Boehner on debt deal: All leaders have a responsibility to make sure this passes

posted at 4:40 pm on August 1, 2011 by Tina Korbe

At a press conference this afternoon, House Speaker John Boehner said the leaders of both parties who privately agreed to the latest debt ceiling deal have a responsibility to make sure the bill passes. In general, Republican leadership sounded confident the deal will pass the House (and in a post-press-conference interview GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann, who plans to vote “no” on the deal, also said she expects the bill to pass).

But top House Republicans still sounded anxious to make the case for the poorly-received compromise to their conservative base. The deal represents an important directional change, they said — and tees up the fights over potential tax increases and a balanced budget amendment to come.

“When you look at what we’ve been able to achieve, we’ve been consistent,” Boehner said. “We’ve worked with our members and the American people, who have a real interest in ensuring that we don’t end up in this position again. … This is really important for our fiscal future, but it’s also important for the fact that our economy needs to get going. [We think this will lead to] more confidence for employers in America, the people we expect to reinvest in the economy.”

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor echoed Boehner in his support for the bill. Cantor also emphasized a cultural shift in the country and reiterated his opposition to tax hikes.

“By sending to Congress 87 new people, the American people have … changed the direction this country’s headed,” Cantor said. “From Day 1, this administration has been insisting that we raise taxes in order to solve this problem. … I think the big win here for us is that there are no tax hikes in this deal. I insist again that now is not the time for us to be considering tax hikes when there’s over 9 percent unemployment and too many people are out of work.”

Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy, too, said the bill represents a change.

“What a difference a year makes,” McCarthy said. “A year ago, Washington thought we needed more spending. … This bill does not give all the answers, but this bill does bring accountability. This does bring in spending controls. This does cut spending. It does not increase it. … This represents a fundamental change for this government, a fundamental change for this country.”

Budget Committee Chariman Paul Ryan reminded listeners of the distance traveled over the course of the negotiations.

“Think about where we were at the beginning of this process,” Ryan said. “We had a president asking for a blank check: He didn’t get that. We had a president who asked for tax increases: He didn’t get that. We said we wanted cuts: We got that. … We couldn’t even get caps on discretionary spending the last time Republicans were in the majority: We got that. We’ve got a long ways to go. This does not fix our problems, but the value of this Republican majority was to change the culture … in spending and that’s exactly what this bill does.”

 

 


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Midas on August 1, 2011 at 5:38 PM

This should be shoved into every person here who backs this bills face.

This bill is worse than “Default”. Our credit rating is going down no matter what. Our stock markets are being propped up by “funny money” and yet the retards give odumbass another 2.8 to spend and get nothing in return.

MadDogF on August 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM

We said we wanted cuts: We got that.

No, you didn’t. Reduction in the rate of increase, such that spending does actually increase, is not a ‘cut’, sir.[...]

Midas on August 1, 2011 at 5:38 PM

What are you, some kind of extremist hobbit? Do you really expect politicians to tell the truth? That’s nuts!

FloatingRock on August 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM

What are you, some kind of extremist hobbit? Do you really expect politicians to tell the truth? That’s nuts!

FloatingRock on August 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM

I think I’ve decided on ‘teahobbitist’, though I’m still toying with it a bit.

Midas on August 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Chip on August 1, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Well, Chip there is no other conclusion. I know if I applied this line of thinking and implemented this with my finances what would happen. All of my assets would be mortgaged and when I couldn’t pay or borrow anymore, the assets would be sold to pay my debts. Then I’d be on the street with a tin cup begging and still have judgements against me.
Not a pretty picture, but insane as well.

In my case, my family would have me committed to save me from my insanity, LOL

bluefox on August 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM

We need one of the freshman to be majority leader! We need to protest Boehner and McConnell until they leave!
Phone calls, emails, Tea Party rallies… all targeting the removal of Boehner and McConnell! We need a new generation of leaders! We need GOP leaders who have clean hands!

JellyToast on August 1, 2011 at 5:55 PM

WINNING!

/sarc (because I think the sarc tag is needed around here these days.)

j_galt on August 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Budget Committee Chariman Paul Ryan reminded listeners of the distance traveled over the course of the negotiations.

Yeah, we all fell another 2.1 trillion dollars deeper into the abyss.

JellyToast on August 1, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Meh. The GOP had incredible leverage *now*, right freaking *now* and didn’t use it. Squared off against a WH and Senate that weren’t doing their jobs, the House ran into some unfavorable press and wilted, pure and simple. ***
Midas on August 1, 2011 at 5:46 PM

No, the GOP had leverage a few weeks ago. Boehner negotiated poorly and allowed Obama to split him off from his base. Now we have less leverage. Had we told them “CC&B or default,” Obama would have blamed the GOP, started withholding social security or military pay checks, and the pressure on the GOP to arrive at a deal would have been unbearable.

