Unions go 0 for 2 in Wisconsin

posted at 8:45 am on August 10, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

No, I’m not talking about last night’s tally of recall districts, which went Republican 4-2.  That narrowly denied unions in Wisconsin (and let’s not kid ourselves, nationwide) the ultimate victory they needed — a change in control of the state Senate that would have produced gridlock for at least the next several months.  In the end, they could only capture the Senate seat from a strong Democratic district and another from a scandal-plagued Republican, and neither one of those impressively.

It’s hard not to see this as a vindication of Scott Walker, given that unions made him the centerpiece of the recall effort:

“This was a referendum on Scott Walker,” state Sen. Luther Olsen, one of the winning Republicans, told POLITICO. “They tied us right to Scott Walker. They thought that would flip us and make us lose, but I knew my district supported the governor and what we did.”

The vote counting stretched into Wednesday morning before the last race was finally called. While one vulnerable Republican fell as expected and another lost by a razor-thin margin, Democrats failed to break away in the battleground districts they and outside groups had most heavily targeted. Closing up shop on his election night party in Madison before the final results were in, state Democratic Party chairman Mike Tate tried to claim some measure of victory, and promised to keep up efforts to recall Walker.

“We will not stop, we will not rest, until we recall Scott Walker from the state of Wisconsin,” Tate said.

They’re probably going to try, but as last night proved, it’s an empty threat.  For the second time, unions had an opportunity to bring their organizational and funding advantages into a special election environment, and for the second time, Wisconsin voters largely rejected them.  The union tried to unseat Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser in April, blanketing the state for challenger Joann Kloppenburg in an election that should have had a small, easily manipulated turnout.  Instead, they came up empty as Wisconsin voters turned out heavily.

The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza calls this “an undeniable defeat for labor and progressive activists”:

If these results stand, its an undeniable defeat for labor and for progressive activists.

Democrats and their allies are arguing taking down two incumbents is itself a victory, given that recalling an official is in­cred­ibly difficult and rare. But they invested very heavily in taking back the state senate and fell short.

Whether those groups will continue to push for the recall of Gov. Scott Walker (R) is unclear. …

Outside groups on both sides poured more than $25 million into this fight, in addition to the more than $5 million raised by the candidates themselves. According to the non-partisan Wisconsin Democracy Campaign’s Mike McCabe, Republicans had a slight edge in the money race, but it was “remarkably close.” Unions were the main source of funds for Democrats; limited-government groups such as the Club for Growth and Americans for Prosperity invested heavily on the GOP side.

Translation: in a straight-up race, Republicans win in Wisconsin these days.  It doesn’t help these progressive activists that Walker and the GOP produced the best budget proposal in 15 years, and that the PEU reform has already begun to save Milwaukee $11 million this year and much more across the state.  It also doesn’t help Democrats to have President Obama “leading” us into a credit downgrade, massive deficits, and no apparent plan to pull us out of the economic stagnation his policies have produced.

That’s not the end of the bad news for Democrats and their progressive-activist supporters, either.  Next Tuesday, two more recall elections take place for the state Senate, this time two of the fleebagger seats, thanks to the reaction from the GOP to the union’s efforts to recall Republicans.  It’s possible that the unions will go 0 for 3 in 2011 and end up handing back the two pickups they got last night.  The unions will have ended up spending millions to end up right where they began — locked out of Madison — while adding a powerful display of electoral impotence to their brand.  They have discredited themselves with Wisconsin voters in a way that Walker and the GOP couldn’t possibly have planned, the victim of their own arrogance in attempting to overturn elections for no other reason that protecting their own featherbeds.

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Naturally this isn’t being played as an election with national implications, but had the unions won, it certainly would have been. Congrats Wisconsin! Keep fighting.

Esthier on August 10, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Oh girlfriend, you weren’t watching MSNBC last night. They were claiming this was a huge national election cause Mr. Ed told me so.

I hope they cried themselves to sleep last night.

Knucklehead on August 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM

I got this interesting link from former HA Boss MM site..Shows all the outside money the left spent in Wisconsin..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2011 at 10:43 AM

I’m middle aged like Randy Hopper and I’m a gay man. I admit that I look at 25 year old men, but if I were in a relationship with someone my age, I wouldn’t want the stress that comes with either of us pursuing hot young men.

thuja on August 10, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Wow, did this thread take a weird turn.

