights here.

Mangy Scot on August 10, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Why are unions still so obsessed with Wisconsin when other states(Ohio for example) have been implementing similar plans? I get that Wisconsin is symbolic and in many ways the front line in this ideological battle(not to mention a bluer state), but they’re p-ssing away millions of dollars in union dues on this nonsense. And given what Walker and the GOP legislature just passed, those millions won’t be as easily replenished anymore.

Doughboy on August 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM
I’ve wondered that, too. Michigan just passed a new law essentially gutting tenure — seniority canNOT be considered by school districts in any hiring, firing, or layoffs. And there was hardly a peep from the state’s unions. But I ask myself, if there is no more tenure, essentially no more life-long job protection, what the hell is the point of a teachers union there? Why would those people continue to pay union dues for…nothing? It makes no sense to me. Maybe that’s why the unions were so quiet about it.

Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Same here in Florida. Our county has a rule – all public school teachers only get rehired each year, with an academic review and budget “filter” as the benchmark.

And an odd, but “good fight” is going on for federal funds. Out of 16 schools – one didnt meet the academic requirement, however this school was closed within a calendar year, but feds are counting it towards the fiscal year. i.e. they specifially closed a school that was losing money – to acheive a 16 out of 16 “success rate”, but have to play a federal fund game concerning what year its counted.

NIce to hear stories of success in my immediate area, which also happens to have some of the best HS sports – statewide; in football, basketball, baseball, etc.

Odie1941 on August 10, 2011 at 9:30 AM

A big Texas TIP-o-the-Hat to Wisconsin!! Well DONE Yall!!!

Don’t let up and kick their butts again next week!!!!!

Katfish on August 10, 2011 at 9:38 AM

The ultra-left Twittards can not stop bitching about “Waukesha County” and have taken to calls for “London-style justice” there. Apparently it is a Conservative rich area?

Marcus on August 10, 2011 at 8:50 AM

Waukesha County is where the registrar screwed up in the Prosser race and forgot to input the vote totals for numerous precincts, turning a victory for the unions hack judge by several hundred votes into a victory for Prosser by several thousand.

That registrar has apparently become a bogeyman over an honest mistake because it cost the Dems a victory.

I think these idiots talking about “London-style justice” will find out the hard way exactly why it won’t work in the US, though. It worked at the Wisconsin State Fair because it was a flash mob that people weren’t expecting. Announcing it on Twitter means that people there will be preparing the shotguns in case idiots decide to start massing.

teke184 on August 10, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Have they committed suicide over at MSNBC yet? Is Mr. Ed on life support?

They were convinced they had this one in the bag last night.

What a hoot!

Knucklehead on August 10, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Shout out to my main man ernesto:

WOMP WOMP

Chuck Schick on August 10, 2011 at 9:43 AM

This is as gratifying as watching Ralphie kick the asses of Scott Farkus and Grover Dill in A Christmas Story.

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Knucklehead on August 10, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Delicious. More, please…

OmahaConservative on August 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM

“Wisconsin budget fight seems like ‘an assault on unions’” – President DownGrade

It’s called Shared Sacrifice, ⇓DG⇓. You might want to take notes.

Electrongod on August 10, 2011 at 9:16 AM

You really should trademark that, Electrongod! Put the two together and you get:

⇓President Downgrade⇓

Naturally Curly on August 10, 2011 at 9:48 AM

So much for Obama raising a billion dollars… It’s all about the turn out.

reshas1 on August 10, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Another head from the LibDemoProgresSoCommunist hydra has been decapitated.

VibrioCocci on August 10, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Have they committed suicide over at MSNBC yet? Is Mr. Ed on life support?

They were convinced they had this one in the bag last night.

What a hoot!

Knucklehead on August 10, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Not yet, but I tuned in for a moment and they were hanging purple and black bunting behind F Chuck Todd. What do you suppose that could mean?

Naturally Curly on August 10, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Another head from the LibDemoProgresSoCommunist hydra has been decapitated.

VibrioCocci on August 10, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Thankfully, the collective bargaining law just put a torch to the stump. That head’s not growing back for a long time.

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 9:53 AM

[Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 9:24 AM]

I wonder if it could be the health insurance racket the union runs. No doubt that was a cash cow for the union leaders. Was that something that hadn’t made inroads in Ohio or Michigan, or possibly those haven’t been touched in those other states?

