This “new civility” sure is impressive, no?

posted at 12:05 pm on August 3, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Remember when, in the wake of the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, the Left’s commentariat blamed Tea Party “extremist rhetoric” for the violent attack that left several dead and many more wounded in Tucson?  When the national media wasn’t clucking its collective tongue over a crosshair graphic on Sarah Palin’s website (a graphic routinely used by both parties) or her “don’t retreat, reload” line, they scolded activists for using phrases like “taking back our country” as dog-whistles for massive violence — even after the shooting proved to be the work of a deranged individual whose politics had nothing to do with the Tea Party.  The media elite insisted that conservatives tone down their rhetoric in order to promote “civility” in politics.

How’s that “new civility” working out in the media?  So far, the only media voice condemning Vice President Joe Biden for calling political opponents “terrorists” is Andrew Malcolm, who delivers it with a healthy dose of snark at his colleagues:

Outrage flooding in now even from overseas over former Vice President Dick Cheney likening some opponents of President Bush’s policies and administration to “terrorists.”

Terrorists? Really? With the 10th anniversary of real terrorism coming next month. Pathetic, even for Repugnicans.

It’s the kind of over-the-top rhetorical retribution that only inflames political passions and hard feelings at a highly partisan time in the nation’s capitol. You have to expect it from the veteran Washington insider and no-holds-barred Republican enforcer who once worked for an oil industry company. …

Oh, wait. What? Oh, that’s right. It was Vice President Joe Biden who said that. And it happened during a caucus of his party’s angry Democratic House members, not Republicans.

Well, nevermind then.

Not only is the media not scolding Democrats like Biden who engage in vitriolic and entirely demagogic attacks in violent terms, the mainstream media keeps engaging in it.  For instance, here’s Chris Matthews:

“Let me finish tonight with this bad experience we’ve all just been through,” Matthews said. “What we saw — what I saw, at least, was one guy with a knife and the other trying to avoid being cut. It was a thug attacking a victim. It was a mugging.”

The New York Times’ Joe Nocera is one of four Times columnists that compares Tea Party activists to terrorists, Guy Benson points out:

No fewer than four “esteemed” Times columnists have drawn the conservatives/terrorism connection within the last two weeks: Nicholas KristofThomas Friedman,Maureen Dowd, and today’s addition from Joe Nocera (who?), whose piece is subtly entitled, “The Tea Party’s War On America:”

“You know what they say: Never negotiate with terrorists. It only encourages them. These last few months, much of the country has watched in horror as the Tea Party Republicans have waged jihad on the American people. Their intransigent demands for deep spending cuts, coupled with their almost gleeful willingness to destroy one of America’s most invaluable assets, its full faith and credit, were incredibly irresponsible. But they didn’t care. Their goal, they believed, was worth blowing up the country for, if that’s what it took.

“For now, the Tea Party Republicans can put aside their suicide vests. But rest assured: They’ll have them on again soon enough. After all, they’ve gotten so much encouragement.”

Jonah Goldberg says that while everyone who pays attention to the mainstream media understands that they have a liberal bias, this episode is so obvious as to be infuriating:

Instead imagine if this was Dick Cheney calling the Progressive Caucus (or whatever they’re called) a “bunch of terrorists” on the day Giffords returned to the Congress. Would the mainstream media notice or care? Would Meet the Press debate whether this raises “troubling questions” about the White House’s sensitivity? Would Andrea Mitchell find some way to blame Sarah Palin for Dick Cheney’s viciousness? Would Keith Olbermann explode like a mouse subjected to the Ramone’s music in Rock and Roll High School? Something inside me hidden away shouts, “Hell yes they would!”

The Today Show even had Debbie Wasserman Schultz on this morning for five minutes talking about Giffords. No one thought to ask her what she thought of Biden’s comments? It’s not like she’s the Democratic party’s national spokesperson or anything. Oh, wait. She is!

Instead, after the full ten minutes on Giffords, we get an update about the debt-limit situation (which is supposedly an Armageddon-level issue) and Kelly O’Donnell basically carries water for Biden on the issue by completely muddying whether he said anything of the sort at all. (His office says, no, no the vice president didn’t call them terrorists, he just politely agreed with all the Democratic congressmen in the room that they “acted like terrorists.” Ah, this is a distinction a team of a million Jesuits working around the clock would have a hard time slicing.)

And yet you know the next time there’s the slightest, remotely exploitable tragedy or hint of violence, the same reporters, editors, producers, and politicians are going to insist that blood was spilled because of the right wing’s rhetoric.

Well, go to Hell. All of you.

