Quotes of the day

posted at 8:45 pm on July 30, 2011 by Allahpundit

“There is no changing how Washington works. It doesn’t.

“Even if a bitterly divided Congress and President Barack Obama avoid a U.S. debt default by striking a last-second deal, as all sides expect, plenty of damage has been done.

“People are disgusted. Confidence in the political system is tanking. Nothing else is getting done in Washington. The markets are spooked. The global reputation of the United States has slipped.

“And the real kicker? This whole wrenching effort to shrink the debt may actually increase the debt.”

***
“‘Every day we wake up and think that stocks will send a shock up to Capitol Hill. And every day nothing happens,’ the source said.

“He’s still holding out hope for a panic sell-off at the end of the day.

“‘It’s the only thing that’s going to bring everyone together on this,’ he said.”

***
“Hundreds of readers wrote to CNNMoney saying how much they depend on Social Security payments to keep a roof over their heads, food on the table and medicine in their cabinet. Even a one-month delay could wreak havoc on their lives, not to mention send their stress levels soaring.

“Libby Rowe already knows how she’ll use her Aug. 3 Social Security disability check, which comes to about $1,000. She needs it to pay the mortgage and utility bills. If it doesn’t arrive, she won’t be able to put gas in her car and will have to cut back on groceries…

“‘I don’t know how anyone with a conscience can let our country get to this state just to make a point,’ said [Jeani] Crowe, who lives on a farm outside Fallon, Nev.”

***
“I find myself less interested in ‘life on this planet as we know it today’ than in life on this planet as we’re likely to know it tomorrow if Nancy Pelosi and her chums decline to reacquaint themselves with reality. If you kinda dig life on this planet as you know it, ask yourself this: What’s holding the joint up? As the old gag goes, if you owe the bank a thousand dollars, you have a problem; if you owe the bank a million dollars, the bank has a problem. If you owe the banks 15,000,000,000,000 dollars, the planet has a problem. Whatever comparisons one might make with Europe’s soi-disant ‘PIIGS’ re debt per capita or deficit-to-GDP ratio, the sheer hard numbers involved represent a threat to the planet that Portugal or Ireland does not. It also represents a threat to Americans…

“America has had two roles in a so-called ‘globalized’ world: America’s government was the guarantor of global order; America’s economy was the engine of global prosperity. Right now, both roles are up for grabs. And there are no takers for the former. Pace Nancy Pelosi, ‘life on this planet as we know it today’ is going to change, and very fast.”

***
“Look, the parties are not that far apart here. We’re in rough agreement on how much spending we need to cut to reduce our deficit. We agree on a process to tackle tax reform and entitlement reform. There are plenty of ways out of this mess. But there is very little time.”

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Bet Bambi is in the 30s by next week.

andy85719 on July 30, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Marco Rubio schooling John Kerry…awesome.

SouthernGent on July 30, 2011 at 8:48 PM

“Lack of leadership” – D. Obama.

Electrongod on July 30, 2011 at 8:48 PM

If your life depends on gov’t…

artist on July 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

If your life depends on gov’t…

artist on July 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Then you have sacrificed too much.

Electrongod on July 30, 2011 at 8:50 PM

“Hundreds of readers wrote to CNNMoney saying how much they depend on Social Security payments to keep a roof over their heads, food on the table and medicine in their cabinet. Even a one-month delay could wreak havoc on their lives, not to mention send their stress levels soaring.

“Libby Rowe already knows how she’ll use her Aug. 3 Social Security disability check, which comes to about $1,000. She needs it to pay the mortgage and utility bills. If it doesn’t arrive, she won’t be able to put gas in her car and will have to cut back on groceries…

“‘I don’t know how anyone with a conscience can let our country get to this state just to make a point,’ said [Jeani] Crowe, who lives on a farm outside Fallon, Nev.”

We’ll hear thousands of stories like this whenever there is any effort to fix Social Security. Nevermind that the whole damned thing’s going to collapse as is.

America is screwed.

