Ralph Nader: We’re totally going to primary Obama

posted at 8:10 pm on August 5, 2011 by Allahpundit

Must be true. How often is Ralph Nader wrong about anything?

“What [Obama] did this week is just going to energize that effort,” Nader promised in an interview with The Daily Caller. “I would guess that the chances of there being a challenge to Obama in the primary are almost 100 percent.”

The only question, he said, is the stature of that opponent and whether it will be either “an ex-senator or an ex-governor” or “an intellectual leader or an environmental leader.”

In approximately a week and a half there will be “another chapter of this effort,” Nader predicted…

Nader said he doesn’t plan to launch another campaign for president, either as an independent candidate or as a primary challenger to President Obama.

Follow the link for obligatory derision of the tea party as a catspaw of corporate interests. Normally I’d agree with Jay Cost and laugh this off on grounds that “no serious Democratic official would dare challenge Obama,” but the story gives me pause for two reasons. First, Nader sounds like he has someone specific in mind — more than one person, maybe — and that an announcement is in the works. Whether that means he’s found a challenger for Obama on the left and is ready to introduce him publicly or merely that he’s had interest from multiple people, we’ll see, but it suggests this is more than just an aspirational thing.

Second, Cost is right that no serious Democrat would risk his/her status in the party by challenging Obama, but like Bill Kristol says, it doesn’t have to be someone serious. The left knows O will be the nominee. All they want to do is keep him honest so that he doesn’t agree to any more debt deals that make them weep blood in anguish. Kristol:

Surely they’ll produce a primary challenger to their Wall Street coddling, Afghan war prosecuting, drone assassination ordering, and debt ceiling deal-signing occupant of the Oval Office! That opponent might perhaps not be “serious,” but his effort could be attention getting, issue raising, and meaningful for the future. Far be it from me to give advice to the professional left. But it has been a sign of the health and vitality of the right over the last forty years that it could at least produce primary challengers to moderate and establishment Republican officeholders. For the left to roll over totally for Obama, after giving Clinton a pass in 1996, would be a sign of a massive failure of conviction and imagination and nerve.

So, Russ Feingold or Dennis Kucinich, Robert Reich or Paul Krugman: Won’t one of you be willing to raise the progressive banner high? Across the ideological chasm, THE WEEKLY STANDARD will salute you!

Why not? The only risk to Obama from a hard-left liberal running on a lark is that the attacks on him might turn parts of his base against him irretrievably and they’ll stay home in November. But how real is that risk once the Democratic message team gets to work on Mediscaring and framing the GOP nominee as the new Hitler? If Nader and his candidate want to maximize damage to O they’ll skip the primary and run third party, but the base probably won’t go for that given that they still have night sweats about what happened to Gore in 2000. In fact, a challenge from the left in the primary could help Obama by letting him appeal to independents as a “moderate” in the general election. Imagine if (giggle) Krugman jumped in and started screeching about tea-party terrorists and how we need another $5 trillion in stimulus. Obama’s exhausted above-the-fray “adult in the room” crap might start to sound plausible-ish again to centrists.

Exit question: Who’s going to run? (And before you say you-know-who, forget it.) Ideally they want someone with name recognition and gravitas on the left, which I think rules out Kucinich, and someone who has nothing to lose by alienating the Democratic establishment, which probably rules out Feingold. Being good in front of the camera would help a lot too. Are you ready for … Olbermann 2012?

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Right on cue…

Count to 10 on August 5, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Question is – will they be Civil to each other in that primary?

You’ll excuse I’m going to go stock up on popcorn…

Chip on August 5, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Draft Alan Grayson.

Southernblogger on August 5, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Howie Dean, and his scream machine!!!

