Video: “We’ve always been, and always will be, a AAA country”

posted at 5:25 pm on August 8, 2011 by Allahpundit

Ed and Tina have both written about this so here’s the vid in case you missed it. The key bit comes at 6:15. It’s a fine bipartisan bloggy tradition to goof on the president when he looks hapless at a presser, but watching this, with the market deteriorating moment by moment, all I felt was numb. This guy very clearly has run out of things to say, even with abject terror spreading in markets over Europe’s debt crisis and the possibility that America is sliding back into recession. Ironically, his big soundbite is detached from reality twice over: Not only will we not always be an AAA nation — given the scale of our debt crisis, we won’t always be an AA+ nation either — but it’s not the downgrade that drove today’s mammoth sell-off. Treasuries, as Ed noted earlier, did just fine notwithstanding S&P’s new rating. It’s broader economic fears that punished shares and that’ll keep on punishing shares for the foreseeable future. Especially since the next recession, if it happens, will be much worse than the last one.

I don’t know why he gave this speech except as a way to check the “president comments on unprecedented downgrade” box. Jen Rubin calls it horrifyingly bad, which is true, just as it’s also true that the best he could do today in terms of a concrete response to the downgrade is promise forthcoming deficit reduction “recommendations.” (Maybe public reaction to the downgrade will convince him that he has more to lose electorally by not seizing the reins of this issue than by seizing them. That’s the only thing that could get him to act.) But the deeper horror, of course, is that not all of this will be cured by dumping The One. It’s not Obama who attached that eurozone ball-and-chain to the market’s ankle, and even a Republican president will find his or her options limited amid the next financial crisis. This is an epic fail to some extent not because Hopenchange is a spent force, which it is, but because the western world’s finally been cornered economically by entitlement liabilities that were foreseeable when The One was a toddler. The bill’s come due. What else can he say?

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Typhonsentra on August 8, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Just what did you stupid PHUCKS do when you had the White House the House and the Senate? Hell dimwit you have the Senate and the White House still. Oh and many Dems also voted against raising the limit. You’re laughable.

CW on August 8, 2011 at 9:04 PM

“We’ve always been, and always will be, a AAA country”

You lying POS, not if you have your way.

disa on August 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Hmmm Ohio had their rating upgraded by S and P. Hmmm without raising taxes.

CW on August 8, 2011 at 9:08 PM

Typhonsentra on August 8, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Someone left the clueless doofas entrance unlocked again. These nitwits can’t find their ass with both hands, but somehow find their way in here and seem to be able to type. Let’s hope they’re smart enough to use contraception though – the thought of this shallow intellect actually procreating is a bit disturbing.

Midas on August 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM

“We’ve always been, and always will be, a AAA country”

I see American Exceptionalism is OK when it’s his agenda on the table.

Fighton03 on August 8, 2011 at 9:22 PM

Today, the president, Senator [John] Kerry and other Democrats now want to blame somebody for the credit downgrade – other than themselves,” Cain told a standing-room only crowd at Crunk’s Café here. “They control the Senate. They control the White House. Obama’s Treasury secretary [Tim Geithner] is in charge of the Treasury. Now they are trying to blame the Tea Party movement for the downgrade. How pathetic is that? That’s not leadership, folks – that’s not leadership.–HERMAN CAIN

CW on August 8, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Top three Democrats voted for debt ceiling bill

The top three House Democrats voted as a bloc for the debt ceiling bill Monday night.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, and Assistant Democratic Leader Jim Clyburn all voted for the bill.

In all, 95 Democrats voted for it, and 95 voted against.

TYHPON I wonder ..what were those 95 Dems thinking? ARE THEY terrorists?

CW on August 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM

“I have been… and always shall be… your friend. Live long… and prosper.”

galvestonian on August 8, 2011 at 9:40 PM

(Maybe public reaction to the downgrade will convince him that he has more to lose electorally by not seizing the reins of this issue than by seizing them. That’s the only thing that could get him to act.)

Yep, he’s ready to seize the reins of the unicorn and ride us all to someplace somewhere over the rainbow where bluebirds fly and no one ever again will have to ask, “Why oh why can’t I?”.