Hawkins1701 on July 30, 2011 at 8:51 PM

If your life depends on gov’t…

artist on July 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

If your life depends on the partial enslavement of other peoples children…

astonerii on July 30, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Look, the parties are not that far apart here.

So what else is new? Borrowing, spending, printing, fear-mongering, assaults on our Constitutional rights, big government, corporatism, and endless wars.

Go team!

***

And as I and many other financially literate economics observers have pointed out, a failure to raise the debt ceiling has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with default… The mainstream commentators have it backwards again, as it is raising the debt ceiling that makes the prospect of sovereign default more likely, not leaving it in place.

Rae on July 30, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Nevermind that the whole damned thing’s going to collapse as is.

America is screwed.

Hawkins1701 on July 30, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Yup.

Some won’t like this but think Israel/Palestinians without the violence.

The R world and D world CANNOT co-exist.

What more evidence do people need?

How about an amicable divorce?

artist on July 30, 2011 at 8:55 PM

“‘I don’t know how anyone with a conscience can let our country get to this state just to make a point,’ said [Jeani] Crowe, who lives on a farm outside Fallon, Nev.”

Meet the American electorate.

“If a Nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be…. If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed.” – Jefferson

Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 8:58 PM

“People are disgusted. Confidence in the political system is tanking. Nothing else is getting done in Washington. The markets are spooked. The global reputation of the United States has slipped.

I’m waiting for a Chris Matthews or some other tool to start wondering out loud if it isn’t time to end divided government. We’ve had the “We’re All Socialists Now” headline. We’ve had ramblings about how capitalism doesn’t work and all. It can’t be long until we hear “Is divided government the problem?”

JellyToast on July 30, 2011 at 8:59 PM

The 2012 election wont get here soon enough to save this country will it?

Pity. I thought the Founders had a good thing going.

Yakko77 on July 30, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Give the progs the NE and half of the Waste Coast. Let them figure out how to support their entitled base while the rest of us go back to the American dream

Hening on July 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM

“People are disgusted. Confidence in the political system Obama and his Democrats is tanking. Nothing else is getting done in Washington due to Obama and his Democrats. The markets are spooked. The global reputation of the United States has slipped because of Obama and his Democrats.

I fixed it.

JellyToast on July 30, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Ok I’ll see your raise and call you . What do hou got OBammy? Me thinks your bluffin I do.

sonnyspats1 on July 30, 2011 at 9:02 PM

2012 can’t come soon enough.

unseen on July 30, 2011 at 9:02 PM

“He’s still holding out hope for a panic sell-off at the end of the day.

How does this Chaos benefit the political elite and those they answer to? Someone is making money off this chaos, that is why they do what they do. What is Vann Jones’ net worth nowadays?

So anyway – what’s happening with Obama’s operation “Fast & Furious”? No Mr. President we are not going to forget or be distracted by your financial chaos while you try to take away our second amendment rights.

batterup on July 30, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Look, the parties are not that far apart here. We’re in rough agreement on how much spending we need to cut to reduce our deficit.

(Zero)

fossten on July 30, 2011 at 9:02 PM

and this is how great nations die

unseen on July 30, 2011 at 9:03 PM

OT: The AP is in full throttle against Perry now:

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Saturday he supports a federal limit on gay marriage and thinks a creator put life on Earth.
[snip]
Perry, 61, said social issues should be decided state by state and even remarked that New York’s passage of gay marriage law was that state’s business. Still, he said he would support a constitutional amendment that takes away the power of the states to decide who can get married.

“Yes, sir, I would. I am for the federal marriage amendment,” he said. “And that’s about as sharp a point as I could put on it.”

Perry has used more than words to support tempering evolution taught in schools with creationism.

This month, he appointed a biology teacher who disputes evolution as chairwoman of the Texas State Board of Education. In 2009, that 15-member board put the national spotlight on Texas in a debate that led to adopting standards encouraging schools to look at “all sides” of scientific theory. It now is considering educational materials that promote intelligent design even though a federal court ruled against teaching the theory that life on Earth is so complex that it must have come from an intelligent higher power.

Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 9:04 PM

When it’s the Democrat’s fault they blame Republicans.
When it’s the Democrat’s fault they blame both parties.
When it’s the Democrat’s fault they blame capitalism.
When it’s the Democrat’s fault they blame the markets.
When it’s the Democrat’s fault, they blame anything and anyone and everyone other than the Democrats.

JellyToast on July 30, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Let’s move to Brasil. I hear the women are incredible and the economy is great.

carbon_footprint on July 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Government should rely on the voluntary subjugation of its citizens to provide it the resources to accomplish those things its citizens granted the power to accomplish in the Constitution which created it.

Anyone think that is where we are today? Voluntarily subjugating ourselves to a benevolent government that is working within the limits imposed upon it?

No, we have long since become indentured servants to the government. fully 20% or more of our work is spent providing nothing more than bribe money for voter constituencies.

astonerii on July 30, 2011 at 9:11 PM

We’re so screwed.!This is what passes for leadership by a President? Lord help us if he wins a second term…

sandee on July 30, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 9:04 PM

That’s nothing. You should see the stuff they come with about Nikki Haley.

SouthernGent on July 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Let’s move to Brasil. I hear the women are incredible and the economy is great.

carbon_footprint on July 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Yeah, and a country called America is helping them out.
Brazil or Bust.

Electrongod on July 30, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Men decide far more problems by hate, love, lust, rage, sorrow, joy, hope, fear, illusion, or some other inward emotion, than by reality, authority, any legal standard, judicial precedent, or statute.
Cicero

unseen on July 30, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Are we allowed to put him on trial for treason?

Vegi on July 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Everyone in D.C. has a theory about this. Some believe the market is sending a message that a deal will get done. Others think the market doesn’t understand politics.

LOL! The people who are totally lost in the fictional MSM narrative don’t have a clue what’s going on while the rest of the world, who isn’t caught in the MSM miasma, just sees through all of the obvious fear mongering. If the US government cuts spending by 40%, why should the rest of the world care? I mean, aside from all the international welfare we send them….

FloatingRock on July 30, 2011 at 9:17 PM

“If a Nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be…. If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed.” – Jefferson

Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Cuts to the very heart of the matter. This is why we are in this mess. There is no other reason. An informed electorate would have been well beyond outrage (for the right reasons) decades ago.

Kataklysmic on July 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM

As the old proverb says “Like readily consorts with like.”
Cicero

unseen on July 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM

The moral of the story?

The Grand Marxist Experiment was a Bust

faraway on July 30, 2011 at 9:19 PM

If the US government cuts spending by 40%, why should the rest of the world care? I mean, aside from all the international welfare we send them….

FloatingRock on July 30, 2011 at 9:17 PM

they should care because the responding economic boom that the USa would experience would forever place the USA as the world leader.

unseen on July 30, 2011 at 9:20 PM

That’s nothing. You should see the stuff they come with about Nikki Haley.

SouthernGent on July 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Do share. I saw a headline the other day about her defending the confederate flag on the state capitol? I can only imagine the vitriol.

Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM

If your life depends on the partial enslavement of other peoples children…

astonerii on July 30, 2011 at 8:52 PM

I’ve paid about $200K (ballpark) into it so far… don’t recall the the exact number, but it’s not trivial. Do you want to cut me a lump sum check, with compound interest at money market rates — I won’t even ask for Dow or S&P kinds of numbers — and we’ll call it a day.

That’s why some boomers are so danged sensitive about it — it’s their money that they simply want back. That’s all…

MedicCare & MedicAid are a totally different story…

OnlyOrange on July 30, 2011 at 9:22 PM

Jane. Get me off this crazy train

cmsinaz on July 30, 2011 at 9:22 PM

Kataklysmic on July 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM

The only way to address it IMO, is to keep the alternative media free and expansive; gut federal involvement in public education and get education back in the hands of parents — either charter schools, private schools with vouchers or home schooling. Government schools are a big part of the problem.

Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 9:25 PM

That’s why some boomers are so danged sensitive about it — it’s their money that they simply want back. That’s all…

MedicCare & MedicAid are a totally different story…

OnlyOrange on July 30, 2011 at 9:22 PM

If boomers would accept no more COLAs and recuse themselves from ANY involvement in the debate over reforms for those of us under under 50 — reforms that will NEVER affect you, fine. Keep your SS. I understand you paid; we’ve all paid. But some of us will never see any of it. I just want out.

Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 9:28 PM

I hope the GOP is ready for a bare knuckled beating come 2012. The Tea Party did what it could to bring conservatism back to D.C. Instead, we were lied to.

This time, it’s personal.

madmonkphotog on July 30, 2011 at 9:30 PM

“Libby Rowe already knows how she’ll use her Aug. 3 Social Security disability check, which comes to about $1,000. She needs it to pay the mortgage and utility bills. If it doesn’t arrive, she won’t be able to put gas in her car and will have to cut back on groceries…
“‘I don’t know how anyone with a conscience can let our country get to this state just to make a point,’ said [Jeani] Crowe, who lives on a farm outside Fallon, Nev.”

First, by the time you have reached the age to draw SS, you should have paid off your mortgage. Second, what kind of idiot depends on a check from the government for the basic necessities of life. Third, I don’t know how anyone with a fuctioning conscience can continue to suck of the teat of the public and whine about making a point. Fourth and finally, if you can’t afford the farm you live on, switch to a smaller farm. Your largess is not my problem.

AnotherOpinion on July 30, 2011 at 9:30 PM

I’ve paid about $200K (ballpark) into it so far… don’t recall the the exact number, but it’s not trivial. Do you want to cut me a lump sum check, with compound interest at money market rates — I won’t even ask for Dow or S&P kinds of numbers — and we’ll call it a day.

That’s why some boomers are so danged sensitive about it — it’s their money that they simply want back. That’s all…

MedicCare & MedicAid are a totally different story…

OnlyOrange on July 30, 2011 at 9:22 PM

Your just one of the enslaved kids of other people. Do you feel better about your stupidity now? Grow up, if you did not know what you were paying for, it is your own problem when you get nothing. It is not your money, it is not their money. Where were their votes through the years as a whole? Oh, that is right, in the pocket of the progressives bribers.

astonerii on July 30, 2011 at 9:33 PM

You wonder if obama’s lack of leadership on critical issues such as this, and his aggressive leadership on stuff we don’t want or need, such as obamacare, really is his inner obama trying to destroy the nation. He’s doing a pretty effective job of it. There ought to be a law disallowing Democrats from holding office.

paul1149 on July 30, 2011 at 9:37 PM

End new entrants to SSA retirement or other benefits, but keep paying to those already on it. Remove FICA as a separate tax and move the entire thing into general revenue spending. That will end increasing SSA and by removing the retirement age people will have to think about what they will actually have to save to retire.

You can’t get what you ‘paid into’ the program because it is spent. That happened during the Johnson Administration. We were warned about the bankruptcy of SSA in the 1980′s and were told it couldn’t go on forever… they expected around 2030 back then. Now its today. You cannot guarantee retirement for people and government has no business telling anyone when they must retire from private employment.

M&M’s, add up, divide by 2, block grant to the States by population and phase out over 5 years. That gives everyone time to put up a State-based set of systems if they want them. The federal government cannot guarantee low cost health care because it short-changes doctors and pharmacies that then must charge more to actual paying customers. The spike in health care started when the federal government got involved in the 1960′s… with the M&M’s.

You want low cost healthcare for everyone? Stop subsidizing it.

Want a retirement? Plan for it… you might even find a new career that isn’t so taxing that will earn you money, keep you mobile, and not sitting at home worrying if some government bureaucrat will let you have some cash.

Want to help the poor, downtrodden and elderly? Donate to charity. Your able body for a few hours a week or some cash if you don’t have the time would be a great help and build communities across this Nation. See what we get when government does it? Dependent citizens. Serfs. Beggars to bureaucrats.

