Video: London is burning

posted at 9:35 pm on August 8, 2011 by Allahpundit

It’s been burning for three days now. 215 people have been arrested so far, but the riots are spreading, not shrinking.

It started as a peaceful protest of a police shooting, but that’s not how it’ll end:

“It’s been building up for years. All it needed was a spark,” said E. Nan, a young man in a baseball cap surrounded by other youths in Hackney in east London. “We ain’t got no jobs, no money … We heard that other people were getting things for free, so why not us?”…

By Monday, the violence had spread to parts of the south of the city, including Clapham Junction, one of London’s busiest railway junctions, Woolwich in the capital’s southeast and the Ealing area of west London.

Attackers also smashed shops and looted property in the city of Birmingham in central England, police said, in the first sign of the riots spreading beyond the capital…

“It’s very sad to see … But kids have got no work, no future and the cuts have made it worse. These kids are from another generation to us and they just don’t care,” said Anthony Burns, 39, an electrician from Hackney. “You watch. It’s only just begun.”

It seems like just yesterday that young Brits were rampaging through the streets of London in response to budget cuts and screaming “off with their heads” at Prince Charles and his wife. A reporter from Sky News was on the scene in Clapham Junction, where the third video below was taken, and claims he can’t find any police there. The force is so overwhelmed, apparently, that they simply have no presence in some of the affected areas. How long, I wonder, before we see British troops in the streets.

Rather than have me blather at you, open up a couple of tabs and follow the BBC’s and the Telegraph’s liveblogs, which are riveting. The BBC’s, in particular, really does make it sound as though the whole city is being sacked. Exit question via Jim Treacher: Remember when MSNBC hack Martin Bashir marveled at how orderly and dignified British crowds were compared to their troglodytic American cousins? Yeah.

Update: A point made in both the BBC’s and the Telegraph’s coverage: It looks like some rioters are coordinating via Blackberry. Someone on Twitter quoted by the Beeb is calling for Research In Motion to pull the plug on their text service in the UK until the riots are over. See this Tech Crunch Europe piece for more.

Update: It’s come to this.

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Britain’s relearning season.

Next election cycle may not go well for the libs.

After riots in the 70s: Margaret Hilda Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher, LG, OM, PC, FRS (née Roberts; born 13 October 1925) is a former Conservative Prime Minister of the United Kingdom who served from 1979 to 1990.

Speakup on August 9, 2011 at 11:09 AM

Why aren’t the British police shooting at these people? Apparently they are agonizing over whether they should use water cannons? These rioters are burning buildings, threatening the lives of many law-abiding citizens. They may as well just give up, open up all the stores for the looters and step away.

mbs on August 9, 2011 at 11:09 AM

Don’t know if anyone’s posted the video of this black granny standing up to the rioters yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITJcparImeQ

Sharke on August 9, 2011 at 11:10 AM

What will happen here when Obama loses in 2012??

PatriotRider on August 9, 2011 at 11:13 AM

What will happen here when Obama loses in 2012??

PatriotRider on August 9, 2011 at 11:13 AM

these London images will be déjà vu…

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Two girls who took part in Monday night’s riots in Croydon have boasted that they were showing police and “the rich” that “we can do what we want”.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

This is the level of intelligence we’re talking about here…these kids are as thick as pigsh!t.

Sharke on August 9, 2011 at 11:19 AM

This won’t happen in any free state in the US, because we are armed.molonlabe28 on August 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM

REPORT: BLACK ‘MOBS’ ATTACK WHITE PATRONS OUTSIDE WIS. STATE FAIR.

“It looked like they were just going after white guys, white people.”

That’s how Norb Roffers described the scene outside the Wisconsin State Fair on Thursday night to Newsradio 620 WTMJ in Milwaukee. “They were attacking everybody for no reason whatsoever,” he added. END

Don’t kid yourself, flash mobs are on the rise in the U.S. using social media to show up swarm and rob businesses. Down here in Texas ,the theft of copper line etc from air conditioning units etc. Is also on the rise. It’s gotten to the point you have to chain down your outside unit.

