Open thread: Total recall; Update: Al Sharpton tries to cope; Update: GOP wins two three four, Dems win one two; Update: GOP holds senate

posted at 8:42 pm on August 9, 2011 by Allahpundit

It’s not quite literally total, but with six senate seats on the menu tonight, it’s closer than any U.S. state’s ever gotten. And needless to say, if the Democrats clean up, they’re going to come hard after Scott Walker next winter once he passes his first year in office and is finally recall-able. His approval rating as of last month: Er, 37 percent.

Who wants it more? Hmmm:

The first is that, as with special elections, these recall elections have such unusual turnout and have received such inordinate attention from national third-party groups trying to influence the races and send a message. In fact, the recalls have essentially been special elections on steroids, with spending reaching nearly $30 million.

As of a couple weeks ago, about two-thirds of that has gone to benefit Democrats, and Republicans acknowledge that they were essentially caught flat-footed by the whole thing. And because of that, they’ve been fighting from behind in recent weeks.

The MacIver Institute produced this mind-boggling money matrix to show how much dough unions and their fellow travelers are throwing around. It’s not just money, either:

This past weekend, 8,234 people volunteered for the state Democratic Party to support the Democratic challengers in Tuesday’s recalls. Volunteers made contact with nearly 785,000 voters last weekend alone, according to the Dems’ estimates. All told, the party says total voter contacts have surpassed 2 million. We Are Wisconsin, the coalition of labor unions that’s been a powerful force in the recalls, said it knocked on nearly 200,000 doors over the weekend—40 doors a minute statewide—and deployed hundreds of volunteers. “To have mobilized so many ordinary citizens, many of whom have never been involved in politics, to stand up and take their government back from Scott Walker and his enablers in attacking Wisconsin’s working families is nothing short of astounding,” says Kelly Steele, a We Are Wisconsin spokesman.

It’s not just payback for the collective bargaining law, either. Per Robert Costa of NRO, they’re hoping to send a message — or rather, several messages:

Leftist special-interest groups see more than a state senate in play: If they can diminish Walker, other conservative governors will hesitate to reform state labor laws. Wisconsin Democrats also need a big win to get them motivated after 2010, when Walker won and Republican Ron Johnson, a first-time candidate, snagged a U.S. Senate seat. That was a shock to the Left, especially after President Obama won Wisconsin by 14 points in 2008. In 2012, Obama will almost undoubtedly need to win here again…

U.S. congressman Paul Ryan’s Medicare reforms have been a major issue in numerous races, even though it is Walker’s budget-repair bill, which curbed collective bargaining for public employees, that is seen by most national observers as the key factor in the recalls. Democrats, coming off a special-election House win in New York, see Ryan’s congressional GOP budget as a potent political issue and have been relentless in tying the state Republican lawmakers to the House GOP budget, even though the senators have no say on federal programs. Senator Darling has seen one of her quotes — calling Ryan a “hero” — become a sticking point, much to her chagrin. Over a recent breakfast, she complained that her campaign against Pasch has become about “fear” and “scaring seniors.” And “seniors vote,” she added.

Darling and other Republicans will be watching returns closely to see if their Ryan ties affected the results.

In other words, whoever wins tonight will be telling you tomorrow that this was very much a national election. The polls close at 9 p.m. ET; here’s the AP’s electoral returns page for all your feverish updating needs. Nate Silver has a useful chart if you’re looking to handicap the races. Democrats need three wins tonight to take back the senate. Dan Kapanke is a goner, it seems, and Randy Hopper has been weakened by “controversies,” so Alberta Darling’s race against Democrat Sandy Pasch might be decisive. Even if the worst occurs and I have to whip out the melting-chocolate-bunny video of despair, note per Silver’s chart that Democrat Jim Holperin is extremely vulnerable in his own district and he’s up for recall next week (as is another Democrat). If Democrats pull it off tonight, Republican motivation to bounce Holperin and retake the senate will be sky high next Tuesday.

Updates coming. Gird those loins.

Update: This editorial appeared less than two hours ago on the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel’s website. They held it for … the day after the election:

So it turns out that the sky isn’t going to fall on all local governments in Wisconsin. The numbers now starting to come in show that Gov. Scott Walker’s “tools” for local governments apparently will help at least some of them deal with cuts in state aid imposed by the state budget.

That’s contrary to the expectation and the rhetoric of critics in the spring, and it’s to Walker’s credit. It bears out the governor’s assessment of his budget-repair bill, although we still maintain he could have reached his goals without dealing a body blow to public employee unions…

But the news is good for many. The latest example is Milwaukee, where the most recent estimates show the city with a net gain of at least $11 million for its 2012 budget. That will take a slice out of the city’s structural deficit, which is created by costs rising faster than revenue, and will reduce cuts that Mayor Tom Barrett and the Common Council must impose.

Update: Via Larry O’Connor at Breitbart TV, an instant comedy classic.

Update: None of the four most competitive districts have more than 30 percent reporting yet, but for what it’s worth, the GOP leads in three and Kapanke, who’s supposed to be a sure loser, is tied with his opponent with 22 percent in.