How long before Jonah gets blamed for some random act of senseless violence for that last line?  5 … 4 … 3 … 2 …

Dr. Charles Krauthammer accurately diagnosed the condition on last night’s O’Reilly Factor.  It’s what happens when the intellectually challenged lose:

But Washington Post columnist and Fox News Channel regular Charles Krauthammer said the situation is far simpler. He said instead it was a show of their “lack of intelligence” and “lack of originality.”

“Well, it certainly is a spitting and the sputtering of people who are, who’ve been deeply defeated,” Krauthammer said. “I mean, they were routed. They were up against a small minority of one half of one-third of the Congress and they got — they lost everything. They got routed. Look, this was their Agincourt, you know, Henry V outnumbered by the French, three to one. The opposition, the liberals, hold the Senate. They hold the White House. They hold the media, which had been leaking and parroting the White House line all the way through, and they still got defeated.

“I think this is sort of a pathetic response. If you have no arguments, what do you do? Ad hominems. You attack, you throw names out. But I have one slight disagreement with you [about this] being a conspiracy. I don’t think these people have the wherewithal to orchestrate a three-car motorcade. The reason for the repetition is lack of intelligence and lack of originality. These are people who are slothful.”

Despite Krauthammer’s low regard for the Tea Party’s left-wing detractors, O’Reilly insisted talking points were still circulating, which suggested a concerted effort. Krauthammer dismissed that notion.

“Look, what it means to me is you’ve got people with no intelligence, no originality, no imagination,” he said. “They are sputtering. They have lost. No arguments. What do they do? They want ad hominems. They want epithets. So, somebody uses it on the air — ‘Ah ha, that’s a good one. I’ll use it.’ I don’t credit them [with] the intelligence or the sort of, what it takes to put together a conspiracy.”

I suspect that there may be some Journolisting going on, but that might make this output even more embarrassing. It certainly would make these media outlets even more hypocritical, especially the New York Times, whose editorial board once wrote this:

This page and many others have identified those voices and called on them to stop demonizing their political opponents.

And now they use the NYT’s pages as launching pads for grossly demagogic demonization. The Times’ editors have beclowned themselves yet again and demonstrated through their partisan double standard that hackery rules at the Gray Lady.

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PatriotRider on August 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM

If being civil means sitting quietly in the passenger seat while O’dumbo drives the car off the cliff, then I think some non-civility is called for. the other point that should be made at this point, is IF you agree with an insane persons insane ideas, even a little, then you have to be insane also…here that Republicans!

rgranger on August 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM

The civility hasn’t changed because you can’t change chicken s*** into eagle s***.

Speakup on August 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM

And, if being “First” is all you got, maybe you are a little insane too :)

rgranger on August 3, 2011 at 12:11 PM

I agree with Krauthammer 100%. Liberals have now scraped the barrel for insults, and most of them are just lazy and unintelligent so they repeat what everyone else is saying.

rockmom on August 3, 2011 at 12:13 PM

The “new civility”, the same as the “old civility”.

txag92 on August 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Jonah Goldberg says that while

everyone who pays attention to the mainstream media

understands that they have a liberal bias

What about the other 99.9999% of us?

Ah, this is a distinction a team of a million Jesuits working around the clock would have a hard time slicing.

Just enjoying this one. ;)

mankai on August 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

As much as I dont like bill. He is correct on the left being organized in their talking points. I see it very often. I watched bob beckle talking a subject, using certain words, I flipped the channel to mslsd and low and behold some other talking head from the left using the same words, I went to a political web site and there, people on the left where using the same phrases. So the left is well organized. On trying to get their view points out there.
Mr K is a washington insider 100%. he is smart but he cannot see the forest from the trees at times.

ColdWarrior57 on August 3, 2011 at 12:20 PM

The disturbing part is that they are being uncivil and at the same time they bring out Gabby Giffords to display her as a lesson in Republican uncivility. And yes that is why she was there, for sympathy and trying to make the Reps looks bad. Her vote was not needed.

jeffn21 on August 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

“Let me finish tonight with this bad experience we’ve all just been through,” Matthews said. “What we saw — what I saw, at least, was one guy with a knife and the other trying to avoid being cut. It was a thug attacking a victim. It was a mugging.”

Right. Taxpayers getting mugged by the left.

Count to 10 on August 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM

As much as I dont like bill. He is correct on the left being organized in their talking points. I see it very often. I watched bob beckle talking a subject, using certain words, I flipped the channel to mslsd and low and behold some other talking head from the left using the same words, I went to a political web site and there, people on the left where using the same phrases. So the left is well organized. On trying to get their view points out there.
Mr K is a washington insider 100%. he is smart but he cannot see the forest from the trees at times.