Chuck Schick on August 10, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Any Republican that voted for a Marxist over Randy Hopper is not a Republican but rather a traitor and a disgrace.

pdigaudio on August 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Any Republican that voted for a Marxist over Randy Hopper is not a Republican but rather a traitor and a disgrace.

pdigaudio on August 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

I’ll file this away just in case Romney or Pawlenty win the nomination.

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

How do I know this stings for the left and there is no ‘we won 2 so it’s a victory’ reality?

The LSM is totally ignoring the story.

angryed on August 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

I’m middle aged like Randy Hopper and I’m a gay man. I admit that I look at 25 year old men, but if I were in a relationship with someone my age, I wouldn’t want the stress that comes with either of us pursuing hot young men.

thuja on August 10, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Wow, did this thread take a weird turn.

Chuck Schick on August 10, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Well, I trying to justify why the defeat of Randy Hopper is good to someone. It is relevant. If Randy Hopper had acted decently towards his wife and children, he would have won this election.

thuja on August 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Markos says

But let me just say, if tonight was a loss, I hope we have many more such “losses” in 2012.

We agree on something.

faraway on August 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Given that the Dems have now spent all their money and have nothing to gain, watch these two fleebaggers get thrown under the bus. The Dem/union GOTV effort will probably be minimal, making an easy pickup of two seats for us.

Go Wisconsin!

stefanite on August 10, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Markos says

But let me just say, if tonight was a loss, I hope we have many more such “losses” in 2012.

We agree on something.

faraway on August 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM

That dudette is scary.

It’s going to be a long year, and tens of millions of dollars of Koch money (in addition to hundreds of millions more from Rove and allies) are going to force us to fight like hell for every inch of territory. They won’t cede it willingly or fairly. They’ll do their best to cheat or buy whenever they feel they can’t win fairly.

“hundreds of millions more from Rove”?

What’s so scary are the comments. Proof again that Liberalism is genetic.

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 11:03 AM

this is what victory looks like.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Do you think that now control of the Senate is a “done deal” that Democrat turnout next week will be surpressed thereby giving the Republican candidates an edge?

Hobbes43 on August 10, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Of course the head of the Union and talking heads are vowing to fight on. Do you think they didn’t “wet their beaks” on the millions spent in this recall?

It was reported that the money spent on the recall of these 6 local races was twice the record amount spent on all the statewide races in the last cycle.

1 or 2 % would be nice.

barnone on August 10, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Do you think that now control of the Senate is a “done deal” that Democrat turnout next week will be surpressed thereby giving the Republican candidates an edge?

Hobbes43 on August 10, 2011 at 11:15 AM

The Senate stayed ours after tonight. That’s all there is to it. Winning one or two races next week will certainly help but it’s not crucial.

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 11:19 AM

The public employee dues laws that will make paying dues voluntary will have a rippling affect in the upcoming election cycles. As each old contract expires, freeing up mandatory union dues and flipping them to being voluntary, tens of millions of dollars are going to not be available for the unions to influence future elections.

This is a win win for the taxpayers.

Watching the union temper tantrum has been extremely entertaining. That has been a side benefit to all of this chaos in Wisconsin. I am glad the voters there gave the unions the spanking they deserved. Well done.

karenhasfreedom on August 10, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Don’t forget that two Wisconsin Dems are up for recall next week!

idesign on August 10, 2011 at 11:23 AM

The scary/annoying part of this, though, is how it’s opened up the left to the idea of extending the metaphor of The Permanent Campaign to now The Permanent Election.

The unions may have squandered $50 million or so on these and the Wisconsin Supreme Court elections, but the concept of simply going out and getting recall petitions validated to hamper the legislative process mid-term whenever you don’t like the way the regular election has turned out has now been established at the state level. Other swing state’s moving Red that have the recall option will probably be seeing similar tactics if those states see their top offices switch from D to R over the next few years (and as long as the Democrats have access to union dues or deep pocket billionaires looking to game the system, there will be cash out there to support turning election season into a 365-day a year event).

jon1979 on August 10, 2011 at 9:06 AM

Sad but true. A hit rate of 2/6 on a long-shot tactic like this is not bad. As you say, it demonstrates the potential here. In fact, does Wisconsin law limit the number of recall elections per senate seat? Can the democratics run a few more, maybe in November? Can they even run a recall election again against the four that they lost?