Update: The races in District 2 and 10 are all but over. With more than 50 percent reporting in each, the Republican incumbents are up by double digits. And an auspicious footnote from John McCormack: David Prosser lost District 10 with 49 percent of the vote in the supreme court election a few months ago. Sheila Harsdorf, the Republican, has 58 percent as I write this.

Update: Try the county website for up-to-the-minute returns in Randy Hopper’s race. As noted earlier, he’s a very weak incumbent (and a Walker ally); Democrats are counting on that seat, but with 29 percent in, he’s up by several thousand votes. It’ll be a huge upset if he pulls that out.

Update: Returns from Milwaukee came in at 10:15 ET and flipped the crucial Darling/Pasch race. The Democrat leads there now with 18 percent in.

Update: With 72 percent in, GOP incumbent Luther Olsen is holding on with a 10-point lead. Kapanke is fading as I write this, though, so control of the senate will come down to the Darling and Hopper races. As expected.

Update: Districts 2 and 10 have been called for the GOP. Olsen is still up by eight with 78 percent reporting. If he holds on, Democrats need to sweep the other three.

Update: Olsen did it. The race is called. All eyes on Darling and Hopper now. Ironically, Hopper was supposed to be a relatively win for Democrats and Darling was supposed to be a battle. As of 10:40 ET, Hopper’s in a dead heat and Darling’s down by 12.

Update: Via Politico reporter Dave Catanese, this would be crushing to the left if it proves true, especially with the Jim Holperin anything but a lock in his own recall election next week:

Dem source: Dems will get close but not close enough in #SD14 for @FredClarkWI. GOP source says Rs will hold all but Kapanke.

Update: With 79 percent in, Randy Hopper’s back in front by two points. Epic.

Update: 87 percent in now, and Hopper trails — by 137 votes. Good lord.

Update: At a little after 11 p.m. ET, the Democrats notch their first win. As expected, Kapanke has been recalled.

Update: With 52 of 82 precincts in, Darling has pulled to within two points and a thousand points of Pasch. That’s great news, because Hopper’s luck might be running out.

Update: Things look grim for Hopper, who’s down now by more than 1,000 votes with 97 percent of precincts reporting. As expected, everything will come down to Darling and Pasch.

Update: Endgame for Hopper: The AP calls the race for Democrat Jessica King. Darling and Pasch will decide control of the senate, at least for the next week. Pasch leads by four points with 67 percent in, but word from political junkies on Twitter is that there are still Republican counties out for Darling.

Update: A nice data point from Nate Silver. Based on election returns, this can be read as more of a rebuke to the left as to the right:

In total, GOP leads 52-48 among all votes counted so far tonight in Wisconsin. Walker won those districts 56-43, Obama won them 53-46.

Update: Via McCormack, too good to check: “GOP source: with 98 percent in, it’s Darling 30,868 to 28,170″.

Update: We’re waiting for new totals from the AP but political reporters are claiming Darling’s mopping up in Waukesha and Ozaukee counties, staking her to a 3,100 vote lead. But don’t shut off the computer just yet — there are still a few precincts in heavily Democratic Milwaukee to come.

Update: Spin — allegedly — from AP reporter Scott Bauer, who apparently deleted this tweet after lefty Greg Sargent (and DNC spokesman Brad Woodhouse) preserved it:

huge win tonight for Dems. 2 seats Dems couldn’t win when Barack mopped up. In face of GOP power–this is huge

McCormack explains how stupid this is and politely declines to mention the Democrats’ huge money advantage in the race. They outspent Republicans two to one and, if Darling holds on, they’ll have lost two to one on tonight’s seats — with two of their own still to defend next week.

Bauer is now denying that he sent the tweet at all. It is possible for someone to fake a retweet; curious to see where Sargent got it from. Is someone on the left so desperate to put a happy face on tonight’s outcome that they faked a tweet from a reporter?

Update: Looks like the AP reporter didn’t tweet it after all. Duly noted.

Update: At 12:30 ET, News 3 in Wisconsin calls the race for Darling. The GOP retains control of the senate, 17/16, with two shots to increase that advantage next week. After months of agitation over the collective bargaining law, the supreme court election, and now the recalls, they haven’t regained control of anything. Now they have to go for the big prize to try to redeem themselves.

Update: Here’s what happened with the AP reporter’s phantom tweet, incidentally.

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Dire Straits on August 10, 2011 at 1:10 AM

A thousand comments, eh? I feel like I’m a bit late to the party.

John the Libertarian on August 10, 2011 at 1:16 AM

Marcus on August 10, 2011 at 1:14 AM

LOL. So basically they just aren’t going to report at all on the final seat being taken by the republican. HILARIOUS. Also, they might want to look into a little badge on screen that says “recorded earlier”. Also, what crappy news service breaks away from live election coverage suddenly and reruns earlier recordings? Amateur night.

thphilli on August 10, 2011 at 1:16 AM

I live in Chicago.
It is so nice to know that there are sane pople PEOPLE only 50 miles away.

xrayiiis on August 10, 2011 at 1:09 AM

xrayiiis on August 10, 2011 at 1:12 AM

In Lubbock there are folks from Naperville, Tinley Park, Chicago Heights(that’s us)…and the UPS guy is from Lake Villa-but since he’s a die-hard Sux fan…we don’t talk about him. LoL
Seriously-MOVE. TO. TEXAS.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:16 AM

Pasch went home for the night, leaving the party with her supporters in Brown Deer without further discussing the evening’s results, according to Dave Kreisman, a member of her campaign staff. “We’re waiting to see what comes out of Waukesha tomorrow, to see if there are further irregularities.”