ColdWarrior57 on August 3, 2011 at 12:20 PM

He is absolutely right! I remember when Obama took the family to Spain and Rush played media montage of probably 20 different pundits using the word “optics”, as if that is a word anyone would use for any reason, but we are to believe that they all came up with it at the exact same time, lol.

jeffn21 on August 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM

I wonder what will happen when some stoked up left wing crazy takes the liberal pundits at their words and crashes a Tea Party meet, complete with Glock. extended magazine, and malice aforethought. Will there be any soul searching then?

a capella on August 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Over at NRO Victor Davis Hanson sums up O’s passive-aggressiveness and narcissims to a T.

The country is resembling the great divides between 2004 and 2008 that broke out over Iraq. This was not supposed to happen, given the fact that Obama once talked about bringing both sides to the table, and that the Iraq war is not as contentious as it once was.

Instead, I think the reason why Obama is proving one of the most polarizing figures in memory is not the usual suspects — the Tea Party, latent racism, the Koch brother conspiracies, etc. — but rather the persona of Obama himself. He has a strange, three-step habit that has the effect of turning off both opponents and his base supporters: (a) the initial audacity-of-hope call for civility, working across the aisle, and bipartisanship in melodic cadences; (b) followed by an unleashing of a Chicago-style assault on his opponents with a wide array of martial imagery (e.g. “hostage takers,” “gun to a knife fight,” “get in their faces,” get “angry,” “kick ass,” etc.), general derision (“moats and alligators,” “back seat,” “punish our enemies”), especially aimed at the affluent (“corporate jet owners,” “millionaires and billionaires,” “those making above $200,000,” “fat-cat,” “at some point” “made enough money,” spread the wealth, redistributive change, unneeded income, etc.). That has the psychological effect of making it nearly impossible for those targeted and caricatured to eventually work out a deal with the president.

And then just when his base is fired up by such combative and confrontational red meat, Obama either votes present and hits the links during debate and argument, or drops the “don’t call my bluff” braggadocio and settles for what he can get. The common denominator here is rhetoric — Obama’s once great gift and now greater nemesis. He sounds much tougher and more divisive to enemies than his later walk back would indicate and he postures as a Chicago-style Alinsky organizer only to disappoint the faithful wanting tough action to follower tougher words.

onlineanalyst on August 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

I’m going to work very hard at highlighting Lefty hate between now and Election Day. These jackasses don’t just deserve defeat. They deserve an epic drubbing of such breadth & depth that they’re reduced to checking themselves into local psych wards, weeping over the soul-crushing obliteration of every belief they hold dear. Nothing short of total existential crisis will wake these deluded drones from their stupor.

No more Mr. Nice Guy.

OhioCoastie on August 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

I wonder what will happen when some stoked up left wing crazy takes the liberal pundits at their words and crashes a Tea Party meet, complete with Glock. extended magazine, and malice aforethought. Will there be any soul searching then?

a capella on August 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Not sure but if that happens, I hope I’m there.

VegasRick on August 3, 2011 at 12:30 PM

ColdWarrior57 on August 3, 2011 at 12:20 PM

The only thing I kind of admire about the left, they are consistent with their talking points…they beat the public to death with the same chant.
It seems each sub-group of the left takes a talking point, and carries that into every discussion, and almost every answer to most any question.

“Do you think that Reid should be proposing an alternative?”….Listen, the tea party has taken over the Republicans and want to deny basic needs to minorities, and seniors.
“What areas do you think the two sides can come together?”…Listen, the tea party has taken over the Republicans and want to deny basic needs to minorities and seniors.
“There is record heat across the nation, what do you contribute that to”…Listen, the tea party has…

right2bright on August 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

when I encountered the third outlandish ‘terrorist’ reference, I thought ‘journolist’. That’s still a possibility, but until any evidence is produced Krauthammer’s explanation is the most parsimoneous

NORUK on August 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM

This is all circumstantial evidence that “Journolist” is alive and well.

rspock on August 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM

It’s time for an all-out verbal assault against the lefties in this country using their own words against them. They’re vile and nasty. If you noticed the past few weeks, every time they were in front of a microphone, they dragged out every talking point they could (funny, they all said the same thing)against the Republicans. The Republicans spent their time on air arguing for or against the bill. It is past time to get down and dirty and use their own talking points against them.

silvernana on August 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM

As much as I dont like bill. He is correct on the left being organized in their talking points. I see it very often. I watched bob beckle talking a subject, using certain words, I flipped the channel to mslsd and low and behold some other talking head from the left using the same words, I went to a political web site and there, people on the left where using the same phrases. So the left is well organized. On trying to get their view points out there.
Mr K is a washington insider 100%. he is smart but he cannot see the forest from the trees at times.