Seriously, Howie has to have a chip on his shoulder from not being asked (we think) to play any part in the administration of little Bammie.

slickwillie2001 on August 5, 2011 at 8:17 PM

The Democrats HAVE to have someone else on the ballot in California and New York or else Romney will get half the Democrats’ votes in the primary and the general.

crosspatch on August 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM

The Democrats HAVE to have someone else on the ballot in California and New York or else Romney will get half the Democrats’ votes in the primary and the general.

crosspatch on August 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Romney isn’t going to be the nominee, and even if he was, he’d get no more Democratic votes than Sarah Palin would. Or, for that matter, than John McCain did.

When Democrats and the media talk up a Republican, they’re preening themselves as independent thinkers. They don’t actually vote for the man.

HitNRun on August 5, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Sorry, Ralphy, but your brand has gone the way of the Corsair. It is kaput, finis, over. Who you gonna pull? It is over, Ralphy.

Limerick on August 5, 2011 at 8:22 PM

If the economy continues to tank and Obama’s numbers stay low then look for a center left candidate to run.

In 1980 ted Kennedy ran against a Sitting Dem President. 1968 several including Robert Kennedy ran against LBJ.

But serious the left cant upset black voters vby running against the first black president. So it would take someone who is on the fringe anyways.

William Amos on August 5, 2011 at 8:24 PM

In fact, a challenge from the left in the primary could help Obama by letting him appeal to independents as a “moderate” in the general election.

Bingo. That is the only reason someone would primary Obama. Only. It’s always about perception, image, and narrative with Libs. Someone like Sanders from VT could/would run against Obama, and *presto!* Obama is the reasoned moderate that Indies will flock to (so their delusioned minds think).

conservative pilgrim on August 5, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Are you ready for … Olbermann 2012?

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

*but I admit it would be entertaining*

predator on August 5, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Harpo Yerfniw?

SouthernGent on August 5, 2011 at 8:27 PM

slickwillie2001 on August 5, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Interesting concept. One narcissist against another.
CLASH OF THE NARCISSISTIC TITANS!

predator on August 5, 2011 at 8:27 PM

It is ineresting when Ralph Nader openly comes out and admits failure. Oh, wait. He’s done that all along.

Key West Reader on August 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM

He is a different Party for crying out loud.

pat on August 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Where the hell are the $ to primary Barry? Gone with the Wind between South St and Broadway.

Limerick on August 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Evan Bayh will challenge Obama. I’ve been saying it for months. If the Democracks run Obama, they’ll lose. They know it.

Bayh has kept a relatively low profile. He’ll have to overcome the “racist” mantra. Hillary won’t run.

If Evan runs? That’s a total and complete collapse of the Barack Hussein Obama reign.

/Spectator sport

Key West Reader on August 5, 2011 at 8:31 PM

A debate between Howie and Barry would be interesting. No teleprompters, so it would be:

Um, er, ah, I, I, er, uh, ah,

vs.

YEEEAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!

predator on August 5, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Where the hell are the $ to primary Barry? Gone with the Wind between South St and Broadway.

Limerick on August 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Google it. He left with a huge war chest.

I’d really love a challenge. It’s like football. Unless you cheat. Like the Patriots.

Key West Reader on August 5, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Key West Reader on August 5, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Bayh for the win…

Gohawgs on August 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM

How about Algore?

tinkerthinker on August 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Are you ready for … Olbermann 2012?

Weiner/Wu 2012!

Kevin71 on August 5, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Key West Reader on August 5, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Really? You think the DNC will allow Ralph on the ballot in anyplace other than West Virginia and South Dakota? To cobble him Mr Unsafe-at-any-Speed would need to lock up 4-5%. Allah’s October ’12 paycheck that it maxes out at 1%.

The real problem here is the RNC is alive and well and hasn’t a clue how to take the ball and run with it. So many here think Barry is going to be ducks in a pond. Sad, that.

Limerick on August 5, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Weiner/Wu 2012!

Kevin71 on August 5, 2011 at 8:35 PM

You have to make it rhyme. It’s the lefty way.

Weiner/Wu Two-Oh-One-Two!

predator on August 5, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Bayh for the win…

Gohawgs on August 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Split the baby.