No one will trust those we send Upon The Hill to do those things until government starts to take the hit FIRST. Reduce its size, reduce its power, reduce its scope and reduce its reach FIRST to gain trust to end the entitlements over years. No one trusts government NOW so the trust must start to be built NOW.

Stop the spending.

Not tomorrow.

Not in 2013.

Not in 10 years.

If you meant what you said and voted for in 2010, then you must be prepared to help end the spending. There will be pain, but you knew that going in, didn’t you? Freedom is painful, costly, and it is your life beholden to others if you don’t bear that pain and cost. Your choice to make, not that of politicians. We can get better ones but the point and support for ending the spending is today, tomorrow and every day thereafter. Unless you think the politicians will do the heavy lifting for you… then you are beholden to them, aren’t you?

ajacksonian on July 30, 2011 at 9:39 PM

I understand you paid; we’ve all paid. But some of us will never see any of it. I just want out.
Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 9:28 PM
I paid in, at maximum rates, for everything, for 41 years. Nevertheless, I would opt out of all “benefits” if the government would get off my back.

GaltBlvnAtty on July 30, 2011 at 9:39 PM

“He’s still holding out hope for a panic sell-off at the end of the day.

Oh, please, please let me meet this person in a dark alley.

Are you f-ing kidding me???!? I guarantee you this person (and others around him) sold their positions and are sitting in cash right now, too, in anticipation of *making* the markets tank. I wonder if the SEC shouldn’t be investigating some of the trading behaviors of some DC ‘insiders’ lately.

Midas on July 30, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Let’s move to Brasil. I hear the women are incredible and the economy is great.

carbon_footprint on July 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Colombia is actually doing better and their President is not a socialist, right now anyway. I was just down in Bogota, construction cranes everywhere you looked.

bluemarlin on July 30, 2011 at 9:39 PM

I’m working up to a whole lot of pissed off real quick and if I’m pissed off a helluva lot of other people are too.

America has had two roles in a so-called “globalized” world: America’s government was the guarantor of global order; America’s economy was the engine of global prosperity. Right now, both roles are up for grabs. And there are no takers for the former. Pace Nancy Pelosi, “life on this planet as we know it today” is going to change, and very fast.
Mark Steyn

The liberal zeitgeist has injected many more idiots into American society than we can safely absorb.

Until Tea Party activists occupy the majority of both houses and the Whitehouse, we’re headed down hill.

Speakup on July 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM

’ve paid about $200K (ballpark) into it so far… don’t recall the the exact number, but it’s not trivial. Do you want to cut me a lump sum check, with compound interest at money market rates — I won’t even ask for Dow or S&P kinds of numbers — and we’ll call it a day.

That’s why some boomers are so danged sensitive about it — it’s their money that they simply want back. That’s all…

OnlyOrange on July 30, 2011 at 9:22 PM

Tell ya what, if you can wring it out of the personal bank accounts of the politicians who were stealing it all those years you were putting money in, feel free. And the welfare leeches, and everyone else.

Have at it.

Midas on July 30, 2011 at 9:42 PM

AnotherOpinion on July 30, 2011 at 9:30 PM

If you read the article you’ll notice she takes SSDI not SSI.

SSI is what kicks in at 65, SSDI kicks in if you apply for disability and she is aged 54 which is btw younger than BOTH my damn parents.

As far as the mortgage angle of things you ARE aware how many people refi-ed their home loans in the last decade due to the housing bubble right?

Not defending her by ANY means just pointing out facts that might not be noticed from skimming the QOTD.

SgtSVJones on July 30, 2011 at 9:43 PM

2012 can’t come soon enough.

unseen on July 30, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Nov. 2012, indeed!

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Are we allowed to put him on trial for treason?

Vegi on July 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM

He’s not worth the investment.

Run him out of town on Jan. 20th, 2013. It will punish him more. He aimed for the skies, and he’s not even fit for turkeys.

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Some won’t like this but think Israel/Palestinians without the violence.