ColdWarrior57 on August 3, 2011 at 12:20 PM

There has to be several ‘Journolists’ still in operation. Back when journolist blew up, it was also revealed that there were a few morning conference calls that took place to solidify talking points, one of them including someone from the WH.

It’s obvious that these people are being coordinated and managed.

slickwillie2001 on August 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

If being civil means sitting quietly in the passenger seat while O’dumbo drives the car off the cliff

So we should be MaryJo Kopechne to his Ted Kennedy?

disa on August 3, 2011 at 12:38 PM

And, if being “First” is all you got, maybe you are a little insane too :)

rgranger on August 3, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Aren’t we all?

PatriotRider on August 3, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Take a look here for yet another example of the left’s “new civility”: a comparison between Then and Now in cartoon form from David Fitzsimmons of the Arizona Daily Star.

Athanasius on August 3, 2011 at 12:39 PM

If they were merely differences of normal political considerations, civility might be an acceptable word to conider, but since they have followed the path recommended by a man who dedicates his books to Satan, believe in any means to an end, voice desire for a civilian army the size of the military, steal our privacy and private decisions in health care, ignore congress and judges’s rulings, deliberately steal corporations to pay off their union buddies, voice displeasure at the constitution for limiting government and kill off pre-borns as if they were gnats,and contaminate our kids and our culture with sexual depravity, I feel no compulsion to be civil toward them. They reek of evil and they openly intend to destroy our nation and our freedom. Call them what they are – fascists/ Marxists/communists/Godless heathens, whatever..

Don L on August 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM

I wonder what will happen when some stoked up left wing crazy takes the liberal pundits at their words and crashes a Tea Party meet, complete with Glock. extended magazine, and malice aforethought. Will there be any soul searching then?

a capella on August 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

I don’t know what would happen, but I know conservatives tend to have all the guns. There wouldn’t be any ‘meek victims’ in that room.

Washington Nearsider on August 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM

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ornery_independent on August 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM

It’s obvious that these people are being coordinated and managed.

slickwillie2001 on August 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

And clumsily, too. I want to see that quotation about the Tea Party not letting them spend money, and also the Congressman who said something about “if you don’t tie our hands, we’ll keep spending money” spread ALL OVER THE PLACE until November 2012.

disa on August 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Yes, the only conspiracy part the left does well is parrot each others talking points and phrases like Debbie Wassamattayou Schultz. R. Emmet Tyrrell used to call them “the Hive”.
Unfortunately the right are generally so eager to make up their own lines, they use a bunch of lame lines rather than repeat a good one.

cartooner on August 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM

The disturbing part is that they are being uncivil and at the same time they bring out Gabby Giffords to display her as a lesson in Republican uncivility. And yes that is why she was there, for sympathy and trying to make the Reps looks bad. Her vote was not needed.

jeffn21 on August 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Try looking at that Giffords thing from a different angle-here’s a brilliant take from a poster over at townhall.com:

I thought it was unbelievably ironic that after all the vile slurs thrown at TEA Party fiscal conservatives that Gabby Giffords shows up and votes YES to the very budget deal the Dems are so angry about. Civility anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Unbelievable, if you wrote this plot, no one would buy it!

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM

As much as I dont like bill. He is correct on the left being organized in their talking points. I see it very often. I watched bob beckle talking a subject, using certain words, I flipped the channel to mslsd and low and behold some other talking head from the left using the same words, I went to a political web site and there, people on the left where using the same phrases. So the left is well organized. On trying to get their view points out there.
Mr K is a washington insider 100%. he is smart but he cannot see the forest from the trees at times.

ColdWarrior57 on August 3, 2011 at 12:20 PM

My favorite example of this obvious message coordination was in 2008, right after Sarah Palin gave her RNC convention speech and mocked Obama for being a community organizer, when nearly every liberal on every cable news show used some variation of the line “well, Jesus was a community organizer!” And a week ro so later, when Obama made his infamous “lipstick on a pig” comment, they all dutifully trotted out their talking points about how that was NOT a misogynistic attack on Palin. Riiiiighht…

rockmom on August 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM

That was Krauthammer going nuclear. He might appear calm, but he knows exactly where to go to hurt those people.

1. Point out that they lost.
2. Question their intelligence.

Nothing could be more insulting and infuriating to vain ego-centric progressives.

forest on August 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Do not buy the New York Times. Give the Sulzberger family hope for a better future, where the kids learn self respect through honest labor.

MTF on August 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM

You have to admit conservative pundits are so poetic in their historical and/or literary references, liberals deal strictly in comic books.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Just take a look at Mo Dowd’s article linked in the HA Headlines. We’ve now gone from being terrorists and jihadists to, according to Dowd, vampires,cannibals, zombies, and every other kind of character in horror films. Can’t wait for the next round where we are space aliens come to earth to eat the children and puppies.