He said the campaign attorneys would be looking into the returns from Waukesha County on Wednesday.

equanimous on August 10, 2011 at 1:17 AM

After this defeat the sane dems have to be thinking seriously that Obama has to go. If the dems go into 2012 with Obama has their standard bearer they may cease to be a national party.

this is freaking WI it has been blue since time began.

the dems are so screwed.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:17 AM

Thanks HA for doing all the worrying for me tonight and for keeping my spirits up.

A new morning has dawned in Wisconsin!

journeyintothewhirlwind on August 10, 2011 at 1:14 AM

1,0%.

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:17 AM

Yeah, looks like AP shut down as well. They haven’t updated SD-8 for over an hour:

AH_C on August 10, 2011 at 1:16 AM

If I remember correctly….
They were quick to call the election for Klopp with her 200 vote lead…but waited forever to call it for Prosser when he had a 7000 vote lead.

Baxter Greene on August 10, 2011 at 1:17 AM

God, the left is stupid.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 1:13 AM

And schadenfreude is a dish best served cold.

John the Libertarian on August 10, 2011 at 1:17 AM

Wisconsinites have spoken truth to power tonight.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:18 AM

Mission Accomplished!!!!

Baxter Greene on August 10, 2011 at 1:16 AM

Heh. The only thing they did was reveal their own impotence.

Now that WI union workers have a choice about paying dues I wonder if they’ll continue to send good money after bad.

29Victor on August 10, 2011 at 1:18 AM

I hope you’re being sarcastic. That editorial hit the wire about two hours before the polls closed and goes in tomorrow’s paper.

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 1:11 AM

No, actually I wasn’t. I saw it this morning in the online version. It was linked from the Yahoo start page. I didn’t know it wasn’t in hardcopy yet. Well, maybe props to Yahoo then for jumping the gun.

Sterling Holobyte on August 10, 2011 at 1:18 AM

Thanks HA for doing all the worrying for me tonight and for keeping my spirits up.

A new morning has dawned in Wisconsin!

journeyintothewhirlwind on August 10, 2011 at 1:14 AM

1,0%.

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:17 AM

1,000% – I was very nervous but now? DAMN!!!!!

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:19 AM

A thousand comments, eh? I feel like I’m a bit late to the party.

John the Libertarian on August 10, 2011 at 1:16 AM

I hear you..It has been exciting..:)

PS..We have your back and will always leave the lights on for our West Coast late nighters!..:):)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2011 at 1:19 AM

Thank God.

Hening on August 10, 2011 at 1:20 AM

I almost want to finish watching this MSNBC nonsense to see the dejected look on all the liberals faces.

thphilli on August 10, 2011 at 1:20 AM

Well, glad it wasn’t worse.

And now, time to go nuclear on these a$$hats, everywhere, in every election, across the country. GOP have to stop being ‘gentlemen’, and operate with the understanding that Democrats *are* the enemy, and must be utterly/politically destroyed, to the point they simply give up and the thought of running for election ever again makes them quiver in fear and desolation.

Midas on August 10, 2011 at 1:20 AM

this is freaking WI it has been blue since time began.

the dems are so screwed.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:17 AM

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:20 AM

More Darling Music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsjszrf8xA

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 1:21 AM

KingGold on August 10, 2011 at 1:11 AM

Um- I have been going to JS online quite frequently lately and I swear that article was up online on Monday (and I said a prayer of thanks about it)

journeyintothewhirlwind on August 10, 2011 at 1:21 AM

Then again…. maybe they’re going to find some ballot boxes in trunks tonight…

Midas on August 10, 2011 at 1:22 AM

In Lubbock there are folks from Naperville, Tinley Park, Chicago Heights(that’s us)…and the UPS guy is from Lake Villa-but since he’s a die-hard Sux fan…we don’t talk about him. LoL
Seriously-MOVE. TO. TEXAS.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:16 AM

Small world. Just down the road from you, in San Angelo. Lived in Amarillo area most of my life, until last year.

BruthaMan on August 10, 2011 at 1:22 AM

Break out the humpbot – the Associated Press has called it for Darling and multiple sources at the Darling camp are saying that Pasch has conceeded.

Steve Eggleston on August 10, 2011 at 1:22 AM

BREAKING NEWS FROM MSNBC:

DARLING WINS!

*Not kidding*

SouthernGent on August 10, 2011 at 1:22 AM

Now that WI union workers have a choice about paying dues I wonder if they’ll continue to send good money after bad.

29Victor on August 10, 2011 at 1:18 AM

I saw a comment on here a few days ago that stated their dues were around 40% off since this law of “choice” went into effect.

..I always thought that liberals were “pro-choice”….guess that only counts when you are killing babies.