Buy Danish on August 8, 2011 at 9:44 PM

Dear America,

Pay no attention to the downgrade, now come see me on my bus tour.

Barack

TN Mom on August 8, 2011 at 9:52 PM

I see American Exceptionalism is OK when it’s his agenda on the table.

Fighton03 on August 8, 2011 at 9:22 PM

that is not exceptionalism what he said sounded like a self esteem lesson given to the losing team.

unseen on August 8, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Spending is now over 25% of GDP.
Tax revenues are about 16% of GDP.
Post WW2 revenue average is 18% of GDP- including all the years the top tax rate was 95%.

It’s a spending problem.

Tax revenues are a little under

Are you saying that tax revenues should be increased by 2% or have you been sold on a path to reducing spending all the way to 16% of GDP? I think this is the main issue that so many analysts have grappled with when analyzing the numbers. It’s an incredible complex undertaking.

I have yet to see a viable, detailed path to cutting spending to anything under 19% of GDP. Not given our aging population, interest payments on the debt, and massive defense commitments around the globe.

bayam on August 8, 2011 at 9:55 PM

It was 20% when Obama took office, Bayam. Let’s start there.

Chuck Schick on August 8, 2011 at 10:04 PM

“We’re all AAA in my book”
Saying it doesn’t make it so Mr. President.

This reminds me of how all the teams get trophies and told they are all winners.

multiuseless on August 8, 2011 at 10:06 PM

DOW futures down 255.00

bluefox on August 8, 2011 at 10:17 PM

“We’ve always been, and always will be, a AAA country”

With you at the helm, you incompetent clown, we will be a scroomed country!

btw, OPEN CHALLENGE TO GENERAL COLIN POWELL

$15,000 for 3 hours of the Perfumed Prince’s (a lead player in the Mia Lai coverup which he was promoted for) time. I am sure he will say no as he is a big chicken.

Lon Chaney on August 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM

I just want to thank the conservatives here and everywhere else for creating this whole scenario for us. S&P specifically made a point of listing no new revenue as the key reason for the downgrade and it wouldn’t of happened if not for you guys’ abject fear of paying taxes. Congrats on crashing the world economy guys!

Typhonsentra on August 8, 2011 at 5:51 PM

You big dope, the ratings’ agencies have been warning that our debt now and in the foreseeable future is unsustainable. No tax increases would ever begin to unravel this mess, especially when nearly half of Americans pay no taxes and have been taking a free ride for decades.

Learn to read and then immerse yourself in some facts and fundamental economics.

onlineanalyst on August 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM

“We’re all AAA in my book”
Saying it doesn’t make it so Mr. President.

This reminds me of how all the teams get trophies and told they are all winners.

multiuseless on August 8, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Obama is AAA. Affirmative Action Ass.

Lon Chaney on August 8, 2011 at 10:23 PM

“We’re all AAA in my book”
Saying it doesn’t make it so Mr. President.

This reminds me of how all the teams get trophies and told they are all winners.

multiuseless on August 8, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Obama is AAA. A-ffirmative A-ction A-ss.

Lon Chaney on August 8, 2011 at 10:24 PM

“We’ve always been, and always will be, a AAA country”

translation

“We’ve always been a corrupt capitalist nation based upon the exploitation of workers, and racism. If you expect me to do anything to restore the evil capitalist system, you are smoking something.”

AshleyTKing on August 8, 2011 at 10:26 PM

What a jerk to keep taking up valuable TV air time to say essentially nothing. The market went down another 3% when it realized he was only giving a stupid pep talk. This guy is an egomaniac and a time wasting menace.

Chessplayer on August 8, 2011 at 10:27 PM

I just want to thank the conservatives here and everywhere else for creating this whole scenario for us. S&P specifically made a point of listing no new revenue as the key reason for the downgrade and it wouldn’t of happened if not for you guys’ abject fear of paying taxes. Congrats on crashing the world economy guys!

Typhonsentra on August 8, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Kerry (Democrat) has been in the senate for what, 25 to 30 years?

