Defiant Democrats vow to waste more money trying to recall Scott Walker

posted at 9:17 pm on August 10, 2011 by Allahpundit

You’ve got to chase your dreams. Ahab had Moby Dick, Javert had Valjean, and these tools have a guy whose collective bargaining bill is a fiscal success even according to Milwaukee’s favorite newspaper.

Can we get them to flush a bunch of money down the toilet next year that might otherwise go towards reelecting Barack Obama in a crucial swing state? Yes, we can.

“If we can do all of this against entrenched Republicans on their own turf, imagine our success … when all of Wisconsin can have its voice heard on Gov. Walker’s extreme, divisive agenda,” Wisconsin state party chairman Mike Tate wrote in a memo to reporters Wednesday…

Despite the Democratic losses, Madison-based Democratic pollster Nathan Henry calculates that the party achieved a 7 percent swing in its direction…

“They’ve always said that was the prize and they got too much good information and lists and contacts to just abandon it,” said GOP state Senate operative Andrew Welhouse. “The problem for them is resources — where do they get the money? The national unions won’t be playing anywhere near as hard after dropping all that cash.”

And with President Barack Obama at the top of the ballot, an open U.S. Senate race and several anticipated competitive congressional contests, there will be fewer resources, door-knockers and phone-bankers to go around.

A seven-point swing would make things interesting in a state-wide race, but (a) there’s no earthly way Republicans will be outspent two-to-one next time with Walker himself in the firing line, and (b) as Nate Silver notes, last night’s results depended quite a bit on who the incumbent was, not what his party was. Randy Hopper, who’d been weakened by scandal, lost narrowly. Other Republicans like Robert Cowles, whose district voted similarly to Hopper’s two years ago, cruised in a landslide. Walker’s approval rating was below 40 percent last month, but he has four more months of good press about the effects of the CB bill to penetrate. Let’s see where he is in January. Either way, the left will try to recall him if only to save face after losing last night and against Prosser. But whether it’s an earnest effort to win or just a pro forma attempt to hassle will depend on the rest of the year. I’m not worried, and as a famous eeyore, it’s practically my job to be worried.

Here he is last night chatting with the MacIver Institute about the recall results.

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That’s cash that won’t make it to O’Bambi’s stash.

honsy on August 10, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Some people just never learn.

Tony737 on August 10, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Next Tuesday will be more schadenfreudig than last night.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Great, keep blowing your money. You are only helping the economy in cheeseland.

carbon_footprint on August 10, 2011 at 9:21 PM

“If we can do all of this against entrenched Republicans on their own turf, imagine our success … when all of Wisconsin can have its voice heard on Gov. Walker’s extreme, divisive agenda,” Wisconsin state party chairman Mike Tate wrote in a memo to reporters Wednesday…

That should be “extreme, divisive, sexist, racist, and homophobic agenda.” You’re slipping Mike …

PackerBronco on August 10, 2011 at 9:23 PM

“We will try a different valley again next year, and kick zee sheet out of the Viet Minh!”

-French army general staff one day after the fall of Dien Bien Phu

Bishop on August 10, 2011 at 9:23 PM

That’s cash that won’t make it to O’Bambi’s stash.

honsy on August 10, 2011 at 9:19 PM

There is plenty more where that came from, remember the just raised the debt ceiling.

whbates on August 10, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Remember Blanche Lincoln!!!! oh wait….

ted c on August 10, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Ah, land of my birth! Good on ya, Gov’nor! And unions and lib-tards….PLEASE keep spending your money on this type of exercise! More and mone!

Markvike on August 10, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Next Tuesday will be more schadenfreudig than last night.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 9:21 PM

If we knock off Holperin, I predict they won’t go after Walker.

artist on August 10, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Let’s say you are a Wisconsin public sector union worker and you just saw 30 million spent by your unions to pick up two seats, without affecting the balance of power. Let’s say Gov. Scott Walker is responsible for cancelling automatic public employee collection of union dues. Your union comes back to you for more “voluntary” union PAC to recall Walker.

Is that a good use of your money?

BigAlSouth on August 10, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Where is the money coming from?

Who is giving them the money to do this?