If democratics are doing this, it means that we have to use the same tactics.

slickwillie2001 on August 10, 2011 at 11:25 AM

MONEY QUOTE of the thread!!

learn the lesson that the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.

Dusty on August 10, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Katfish on August 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM

Why are unions still so obsessed with Wisconsin when other states(Ohio for example) have been implementing similar plans? I get that Wisconsin is symbolic and in many ways the front line in this ideological battle(not to mention a bluer state), but they’re p-ssing away millions of dollars in union dues on this nonsense. And given what Walker and the GOP legislature just passed, those millions won’t be as easily replenished anymore.

Doughboy on August 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Good question. It seems that the progs have decided to plant their flag in Wisconsin and declare it a line in the sand. If you look at the history of the prog movement, the Wisconsin progs take pride in the role that they have played. Maybe more an emotional choice than rational, but then that’s the story of liberalism.

I don’t think they care too much about the money. I haven’t seen a breakdown of how much of the money the dems spent came from out of state, but I’d guess most of it. I’m sure little Bammie will find some way to help them out.

slickwillie2001 on August 10, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Soros made $10 billion on Obama’s S&P insider trading info. So he can fund many more of these recall ops.

faraway on August 10, 2011 at 11:37 AM

Now we all need to help the Republican candidates win in the recall elections against the 2 Democrats on Tuesday.

Here are the web sites for the 2 Republican candidates:

Kim Simac (R)
http://kimsimacforstatesenate.com/

Jonathan Steitz (R)
http://www.steitzforsenate.com/

Please help to spread the word about these 2 candidates.

wren on August 10, 2011 at 11:38 AM

Those Kos quotes are priceless. This is the same dude that proclaimed a thousand-year Progressive Reich the night Obama was elected, and declared the Republican Party and the conservative movement dead. Now he is trying to parse out some sort of Pyrrhic victory from what has been a yearlong Progressive debacle.

How sweet it is.

rockmom on August 10, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Coming to an intersection near you…

… out of work Union thug with sign:

“Will Goon For Food!”

Seven Percent Solution on August 10, 2011 at 11:51 AM

Why are unions still so obsessed with Wisconsin when other states(Ohio for example) have been implementing similar plans? I get that Wisconsin is symbolic and in many ways the front line in this ideological battle(not to mention a bluer state), but they’re p-ssing away millions of dollars in union dues on this nonsense. And given what Walker and the GOP legislature just passed, those millions won’t be as easily replenished anymore.

Doughboy on August 10, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Madison and Milwaukee are ultra liberal. Most say Madison is to the left of Berkly CA. Most of the people in Madison live off of the government unions. With what happened in WI your taking that all away from them. The city of Milwaukee is a huge welfare town. It used to be so bad that people who lived in IL came up to Milwaukee and would get food stamps and vote. Then they used to vote so the IL could keep their welfare benefits. So now with voter id and a republican takeover the unions and welfare receipents are losing their goodies. All I can say is Finally.

I have a realitive who lives in Madison and is a retired UW worker and told me that they are pissed at Walker because he’s breaking up the unions. So whatever they are putting out up there they have the unions are scaring their members.

Waukesha county is a county where most of the communties that edge Milwaukee have high taxes. This is to keep the bums out. It’s an expensive place to live and when we lived there my husband and I had to work our butts off so we could afford a 500 sqft apt for $535 a month. That’s why it’s conserative they don’t mind paying the high taxes so they have a good place to raise their kids.

They don’t want to be doing London style justice in that area. I bet a lot of those people believe in the second amendment with their love for hunting and all.

Brat4life on August 10, 2011 at 11:52 AM

wren on August 10, 2011 at 11:38 AM

Is there any sort of polling data or previous election results available for these district races?

cktheman on August 10, 2011 at 11:57 AM

It was reported that the money spent on the recall of these 6 local races was twice the record amount spent on all the statewide races in the last cycle.

1 or 2 % would be nice.

barnone on August 10, 2011 at 11:19 AM

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Who was it said ‘get the money outta politics’? Oh, lots of those who supported the max spending on the recall fer sure.
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RalphyBoy on August 10, 2011 at 11:59 AM

I’ll file this away just in case Romney or Pawlenty win the nomination.