Rubio (Republican/Tea Party) has been in the senate for 7 months.

Kerry has been in the senate about 50 times as long as Rubio, so therefor Kerry is innocent and Rubio is to blame.

You are insane.

Lon Chaney on August 8, 2011 at 10:27 PM

This happened on Obama’s watch . Hey that is the liberal rule.

CW on August 8, 2011 at 10:28 PM

You are insane.

Lon Chaney on August 8, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Great point …these tards are something.

CW on August 8, 2011 at 10:29 PM

But yeah, revenue was just an “Aside” in their statement despite it being the most often used word over 4 letters in the entire letter. Give me a break….

Typhonsentra on August 8, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Remember that raising tax rates does not necessarily translate to increased revenues, especially with your Giehtners and Kerrys dodging taxes any way they can.

Raising revenues ain’t going to touch the rate of growth of spending on entitlements. You’re just kicking the can down the road, liberals.

John the Libertarian on August 8, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Even Obama knows it is his fault or he wouldn’t be claiming we are still AAA. If he really thought it was the Republicans and Tea party’s fault he would be saying the rating should be far lower.

Lon Chaney on August 8, 2011 at 10:30 PM

To some extend, even a very small tax increase would serve the symbolic goal of demonstrating to the world that the US political system isn’t mired in partisan bickering and inaction.

Hey, bayam, Sorry, sport, but three items that O said were non-negotiable were his O-care, high speed rail, and green jobs. All of these are drains on America’s productivity and economic growth. They require massive outlays of taxes, are not demonstrably growth-oriented, and hamper the areas where the country could revive the engines of real revenue.

onlineanalyst on August 8, 2011 at 10:38 PM

Yeah they mentioned taxes as an “Aside”… that’s why the word “Revenue” comes up a massive.
But yeah, revenue was just an “Aside” in their statement despite it being the most often used word over 4 letters in the entire letter. Give me a break….
Typhonsentra on August 8, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Six bullet points and revenue is not mentioned.
The 6th bullet point

The outlook on the long-term rating is negative. We could lower the long-term rating to ‘AA’ within the next two years if we see that less reduction in spending than agreed to, higher interest rates, or new fiscal pressures during the period result in a higher general government

“new fiscal pressures” is subject to interpretation, however combined with higher general government debt trajectory, one would have to conclude they are talking about raising the debt ceiling again!

Revenues are mentioned in the 3rd paragraph, but it is in the context that the Dec. 2010 agreement tween Congress and the President that taxes would not be raised on ANYONE for 2 years!

This is clarified in the 6th paragraph

It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options.

Again in the context that the Dec. 2010 agreement tween Congress and the President that taxes would not be raised on ANYONE for 2 years!

Seriously, do you know what your reading/comp level is?
Do you know what the word “specifically” means?

S&P specifically made a point of listing no new revenue as the key reason for the downgrade

No it doesn’t, either your a liar or an idiot, or both!

In the 19th paragraph it states that even with the lapsing of the Bush tax cuts and if that brought more money into the gov. we would stabilize at ‘AA+‘, that is the current downgraded rating!

if the recommendations of the Congressional Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction–independently or coupled with other initiatives, such as the lapsing of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts for high earners–lead to fiscal onsolidation measures beyond the minimum mandated, and we believe they are likely to slow the deterioration of
the government’s debt dynamics, the long-term rating could stabilize at ‘AA+’.

Did you even read this report you linked?
Obviously you didn’t understand it, it’s 7th grade English!
Gezzzzzz why can’t we get intelligent trolls here?

DSchoen on August 8, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Yet it’s a widely held belief on Wall Street and even among the bipartisan deficit reduction commission that our fiscal problems run so deep that both lower spending and some new revenues are needed.

bayam: There would be plenty of “new revenues” if our nation were freed from the punishing and arbitrarily fanciful regulations that are denying us the right to unleash our natural resources. Direct and peripheral jobs would explode, generating new “revenues.”

onlineanalyst on August 8, 2011 at 10:47 PM

The patient weighs 847 pounds.