Dr Evil on August 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM

these London images will be déjà vu…

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 11:14 AM

For sure in the nonCCW states. They’ll go for the low hanging fruit first. After that, thug survival instincts may kick in.

a capella on August 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM

Sharke on August 9, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Unfortunately, they’re not. They know the police won’t respond effectively.

gh on August 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Don’t know if anyone’s posted the video of this black granny standing up to the rioters yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITJcparImeQ

Sharke on August 9, 2011 at 11:10 AM

yeah, problem is they don’t show this on their main TV stations….BBC is busy making strange parallels with the Arab Spring, and The Guardian making apologies for these barbarians

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 11:22 AM

mbs on August 9, 2011 at 11:09 AM

Cameron is a dolt he thinks he’s keeping it from escalating too late they are coordinated they are using social media just like they did in Egypt. Twitter, etc…It’s past time to call out the military squash it before it spreads outside their borders. I would start looking at those people’s immigration status time for them to go home and enjoy the tyranny they left to cause havoc in the West.

Dr Evil on August 9, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Thieves Steal Lauderdale Church’s A/C Units. They had to get them over 6ft fences. This same crime is on the rise in Texas.

Coordinated social media thugging, apparently the new trend in crime.

Dr Evil on August 9, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Why aren’t the British police shooting at these people? Apparently they are agonizing over whether they should use water cannons? These rioters are burning buildings, threatening the lives of many law-abiding citizens. They may as well just give up, open up all the stores for the looters and step away.

mbs on August 9, 2011 at 11:09 AM

you’re joking…today the London MP announced for the first time that they ‘may’ (emphasis on may) use plastic bullets…gee, the rioters must be s**t scared, now that they announced officially that they ‘may’…

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 11:27 AM

.BBC is busy making strange parallels with the Arab Spring, and The Guardian making apologies for these barbarians

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Glenn Beck made those parrelles many times over when he was on FNC, but was mocked for his predictions. A crazy right wing loon/ The English experiment with coddling socialist is ending badly.

Dr Evil on August 9, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Wow! Just Wow! Did you guys just hear what that chic said in that video?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

Not only did she say it was “the rich people.” But she blamed, “it’s the conservatives.”

This is now outright War! The Right vs. Left. This is no longer a simple disagreement over issues. We are witnessing Civil War. And one of the battles in the War is in Wisconsin today.

ericdondero on August 9, 2011 at 11:28 AM

I’m not sure I know why those rioters are still alive.

I know why they rioted. They’re unhappy and the downside for their behavior is historically close enough to zero that “Why not?” takes over.

But, why would a sensible society let this level of behavior persist and those who behave that way to live? There’s no place to store them. So simply feed them to the tree chipper on the spot.

{^_^}

herself on August 9, 2011 at 11:29 AM

Endagering lives and destroying private property. Why isn’t the government using lethal force on these jerks?

Give them one warning … if they fail to heed it, fire.

The country is disintegrating, might as well fight for it while you can.

darwin on August 9, 2011 at 11:34 AM

I would start looking at those people’s immigration status time for them to go home and enjoy the tyranny they left to cause havoc in the West.

Dr Evil on August 9, 2011 at 11:23 AM

have you heard their accents? these yobs are second and third generation there (especially the West Indian blacks), you just can’t deport them…I think police might even give up arresting them, coz guess what, their judicial system is a joke…it will take months and months to prosecute this scum, and then they will either be put in correctional centers(did you see how young some of them are), or put in jail only to be released a few months later later…so why bother? England is screwed…

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 11:35 AM

This is what welfare breeds. People whose very existence depends on “the rich” and working people to keep their bellies filled with food, a roof over their heads and spending money villifying “the rich” and destroying their property.

Have no mercy on these thugs and clean out the welfare rolls.

darwin on August 9, 2011 at 11:37 AM

Expect this in the US soon. All part of the plan.