It’s either that or some union cronies from WI have an inordinate degree of power to waste other people’s money for their own personal purposes, leaving unions members in other states paying the tab. Which is fine by me, BTW, since it’s a good opportunity for unions members to learn the lesson that the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.

Dusty on August 10, 2011 at 9:53 AM

WI really brings HOPE to me that the presidency will CHANGE in the 2012 election…

OmahaConservative on August 10, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Why are unions still so obsessed with Wisconsin when other states(Ohio for example) have been implementing similar plans? I get that Wisconsin is symbolic and in many ways the front line in this ideological battle(not to mention a bluer state), but they’re p-ssing away millions of dollars in union dues on this nonsense. And given what Walker and the GOP legislature just passed, those millions won’t be as easily replenished anymore.

Doughboy on August 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM

I’ve heard it said many times that Wisconsin is the “birthplace of Progressivism”. The unions losing Wisconsin would be like Mecca converting to Judaism.

Dominion on August 10, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Nyaaa Nyaaa pthththt

Wonder how many dead Democrats voted?

Alive there’s only so many, be passed on they’re all Democrats.

Its supposed to be one man one vote, right?

Speakup on August 10, 2011 at 10:02 AM

be=but

Speakup on August 10, 2011 at 10:03 AM

The ultra-left Twittards can not stop bitching about “Waukesha County” and have taken to calls for “London-style justice” there. Apparently it is a Conservative rich area?

Marcus on August 10, 2011 at 8:50 AM

Not sure about rich, but it IS vote-rich and conservative. In the state Supreme Court election, Prosser won Waukesha County with about 74% of over 150,000 votes cast. Brookfield, the city whose votes were overlooked by a clerical error, which gave Prosser 7,000 net votes when corrected, is in (you guessed it) Waukesha County.

Still, only one of the “recall” districts (District 8) included parts of Waukesha County, which Darling(R) carried by 4,682 votes. But two other counties contributed nearly equally to Darling’s victory: Washington Co., won by 5,068 votes, and Ozaukee Co., won by 4,285 votes, and her leads in these three suburban counties overcame an 8,660-vote deficit in Milwaukee County.

(H/T http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Page_0809.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS)

The Twittards calling for “London-style justice” might have to spread out over three counties, and might want to consider that Wisconsin cops, unlike British bobbies, carry guns.

Steve Z on August 10, 2011 at 10:03 AM

A thought.

Given that one of the recalled state senators left his wife and his district to shack up with a 25-year old, isn’t it a cosmic hilarity that his name is Randy Hopper?

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 10:04 AM

Absolutely no mention of WI on msnbc this morning. Election? What election?

angryed on August 10, 2011 at 10:04 AM

I think a big lesson of this Wisconsin election that the Obama campaign should pay attention to is that vicious personal attacks — which is all the democrats did in their campaign, and which is all that Obama plans to do in his — are not working. People are paying attention to the results of governance.

Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 10:06 AM

At what point will Union members fight back and demand that thier Unions stop wasting their money….

RedSoxNation on August 10, 2011 at 10:07 AM

A thought.

Given that one of the recalled state senators left his wife and his district to shack up with a 25-year old, isn’t it a cosmic hilarity that his name is Randy Hopper?

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 10:04 AM

And he lost because a lot of Republicans voted against him because he is a scumbag. GOP leaders should pay attention. Scumbags belong out of office or in the other party.

Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 10:08 AM

A thought.

Given that one of the recalled state senators left his wife and his district to shack up with a 25-year old, isn’t it a cosmic hilarity that his name is Randy Hopper?

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 10:04 AM

LOL…ha ha ha…that made me laugh. Thank you…

RedSoxNation on August 10, 2011 at 10:08 AM

I feel the need…the need…the need for a little Gloatfest. Because we can.

hoosiermama on August 10, 2011 at 10:09 AM

“Way to go, Wisconsin!

15 million dollars of “Obama’s Union thugs” money poured down the toilet.

Suck on that, supreme leader Obama!

try again later on August 10, 2011 at 10:10 AM

At what point will Union members fight back and demand that thier Unions stop wasting their money….

RedSoxNation on August 10, 2011 at 10:07 AM

It’s not their money; it’s our money. These are government worker unions. You should see me explain to my government worker friends that they pay no taxes — they contribute nothing to the tax base. They take their salaries out, and send a little bit back, but it’s a net loss to the tax base. Their eyes glaze over, spittle begins to drip from the corners of their mouths, and sometimes — sometimes — their little heads actually do a 360 and they vomit green pea soup!

Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 10:11 AM

And he lost because a lot of Republicans voted against him because he is a scumbag. GOP leaders should pay attention. Scumbags belong out of office or in the other party.

Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 10:08 AM

That is a little harsh. You have no idea what his situation is. Maybe he is a scumbag or maybe his wife is a scumbag. You just don’t know. Its a free country and that means that people are free to pursue their own happiness in the arms of whatever women makes them happy…Of course, you are free to judge him anyway you want…

RedSoxNation on August 10, 2011 at 10:11 AM

It’s not their money; it’s our money. These are government worker unions. You should see me explain to my government worker friends that they pay no taxes — they contribute nothing to the tax base. They take their salaries out, and send a little bit back, but it’s a net loss to the tax base. Their eyes glaze over, spittle begins to drip from the corners of their mouths, and sometimes — sometimes — their little heads actually do a 360 and they vomit green pea soup!

Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Union members have to pay dues out of thier paycheck every week. That money is supposed to go toward union business, but it generally goes to union political activity. Plus there is the money that union memebers pay in addition to thier dues to support the union political machine. That is union money that is being wasted on unproductive union activities…that is the money I am talking about…

RedSoxNation on August 10, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Democrats and their allies are arguing taking down two incumbents is itself a victory,

I guess one tells oneself this, to make the sting not sting so much? I don’t like a gloating winner, but in this case, I think the GOP has every right.

Unions did this to themselves. They tear up the peoples property, cause damage, and their motivation is purely selfish in nature. People see this now. For all that we’ve heard about shared sacrifice, this is how union people show theirs? Shaaaaaaaaame!!!

capejasmine on August 10, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Without automatic withdrawal of teacher union dues from their paychecks, every month that goes by, means a lighter donk war chest for 2012.

a capella on August 10, 2011 at 10:17 AM

I get that Wisconsin is symbolic and in many ways the front line in this ideological battle(not to mention a bluer state), but they’re p-ssing away millions of dollars in union dues on this nonsense. And given what Walker and the GOP legislature just passed, those millions won’t be as easily replenished anymore.

Doughboy on August 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM

They figured that if they could re-take the State Senate, they could try to repeal Walker’s reforms and get the millions pouring back in. They failed to overturn the state Supreme Court in the Prosser/Kloppenberg election, and failed to re-take the State Senate (with two Dem Senators up for recall next week), so their last “hope” is to recall Walker, but they need to wait another year. By then, the benefits of Walker’s reforms to the state economy will kick in, and voters might be GRATEFUL to Walker, after they have stuck by his allies in the State Senate.

Steve Z on August 10, 2011 at 10:19 AM

So how many days before we, the taxpayers, get to bail out Wisconsin’s Union’s pension plans? I sure hope those were fully funded before blowing all that discretionary cash…

stvnscott on August 10, 2011 at 10:21 AM

The union’s complaining about fraud in Waukesha? Really? What, that there wasn’t enough of it?

Eren on August 10, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Saltysam on August 10, 2011 at 9:20 AM

Good to see you Salty!

NaCly dog on August 10, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Yay Wisconsin!

Mojave Mark on August 10, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Naturally this isn’t being played as an election with national implications, but had the unions won, it certainly would have been. Congrats Wisconsin! Keep fighting.

Esthier on August 10, 2011 at 10:33 AM

“London-style justice”

Whoa….they should be careful. This isn’t England.

Bishop on August 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM

That is a little harsh. You have no idea what his situation is. Maybe he is a scumbag or maybe his wife is a scumbag. You just don’t know. Its a free country and that means that people are free to pursue their own happiness in the arms of whatever women makes them happy…Of course, you are free to judge him anyway you want…

RedSoxNation on August 10, 2011 at 10:11 AM

I like your attitude of tolerance, but I think it’s misplaced. I’m middle aged like Randy Hopper and I’m a gay man. I admit that I look at 25 year old men, but if I were in a relationship with someone my age, I wouldn’t want the stress that comes with either of us pursuing hot young men. And what Hopper did was even worse, because there were two children. The voters were right to punish Hopper for his immoral behavior towards his wife and children.

thuja on August 10, 2011 at 10:37 AM

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