How is it possible that they can still have funding for this?

Those are the questions you should ask.

upinak on August 10, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Of course they’re going through with it. They’ve already written the chants. No point wasting a good chant.

Jim Treacher on August 10, 2011 at 9:31 PM

They’ll waste more money and continue to claim it’s not their fault afterward. I think by this rate that that’s the DNC’s playbook: waste as much as possible and blame everyone else.

Lourdes on August 10, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Where is the money coming from?

Who is giving them the money to do this?

How is it possible that they can still have funding for this?

Those are the questions you should ask.

upinak on August 10, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Well Soros reportedly made 10 billion during the S & P downgrade.

carbon_footprint on August 10, 2011 at 9:33 PM

So Scott Brown saved 30 million for the state and the unions are willing to spend gobs more the bankrupt it.
Smart Power.

Electrongod on August 10, 2011 at 9:35 PM

who’s going to write the doctor’s notes this time?

plans.

ted c on August 10, 2011 at 9:36 PM

Scott Walker that is.

I should be banned for that mistake.

Electrongod on August 10, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Despite the Democratic losses, Madison-based Democratic pollster Nathan Henry calculates that the party achieved a 7 percent swing in its direction…

Let’s see the math on that.

MadisonConservative on August 10, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Good on them…

OmahaConservative on August 10, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Someone refresh my memory:

Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result?

Thought so.

Jack Deth on August 10, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Scott Walker that is.

I should be banned for that mistake.

Electrongod on August 10, 2011 at 9:37 PM

We all have brain farts…

OmahaConservative on August 10, 2011 at 9:39 PM

If they lose next Tuesday will they still go after Gov. Walker?

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2011 at 9:40 PM

So how’s he gonna collect all those union dues now that the state won’t?

I can see a lot of union people telling their shop stewards “My dues check is in the mail.”

GarandFan on August 10, 2011 at 9:41 PM

If they lose next Tuesday will they still go after Gov. Walker?

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2011 at 9:40 PM

I think so. They spread their wealth around in Wisconsin on ads and stuff.
It’s good for everyone.

Electrongod on August 10, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Rope-a-dope.

Let them wear spend themselves out, then we come out swingin’.

iurockhead on August 10, 2011 at 9:42 PM

I suspect word will come that Obama’s re-election will take more efforts. Can’t go wasting time in Wisconsin, when the one is in trouble. He’ll need Wisconsin, and he won’t want to have to campaign with a candidate for Governor, won’t look good elsewhere.

amazingmets on August 10, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Flush that money!

Ward Cleaver on August 10, 2011 at 9:43 PM

well, let’s see, Randy Hopper was an adulterer who left his wife and moved out of the district.

That’s a heck of scandal. If you have trash running in the R race they just might lose (unlike the Dims). Sounds like I wouldn’t vote for him

r keller on August 10, 2011 at 9:44 PM

The “One Way Democracy”. I will only accept decisions I agree with!

gullxn on August 10, 2011 at 9:44 PM

At this point, WI Democrats and PEUs look as ridiculous as Ralphie’s dad as he’s chewing out his wife in A Christmas Story before slinking away with the sad remains of his “major award.”

By the way, Scott Walker just told them that they’re out of glue!

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2011 at 9:47 PM

That’s cash that won’t make it to O’Bambi’s stash.

honsy on August 10, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Walker and the Wisconson Republicans are really taking heat for the team. I am surprised how tough they are hanging up there. I suppose Conservatives like MadCon up there might not be as rare as one would think.

All the money and attention that these guys, get keep it out of other races.

hawkdriver on August 10, 2011 at 9:49 PM

The Dums have blown their Walker mid-term bounce at the wrong time. It may cost Kickass the Dairy State.

Greek Fire on August 10, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Wouldn’t all that money have been better spent by the unions helping out their poor oppressed members who just lost their precious collective bargaining rights?

No place for common sense where progressives are concerned.

infidel4life on August 10, 2011 at 9:50 PM

At this point it is just a continuation of their hate-filled obsession with him.

WisCon on August 10, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Democracy Now!

(Unless liberals don’t like the results of the previous election.)

locomotivebreath1901 on August 10, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Good luck!!!