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Agreed. Anyone who claims to be a Republican yet votes for Obama because “their” candidate didn’t win is a disgrace. We cannot have four more years of the Kenyan Marxist fraud.

pdigaudio on August 10, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Rush just said why he was silent about WI. He wanted to see what WI would do on their own, and didn’t want to LSM accusing him of ‘interference’ with the recall election.

OmahaConservative on August 10, 2011 at 12:13 PM

That goes for progressive Republicans should the nominee be a conservative (i.e, Perry or Palin).

pdigaudio on August 10, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Apologies if already addressed, but does anyone have any info on this?

Legal Insurrection says that unless WI Repubs win at least one of the recalls next week, they are at risk of losing the Senate if the RINO Schultz jumps to the Dems.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/08/the-wisconsin-recalls-are-not-over/

Update: Next week’s recall elections may be even more important than I thought, since one group is claiming that a “RINO” state senator (Dale Schultz, who voted against the collective bargaining bill) is a risk to switch parties, which would flip the Senate unless Republicans take back one more seat. The Wisconsin State Journal referred to Schultz as one of the “ultimate winners” of last night’s vote because it puts him in the driver’s seat.

Missy on August 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Missy on August 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM

I don’t think Schultz will jump sides after witnessing what happened. He might be afraid to lose his seat. All we have to do though is win one next week and it is possible. If we win one next week it won’t matter.

Brat4life on August 10, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Brat4life on August 10, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Thanks. I haven’t followed closely enough, obviously, but what are the odds of winning one next week? Would be nice to have some security.

Missy on August 10, 2011 at 12:32 PM

If we win one next week it won’t matter.

Brat4life on August 10, 2011 at 12:26 PM

One thing that will be interesting is the voter enthusiasm. Since the unionistas cannot take back the Senate by sheer numbers, will they be as motivated to show up to protect two Fleebaggers? Republicans should have plenty of motivation to turn out next week.

pdigaudio on August 10, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Behold the power of CHEESE!

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on August 10, 2011 at 12:32 PM

If the GOP wins both elections next week, can we have the humpbot? Pretty please?

Missy on August 10, 2011 at 12:47 PM

I feel sorry for Sargeant Schultz from PMSNBC. He was doing such a good job as a Marxist cheerleader, I thought it would be a shame if it didn’t work out. It didn’t work out. Sgt. Schultz, no….I don’t feel sorry for that loser. Can’t wait to see his face when Ogabe gets voted out after one term. If he has any integrity, he will use a Japanese short sword on his innards while in a kneeling position. Hiri-Kiri,…………BANZAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

adamsmith on August 10, 2011 at 12:52 PM

Translation: in a straight-up race, Republicans win in Wisconsin these days.

Well yes, but see:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/10/wis-gops-stand-could-reverberate-elsewhere/

“The fact of the matter remains that, fighting on Republican turf, we have begun the work of stopping the Scott Walker agenda,” said state Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate.

Wisconsin in Republican Turf… I mean look how the voted in the past 6 Presidential elections:
Obama
Kerry
Gore
Clinton
Clinton
Dukakis

Who could doubt that they’re staunch Republicans and any inroads the Democrats might make into this “Republican Turf” is impressive.

Wait, Dukakis? Really guys? The last Republican who got your vote was Reagan, and that is because he pretty much got all of them.

If this is “Republican Turf” where do you find “Democrat Turf”? Is “Democrat Turf” even IN the USA? Or is in in Europe somewhere?

gekkobear on August 10, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Latest Moonbat Theory. Pass the Reynolds Wrap.

Did Gov Walker Stage Wisconsin State Fair Race Attack? This blogger thinks so.

Last week, reports came out that “500 Black Youth” attacked white visitors to the Wisconsin State Fair. Then came the predicable reactions and all of the resurfacing of the White Supremacists, who crawl out of their holes whenever they think something that smacks of a race war is going down – fools that they are. And then come the calls for the parents – where are they? – in all of this.

But the one question never asked by a gullible public is this one: how did it happen, and did it really go down?

I looked on YouTube expecting to see video, after video of kids filming themselves, or someone filming them, as they went on about the business of allegedly attacking white people at the Wisconsin State Fair. I mean, there were “500″ of them – right? That’s the report, as if someone bothered to count them.

I don’t think there were 500 kids, and further, I think someone paid those kids to do that – perhaps not every kid, but enough to be catalysts for the action.