The R world and D world CANNOT co-exist.

What more evidence do people need?

How about an amicable divorce?

artist on July 30, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Not a bad analogy, but it won’t be amicable, and I wouldn’t be on non-violent, either.

Midas on July 30, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Perry, 61, said social issues should be decided state by state and even remarked that New York’s passage of gay marriage law was that state’s business.

This is a very reasonable position. Nothing extremist about it. Currently, barring anything constitutional, it is a states rights issue.

Still, he said he would support a constitutional amendment that takes away the power of the states to decide who can get married.

This is neither an extreme, or contradictory. If we honored the process, and put this in the constitution, it would be, oh, I don’t know, a part of the constitution, and then it wouldn’t be a states-rights issue.

This month, he appointed a biology teacher who disputes evolution as chairwoman of the Texas State Board of Education. In 2009, that 15-member board put the national spotlight on Texas in a debate that led to adopting standards encouraging schools to look at “all sides” of scientific theory.

Looking at all sides of something is centrist, moderate, thoughtfull.

It now is considering educational materials that promote intelligent design even though a federal court ruled against teaching the theory that life on Earth is so complex that it must have come from an intelligent higher power.

Again, considering materials does not constitute any kind of radicalism; just means you’re thinking about it. Very reasonable.

massrighty on July 30, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Do share. I saw a headline the other day about her defending the confederate flag on the state capitol? I can only imagine the vitriol.

Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM

They accused her of lying about the number of jobs that have come to SC since she became governor. She was off by about 1,000 jobs. Did the Associated Press ever question Barry’s job figures? No.

Then they gladly reported that she indicated she’s WHITE on her voter ID card. The nerve of her for not choosing Indian! (It’s not an option)

SouthernGent on July 30, 2011 at 9:50 PM

That’s why some boomers are so danged sensitive about it — it’s their money that they simply want back. That’s all…

MedicCare & MedicAid are a totally different story…

OnlyOrange on July 30, 2011 at 9:22 PM

It is not your money. It was stolen fair and square years ago and you are just now beginning to realize it.

txmomof6 on July 30, 2011 at 9:52 PM

2012 can’t come soon enough.

unseen on July 30, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Of course I say this all the time, too, but can you imagine how the left in this country is going to act when their messiah is sent packing from the White House? It is going to be just awful.

I predict that just prior to the election — I’m talking 72 hours or so before — the media will be coordinating with the Obama campaign to “report” on various efforts to “quell” the “civil unrest” they “expect” should Obama lose. It will be a two-pronged approach: 1) an effort to scare people into voting for Obama to “avoid” the rioting; and 2) should that fail, manufactured riots around the country to demonstrate that the new president has no mandate, and has, in fact, ushered in an era of “unrest.” They’ll want to be able to report that “the election of President so-and-so caused the country to erupt in violence overnight,” and rather than reporting on the election win, they’ll be able to report on the riots that ensue.

Oh, yes, they’ll have their tantrum. Their manufactured, bought-and-paid-for, media enabled tantrum. And that will just be the beginning.

Rational Thought on July 30, 2011 at 9:52 PM

“‘Every day we wake up and think that stocks will send a shock up to Capitol Hill. And every day nothing happens,’ the source said.

TRANSLATION:
“It’s the only thing that gets us what we want.” “Which is a freaking blank check so we can spend the futures of the Middle class that have been accumulating all this wealth (that they THOUGHT they would get to spend in their retirements, etc.)”.

“The middle class don’t realize that WE’RE GOING TO TAKE their wealth……hahahahahahaha they have really just been working for us, until we needed the money……hahahahahaha”.

Let’s be clear OJesus is going out of his way as are the Administration tools to PANIC the market. Maybe the Market reflects part of the opinion of the American People that D.C. is just trying to “TARP US AGAIN“.

Lying Politicians have a home base…..and it is D.C.

PappyD61 on July 30, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Obama is not serious about a plan.
His intention is to collapse the economy.
He brings up the past, but doesn’t focus on the future.
It’s all part of the plan to fundamentally transform America, into Socialist Europe.