Baxter Greene on August 10, 2011 at 1:24 AM

Now we have a debate for the GOP on Fox News Thursday..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2011 at 1:24 AM

So, the unions blow $30 mil. on a 2 for 6 night at the plate and two of their boys yet to bat next week, which, if the GOP takes both, will then make the recall election tonight utterly meaningless as the WI State Senate returns to status quo ante bellum.

The only thing better than handing the Dems a defeat?

Handing the Dems and expensive defeat.

Oh, up-thread, I noticed people mentioned Sergeant Shultz blabbing on and on about voter fraud in 2012.

He’s not psychic, he’s just telling the world (or maybe just MSNBC’s 5 viewers) what the Dem’s strategy for 2012 is.

SuperCool on August 10, 2011 at 1:24 AM

Now that WI union workers have a choice about paying dues I wonder if they’ll continue to send good money after bad.

29Victor on August 10, 2011 at 1:18 AM

Apparently that is only effective for new contracts going forward. The unions re upped the contracts for 2-3 years prior to this being passed. If that was not the case I can guarantee that a great majority would stop paying their union dues.

cubbieblue25 on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Honest question. (Admittedly I haven’t been following this closely).

1. We had 6 WI GOP reps up for recall and retained 4 but that is a victory?
(I realize we retained Senate control)

2. Why is the left (i.e. degenerate Markos et al) calling this a “win” if, as I read the comments here, the good guys (GOP) are happy?

Can someone help me out here?

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Then again…. maybe they’re going to find some ballot boxes in trunks tonight…

Midas on August 10, 2011 at 1:22 AM

That is so 2008. And 2006. And 2004. And 2002. And 2000. And 1998. And 1996…………………………

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Patchy concedes. It’s over.

andy85719 on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Small world. Just down the road from you, in San Angelo. Lived in Amarillo area most of my life, until last year.

BruthaMan on August 10, 2011 at 1:22 AM

I joke that while it’s too hot and the natives speak w/funny accents(ducks), the freedom smells wonderful!

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

LOL, finally MSNBC breaks in and calls it. LOVING it.

thphilli on August 10, 2011 at 1:26 AM

Er, that’s “conceded”, and Darling confirmed it on WITI-TV.

Steve Eggleston on August 10, 2011 at 1:26 AM

AP declared darling the winner. MSNBC just reported.

cubbieblue25 on August 10, 2011 at 1:26 AM

Patchy concedes. It’s over.

andy85719 on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Wonderful.
Now where the Hades is that ‘Bot!
*Hint. Hint*

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:26 AM

FAIL!!!

cubbieblue25 on August 10, 2011 at 1:27 AM

Er, that’s “conceded”, and Darling confirmed it on WITI-TV.

Steve Eggleston on August 10, 2011 at 1:26 AM

That is good news!..Very good news..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2011 at 1:27 AM

BREAKING NEWS FROM MSNBC:

DARLING WINS!

*Not kidding*

SouthernGent on August 10, 2011 at 1:22 AM

Go check out Huffington Post. Sometimes Arianna I think just likes to twist the knife for reaction. (A GIANT SMILING SCOTT WALKER!)

2. Why is the left (i.e. degenerate Markos et al) calling this a “win”

Markos calls ANYTHING a “win”. The night of Leibermann/Lamont, that he was so invested in and they lost, his followers told him to STFU.

Marcus on August 10, 2011 at 1:27 AM

Can someone help me out here?

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Well, for one thing–

You have to look at this chart:

http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/08/liberal-recall-money-matrix/

National and state liberal groups, led primarily by public employee labor unions, have pumped well in excess of $14,000,000 into the Wisconsin state senate recall elections.

MacIver News’ staff complied this graphic of this unprecedented spending using official reports on file with the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board (Totals are accurate as of 8/8/11).

INC on August 10, 2011 at 1:29 AM

You guys should all be watching MSNBC. Its surreal. They are reporting as if they are just getting results from an hour ago. They refuse to admit defeat.

thphilli on August 10, 2011 at 1:05 AM

They all retired to the Green Room and produced numerous hip flasks…vodka I believe.

The Milwaukee Journal will be regretting they didn’t hold that editorial about Walker’s beneficial policies until after next week’s Dem recall votes!

INC on August 10, 2011 at 12:55 AM

Yeah, but then there’s stuff like this:

Walker celebrated the Wisconsin jobs numbers on July 21, 2011, with this tweet: “In June, there were 18,000 net new jobs in America. In WI, there were 9,500 net new jobs! most since 9/2003.”

Walker made a similar comparison in an interview: “To have 9,500 net new jobs in the state at a time when the country saw just 18,000 net new jobs all across the country is incredibly good news, and it’s driven by the rebirth of tourism in the state.”

Many others echoed the basic message of Walker’s tweet, often adding their own spin. And that’s where numbers — or at least the use of them — started to go bad.

The state Republican Party issued a news release with this statement: “Today, we learned that over 50 percent of U.S. job growth in June came from our state.”

Wisconsin wasn’t at the top.

That claim belonged to Texas, with an increase of 32,000 jobs. Numerous other states showed larger job gains than Wisconsin. For instance, California was up 28,800, and our neighbor Minnesota topped Wisconsin with an increase of 13,200 jobs.