What caused me to think this was not just what I mentioned above, but two other things: first, that Governor Scott Walker was all set to make a statement on the event, second, that the incident occurred so close to the Wisconsin Recall Election, held today.

Think about it: what better way to get Wisconsin conservatives all riled up, and ready to vote for their folks?

From sfgate, natch.

Did Gov Walker Stage Wisconsin State Fair Race Attack? This blogger thinks so.

Last week, reports came out that “500 Black Youth” attacked white visitors to the Wisconsin State Fair. Then came the predicable reactions and all of the resurfacing of the White Supremacists, who crawl out of their holes whenever they think something that smacks of a race war is going down – fools that they are. And then come the calls for the parents – where are they? – in all of this.

But the one question never asked by a gullible public is this one: how did it happen, and did it really go down?

I looked on YouTube expecting to see video, after video of kids filming themselves, or someone filming them, as they went on about the business of allegedly attacking white people at the Wisconsin State Fair. I mean, there were “500″ of them – right? That’s the report, as if someone bothered to count them.

I don’t think there were 500 kids, and further, I think someone paid those kids to do that – perhaps not every kid, but enough to be catalysts for the action.

What caused me to think this was not just what I mentioned above, but two other things: first, that Governor Scott Walker was all set to make a statement on the event, second, that the incident occurred so close to the Wisconsin Recall Election, held today.

Think about it: what better way to get Wisconsin conservatives all riled up, and ready to vote for their folks?

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Well, I trying to justify why the defeat of Randy Hopper is good to someone. It is relevant. If Randy Hopper had acted decently towards his wife and children, he would have won this election.

thuja on August 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM

A good point.

How unfair is it, though, that an episode of marital cheating torpedoes a Republican’s career, but enhances a Democrat’s?

Mary in LA on August 10, 2011 at 1:15 PM

How unfair is it, though, that an episode of marital cheating torpedoes a Republican’s career, but enhances a Democrat’s?

Mary in LA on August 10, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Reread this and decided that wasn’t quite right. Tony “Tiny” Weiner and David “Tiger Blood Suit” Wu both resigned, eventually.

But I still think it’s true that Republicans’ first reaction when one of their pols is accused of cheating is to hang him out to dry (which is what should happen, provided the accusation is true), but Democrats’ first reaction when one of theirs is not just accused of cheating, but proven to have cheated, is to circle the wagons around him (it’s usually a him, though it wouldn’t have to be).

What’s up with that?

Mary in LA on August 10, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Oh, goody. Just wait — someone will be bribed to say that he had been paid to start a riot.

Mary in LA on August 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM

I admit that I look at 25 year old men, …

thuja on August 10, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Honey, just because you’ve already ordered doesn’t mean you can’t look at the menu. :-)

Mary in LA on August 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Only a democrat would want to throw out a governor who brought financial stability and jobs to their state.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on August 10, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Next Tuesday, two more recall elections take place for the state Senate, this time two of the fleebagger seats, thanks to the reaction from the GOP to the union’s efforts to recall Republicans.

Actually, I think it was Wisconsin Republicans who first raised the idea of recalls because of the fleabaggers, but then realized most of them were in safe districts. That’s when the Democrats realized there were vulnerable Republicans and jumped on it with all their union money and activists.

It’s a huge blow, and it certainly helps the GOP chances to take the two Democratic seats because the out of state activists and money will be going home.

Adjoran on August 10, 2011 at 1:35 PM

For the dems, last night was like getting 4th place at the Olympics.

BadgerHawk on August 10, 2011 at 1:40 PM

The next time you hear some union goony talking about how GOP or conservatives want to hurt the “middle class workers”, just politely mention how much the millions of dollars they poured into attempting to elect union sympathizers would have helped the working middle class.

Instead of forcing all those workers to pay those union dues and then wasting the money chasing chickens, the middle class workers could have used those extra funds to help themselves and boost the economy.

I mean Obamas tax break was only $8 dollars a week and hes still bragging about how much that helped American workers…

canditaylor68 on August 10, 2011 at 2:55 PM

How can you judge someone’s morality simply because they have different sexual desires than you? It’s quite possible that this man needs more than one sexual partner. Who are you to declare that immoral?

blink on August 10, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Then don’t get married and have two children. Sheesh, people. I love all this “who are we to judge?” stuff. I see public education has done its work. Then why the hell did anyone judge Anthony Weiner? And, gosh, I suppose Maxine Waters’ husband just needed the cash from that failed financial institution dirty deal. And Congressman Wu? He just wanted to grab that teen’s ass — why judge?