Kini on July 30, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Obama sure looks p.o.’d in the video screen shot.

DrStock on July 30, 2011 at 9:56 PM

ajacksonian on July 30, 2011 at 9:39 PM
Cassandra. Noone will hear you, but you are right.

txmomof6 on July 30, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Are we allowed to put him on trial for treason?

Vegi on July 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM

He’s not worth the investment.

Run him out of town on Jan. 20th, 2013. It will punish him more. He aimed for the skies, and he’s not even fit for turkeys.

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Agreed. Impeachment will cause him to be canonized on the Left much like JFK was through death. Let him walk quietly out of the White House back door as a failed president and stumble back to the craphole of Chicago while crowds gather at the front of the White House around a new President in January of 2013.

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Until Tea Party activists occupy the majority of both houses and the Whitehouse, we’re headed down hill.

Speakup on July 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Actually, under joint Clinton and House GOP leadership, the deficit was reduced to practically nothing a decade ago. What makes you think this country wants or needs the Tea Party drama queens around to do it again?

In fact, the type of ‘compromise’ that led to a balanced budget under Clinton has been taken off the table by the Tea Party, which seems to be more of the problem than the answer.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 9:59 PM

Is Obama mixd up in those Nigerian email schemes, too?

You have inherited $15 million dollars US, but you need to ssend me $100,000 to cover the transfer fees. Yours, Barack H. Obama, Esq.”

profitsbeard on July 30, 2011 at 10:01 PM

“Libby Rowe already knows how she’ll use her Aug. 3 Social Security disability check, which comes to about $1,000. She needs it to pay the mortgage and utility bills. If it doesn’t arrive, she won’t be able to put gas in her car and will have to cut back on groceries…”
And there’s the problem! She has a house and a car and $1,000 a month… That’s SOME safety net !
I imagine there are hundreds of thousands of Americans, and millions upon millions of citizens of other countries, who wish they were that “poor”.
Something has to change!!

Frank_D on July 30, 2011 at 10:02 PM

2012 can’t come soon enough.

unseen on July 30, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Of course I say this all the time, too, but can you imagine how the left in this country is going to act when their messiah is sent packing from the White House? It is going to be just awful.

Oh, yes, they’ll have their tantrum. Their manufactured, bought-and-paid-for, media enabled tantrum. And that will just be the beginning.

Rational Thought on July 30, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Whoever wins will be blamed for the difficult and painful times ahead. Unlike the pass that the media has given Obama, the next president will preside over misery that will be trumpeted to the heavens and make Cindy Sheehan’s shenanigans feel like a lovefest.

txmomof6 on July 30, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Oh, yes, they’ll have their tantrum. Their manufactured, bought-and-paid-for, media enabled tantrum. And that will just be the beginning.

Rational Thought on July 30, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Better their tantrums than the alternative

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2011 at 10:02 PM

I hope the old media implode.

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

The R world and D world CANNOT co-exist.

What more evidence do people need?

How about an amicable divorce?

You don’t seem to understand the ideas and goals of the Founding Fathers. And how well the parties managed our fiscal house until 2002. The only time that the two parties can’t co-exist is when one group forgets that it’s part of a democratic system predicated on opposing views reaching compromise.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Agreed. Impeachment will cause him to be canonized on the Left much like JFK was through death. Let him walk quietly out of the White House back door as a failed president and stumble back to the craphole of Chicago while crowds gather at the front of the White House around a new President in January of 2013.

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Obama will never, ever leave the White House “quietly.” That’s how presidents left when we had two political parties that both respected the Constitution and the peaceful transfer of power. Those days are looooong gone. It won’t be quiet. It won’t be peaceful. It will be very, very ugly. Prepare to be appalled. Monsters like modern liberalism die very noisy deaths.