Obviously, those add up to more than 18,000 jobs added in the country in June. Indeed, if you were to tally all the state reports — accounting for those with increases and decreases — you’d wind up with a net monthly increase of 64,900 jobs — not the originally discussed 18,000. And half of them would have been created in Texas.

So, could Texas Gov. Rick Perry accurately claim his state accounted for twice the total of all the jobs created in the nation? That’s illogical at best.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/jul/28/republican-party-wisconsin/wisconsin-republican-party-says-more-than-half-nat/

Speaking of Perry:

And Texas has added more than one in five of the public-sector jobs nationwide, including those at the local, state and federal levels.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903999904576470232177476242.html

Lots of spin/BS from both sides as usual, but the GOP better watch out with this stuff down the line. They will not be able to obfuscate indefinitely, and that could come back to haunt them at the polls. They should be honest and let the Dems do the lying.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 10, 2011 at 1:29 AM

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

There’s one more act to be played next week, when two Democrats are up for recall. I expect one of them to lose, and at this point I have no feel for the other race.

While Dan Kapanke is a good person, the district he represents/represented is pretty much a Democrat district. Randy Hopper, the other loser, had serious personal issues that, combined with the presence of several prisons in his district, overrode the usual R tilt.

Steve Eggleston on August 10, 2011 at 1:29 AM

2. Why is the left (i.e. degenerate Markos et al) calling this a “win” if, as I read the comments here, the good guys (GOP) are happy?

Can someone help me out here?

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

The same reason they call the 2010 elections a “win”….the stimulus a “success”…..claim Obama is the greatest “President in our History”….and blame America getting “downgraded” on 25 “Tea Party” House seats when they have controlled Congress since 2006…..

………….it’s all about the narrative.

Alinsky rules apply.

Baxter Greene on August 10, 2011 at 1:30 AM

Can someone help me out here?

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Because there is a squish RINO who voted against the “union bill” this year. His last name is Schultz…they were pretty much begging him to cross-over on MSNBC, so this is why the 2 recalls next week are important. Any win would be more cushion, but 2 wins would be epic.

SouthernGent on August 10, 2011 at 1:30 AM

Can someone help me out here?

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

AP has more up above in his post.

INC on August 10, 2011 at 1:30 AM

More Darling Music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsjszrf8xA

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 1:21 AM

YAY! Another TAGS fan!

That’s the same tune they played on the first episode that they were on, wasn’t it? When they were in that hotel room and every time Andy or Mr. Masters knocked on the door, they crawled out the window and all you would hear was Briscoe’s jug blowing?!

Sterling Holobyte on August 10, 2011 at 1:31 AM

Can someone help me out here?

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

It is a win because it proves 2010 was not a fluke, the dems thought that 2010 was a one off and that the historic election was not what it appears to be a total rejection of Obama. Many good and some bad gopers were elected in that wave election. By retaining the control of the Senate the GOp proves that 2010 far from being a fluke was in fact real and that WI is now in play and a swing state in 2012. If Obama has to worry about a state he won by 14pts in 2008 he is in massive trouble.

Add in the fact that the dems blew through $30 million trying to take back control and it was a major lose for them. It would have been more major if the debt deal wasn’t signed and Obama and the dems didn’t have the ability to replinish their slush funds but still a major victory for the gOp.

It aso proves the RINOs wrong that said that poking the dems and fighting the unions were a bad move and that walker and the gop should have compromised.

the dems will spin it how they will. they aren’t going to come out and tell you they got their butts handed to them but they know. they are in massive trouble and the more Obama is around the bigger their defeat in 2012 will be if we get the right nominee.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:32 AM

Because there is a squish RINO who voted against the “union bill” this year. His last name is Schultz…they were pretty much begging him to cross-over on MSNBC, so this is why the 2 recalls next week are important. Any win would be more cushion, but 2 wins would be epic.

SouthernGent on August 10, 2011 at 1:30 AM

Stupid is an epidemic in the Schultz clans.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM

More Darling Music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRsjszrf8xA

Del Dolemonte on August 10, 2011 at 1:21 AM

YAY! Another TAGS fan!

That’s the same tune they played on the first episode that they were on, wasn’t it? When they were in that hotel room and every time Andy or Mr. Masters knocked on the door, they crawled out the window and all you would hear was Briscoe’s jug blowing?!

Sterling Holobyte on August 10, 2011 at 1:31 AM

Andy’s a big-time kool aide drinker.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM

Next Tuesday will be sweeter than tonight.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM

Markos calls ANYTHING a “win”. The night of….

Marcus on August 10, 2011 at 1:27 AM

You have to look at this chart:

INC on August 10, 2011 at 1:29 AM

Ok, so as I understand it it’s a win b/c the degenerate left spent gobs of money with a relatively little return of no Senate control.

and…

That Markos remains as big a creep as ever.

Thanks folks.

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:34 AM

Next Tuesday will be sweeter than tonight.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM

Let’s hope so..:)

Dire Straits on August 10, 2011 at 1:35 AM

Markos calls ANYTHING a “win”. The night of Leibermann/Lamont, that he was so invested in and they lost, his followers told him to STFU.