TXUS on August 3, 2011 at 12:48 PM

O’Reilly has to be the most intellectually lazy and uninformed interviewer on the planet. My dog is a deeper thinker than he is.

RadClown on August 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

You’re never going to get any civility out of them. They are the very definition of hypocrites, so don’t hold your breath.

They are what they are, and they’ve all but shouted from the mountain tops what they are, and what they want. The only question from here on out is….who will continue to listen to them, and believe them? The more people flee, how many stay to continue the madness? More are leaving…because they want no part in the hypocrisy.

capejasmine on August 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

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ornery_independent on August 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM

You’ve picked up a trojan/malware. Try and download malwarebytes to fix it.

And when you get it fixed, start using FireFox with the “no ad’s” extension.

Good luck.

Knucklehead on August 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Goldberg’s final two sentences are a textbook example of how to write a strong conclusion. As a writing prof, I’ll use it. Only I wish he had gone one step farther and said, “May you be forced to sit in on a 2 billion year long Trotskyite lecture followed by a 5000 years of spontaneous demonstrations on behalf of hell’s prolatariat after three-hour long morning jumping jacks with Stalin, Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer and, oh, how about Ty Cobb?”

MaxMBJ on August 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM

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ornery_independent on August 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Its actually cleota.nabbr.com / – the culprit for auto load crap videos here…

I load but get it as an error on page.

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM

RadClown on August 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Yeah, but both sides do it.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM

a capella on August 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Wouldn’t they be afraid that the whole placed is armed?

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Long term — especially if the Republicans win back the White House and Senate in 2012 — the scary part of this upsurge in rhetoric is once you declare your opponents to be terrorists, even if you’re just saying it to fire up the troops, don’t be surprised if down the line, some of your followers decide that if the other side is terrorists, that opens them up for any possible counter-actions.

It’s the mindset that led far left people like Bill Ayers to commit terror attacks in opposition to the U.S. government in the late 1960s and early 70s. That didn’t happen again under George W. Bush, because even the most foaming-at-the-mouth radical knew that in the wake of 9/11, even the liberal media couldn’t try to soften any terror action on U.S. soil by claiming the perpetrators were some sort of progressive freedom fighters. But the hyper-hysterical attacks Tea Party opponents have been firing over the past few weeks could pave the way for a new round of “rationalization” of domestic terrorism by the usual sources come 2013, if the left loses control of both branches of government next November.

jon1979 on August 3, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Well, go to Hell. All of you.

No matter what, please J. Goldberg, stand by your statement. It is a perfect summation of the times.

Dr. Charles Krauthammer accurately diagnosed the condition on last night’s O’Reilly Factor. It’s what happens when the intellectually challenged lose:

They are not only losing, they are embarrassed by Obama beyond recognition. They deserve no less, plus to be mocked and totally destroyed. May they implode professionally and explode otherwise.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2011 at 1:00 PM

I was just in the WaPo comment cesspool, and found one voice of sanity there, who correctly observed this:

Actually, it was O’bama who threatened to default and not pay Grandma. And then he was dumb enough to say that he was bluffing.

The Tea Party never held the detonator. Obama did.

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2011 at 1:01 PM

I think Dr. K nailed it. It doesn’t have to be a conspiracy, it is just dumb and desperate people trying to find anything, anything at all, that will sway public opinion. They have a playbook that they have used for decades and it has always worked, so they got lazy. The simplest solution is usually the correct one.

Mord on August 3, 2011 at 1:01 PM

They deserve no less, plus to be mocked and totally destroyed. May they implode professionally and explode otherwise.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Drive them before us and hear the lamentations of their women?

a capella on August 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Why does O’Reilly (or even Krauthammer, for that matter) not recognize that the TEA party representation is speaking for the “regular people,” that the TEA party is the regular people. These are the citizens who are calling a halt to runaway spending and leviathan federal government. The TEA party is middle America, tired of paying taxes for the moochers and for waste/graft.

Not everyone wanting to call a halt to expansionist federal government is marching with a formal group or gathering together in action groups. They are, however, talking among themselves, and they are disgusted. No wonder the Cut, Cap, and Balance framework had such high approval in the polls.

onlineanalyst on August 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Once again, how are the Tea Party winners? The GOP caved to the dems and Obama got everything he wanted.

flytier on August 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM

ornery_independent on August 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM

My NoScript script blocker is showing script from ooyala.com trying to load. I don’t see that software at most other HA article pages. Their homepage says they do video technology.

slickwillie2001 on August 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM

“We have negotiated with terrorists,” an angry Doyle said, according to sources in the room. “This small group of terrorists have made it impossible to spend any money.”