The doctor says “Yeah, he needs to eat less, blah, blah, blah, but he really needs to work out more.”

Really Right on August 8, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Hey, bayam, Sorry, sport, but three items that O said were non-negotiable were his O-care, high speed rail, and green jobs. All of these are drains on America’s productivity and economic growth. They require massive outlays of taxes, are not demonstrably growth-oriented, and hamper the areas where the country could revive the engines of real revenue.

onlineanalyst on August 8, 2011 at 10:38 PM

I agree with you on rail but not clean energy- not when China is massively subsidizing energy R&D. The only path to US energy independence is a combination of natural gas and renewable energy sources. The revenue that can be generated from clean energy can support tens of thousands of white and blue collar jobs. Look at the investments made by KP and other top VC firms and its clear that private capital is sold on the viability of alternative energy, esp. as oil prices continue to rise.

bayam: There would be plenty of “new revenues” if our nation were freed from the punishing and arbitrarily fanciful regulations that are denying us the right to unleash our natural resources. Direct and peripheral jobs would explode, generating new “revenues.”

onlineanalyst on August 8, 2011 at 10:47 PM

That’s right, just as job growth ‘exploded’ under Bush when regulations were better for oil companies. If you actually believe that the US economy can be driven by natural resources, you’re truly out of touch. This country is relatively poor in natural resources compared to Canada, Russia, and OPEC.

bayam on August 8, 2011 at 11:23 PM

I agree with you on rail but not clean energy- not when China is massively subsidizing energy R&D. The only path to US energy independence is a combination of natural gas and renewable energy sources

bayam: Do you not understand that energy companies have R&D departments? In fact, most manufacturing sectors do, as well? These companies plow a lot of their profit into research and development because their intent is to profit through growth. When government bleeds corporations through taxation, the monies for independent R&D diminishes.

Government subsidies squander capital and pay off the bureaucrats. Government does not grow jobs.

onlineanalyst on August 8, 2011 at 11:31 PM

He’s a AAA disaster.

NoLeftTurn on August 8, 2011 at 11:39 PM

ASo where are the jobs obama? Robust job and economic growth tloerate a lot of budget sins. U6 unemployment of 17% is patheticas.

seven on August 8, 2011 at 11:45 PM

“We’ve always been, and always will be, a AAA country”

I give this sentence a B+.

Physics Geek on August 8, 2011 at 11:47 PM

This country is relatively poor in natural resources compared to Canada, Russia, and OPEC.

bayam on August 8, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Uh-oh! Chicken Little gets some facts kryptonite:

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/10/crs-report-shows-much-higher-us-oil-gas-reserve-levels-than-previously-thought/

We have, in fact, 163 billion barrels of recoverable oil-nearly six times higher than what President Obama and the Democrats like to claim. Let’s think about 163 billion barrels for a moment: that is enough to maintain our current levels of production and replace our imports from the Persian Gulf for more than 50 years.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/03/are-we-sitting-on-unlimited-fossil-fuel-resources/

John the Libertarian on August 8, 2011 at 11:47 PM

President Stuart Smalley.

Ward Cleaver on August 9, 2011 at 12:02 AM

Looking to his right “No matter what people may say, we’ve always been, and always will be,” look to his left “a triple-A country.”

He can’t even look the American people in the eye to say something as simple, as important, as that!

He has to READ IT OFF A TELEPROMPTER!

MaggiePoo on August 9, 2011 at 12:13 AM

If you actually believe that the US economy can be driven by natural resources, you’re truly out of touch. This country is relatively poor in natural resources compared to Canada, Russia, and OPEC.

bayam on August 8, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Brilliant Satire!

First of all, “natural resources” include many variables that you are too feeble to grasp.

Our National Parks are a “natural resource”. And what most people, including you, don’t know is that those National Parks are collateral for our National Debt. They also generate more revenue than they consume, but the Democrats who controlled Congress from 2007 until 2011 have been trying their best to cut off their funds. Cloward-Piven, y’know.

http://www.npca.org/park_assets/NPCA_Economic_Significance_Report.pdf

The US has more natural resource coal than any other country in the world, but O’bama and your Democrats are trying to shut that down.