Marcus on August 10, 2011 at 1:27 AM

Funny, I just went over to see what the Kos Kiddies were saying, and saw that Kos had this posted:

Beyond Wisconsin, if we can enjoy a similar “loss rate” in Republican-held districts (picking up 33 percent of them), Speaker Nancy Pelosi will have a huge majority in 2013.

LOL – Now that’s some batsh!t insane extrapolation. They would pick up 80(!) Republican held seats in that scenario. Extrapolating from state seats in a strange off year election to federal seats in a presidential election is just stupid. And if the Republicans win one of the two Dem held seats next week, does that mean they’re going to pick up 50% of the Dem held seats next year?

And then this:

It’s going to be a long year, and tens of millions of dollars of Koch money (in addition to hundreds of millions more from Rove and allies) are going to force us to fight like hell for every inch of territory.

Never mind that the union goons outspent the Republicans 2 to 1. Kos is such an unbelievable idiot, but his followers are lapping it up.

strictnein on August 10, 2011 at 1:35 AM

Can someone help me out here?

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:25 AM

It’s a win because the unions, including those outside of WI sent in busloads of money, were crowing about their more than 8,000 volunteers and the GOTV crowd and THEY STILL LOST!

In an election like this or in a midterm, voter turnout is key. This proves that there are as many, or more voters fired up to stop the liberal progressive agenda in this country.

It gives us tremendous hope for next year.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:36 AM

Next Tuesday will be sweeter than tonight.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM

Yep. And the unions will be crying.

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:37 AM

There’s one more act to be played next week, when two Democrats are up for recall. I expect one of them to lose…

Steve Eggleston on August 10, 2011 at 1:29 AM

I’m already getting schadenfreudig. Next Tuesday will be even sweeter than tonight.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 1:37 AM

Andy’s a big-time kool aide drinker.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM

Yep, I know. Andy Griffith may be, but I don’t believe Andy Taylor is. He is too moral and conservative.

Sterling Holobyte on August 10, 2011 at 1:37 AM

Thanks Steve, unseen, INC, Southern Gent, Baxter Greene, and Marcus.

Much appreciated.

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:38 AM

Thanks Jvette.

I get it now.

Thanks to all.

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:38 AM

Wow, so the dems won 2 seats tonite, according to Steve Eggleston here just above this, might lose 1 seat next week, all of this chaos will have just one net Dem seat at the end of the day.

Are the libs still occupying the Capitol building and destroying it?

karenhasfreedom on August 10, 2011 at 1:39 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwMFpl1KLb8

SORE LOSER.
Didn’t Darling’s opponent concede?

Marcus on August 10, 2011 at 1:40 AM

aquaviva on August 10, 2011 at 1:38 AM

I’ve been holding my breath all day worried about the outcome.

The unions are still a force to be reckoned with when it comes to elections.

Tonight is good.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:40 AM

I’m already getting schadenfreudig.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 1:37

Like, aren’t you that all the time?
*ducks*
Btw: I’m tired of being a ‘twerp’. I’m now ‘weird girl’.
*makes face*

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:41 AM

Heh

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 1:41 AM

Marcus on August 10, 2011 at 1:40 AM

There are some very angry liberals commenting on that video.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:43 AM

I live in Chicago.
It is so nice to know that there are sane pople PEOPLE only 50 miles away.

xrayiiis on August 10, 2011 at 1:09 AM

xrayiiis on August 10, 2011 at 1:12 AM

In Lubbock there are folks from Naperville, Tinley Park, Chicago Heights(that’s us)…and the UPS guy is from Lake Villa-but since he’s a die-hard Sux fan…we don’t talk about him. LoL
Seriously-MOVE. TO. TEXAS.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:16 AM

I think about it every day, but I’m divorced and my kids are here, so I’m stuck. Pretty soon Chicago will be like Detroit (sorry Detroit) and even my ex will want to move to TX. At least I hope so.

xrayiiis on August 10, 2011 at 1:43 AM

Heh

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 1:41 AM

Ya THIBK?
///

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:44 AM

It is a win because it proves 2010 was not a fluke, the dems thought that 2010 was a one off and that the historic election was not what it appears to be a total rejection of Obama. Many good and some bad gopers were elected in that wave election. By retaining the control of the Senate the GOp proves that 2010 far from being a fluke was in fact real and that WI is now in play and a swing state in 2012. If Obama has to worry about a state he won by 14pts in 2008 he is in massive trouble.

Add in the fact that the dems blew through $30 million trying to take back control and it was a major lose for them. It would have been more major if the debt deal wasn’t signed and Obama and the dems didn’t have the ability to replinish their slush funds but still a major victory for the gOp.

It aso proves the RINOs wrong that said that poking the dems and fighting the unions were a bad move and that walker and the gop should have compromised.

the dems will spin it how they will. they aren’t going to come out and tell you they got their butts handed to them but they know. they are in massive trouble and the more Obama is around the bigger their defeat in 2012 will be if we get the right nominee.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:32 AM

Really good summation.

Geochelone on August 10, 2011 at 1:45 AM

have faith guys. the MSM /DNC/and GOp establishment wants to make like 2010 didn’t happen. They want to surpress the TEa party roll back the clock and stop this insur*ection of the people, by the people and for the people in its tracks. they want to label us as terrorists and hobbits and act like 2010 was a fluke. They want to tell us to Sit down and shut up but tonight the people once again told all three of those groups to go to hel! and stay there. There is a rising going on. It can’t be reaosned with, it can’t be stopped and we will take back and restore our country. And the elites on both sides have nothing to say about it.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:46 AM

The unions are still a force to be reckoned with when it comes to elections.