I recommend chemical weapons. Fast, mostly painless and non-persistent.

darwin on August 9, 2011 at 11:38 AM

Endangering lives and destroying private property. Why isn’t the government using lethal force on these jerks?

Give them one warning … if they fail to heed it, fire.

The country is disintegrating, might as well fight for it while you can.

darwin on August 9, 2011 at 11:34 AM

If they don’t allow tougher tactics soon, the police will refuse to work nights. Why risk your life for the weak-kneed political correctness of government?

slickwillie2001 on August 9, 2011 at 11:40 AM

Unexpected.

Who would have thought years of become wimps in the raising of “youths”, along with cradle to the grave handouts, and sissified law enforcement around the globe would lead to out of control rioting.

I heard it mentioned that it will happen here when Barry is tossed out, but it would would happen if he won again. The entitlement bubble would burst even sooner.

When that happens, all I ask is that I be left alone to defend my own property.

reaganaut on August 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM

When that happens, all I ask is that I be left alone to defend my own property.

This.

spmat on August 9, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Lawlessness and violence fills the earth, economic chaos worldwide, the scene is being set for the greatest delusion ever on the people of the world. We saw it work on the American people in 2008, now Barry and his ilk will set up their false christ. Better lock and load

wepeople on August 9, 2011 at 12:01 PM

But, why would a sensible society let this level of behavior persist and those who behave that way to live? There’s no place to store them. So simply feed them to the tree chipper on the spot.

{^_^}

herself on August 9, 2011 at 11:29 AM

The Brits let that happen to them, in a way, they turned a blind eye to all this, though the writing on the wall…. maybe they didn’t quite imagine that it would amount to societal collapse, but I am afraid they painted themselves into am unenviable corner…I think they left the guard down and stopped caring at some point, partly because of pressure from the PC brigades and the aggressive left and their policies (multiculturalism and other failed ‘isms’), at some point you don’t want to hear these imbeciles lecturing you and regulating every single aspect of your life, so you basically switch them off… partly it’s human nature, you turn inward and towards your own little circle of family and friends, and ignore what’s going on around you, and hope that it will all go away and you will be fine, it’s a self-protection mechanism….the denial and the ostrich thing…the gap between this underclass of immigrants and the rest of society in England is huge, and they can’t even blame it on ‘poverty’, coz it’s not that primarily… these people live on benefits from early on, 18 year old or so, and they can stay on said benefits for their entire adult life…and eventually they get a pension too…a friend of mine who used to be a social worker in London told me that there was a joke circulating among their colleagues, they were calling some of the people they were servicing ‘their dynasty clients’, meaning three generations within a family were on welfare, it’s almost like an inherited right for some of them…so, it is not the poverty necessarily, it’s the idiotic multiculturalism project, that didn’t require any form of integration or assimilation of these people, the emphasis was on their differences and preservation of their cultural identity, and how wonderful it is to live by side with all our differences, kumbaya maya typical leftist BS…only that translated into ghettoization, society was ok to let them live in ghetto-style communities of their own, let them preserve their ‘differences’ and ‘identities’ while collecting their welfare checks (the Brits naively imagined probably that this would keep them happy and if possibly away from the mainstream society), only now it came back to bite them… well, there they have it, their wonderful multiculturalism project…

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 12:07 PM

They should just shoot to kill.

clnurnberg on August 9, 2011 at 12:32 PM

“We ain’t got no jobs, no money … ”

But they have the Blackberries and phone and data plans to coordinate these riots. Dollars to doughnuts these rioters all have nice TVs and nicer sneakers, too.

My heart bleeds.

Pope Linus on August 9, 2011 at 1:03 PM

They should just shoot to kill.

clnurnberg on August 9, 2011 at 12:32 PM

now, that would make Barry v. angry :-)…am sure Cameron wouldn’t fancy a race lecture through the phone from CRACKPOTUS :-)…

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 1:06 PM

The problem is a society where two girls can call rioting, burning, and looting “good fun” because it’s all against “the rich”… who just happen to be small business owners. Face it, folks. The barbarians are already inside the gates.