In December when everyone gets their tax bill and it frozen to last year rate or lower they are going go around and collect signatures. It is also not easy. They can’t start until January and I think they need about 500,000 signatures and they must collect in 60 days.

Gracelynn on August 10, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Madison, you wer missed last night.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Geez, not this again. Can you let me recover a little?

—The Chicken

Sekhmet on August 10, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Where is the money coming from?

Who is giving them the money to do this?

How is it possible that they can still have funding for this?

Those are the questions you should ask.

upinak on August 10, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Here in Ohio, the unions took EXTRA money from their members on top of their dues to fund the campaign to fight our new CB bill, which is similar to WI. Its on the November ballot.

KeepOhioRed on August 10, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Madison, you wer missed last night.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Didn’t he just get back from his honeymoon?

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Flush that money!

Ward Cleaver on August 10, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Seems to me that Democrat political types are well known for skipping out on their bills. Including the two Democrats in 2008

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 9:59 PM

AHA! This is what democracy looks like!

honsy on August 10, 2011 at 10:00 PM

I also think Wisconsin is going to be sick and tired of these idiot dems recalling everyone because they didn’t get power. We also need to restrict when you can do a recall in this state instead of the Dems acting like spoiled babies when they lose power.
People are fed up with the cost of this crap.

Gracelynn on August 10, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Libs always do the same old same old and expect different results.

Kissmygrits on August 10, 2011 at 10:08 PM

Note to the next POTUS in 2012, start taxing unions. Apparently these greedy unions have made too much money and it won’t hurt them to give up their millions to help America pay it’s debt liabilities.

BruthaMan on August 10, 2011 at 10:12 PM

$30 million, eh? The unions should sponsor this kind of recall vote in all 50 states. It would be a $1.5 billion stimulus compliments of the unions.

A balanced approach.

SlaveDog on August 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM

I’m not worried, and as a famous eeyore, it’s practically my job to be worried.

Get over yourself.

disa on August 10, 2011 at 10:22 PM

At this point, WI Democrats and PEUs look as ridiculous as Ralphie’s dad as he’s chewing out his wife in A Christmas Story before slinking away with the sad remains of his “major award.”

By the way, Scott Walker just told them that they’re out of glue!

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2011 at 9:47 PM

That’s my favorite Christmas movie, now I can’t stop laughing, thinking of that scene.

mbs on August 10, 2011 at 10:30 PM

I actually hope they keep up this defiant rhetoric. I can think of no better way to fire up voters than to tell them how stupid they were for electing certain people and vowing to give them another chance to get it right.

I wonder if they’ll feel the same way if both of the Democrats, in recall elections next week, are sent packing? That is one great way for Wisconsin to tell these Democrats enough is enough.

I certainly hope this doesn’t become the new norm in electoral politics. You win an election, put forth your agenda, then the losing party does recall elections. Of course there aren’t many states that have the same policy as Wisconsin. I doubt Wisconsin would have it either if they’d envisioned it being misused in such a way as this. The recall is designed for get someone out who has actually done something wrong, not passed legislation.

Vote Republican and only be called a racist one more time.

bflat879 on August 10, 2011 at 10:46 PM

If people are correct in saying that union contributions are down some 30% since the state stopped collecting union dues, then the unions are going to be in less of a position to recall Walker with every passing month. A Walker recall would be competing with the general election for financing and basically the only reason for the existence of public employee unions is to kick tax money back to Democrat campaigns.

The unions are going to be under pressure to donate to candidates to both national and local office in next year’s elections. Adding a Walker recall on top of that is going to spreading that cash too thin. Unlike the recent battles, it will be harder for them to draw national money into the race because that money is going to already have commitments to their own elections. Having already lost twice and possibly three times after next week’s Democrat recalls, who from out of state is going to want to send them money when they are going to need that money in their own state for their own elections?

Recalling Walker will be a “bridge too far” for the unions and I invite them to do it as it will, I believe, result in a good outcome for the GOP that will reverberate in Wisconsin politics for years.