Key West Reader on August 5, 2011 at 8:45 PM

The real problem here is the RNC is alive and well and hasn’t a clue how to take the ball and run with it. So many here think Barry is going to be ducks in a pond. Sad, that.

Limerick on August 5, 2011 at 8:39 PM

We are seriously enjoying the squirm. Just sit back, take a sip of tea, rock the chair and watch.

Key West Reader on August 5, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Split the baby.

Key West Reader on August 5, 2011 at 8:45 PM

I can see the Clinton’s supporting Bayh in an effort to move the party back towards the center. And, as payback for ’08…

Gohawgs on August 5, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Gohawgs on August 5, 2011 at 8:52 PM

How? She took Barry’s flag and pranced it across the planet. How can she say “just kidding”?

Limerick on August 5, 2011 at 8:54 PM

How? She took Barry’s flag and pranced it across the planet. How can she say “just kidding”?

Limerick on August 5, 2011 at 8:54 PM

She can say she saw firsthand how terrible the obamanation’s foreign policy was/is and how she fought for other approaches, etc….She can point to tonight’s S&P’s downgrade…She can point out how irrelevant the obamanation turned out to be during the debt ceiling debate…She can point out how the debt has increase by 50% under the obamanation…And, for that effort, Bayh just might ask her to be VP…

Gohawgs on August 5, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Gohawgs on August 5, 2011 at 9:01 PM

You are talking out of your Red State brain.

Am I alone in thinking that underestimating Barry’s and the DNC’s ability to bamboozle the folks is a mistake?

Limerick on August 5, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Go Hillary. For the animated video, click on my name.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 5, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Limerick on August 5, 2011 at 9:07 PM

I’m not saying Bayh running is a given but, if he did the Clinton’s 1st inclination would be to support him…They are friends. The Clinton’s are not friends with the obamanation or Carter or with many on the socialist left…

It’d be fun to watch, regardless…

Gohawgs on August 5, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Ralph Nader?
Seriously, who gives a toss?

chumpThreads on August 5, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Ralph, the lobotomy was invented for people like you.

Not that I’m not totally with you on primarying Obama.

Really Right on August 5, 2011 at 9:14 PM

We’re counting on it, Ralphie! Don’t let us down!

Blake on August 5, 2011 at 9:17 PM

even if he was, he’d get no more Democratic votes than Sarah Palin would

Huh? What rock have you been living under? The guy was governor of Massachusetts which is probably the most liberal state in the union. LOTS of Democrats can vote for Romney.

crosspatch on August 5, 2011 at 9:42 PM

The only question, he said, is the stature of that opponent and whether it will be either “an ex-senator or an ex-governor” or “an intellectual leader or an environmental leader.”

Racists.

Seriously, though, what a useless statement from Nader. He may as well said “any warm body”.

kim roy on August 5, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Joe Manchin would do better than someone from the lunatic fringe of the Democratic Party in both the Primary and the general election not that I believe he is the conservative he leads his home state folks to think he is.

KW64 on August 5, 2011 at 10:25 PM

ManBearPig!

DocinPA on August 5, 2011 at 10:29 PM

thanks for the seat belt goodbye..

actually I’d rather die in a horrible car crash without my seat belt and walk through the pearly gate and be greeted by one of the saints, the gipper, and John Adams saying, HOO RA!

amend2 on August 5, 2011 at 11:52 PM

I second the Bayh primary nod. He’s pissed, he’s wildly popular where he’s known, and a hard-core conservative like me would vote for Bayh over Romney, T-Paw, Perry, and about a half a dozen other republicans who have declared.

But I’m a Hoosier, so I’m biased…

Claudin on August 6, 2011 at 12:50 AM

I second the Bayh primary nod

no name recognition…yeah, I know, no one ever heard of barry before 2008 either, but Bayh is not cool and black and…and cool…

jimver on August 6, 2011 at 2:16 AM

1. Feingold would pretty much be the top liberal choice to lead a challenge to Obama. For many years he stood out as basically the most liberal member of the US Senate, has strong anti-corruption credentials, he’s already been critical of Obama in the past, and is already well-known.