Tonight is good.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:40 AM

They lost big time. The fact that WI will no longer be taking union dues (extortion fees) out of employees checks will cripple them. They knew it and that’s why they fought so hard. Epic fail.

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:47 AM

There is a rising going on. It can’t be reaosned with, it can’t be stopped and we will take back and restore our country. And the elites on both sides have nothing to say about it.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:46 AM

Almost like a grassroots movement:)

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:48 AM

It is a win because it proves 2010 was not a fluke, the dems thought that 2010 was a one off and that the historic election was not what it appears to be a total rejection of Obama. Many good and some bad gopers were elected in that wave election. By retaining the control of the Senate the GOp proves that 2010 far from being a fluke was in fact real and that WI is now in play and a swing state in 2012. If Obama has to worry about a state he won by 14pts in 2008 he is in massive trouble.

Add in the fact that the dems blew through $30 million trying to take back control and it was a major lose for them. It would have been more major if the debt deal wasn’t signed and Obama and the dems didn’t have the ability to replinish their slush funds but still a major victory for the gOp.

It aso proves the RINOs wrong that said that poking the dems and fighting the unions were a bad move and that walker and the gop should have compromised.

the dems will spin it how they will. they aren’t going to come out and tell you they got their butts handed to them but they know. they are in massive trouble and the more Obama is around the bigger their defeat in 2012 will be if we get the right nominee.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:32 AM

Excellent post, unseen. We must remember that the Dems blew $30 million to get nowhere *AND* Walker did not compromise.

Did. Not. Compromise. and still maintained position.

All compromise seems to get is a free falling DOW, ridicule and being called a terrorist/hobbit.

kim roy on August 10, 2011 at 1:49 AM

Unions spent $30 million on two seats they were going to win in the next election anyway. Bwahahaha.

Such losers.

nickj116 on August 10, 2011 at 1:50 AM

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:47 AM

Just wish we would have had the same success getting rid of Harry, but we are stuck with him for another 5 years. :(

BTW and O/T: What do you think of the special election here in Nevada to replace Heller?

I am not in his district so I won’t be voting. Just hoping we keep the seat (R).

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:50 AM

I think about it every day, but I’m divorced and my kids are here, so I’m stuck. Pretty soon Chicago will be like Detroit (sorry Detroit) and even my ex will want to move to TX. At least I hope so.

xrayiiis on August 10, 2011 at 1:43 AM

I rode my bike ohme from work- 5+ miles in the dark on Sunday…and NOTHING happened to me.
In Chicago Heights I didn’t ride unless it was total daylight.
I can walk into the local craft mall and get a taser or very potent pepper spray.
Life is different here.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:50 AM

Congratulations Wisconsin! Four isn’t bad. I haven’t followed the election at all but I prefer to think the two losers probably fell short of tea party standards, and if that is indeed the case, good riddance to them. If they were good then I apologize. At any rate, I hope tea party turnout is even higher next week because, assuming the R’s are more tea party than the two we just lost, the tea party may be the only ones to come out ahead in the recall election if both win.

FloatingRock on August 10, 2011 at 1:51 AM

Almost like a grassroots movement:)

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:48 AM

Great job Wisconsin!

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:51 AM

Almost like a grassroots movement:)

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:48 AM

yeap the kindling is there, the wood is dry and there isn’t much spark needed to have a bonfire at the expense of the elites that have all but destroyed this country. ATM that means the dems but fires once started have a way of running out of control and cleaning all the bramble and dead wood.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:52 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 1:50 AM

My son has applied to two med schools in Chicago. Rosalind Franklin and Loyola. I want him to go but not so sure about Chicago. Of course, he may not be accepted then I won’t have to worry about it. News from there is not good.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:53 AM

All compromise seems to get is a free falling DOW, ridicule and being called a terrorist/hobbit.

kim roy on August 10, 2011 at 1:49 AM

yeap I really hope the RInos were paying attention tonight.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:53 AM

For the WI insiders, how will redistricting impact the Senate seats that have been in play on both sides this month?

karenhasfreedom on August 10, 2011 at 1:54 AM

Just wish we would have had the same success getting rid of Harry, but we are stuck with him for another 5 years. :(

BTW and O/T: What do you think of the special election here in Nevada to replace Heller?

I am not in his district so I won’t be voting. Just hoping we keep the seat (R).

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:50 AM

The unions sank us in 2010. Plus, folks like Wynn were idiots to support H red cause he is an old school polo. They are waking up now.

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:56 AM

For the WI insiders, how will redistricting impact the Senate seats that have been in play on both sides this month?

karenhasfreedom on August 10, 2011 at 1:54 AM

i would say advantage goes to the GOp since they control all the levers.

WI will be red for a long time if they continue to hold the line and do what the voters want them to do in the face of the onslaught.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:56 AM

V

egasRick on August 10, 2011 at 1:56 AM

Yeah, the roots from his days of the Gaming Control Board run deep I guess.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:59 AM

Well, that’ it for me tonight. Guess I’ll miss the Humpbot.