RebeccaH on August 9, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Ok , perhaps I am crazy but on the pict in the main forum. call me crazy but I see satan on the right with his mouth open, his arm stretched out pulling the central fire mass into his mouth. I am not a bible thumper or a religous freak but, thats what I see in the picture.

ColdWarrior57 on August 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM

The problem is a society where two girls can call rioting, burning, and looting “good fun” because it’s all against “the rich”… who just happen to be small business owners. Face it, folks. The barbarians are already inside the gates.

RebeccaH on August 9, 2011 at 1:07 P

M

sad thing is that they probably have absolutely no clue what they were talking about (except for the ‘fun’ part of course, after all for such airheads anything can be ‘fun’), their ineptitude and absence of any form of common sense was evident from the way they were talking…but that’s the kind of ‘discourse’ (‘the rich are the enemy’ meme and the class warfare drivel) they have been spoon fed by the BBC and the left outfits, starting with The Guardian that’s busy right now making apologies for this ‘underprivileged class of young black immigrants’…

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Is this what is was like in Russia during WWII?

Count to 10 on August 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Is this what is was like in Russia during WWII?
Count to 10 on August 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Oops. WWI, not II.

Count to 10 on August 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Oops. WWI, not II.

Count to 10 on August 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM

more like in Russia during the 1917 revolution :-)…

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Dr. Evil-

I said free states.

Wisconsin is not a free state currently, although it will begin to issue handgun carry permits on November 1, 2011.

Theft, property crimes and crimes against individuals and businesses everywhere will, of course, rise dramatically as the depression/endless recession continues and increases in scope.

But I think that attempted flash mob attacks against armed victims will result in an armed response, which will serve as a deterrent effect in states where many people carry guns.

I just don’t see rioting, as we see in London, happening in places in the US where would be victims shoot back.

I hope I am correct, but time will tell.
Take care.

molonlabe28 on August 9, 2011 at 1:38 PM

nothing will demoralize the Brits though :-)…one of the reasons why I like them so much, despite their often self-defeating attitude…

‘London Rises from Ashes’
‘Local Communities unite following riots’

http://www.stylist.co.uk/life/london-rises-from-the-ashes#

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Wow. Compare and contrast London during WW II and London now.

My God how can anyone not see the evil inherent in Socialism.

hillbillyjim on August 9, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Wow. Compare and contrast London during WW II and London now.

My God how can anyone not see the evil inherent in Socialism.

hillbillyjim on August 9, 2011 at 1:48 PM

it’s insidious…and it appeals to human nature, equality for all, social justice and all the crap…people are gullible and…oh, yeah, weak too…

jimver on August 9, 2011 at 1:57 PM

This song says it all: LINK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBasdIOVY7c

Don’t let England happen to your country.

Geochelone on August 9, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Last year there was a ‘small incident’ outside the Iowa State Fair. This year they are expecting worse. But they are telling fair-goers to leave their guns at home. If you carry a gun, even with a permit, you will be turned away.

marge on August 9, 2011 at 3:16 PM

molonlabe28 on August 9, 2011 at 1:38 PM

For flash mobsters, crowd size a tempting cover

The July 4 fireworks display in the Cleveland suburb of Shaker Heights was anything but a family affair.
As many as 1,000 teenagers, mobilized through social networking sites, turned out and soon started fighting and disrupting the event.
Thanks to social networks like Twitter and Facebook, more and more so-called flash mobs are materializing across the globe, leaving police scrambling to keep tabs on the spontaneous assemblies.
“They’re gathering with an intent behind it – not just to enjoy the event,” Shaker Heights Police Chief D. Scott Lee said. “All too often, some of the intent is malicious.”

Dr Evil on August 9, 2011 at 3:56 PM

I hope I am correct, but time will tell.
Take care.

molonlabe28 on August 9, 2011 at 1:38 PM

We are in Texas, and well armed. I am from Montana, probably one of the most pro 2nd Amendment states in the Union. We know all about undesirables, and the cure. 3-7-77.