It will basically drive a stake into the heart of the notion that the unions are capable of delivering Democrat candidates to office and once that happens, the unions will find their ability to curry favor with Democrat politicians will be greatly diminished.

crosspatch on August 10, 2011 at 10:51 PM

crosspatch on August 10, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Yes, and when the teacher unions, and the SEIU and the others come whining to the federal government about the sorry state of their pension funding, let’s remember how they have burned billions over the last couple of decades chasing their pet political causes.

slickwillie2001 on August 10, 2011 at 10:55 PM

I really don’t see them able to mount a real effort to recall Walker until late 2013 and by that time they may be in dire financial straits from the loss of the automatic garnishment of wages from employees who are not union members but are supposed to pay dues anyway. Those are the folks that the unions are having the most trouble billing for dues.

With every passing month those unions bleed a little.

crosspatch on August 10, 2011 at 11:01 PM

unions please, spend more of your members dues while their pensions are entering bankruptcy.

Unions need a $40 million dollar plunger to go along with the $30 million roll of toilet paper they got with the recall.

Niteowl45 on August 10, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Really??? That’s so exciting.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2011 at 11:40 PM

Wisconsin union members, you didn’t think you were contributing to a strike fund or anything, did you? Keep on flushing it, dumbasses.

Ronnie on August 11, 2011 at 12:10 AM

WI Repubs: need you to early vote and get out to vote next TUESDAY!! Bring a friend!!

Khun Joe on August 11, 2011 at 12:28 AM

Walker ought to put together a speech loaded with liberal buzzwords. Things like “sustainable government” and how the state balancing the budget and living within its means is “social justice”. Maybe throw in a few more such as speaking truth to power is hard and the Democrats don’t like it. How he shows “solidarity” with the taxpayers of the state and how he is building “resistance” against the “hate” spewed by the union machine. How Wisconsin is for everyone and can use some intellectual “diversity” in approaches to problems and that the Democrats should show “tolerance” to a constituency that is tired of being “exploited” by a political alliance of Democrats and public service unions.

Basically take all of their catch phrases and buzzwords and claim ownership if them and throw them right back at them. It will confuse the hell out of those “activists” in Madison. They will have no vocabulary to counter with. Walker would have taken ownership of it all. Maybe even throw in how they are fighting the imperialist aims of the unions to subvert democracies across the globe. How he “inherited” a horrible state economy from the previous governor and turned things around, how they must “re-invent” the economic “ecosystem” of Wisconsin in a more sustainable fashion because the Democrat model is to simply take and take and take until they have taken all there is. The economy needs to be nurtured in an “organic” fashion, etc.

Their heads would absolutely explode. Just take their rhetorical devices away from them.

crosspatch on August 11, 2011 at 2:38 AM

I’m not worried, and as a famous eeyore C3P-0, it’s practically my job to be worried.

leftnomore on August 11, 2011 at 3:01 AM

and these tools have a guy whose collective bargaining bill is a fiscal success even according to Milwaukee’s favorite newspaper.

I expect better of Allah. When you cut spending, of course you’re going to have more on hand. The real problem was the cuts being done for corporate tax breaks (the same corporations that funded Walker, a fact which went unmentioned and unnoticed by the Hot Air All-Stars). When WI students start falling even further behind in school and more and more of the middle class dissolves from the state, we will see the true cost of such foolish en-devour.

Rainsford on August 11, 2011 at 3:42 AM

Then there are the 500,000 signatures they have to get just to be on the ballot…

Friendly21 on August 11, 2011 at 5:44 AM

I expect better of Allah. When you cut spending, of course you’re going to have more on hand. The real problem was the cuts being done for corporate tax breaks (the same corporations that funded Walker, a fact which went unmentioned and unnoticed by the Hot Air All-Stars). When WI students start falling even further behind in school and more and more of the middle class dissolves from the state, we will see the true cost of such foolish en-devour.