“Natural Resources” also include oil and natural gas; we have a lot of both of those as well, but your Democrats won’t let us extract them.

In fact, right now, the Democrats running EPA want to put the West Texas oil industry out of business, solely to possibly save a tiny lizard.

“Natural Resources” also include such things as solar and wind power; yet prominent Democrats like Teddy “The Swimmer” Kennedy tried to shut down wind farms in their own back yard. Here in New Hampshire, a new wind farm project just 30 miles down the highway from Mark Steyn’s place was recently approved despite a ferocious fight put up by an isolated pocket of Democrat Party “voters” at the nearby Plymouth State University.

“Natural Resources” also include animals; the US is the largest beef producer on the planet.

National Forests are also “Natural Resources”. Most of these are regularly harvested, otherwise the trees would grow out of control. Here in NH’s White Mountain National Forest, we literally have baby trees growing out of the bases of trunks of mature trees. They would be uncontrollable unless harvested.

Need another shovel?

Del Dolemonte on August 9, 2011 at 12:22 AM

Another perspective on why S&P downgraded -

• U.S. Tax revenue: $2,170,000,000,000
• Fed budget: $3,820,000,000,000
• New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000
• National debt: $14,271,000,000,000
• Recent budget cut: $ 38,500,000,000

Let’s remove 8 zeros and pretend it’s a household budget:

• Annual family income: $21,700
• Money the family spent: $38,200
• New debt on the credit card: $16,500
• Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
• Total budget cuts: $385

Dasher on August 9, 2011 at 12:31 AM

Again, where does it say that taxes need to be raised?

blink on August 9, 2011 at 12:30 AM

Duh — Liberals speak in code: … “fair and balanced” in Øbama speak means raise taxes on the rich.

Dasher on August 9, 2011 at 12:33 AM

For the life of me I do not get this liberal fascination with infrastructure. If construction workers are out of work, then they need different jobs!

WisCon on August 8, 2011 at 6:11 PM

It has a lot to do with funneling money to cronies and union buddies, who then funnel money back into ones campaign coffers.

Dasher on August 9, 2011 at 12:40 AM

Spock in Star Trek III II: Wrath of Kahn.

windansea on August 8, 2011 at 5:45 PM

portlandon on August 8, 2011 at 5:48 PM

yep, I googled the quote and first link was to Star Trek III

http://www.epinions.com/review/mvie_mu-1019863/content_55370878596

should have known it was from II

windansea on August 8, 2011 at 6:07 PM

The line was originally from Star Trek II, but they made a big point of repeating the line in Star Trek III. Since the line was in both movies, you weren’t really wrong in the first place.

tom on August 9, 2011 at 12:49 AM

If they come up with something, then we can just buy it from them. Surely, they’ll make a small margin on it, but if it’s truly viable, then we will still save.

Good idea, let’s abandon high growth industries of the future to China and just import more products from Asia. That’s been a real winning formula for US job growth and wealth creation over the past decade. Replacing foreign oil with foreign solar tech is about the worst outcome imaginable.

please tell me which of these KP greentech portfolio companies will provide a homerun exit for KP?

What kind of question is that- venture capital involves higher risk opportunities that are difficult for a layperson to analyze. You need to ask a venture capitalist.

Private capital was sold on the idea of flooding the internet with dot com and fiber optic companies, too.

Great argument- let’s assume that the free markets are wrong and should be ignored. Of course, if you invested in those internet bubble companies Amazon, PriceLine, eBay, and Netflix you had a different perspective. Even with fiber optics, the market and VC firms accurately predicted the technology’s ascent (but obviously their timing was 6 years off).

bayam on August 9, 2011 at 1:12 AM

It’s true that the ratings agencies placed far more emphasis on entitlement reform than new revenue or higher taxes. Yet it’s a widely held belief on Wall Street and even among the bipartisan deficit reduction commission that our fiscal problems run so deep that both lower spending and some new revenues are needed. To some extend, even a very small tax increase would serve the symbolic goal of demonstrating to the world that the US political system isn’t mired in partisan bickering and inaction. Until some type of entitlement reform and some new revenue pass Congress, the ability of our political system to cope with our fiscal disorder will remain an open question. bayam on August 8, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Higher tax rates wouldn’t even touch the deficit at this point. It’s highly unlikely that raising the tax rates would even bring in thin dime of revenue, because our economy is already in a recession, and raising taxes will just make the recession worse. It’s hard to get more income tax out of less income.