Best thing to do is sign off on this stupid thing and fight for the Balanced Budget Amendment, which in my opinion is the only truly viable answer.

Outlander on August 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM

pedestrian on August 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM

You don’t think if this passes that the chances of losing the House is great? And if we don’t win the W.H. in 2012 and B.O. is re-elected, that the chances are greater that we lose the House?

John Boehner is responsible for what he has done and is doing. However, each member of the House is responsible for their vote.

The Republican House will be held accountable for their vote.

bluefox on August 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Half the cuts from our military and half from domestic? What we spend on defense is miniscule compared to Domestic. Our military will be gutted!

[JellyToast on August 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM]

Here’s an explanation if the Committee can’t come up with cuts from Keith Hennessey:

Example: Suppose the Joint Committee process fails completely and no law enacts new deficit reduction this fall. Just s’pose.

The trigger then must cut spending by $1.2 T over ten (actually, nine) years. Here are the mechanics of how those spending cuts are allocated.

* First back out interest savings (18% of the total, or $216 B). That leaves $984 B of spending cuts.
* Spread that out evenly over nine years. That means cut spending by $109 B per year for each of FY13 – FY21.
* Split that $109 B evenly between (defense) and (nondefense + some mandatory). So each category takes about a $55 B hit in each of the next nine years.
* That would result in about a $54 B cut in defense discretionary spending in FY13.
* The other $55 B in spending cuts gets applied to (nondefense discretionary + Medicare + some other entitlements). But the cut to Medicare is capped at 2%.
* The result of this is that nondefense discretionary and these other entitlements would take about an 8% cut.

Therefore:

* Defense discretionary spending would be $546 B if the Committee hits its target, and about $492 B if the Committee fails entirely. That’s 10% less, a $54 B cut in defense discretionary spending in 2013.
* Nondefense discretionary spending would be $501 B if the Committee hits its target, and about $461 B if the Committee fails entirely. That’s 8% less, a $40 B cut in nondefense discretionary spending in 2013.
* Medicare spending would be cut 2% in 2013.
* Farm programs and a few other entitlements would be cut 8% in 2013.

Dusty on August 1, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Speaking of sarq, Mark Levin is giving you know what to Boehner and McConnell, so great!!

bluefox on August 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM

that should be sarc. Can’t type well on this laptop!!

bluefox on August 1, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Additionally – since you’re comparing this to turning a ship – well, every ship I’ve been on has been able to complete any turn it set out to in considerably less than “decades”.

HondaV65 on August 1, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Let’s see, how can I be gentle…this was an analogy, not a direct comparison to an actual ship. You see a ship in in water, and the government is up to it’s neck in water…wait, that just an analogy also, there really isn’t any water like that in congress, just kind of a comparison.
You see, and this is difficult for someone like you, but when you have a policy that has been entrenched for decades, upon decades (a decade is 10 years), since the 1920′s, then it takes a lot of time and effort to change that course.
It has taken close to a hundred years to get here, we don’t change it in 8 months…that is what I was trying to get across, not that it is just like an actual boat.
We keep hammering, and re-making the party…something a third party has never been able to accomplish.
And no, I don’t mean use an actual hammer, that also is just a metaphor/analogy…

right2bright on August 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM

Dusty on August 1, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Who does these cuts? Who will be on the committee? The Bush tax cuts are gone! 2.1 trillion more in debt! It’s all crap!

I take back all the nice things I never said about Boehner!
All they freaking care about is not being blamed! The whole country can go to hell as long as they don’t get blamed for it!

Where was the leadership from our side? It came from freshman! I repeat. Boehner and McConnell are the Paul von Hindenburgs of our time!

What would have been bad about even defending a 1% cut? A 1% cut? Or a freeze on spending? Just a freeze? It would have been the least best argument! I would love to have seen the Democrats go ballistic over an offer to just freeze spending for a year! Or to just cut programs by a measly 1%? Would that have been so hard?! Could they not have even done that? Do they seriously think the public would not have sup[ported a stinking measly freeze in spending?
Where were the commercials to educate the public on what was going on? Or on their positions? What the heck are they doing in the NRC? Are they just sitting on the money?
Oh, I know, they need to the money to go for certain elections.. it can’t possible be used to save our economy! That’s not good enough! Spending money to push an agenda.. to balance a budget or win a cause is not as important as lining someone war chest!

What was CCB? It was a freaking bone thrown out to us that they never intended to defend or push beyond the House!

Our problems lie within our own party! Our problems have a face! it is the face of Boehnor and McConnell and any of the other aging out of touch worthless compromising dinosaurs!

JellyToast on August 1, 2011 at 6:29 PM

(and in a post-press-conference interview GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann, who plans to vote “no” on the deal, also said she expects the bill to pass).

There’s no courage in voting no if you know it will pass anyway and you don’t have to deal with the consequences of your vote.

Another 2.4 or 2.8 trillion is insane, but could we really get around that given the Dems control of the Senate and Obama as POTUS? I think not.