It’s been fun.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 2:00 AM

My son has applied to two med schools in Chicago. Rosalind Franklin and Loyola. I want him to go but not so sure about Chicago. Of course, he may not be accepted then I won’t have to worry about it. News from there is not good.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:53 AM

A friend’s son attends Loyola med.
The campus(the one around Sheridan and Devon) is nice-but it’s just east-2-3 miles-of Chicago proper’s main Islamist hub.
I call it ‘Islamabad on the Lake’. They’re the reason the orthodox Jews in the same neighborhood-west of Loyola-have ’round the clock security @ their a schools, shuls, and Yeshivas. I used to live in that area.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 2:01 AM

enjoy the win guys. calling it a night.

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 2:02 AM

Yeah, the roots from his days of the Gaming Control Board run deep I guess.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 1:59 AM

Worse than that is the fact that all these “smart guys” think that harry red actually think that this douchebag is good for our state or the country is good. He sucks and the regular folks know it.

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 2:04 AM

This was sort of a sequel to the 2010 elections. The Unions did make noise and muscled into the ruling party in government, but fell just short of majority control needed to advance their agenda.

If the two democrats are recalled next week, the whole thing was a moot point.

Mad Kimchi on August 10, 2011 at 2:04 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 2:01 AM

Well, that eases my mind. NOT!!! LOL

Hopefully, he’ll get in elsewhere. He’s applied to 18 schools so we’ll see. He says all he needs is to get into one.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 2:07 AM

Worse than that is the fact that all these “smart guys” think that harry red actually think that this douchebag is good for our state or the country is good. He sucks and the regular folks know it.

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 2:04 AM

I am ashamed to admit that when I first started voting in this state, I was a Dem. In fact, I worked for Boyd Gaming, only it wasn’t called that then and Harry Reid came into the casino one day when they were holding a voter registration drive with the employees.

I got to meet him and was so thrilled. Cringe, Cringe and double Cringe. I have a post card he sent congratulating me on registering to vote. GAG!

That was back in 1984. I have paid dearly for that mistake.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 2:10 AM

Now the Dems are ok with ‘anonymous’ cash :)…

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60731_Page2.html

jimver on August 10, 2011 at 2:11 AM

unseen on August 10, 2011 at 1:53 AM

When the GOP were in the minority here over the years, they didn’t shut down the government in order to prove a point, and likewise they didn’t flee the state to prevent a vote they didn’t like.

They bided their time, waited until voters were tired of the Democrats, and then made their move. And without a doubt, Walker’s agressiveness took many people here by surprise.

So if there is a lesson here, it is to first get all the levers of government under your control, then push through your agenda and let the results speak for themselves.

WisCon on August 10, 2011 at 2:12 AM

VegasRick on August 10, 2011 at 2:04 AM

Computer ate my last post. Won’t go into repeating it now.

You are right though, if the election was this year, I think he would be out.

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 2:13 AM

Now, that is it for me. Still have dinner dishes and a load of laundry to finish before heading to bed.

Night:)

Jvette on August 10, 2011 at 2:15 AM

I really should go write the first post for my blog-yet I’m still here.
HA is like an addictive drug. *sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on August 10, 2011 at 2:18 AM

This was sort of a sequel to the 2010 elections. The Unions did make noise and muscled into the ruling party in government, but fell just short of majority control needed to advance their agenda.

If the two democrats are recalled next week, the whole thing was a moot point.

Mad Kimchi on August 10, 2011 at 2:04 AM

I figure at least one will be recalled. Possibly both since the GOP voters will be energized to toss them out while the Dems will be playing defense.

Somehow, I don’t think a net gain of two seats was what the Dems had in mind for their $14+ million in slush funds. Anything less than taking the Senate and blocking the rest of Walker’s agenda has to be considered a failure for them IMHO.

teke184 on August 10, 2011 at 2:19 AM

Tribe wins. GOP wins. In the immortal words of Ice Cube, it was a good day.

Good Solid B-Plus on August 10, 2011 at 2:20 AM

In the immortal words of Ice Cube, it was a good day.

Good Solid B-Plus on August 10, 2011 at 2:20 AM

Didn’t even have to use my AK.

teke184 on August 10, 2011 at 2:24 AM

OT

Proving once again that Maureen Dowd and the left are completely delusional. I love it.

Obama has spent a lifetime creating his persona — superior, wise, above all parties and interests, all-seeing, calm, unflappable.

But as Drew Westen, a liberal psychology professor at Emory University wrote in The Times on Sunday, puzzling about what has happened to his former hero’s passion, the president never identifies the villains who cause our epic problems.

It’s unclear, Westen wrote, whether that reflects his aversion to conflict or a fear of offending donors, or both.

Obama’s assumption that you can rise above ascribing villainous motives has caused him to waste huge chunks of his first term seeking bipartisanship from Republicans who were playing him for a dupe. And it has led to Americans regarding the nation’s capital as a place of all villains and no heroes.

Maureen, he’s just a dupe, a dummy, whom you and yours built up into a Utopian figure.

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2011 at 2:36 AM

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