Dr Evil on August 9, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Here’s a black leader with the courage to speak up:Philadelphia Mayor Talks Tough to Black Teenagers After ‘Flash Mobs’

slickwillie2001 on August 9, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Some Americans still think of Britain as a polite place filled with castles and clotted cream. Anyone who has traveled there in recent years knows that you take your life in your hands if you are in a city centre after dark.

For years the Brits have meekly stood by as their government disarmed them and gave criminals, not victims, the protection of the law.

American shopowners would be shooting the looters, and not with plastic bullets. Our British friends should read about the role that privately owned guns played during the Katrina crisis — the guns that the police didn’t confiscate, that is. Those who kept their guns, kept their property.

Drudge reports that on the Amazon.com.uk site, sales of American baseball bats have increased by about 6,000 percent in the past day or so. Batter up!

Better still, get some guts and get some guns, Brits.

KyMouse on August 9, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Leftists trying to equalize misery.

Dollayo on August 9, 2011 at 4:37 PM

The Times of London’s home page has a headline that says “Londoners stand up to defy rioters.”

And the photo accompanying that headline shows people holding up brooms.

Clean-up crews…yeah, they’ll stop the rioters.

KyMouse on August 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Here’s a black leader with the courage to speak up:Philadelphia Mayor Talks Tough to Black Teenagers After ‘Flash Mobs’

slickwillie2001 on August 9, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Excellent article! The good Mayor is absolutely spot-on. Too bad he’s described in the article as a “major Obama ally”…

Mary in LA on August 9, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Dr. Evil-

I live in Tn and I was actually living in Memphis in 1968 when MLK came to town to protest on behalf of the garbage men and when he was assassinated.

There were no handgun carry permits back then and the rioters were largely unopposed.

They could still riot in black neighborhoods today, but people in mixed neighborhoods and white neighborhoods would shoot back today.

I have carried for over a decade, but I still have many friends who don’t carry, including some who live in Memphis.

I spend a lot of time there (it ranked #2 in murder rates in 2 out of the last 3 or 4 years – right behind Detriot, which is not much different from Mogadishu), and I always carry (and sometimes even have a backup or 2).

If someone started a flash mob over here in East Tn, it would be over before it started.

We also have a working farm and I would be happy if we seldom left it to go to the city (except for gun shows).

molonlabe28 on August 9, 2011 at 5:58 PM

5,000- 10,000 should have beens arrested.

proconstitution on August 9, 2011 at 9:01 PM

The poor have been rioting in England for a few thousand years.

Move along.

Odie1941 on August 10, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Ihave a stupid assed question.
Where are the law biding people?
hiding waiting on the police?
Ok color me crazy I would go and stand with the police.
yea yea I know easier said then done, but I have done it and will do it again. A cop was in a fight with some asshole, its a tied up fight, my daugther ran into the house crying that a cop was in a fight, I ran out there asked the cop if he needed a hand, the perp stopped fighting. he then said he was going to come back and fix me. I Told him he had my address come on back, the cop told him to STFU .
you WE cannot depend on just the police. they cannot do it ALONE.

ColdWarrior57 on August 10, 2011 at 4:55 PM

The Brits are such softies on crime: currently the law is that young first offenders don’t get jail time (unless there’s serious physical harm done) but probably get get a finger waved at them – as explained in this video

http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16047027

Surprised this hasn’t happened more often. What a bunch of losing suckers! The police are going to crack down though – they might call the thugs naughty names. Take that back, the police would then get in trouble.

Chessplayer on August 10, 2011 at 5:14 PM

The poor have been rioting in England for a few thousand years.

Move along.

Odie1941 on August 10, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Truth. But up until the last 50 years or so, the Brits had and made use of very effective methods of stopping the trash class from rioting.

Uncle Sams Nephew on August 12, 2011 at 7:32 AM

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