They still don’t have a 2012 budget, except for Paul Ryan’s, that should be the bigger concern.

We just need to survive until the election and work hard to get more Tea Party-minded people into Congress.

Common Sense on August 1, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Chip on August 1, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Well, Chip there is no other conclusion. I know if I applied this line of thinking and implemented this with my finances what would happen. All of my assets would be mortgaged and when I couldn’t pay or borrow anymore, the assets would be sold to pay my debts. Then I’d be on the street with a tin cup begging and still have judgements against me.
Not a pretty picture, but insane as well.

In my case, my family would have me committed to save me from my insanity, LOL

bluefox on August 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM

We can take care of a few people that are insane, but a few million.

I really wish that one of the Leftists around here could explain how there possibly could be another conclusion – that we don’t have a political party that by all outward appearances is ‘round the bend Insane.

Chip on August 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Vote in enough Tea Party candidates and this whole line of masterpiece theater, goes away.

Or set up an electronic list of qualified people and randomly select, they serve four years and out.

Can’t be any worse than people willing to compromise in hell about how hot to make the flames.

Speakup on August 1, 2011 at 6:54 PM

By the way…In a poll released on August 1st, 2011, gallup.com reported:

Americans’ political ideology at the midyear point of 2011 looks similar to 2009 and 2010, with 41% self-identifying as conservative, 36% as moderate, and 21% as liberal.

If this pattern continues, 2011 will be the third straight year that conservatives significantly outnumber moderates — the next largest ideological bloc. Liberalism has been holding steady for the past six years, averaging either 21% or 22%, although notably higher than the 17% average seen in Gallup polling during the early to middle ’90s.

No wonder the Liberals, the Main Stream Media, and the Vichy Republicans have been vilifying the Tea Party Movement during the Debt Ceiling Negotiations.

We (Conservatives) outnumber them.

kingsjester on August 1, 2011 at 6:59 PM

You don’t think if this passes that the chances of losing the House is great?

bluefox on August 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM

If people vote for a Democrat House after seeing what has happened since 2008, we are well and truly over.

pedestrian on August 1, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Boehner on debt deal: All leaders have a responsibility to make sure this passes

And I have a responsibility to make sure you NEVER return to DC, you ass!

jbh45 on August 1, 2011 at 7:20 PM

No wonder the Liberals, the Main Stream Media, and the Vichy Republicans have been vilifying the Tea Party Movement during the Debt Ceiling Negotiations.

We (Conservatives) outnumber them.

kingsjester on August 1, 2011 at 6:59 PM

The behavior of the MSM AND the Vichy Republicans has removed all doubt, if there was any doubt yet reserved, about where their CYA interests lie. What we have here is a chasm wide gulf that seems to drift further and further from a bridgeable closure.

Geochelone on August 1, 2011 at 8:06 PM

“All leaders have a responsibility to make sure this passes”
Boehner is a MORON!

Our nation’s politicians duty/responsibility was NOT just to ensure that the US does not default on its obligations but also to PREVENT THE DOWNGRADE OF OUR AAAA RATING! They have all FAILED! Even as they continue to rally to get the votes to pass this deal, those with the power to make the downgrade happen are declaring ‘The MOMENT you all pass this bill, you will be downgraded’. $4 Trillion in cuts is what we were told is what it would have taken to prevent the downgrade – that should have been the absolute MINIMUM for a starting point for negotiations regarding a debt ceiling raise. Boehner entered the FY 11 budget cut 11th-hour discussions with Obama, came out declaring hundreds of billions in cuts, and when the smoke cleared the truth was he only secured $500 MILLION in cuts. Obama handed him his arse THEN and is doing so again NOW! The GOP should absolutely sign NO BILL unless it contains the Balanced Budget Ammendment agreement. Even if they do not get any cuts to the budget, they HAVE to walk away with THIS agreement to elminate out-of-control record-setting deficit-spending by this Socialist Administration that says limiting government spending to what it takes in (Balanced Budget Ammendment) is the ‘worst piece of legislation that has ever been submitted’! If that doesn’t tell you that Obama and the Democrats don’t give a d@mn about this country, NOTHING ever will!

easyt65 on August 1, 2011 at 8:40 PM

If people vote for a Democrat House after seeing what has happened since 2008, we are well and truly over.

pedestrian on August 1, 2011 at 7:04 PM

This is the problem with politics being “local”. They may hate Congress, but they love their congresscritter. The majority in this (dying) city where I live always vote Democrat. Doesn’t matter how bad things get. They’re too stupid to make the connection and too addicted to “gubmint cheese”.

Extrafishy on August 2, 2011 at 6:18 AM

Yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah, effing blah, blah.

There, I think I made as much sense as you and your fellow dingbats Johnny.

devolvingtowardsidiocracy on August 2, 2011 at 7:14 AM

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