Nobody expects the Potomac Inquisition !!

“Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope Tea Party, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!”

J_Crater on August 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM

The horror director Brian De Palma once described the simple essence of his genre: “There is just something about a woman and a knife.” But, in this case, it was the president — and the federal government — being chased through dim corridors by a maniacal gang with big knives held high. Like Dracula’s castle, the majestic Capitol suddenly seemed forbidding, befogged not with dry ice but with the stressed-out Speaker John Boehner’s smoking. Like all great horror movies, this one existed in that surreal zone between fantasy and reality, as the Tea Party zealots created their own reality in midnight meetings.

What would this topic be without the sexual fantasies of this harpey?

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Knucklehead on August 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Tech issues aside – just spent time on various WM3 sites, per your sig link… wow, just wow.

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 1:12 PM

I was astonished as I watched the Kraut on O’Reilly repeatedly refer to the lack of intelligence of the leftwing media. He is not normally so direct and insulting.

He called them nitwits. It was awesome.

Jaibones on August 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM

America was not “civil” to King George, either….for the SAME REASON!!!

landlines on August 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Is O’Rly completely incapable of keeping his pie-hole shut while his guest is trying to make their point? Drives me crazy trying to listen to these interviews when he does this.

swash_plate on August 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM

The New York Times’ Joe Nocera is one of four Times columnists that compares Tea Party activists to terrorists

Heh. How many leftist/marxist columnists does it take to (insert punch line here)

MNHawk on August 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM

ornery_independent on August 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM
My NoScript script blocker is showing script from ooyala.com trying to load. I don’t see that software at most other HA article pages. Their homepage says they do video technology.

slickwillie2001 on August 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Its specifically the “Ron Pope” iTunes ad… poorly coded server side ad.

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Tech issues aside – just spent time on various WM3 sites, per your sig link… wow, just wow.

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 1:12 PM

They are innocent. Read Devil’s Knot for the story up till 2003, it’s horrific. Mike Huckabee even denied them a new trial. New DNA evidence points to one of the fathers as being the possible killer.

Wow is right.

Knucklehead on August 3, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Is O’Rly completely incapable of keeping his pie-hole shut while his guest is trying to make their point? Drives me crazy trying to listen to these interviews when he does this.

swash_plate on August 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM

This is why I quickly concluded that his radio show was “un-listenable,” regardless of what O’Reilly was saying: he never failed to make an a$$ out of himself.

landlines on August 3, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Yeah, but both sides do it.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM

I know but for crying out loud, I expect more from FOX than the obtuse questions and hackneyed analysis that comes out of this guy’s mouth. O’Reilly clearly has an audience, but that doesn’t mean one should expect to gain real insight on anything by watching it.

RadClown on August 3, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Good grief, the Dems/Left admit to hiring the semanticist George Lakoff to “frame” their messaging/marketing. Nothing a Dem says hasn’t been poll-tested for emotional effectiveness.

Yes, it is co-ordinated. The sympathetic media merely parrot the talking point. How many times has Rush put together a montage of the politicians and the media talking heads using the same phrasing? (At least the redundant Sean Hannity uses a thesaurus once in a while.)

How many times have we heard the word extreme used by the Lefty dunderheads in order to paint the conservatives as dangerous not to recognize coordination of talking-points effort?

onlineanalyst on August 3, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Why does O’Reilly (or even Krauthammer, for that matter) not recognize that the TEA party representation is speaking for the “regular people,” that the TEA party is the regular people.
onlineanalyst on August 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM

I think you’ve hit upon the deadly mainspring in the booby trap for the Left. The elites and the Left can’t see through the label “tea party” (because they never see through labels). In their myopic rage to label and destroy their enemy (necessary and endemic to the Left) they’re slandering millions of Americans. They can’t see this and can’t stop — and it is proving lethal for them. The feedback loop keeps returning bad feedback, which they keep ignoring. The tea party is not a party and doesn’t have a headquarters of elitist commissars on K Street. But the Left can’t conceive of the exception; they can’t conceive of a true grassroots organization not controlled by an elitist “vanguard.” Oh, the irony.

rrpjr on August 3, 2011 at 1:30 PM

RadClown on August 3, 2011 at 1:27 PM

The only thing watching O’Reilly does for me it to make me lose my valued cool. He drives me nuts.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Is O’Rly completely incapable of keeping his pie-hole shut while his guest is trying to make their point? Drives me crazy trying to listen to these interviews when he does this.

swash_plate on August 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM

The guests on Ted’s show are simply props used to highlight Bill’s brilliance. You should not care what they say.

slickwillie2001 on August 3, 2011 at 1:33 PM

What would this topic be without the sexual fantasies of this harpey?