But it would accomplish forcing the conservatives to break their pledges to the American people who voted them into office, handing the House over to the Republicans.

Which is your real reason for begging for even a small tax increase: to make sure that the Republicans are seen as promise-breakers, so that people will vote for the Democrats who promise to take care of them.

Give it up. Boehner didn’t fall for it, and neither will anyone else. With the possible exception of John McCain.

tom on August 9, 2011 at 1:22 AM

Chump… Barry is starting to look like even he doesn’t believe the crap he’s selling.
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RalphyBoy on August 9, 2011 at 1:41 AM

Good idea, let’s abandon high growth industries of the future

bayam on August 9, 2011 at 1:12 AM

Question #1… what are these “high growth industries of the future” you speak of? Name them.

Question #2…you obviously can’t refute my 12:22 AM post with credible facts. Care to have a go at it now?

Del Dolemonte on August 9, 2011 at 1:53 AM

“We’ve always been, and always will be, a AAA country”

Except, we’re not.

Great going Obozo. Always remember; “never let a crisis go to waste”.

Anti-American, Marxist traitor.

KMC1 on August 9, 2011 at 2:04 AM

this sounds like some platitude a mom would say to her kid after he got a bad grade….”you’re always an A+ student to me, I don’t care what grade that teacher gave you…”

how motivating./

ted c on August 9, 2011 at 6:31 AM

It’s like watching a third grader run for hall monitor with this guy…

SuperCool on August 9, 2011 at 6:55 AM

It appears that Wall Street was not impressed by Scooter’s speech.

kingsjester on August 9, 2011 at 7:17 AM

He has already been largely tuned out but from now on, whenever he speaks, no matter what he says, the only word people will here is downgrade: “Now let me be downgrade….My downgrade has always been….No matter what some downgrade might say, we have alwasy been and always will be a downgrade country.”

curved space on August 9, 2011 at 7:20 AM

We’re good enough, we’re smart enough, and Ddggone it, people will always say we’re AAA!

MNHawk on August 9, 2011 at 7:21 AM

barry o’downgrade gives a speech
barry o’downgrade flies on his plane
barry o’downgrade late for a meeting
barry o’downgrade plans his vacation
barry o’downgrade dances the conga
barry o’downgrade cuts his birthday cake
barry o’downgrade visits training camp

could be a series of marxist children’s books…

ted c on August 9, 2011 at 7:28 AM

“We’ve always been, and always will be, a AAA country”

Not while YOU are in that whitehouse.

tx2654 on August 9, 2011 at 9:15 AM

I agree with you on rail but not clean energy- not when China is massively subsidizing energy R&D.

bayam on August 8, 2011 at 11:23 PM

You do know what that D stands for, right? Here, let me help. It stands for development. I notice you didn’t say CLEAN energy R&D, even though in the previous sentence, you specifically mention CLEAN energy. Why the disconnect?

Let me help you again. China is building a new coal fired power plant every week. That is referred to as development. It takes massive amounts of money (aka subsidization) to build even one of these plants. You knew the talking point you used referred to this money, not some idiotic CLEAN energy R&D, but you lied about it anyway. Let me give you yet another clue. The Chinese are smarter than to put large amounts of money into something unless they KNOW it already works. Us? Not so much, and all because of people like you. Thanks moron.

runawayyyy on August 9, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Watch this guys answer to ” its the Tea parties fault” I love this guy. make it go viral!!!!
http://moonbattery.com/?p=912#comment-7192

ColdWarrior57 on August 9, 2011 at 8:52 PM

I just saw this video. Too funny and honest NSFW
http://minx.cc/?post=320000

ColdWarrior57 on August 11, 2011 at 11:51 AM

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