2. Howard Dean still has a lot of follwers and he’s kept the shell of his old campaign organization running for the last several years. Dean would have no compunction about attacking Obama. He’s pretty well-known. Obviously, his big problem is that most voters already think he’s unhinged.

3. Al Franken is out-of-the-box but still plausible. Has been very critical of Obama. Is a former comedian and would have no problem essentially heckling Obama for 6 months. Could raise serious money, especially from Hollywood. Would be the perfect protest vote primary challenger.

Robert_Paulson on August 6, 2011 at 3:25 AM

Liberals hate Bayh. Bayh has zero chance of winning a DEM party nomination.

If Bayh switched parties and ran for president from the GOP he’d actually have a darned good shot at winning the GOP nomination (RINOs would stampede to support him), or if he ran 3rd Party or as an independent he would probably become awfully competitive.

Robert_Paulson on August 6, 2011 at 3:29 AM

My “you know who” wasn’t Hillary… it was Roseannarchy, who recently jested tossed her hat in the ring as a Socialist. Heh.
Either way, neither has a chance. In the end, all we can hope for from Nader is to split the vote enough – away from Obummer.

nationspatriotcom on August 6, 2011 at 5:13 AM

I’d love to drive a Corvair up his butt.

Ugly on August 6, 2011 at 5:21 AM

How soon bfore Rush starts promoting “Liberals who care -vote Ralphy”

“He’ll do for America what he did for Winsted”

Don L on August 6, 2011 at 7:12 AM

Say, isn’t Mondale still alive?

He could run as the comeback..er…senior citizen or something/ on the anti-war wing of the DNC.

Don L on August 6, 2011 at 7:16 AM

Ralph Nader: We’re totally going to primary

call his bluff :-)

jimver on August 6, 2011 at 7:54 AM

Say, isn’t Mondale still alive?

He could run as the comeback..er…senior citizen or something/ on the anti-war wing of the DNC.

Don L on August 6, 2011 at 7:16 AM

or amend the constitution and bring Bubba back (now that will be some vote-splitting there :-)…he’s too old now for you know what, he’ll focus only on politics this time around :)….

jimver on August 6, 2011 at 8:04 AM

Ralph makes OJesus look sane.

Great.

PappyD61 on August 6, 2011 at 8:40 AM

No sir. Obama and crew not nearly enough of a disaster for Nader.

curved space on August 6, 2011 at 10:26 AM

Won’t be Russ Feingold. He’ll be running in the recall election here in Wisconsin for governor against Walker.

pdigaudio on August 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM

In the 21st century nothing says Green Party like Al Gore.

EternalVigilance on August 6, 2011 at 11:20 AM

I still say it’s a good thing to chip away at Obaka’s plaster pedestal. Do enough damage and it will crumble. Those styrofoam columns can only carry so much load.

SKYFOX on August 6, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Might not be bad career wise for some young ideological progressive to run against the One. Then if Obama loses, the lefties will have 4 years to say ‘if only we had picked the other guy’.

thuljunior on August 6, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Are there any living communists further left than Obama? Sure all the live ones talk a good game, but they don’t have to deal with the reality of DC, especially with the Tea Party on hand throwing BBA bombs and terrorizing DC with refusals to raise taxes. Oh my! Since Obama can’t declare himself dictator, as he has mused and lamented so often, he’s gone about as far left as possible given the totality of circumstances. But, I look forward to learning who is a possible replacement. It should be interesting.

JimP on August 6, 2011 at 1:14 PM

How about Algore?

tinkerthinker on August 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM

That’s my bet. Manbearpig to the rescue.

petefrt on August 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Donald Trump! (He was a registered democrat in 2001.) You could charge an admission fee to watch that race….

balkanmom on August 6, 2011 at 6:35 PM