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2011 at 1:11 PM

That column of hers is already the 4th most e-mailed NYT story.

Norcera’s Hate Speech from yesterday is #2.

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Hey BO. I hate to tell you this, but, The american people (The folks as you like to call them.) are the TP. GEEZ

derft on August 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM

This was my favorite bit from K, and echoes my sentiments.

But I have one slight disagreement with you [about this] being a conspiracy. I don’t think these people have the wherewithal to orchestrate a three-car motorcade.

I think some commenters here give the MSM far too much credit for “organizing the message”. Parrots are not “organized”.

connertown on August 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM

And now they use the NYT’s pages as launching pads for grossly demagogic demonization. The Times’ editors have beclowned themselves yet again and demonstrated through their partisan double standard that hackery rules at the Gray Lady.

This is gold….
Great post and right on target.

Let’s remember what the liberal messiah said about “partisan rhetoric” in his Tuscon speech:
http://tucsoncitizen.com/tc-blog/2011/01/12/citizen-coverage-of-giffords-shooting-memorials/

“But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized – at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do – it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.

let’s remember that it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy, but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to our challenges as a nation, in a way that would make them proud.”

Obama January,2011


….democrat….heal thyself.

Baxter Greene on August 3, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Knucklehead on August 3, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Interesting about Huck. In his “semi pardon” – he claimed technicality’s and the “process” for the failure of releasing Clemmons, yet didnt see any discrepencies in this case???

So – is Dec 2011 the motion to hear the retrial???

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 1:48 PM

This just in: The MSM is irreparably biased and hypocritical.

Carry on.

MJBrutus on August 3, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Is O’Rly completely incapable of keeping his pie-hole shut while his guest is trying to make their point? Drives me crazy trying to listen to these interviews when he does this.

swash_plate on August 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Have you noticed that Laura Ingraham has taken on these same annoying characteristics?

silvernana on August 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Weak sauce from Chuck.
Palin’s lengthy comments to Hannity last night were far stronger. That’s become a trend, no?

james23 on August 3, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Its specifically the “Ron Pope” iTunes ad… poorly coded server side ad.

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Thank you for pulling that ad HA.

If you need any additional free help for your paid advertising network, that takes 3 minutes to identify – I’m your man…

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Of course the MSM loves this bigoted hatred that they show towards anyone that is not a liberal.
Look at the recently crowned CBS correspondent Norah O’donnell’s history of idiotic incivility:

Those Who Oppose Ground Zero Mosque are Like 9/11 Terrorists
http://www.breitbart.tv/msnbc-host-those-who-oppose-ground-zero-mosque-are-like-911-terrorists/

….and the typical race card played by CBS’s great new addition:

“I See Racists”: MSNBC Moron Norah O’Donnell Mocked by Morning Joe Colleagues for Her “All Black People Are Good Athletes, So Newt Gingrich Is a Racist”

Let’s whip out that racism card again… Left-wing Barbie-doll moron correspondent Norah O’Donnell stepped in it so deep — trying to make another absurd, bogus racist connection with a comment that former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich made in an SRLC speech about “we need a president, not an athlete” — that even her liberal news colleagues on the Morning Joe show laughed at her this past week at MSNBC.


“All black people are good athletes,” says O’Donnell.

Apparently she has never seen Obama throw a baseball or Oprah run the 100 yard dash……..

…….See,you don’t have to know a dam# thing to get ahead in the MSM….you only have to shake those pom pom’s for democrats and demonize their political opponents.

Baxter Greene on August 3, 2011 at 2:06 PM

the Tea Party Republicans have waged jihad on the American people.

Wait a sec. I thought that “jihad”, according to the left, simply meant “inner struggle”. Are they now conceding that when Muslims speak of jihad they’re actually plotting conquest?

KGB on August 3, 2011 at 2:06 PM

I wonder what will happen when some stoked up left wing crazy takes the liberal pundits at their words and crashes a Tea Party meet, complete with Glock. extended magazine, and malice aforethought. Will there be any soul searching then?

a capella on August 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

There’s a lot of TEA Party folks that have concealed carry permits and they practice. That perpertrator would probably end up with 180 holes in him.

Vince on August 3, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Interesting about Huck. In his “semi pardon” – he claimed technicality’s and the “process” for the failure of releasing Clemmons, yet didnt see any discrepencies in this case???

So – is Dec 2011 the motion to hear the retrial???

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Huckabee went right along with the “they were satanic killings”.

Let’s hope that hearing is in December. Read the book then follow the updates. Looks like Berlinger and Sinofsky (HBO) are bringing out part 3 of their documentary this month.