Rainsford on August 11, 2011 at 3:42 AM

Now that’s funny. So, unions not being able to extort money from it’s members, and union workers having to actually contribute to their own retirement like people in the real world do is going to result in dumber kids. How about we fire the deadbeat teachers who can’t teach and replace them with ones who can. Typical leftwing union b.s. The world will end if the unions don’t get their way.

chewmeister on August 11, 2011 at 7:14 AM

I expect better of Allah. When you cut spending, of course you’re going to have more on hand. The real problem was the cuts being done for corporate tax breaks (the same corporations that funded Walker, a fact which went unmentioned and unnoticed by the Hot Air All-Stars). When WI students start falling even further behind in school and more and more of the middle class dissolves from the state, we will see the true cost of such foolish en-devour.

What a load of hooey.

I’m sure you were a hair’s breadth away from mentioning the Koch brothers, too, weren’t you? Corporations in this state have — under the last too long term of Jim Doyle — been absolutely hammered by taxes and regulations. To the point where lots of them just left the state. With them went jobs. Which has a far greater impact on the middle class than expecting union members to pay for health insurance and their (guaranteed) pensions.

As for education, the Kaukauna School District saw something like a $1.9 million swing from $400,000 in the red to $1.5 million in the black just by the passage of this collective bargaining law. They’re hiring MORE teachers, having SMALLER CLASSES, and putting MORE MONEY into the classroom instead of benefits for union members. They had a kindergarten teaching position open and got something like 300-400 applications for it.

Get back to us in 6 months when the national economy — led by Democrats and leftists — is still in the toilet and Wisconsin’s (led by sensible conservative Republicans) is recovering. We win.

englishqueen01 on August 11, 2011 at 7:32 AM

Do what I did. Send an email to Wisconsin state Democratic party chairman Mike Tate and tell that moron that if they stopped wasting money on a lost cause like trying to oust Scott Walker and concentrated it instead towards things like maybe creating some jobs up there in Cheeseheadland, the Democrats would stop looking less and less like the certified jackasses they have now portrayed themselves to be in that state.

Tell Tate this is what Democracy is SUPPOSED to look like, not what the Democrats have twisted it up there in Bratwurst Central to what they think it should be, which in this case is a royal screwed-up mess.

pilamaye on August 11, 2011 at 8:15 AM

What struck me as the most bizarre aspect of these recall elections is that Democrats seem to be having a total disconnect as to the value of their readiness to point out that they don’t really BELIEVE in Democracy.

It’s mindboggling. This whole thing started because DEMOCRATS RAN AWAY FROM A VOTE. And even now, they’re not willing to live with the results of elections in Wisconsin. That’ DEMOCRATS… who don’t believe in the voting process.

Amazingly tone deaf.

Murf76 on August 11, 2011 at 9:02 AM

“Do what I did. Send an email to Wisconsin state Democratic party chairman Mike Tate and tell that moron that if they stopped wasting money on a lost cause…”

pilamaye on August 11, 2011 at 8:15 AM

If anything, I’ll write a letter calling them cowards for not going after the nazi, homophobic Rethuglicans…where are their ‘principals’

/sarc

SwabJockey on August 11, 2011 at 10:01 AM

Here’s hoping the Wisc. voters have two handfuls of salt to rub in the open wounds next week with the dem recall votes. You gotta believe the dem voters will be a little discouraged and stay home.

Spider79 on August 11, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Whoever heard of cheese from California.

Lanceman on August 11, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Would love to see Walker disband the WEAT and then give an across the board tax break to every Wisconsinite. This will give him and the GOP solid footing for the next election.
He could say that they went from a $3B deficit to a balanced budget that allows people to keep their hard-earned money.

djaymick on August 11, 2011 at 1:31 PM

“If we can do all of this against entrenched Republicans on their own turf, imagine our success

Correct me if I’m wrong, but “all of that” is failing to get a majority of the State Senate in a State that has voted for Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Clinton, And Dukakis in the past 6 Presidential elections…

That counts as “on their own turf” now? Well they went Reagan before that, as did every Electoral vote except Minnesota and D.C. Everywhere else is “Republican turf”?

Man I hope he’s right, that’s going to make for an impressive election year… liberals have one state, we have 49?

I’ve never wished so hard that the Wisconsin DNC chairman was accurate about something… however I have about the same expectation of his accuracy that i have every time he speaks.

So, he’s almost certainly wrong… again. But it was fun to dream just for a moment.

gekkobear on August 11, 2011 at 5:06 PM