I’ll tell ya why. Because go**ammit I want public officials who represent ME and MY STATE and MY NATION to be held to the highest standards of conduct. Because I don’t want to live in a country where there is no damn difference between a Congressman and the pervy creep who lives with his mother and his girlfriend down the street. And when my elected representatives fail to live up to the highest standards of conduct, I want them to lose their taxpayer funded jobs, and I don’t really care who in the hell they lose to. Elected public servants are the face of a city, a state, and a nation, and I do not want that face to be some over-the-hill, gray-haired, receding-hairline rich fool who blew his family apart because he had the opportunity to bang a 25-year-old, a 25-year-old, I might add, who would have vomited at the thought of this guy touching her if he weren’t, “Ooooh, a state senator, and rich!” Well now she’s got her man. Let’s see how long things last now that he is simply “the disgraced former state Senator” and she’s the bimbo who cost him the election.

That’s why.

Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 3:05 PM

DONATE FOR NEXT WEEK’S WI BATTLE! Links to the Simac and Steitz campaign can me found HERE.

Mutnodjmet on August 10, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Wisconsin votes for the Republican nominee in 2012. That is what I want to see happen.

SC.Charlie on August 10, 2011 at 3:11 PM

More here, and OMG, this screencap is the best!

‘Republicans Holds Four of Six Contested Seats in Wisconsin Recall Elections’.

Donald Douglas on August 10, 2011 at 4:02 PM

Why shouldn’t such people have a right to get married and have children?

blink on August 10, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Really? If you have to ask, I can’t see much point in explaining. Have a nice day.

Rational Thought on August 10, 2011 at 4:46 PM

They have discredited themselves with Wisconsin voters in a way that Walker and the GOP couldn’t possibly have planned, the victim of their own arrogance in attempting to overturn elections for no other reason that protecting their own featherbeds.

Which is why we should be *inviting* them to try to recall Walker. They would lose and if they should lose THAT fight, it would be the nail in their coffin that signifies to the population at large that policies that bankrupt communities for the benefit of only about 8% of the working population just aren’t that popular anymore.

At that point, labor union issues just aren’t going to get a lot of traction with many Democrats and it is going to be hard to get them to polls in order to sacrifice their economy for a gang of thugs.

Unions do not represent working families. They represent political machines.

crosspatch on August 10, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Bob Beckel, Dem. water-carrier on Fox, is one of my favorite “tells” for the latest target of liberal character assassination. He was vicious on Walker, and, until recently, was equally so toward Cantor. The same old song just doesn’t work anymore, thank heavens.
Randy

williars on August 10, 2011 at 4:56 PM

williars on August 10, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Yep, Bob is definitely in on the conference calls. A little too much messaging coordination there and it shows.

slickwillie2001 on August 10, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Brat4life on August 10, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Agreed. I would humbly posit that this was a state/environment in which the liberals thought they had a sure thing. They know not to try it in Ohio because, Kucinich aside, it is a lean-right state. This is the best they could do considering it was not a recall in Cambridge, Boulder, Austin, Berkeley, or San Fran. This really was the best they could do….Bwaaaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Eat it, Kossacks! Win streak, baby.

Huckabye-Romney on August 10, 2011 at 7:04 PM

What’s up with that?

Mary in LA on August 10, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Moral indiscretions are only considered “failures” if committed by Conservatives. With Liberals anything goes, it’s all relative.

infidel4life on August 10, 2011 at 7:21 PM

At that point, labor union issues just aren’t going to get a lot of traction with many Democrats and it is going to be hard to get them to polls in order to sacrifice their economy for a gang of thugs.

Unions do not represent working families. They represent political machines.

crosspatch on August 10, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Which is why the union thugs will resort to the tactics we’re seeing in Greece and London. This temper tantrum isn’t over yet, not by a long shot.

infidel4life on August 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 1:13 PM

what an idiot ? I wish he would tell that to 7 cop that were hurt or how about the woman who has 4 breaks in her eye socket from a punch all for the crime of sitting in her car at a stop light?
How do the left win any elections with brains like this?

Gracelynn on August 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM

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