The police never interviewed the parents and DNA now points to Terry Hobb’s, father of one of the victims. The WM3 were all tried as adults.

Knucklehead on August 3, 2011 at 2:09 PM

O’Reilly has to be the most intellectually lazy and uninformed interviewer on the planet. My dog is a deeper thinker than he is.

RadClown on August 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

He is an embarrassment at times but why does he have so many viewers?

Vince on August 3, 2011 at 2:11 PM

He is an embarrassment at times but why does he have so many viewers?

Vince on August 3, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Well, on the West Coast, we get him at 5 pm, when there is nothing else on.

I do appreciate that he isn’t afraid to air voices from both sides of the aisle.

John the Libertarian on August 3, 2011 at 2:13 PM

I think some commenters here give the MSM far too much credit for “organizing the message”. Parrots are not “organized”.

connertown on August 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM

As the “journolist” scandal proved – they are fully capable and willing to organize and propagandize for progressivism.

Rebar on August 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM

So what about Gabby Giffords? She’s incapacitated, and negatively effecting the financial health of the country. What has to happen to get her out of congress?

Is there a process? A reading for comprehension test or some minimum standard competency that must be met in order to maintain membership in congress?

Since niceties are out the window, her situation is sad and tragic, but no more so than a career ending injury for a professional athelete.
Are we supposed to ignore reality so as to humor supposed Democratic standards of decor?

papertiger on August 3, 2011 at 2:52 PM

what I saw, at least, was one guy with a knife and the other trying to avoid being cut. It was a thug attacking a victim. It was a mugging.

The mugging is what Uncle Sam does to taxpayers. The “victim” that was being slashed was, in this case, a budget.

Of course, Chrissy doesn’t get that the “cuts” made in this deal mean more money for federal programs next year.

hawksruleva on August 3, 2011 at 3:02 PM

See,you don’t have to know a dam# thing to get ahead in the MSM….you only have to shake those pom pom’s for democrats and demonize their political opponents.

Baxter Greene on August 3, 2011 at 2:06 PM

See Economics Major Contessa Brewer!

Speaking of Breitbart:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/08/03/huffington-post-forced-to-issue-retraction-apology-after-falsely-accusing/

The story was ultimately removed from the website and an editor’s note was posted saying that, “a viewing of the clip in question clearly shows that he did not. We regret the error, have removed the story, and apologize to Mr. Breitbart.”

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Thanks for the link:

Ah, yes – another liberal dolt who is pissing off her own base – namely the free writer issue.

Unfortunately – liberals are too dumb to know when they are cannabilizing themselves… oh wait – didnt she just write about that???

Best part from Breitbart “want to start a war dahling”…

Too funny.

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Best part from Breitbart “want to start a war dahling”…

Too funny.

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM

She gets allergic smelling hay!

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Beclowners gona beclown

rickyricardo on August 3, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Nicely put together, Ed.

Also, good closing paragraph.

jaime on August 3, 2011 at 3:49 PM

“Well, it certainly is a spitting and the sputtering of people who are, who’ve been deeply defeated,” Krauthammer said. “I mean, they were routed. They were up against a small minority of one half of one-third of the Congress and they got — they lost everything. They got routed.”

More doubletalk from Kraut. After telling us for weeks that we couldn’t do very much because we only hold one-half of one-third of government, he’s now saying we routed the dems, causing them to lose everything, with only one-half of one-third of government.

xblade on August 3, 2011 at 5:23 PM

[Krauthammer said]: “…But I have one slight disagreement with you [about this] being a conspiracy. I don’t think these people have the wherewithal to orchestrate a three-car motorcade. The reason for the repetition is lack of intelligence and lack of originality. These are people who are slothful.”

Despite Krauthammer’s low regard for the Tea Party’s left-wing detractors, O’Reilly insisted talking points were still circulating, which suggested a concerted effort.

Using talking points and a coordinated effort does not exclude “lack of intelligence and lack of originality”.

JimC on August 3, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Somewhere in the wilderness a voice cries out; “Dissent is patriotic”. Hillary where are you when we need you?

Herb on August 3, 2011 at 7:45 PM

The New York Times’ Joe Nocera is one of four Times columnists that compares Tea Party activists to terrorists, Guy Benson points out:

Wait. Didn’t I read something similar from csdeven?

Except it wasn’t tea party types who were like terrorists. It was … let me see now … Palin supporters!

No matter who engages in it, it’s a metaphor beyond rationality.

didymus on August 3, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Best part from Breitbart “want to start a war dahling”…

Too funny.

Odie1941 on August 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM

She gets allergic smelling hay!

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Breitbart is a national treasure, we need a dozen more like him.

slickwillie2001 on August 3, 2011 at 9:04 PM