Rational Thought on July 30, 2011 at 10:04 PM

Needless debacle over a stupid law.

lexhamfox on July 30, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Sorry Mr. Soros… I tried to spook the markets so you could make billions on shorting Treasuries, but it just didn’t work this time…

Quiet Jugg-ears, or I’ll send you right back to Kenya where I found you…

phreshone on July 30, 2011 at 10:08 PM

reaching compromise.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

You mean YOUR meaning of compromise.

Lapdog.

CW on July 30, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Yes Bayam our financial house is in the same position it was during Clintons term./ Sheesh you are stupid.

CW on July 30, 2011 at 10:12 PM

This is what comes of leftism. What we’re experiencing now is the direct and indisputable cause of leftists having overrun the democrat party and risen to power unseen in American history. They cannot stop themselves from the project of discord and ruin. It is in their DNA. Just as projecting their poisonous motives and destructive gyrations on to others is. The question, as always, is if this can be understood by conservatives and translated to the people.

rrpjr on July 30, 2011 at 10:12 PM

You don’t seem to understand the ideas and goals of the Founding Fathers.
bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

No need to read any further.

Electrongod on July 30, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Firefly_76 on July 30, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Here’s another quote that fits the bill…

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president”

katy on July 30, 2011 at 10:13 PM

I resent the fact that I live my life responsibly, yet I’m in no better financial shape than someone who runs up thousands in credit card debt. I have the same financial obligation, and I’m powerless to stop it from increasing, because the public is borrowing in my name.

The only way to not pay is to die before the bill comes due, or leave the country.

commodore on July 30, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Obama is not serious about a plan.
His intention is to collapse the economy.
He brings up the past, but doesn’t focus on the future.
It’s all part of the plan to fundamentally transform America, into Socialist Europe.

Kini on July 30, 2011 at 9:54 PM

This is my response when asked about the current situation.

I can’t get anyone to believe me though.

darwin-t on July 30, 2011 at 10:15 PM

You don’t seem to understand the ideas and goals of the Founding Fathers.
bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Chuckle. Dumb bi t ch

CW on July 30, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Bayam invoking the FOUNDING FATHERS is like well Obama invoking the FOUNDERS. Seriously. What a nut job.

CW on July 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM

reaching compromise.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

You mean YOUR meaning of compromise.

Lapdog.

CW on July 30, 2011 at 10:11 PM

I mean the type of compromise that happened under Reagan.

Hey aren’t you the guy that went ballistic here when I revealed that McDonalds had to accept assistance from the Feds during the bottom of the financial crisis?

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Next Senate vote: 1 p.m. tomorrow…to allow time for discussion, Reid says.

Rosmerta on July 30, 2011 at 10:20 PM

I mean the type of compromise that happened under Reagan.
bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Oh, you mean when the Dems actually cared about their own country? And they were too egotistical to know when an “old man” suckered them into doing what was right?

kingsjester on July 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Bayam invoking the FOUNDING FATHERS is like well Obama invoking the FOUNDERS. Seriously. What a nut job.

CW on July 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM

My guess is that in terms of higher education, command of hte classics, and mastery of the language, you couldn’t be more different from the founding fathers. In fact, your pathetic attempt at debate would be roundly ridiculed by all of them.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM

I hope the old media implode.

Schadenfreude on July 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Dear God, please let the old media implode. They are out to destroy Christianity and the truth. Amen.

redridinghood on July 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM

I mean the type of compromise that happened under Reagan.

Hey aren’t you the guy that went ballistic here when I revealed that McDonalds had to accept assistance from the Feds during the bottom of the financial crisis?

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM

What we learned from the type of compromise that you speak of, is that Democrats cannot be trusted to uphold their end of the bargain.

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

darwin-t on July 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM

The lefties idea of ‘compromise’ always seems to be just a little slower march toward their socialist paradise.

On the other hand when they are in power they can stick their nose in the air and say “I won”, and “this time you have me”.

slickwillie2001 on July 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM

A plan I can get behind

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/30/you-know-what-would-be-awesome/

Conservative Voice on July 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM

katy on July 30, 2011 at 10:13 PM

So true, the dumbing down of America has been criminal! People used to be involved and understand our system much better not to mention have pride in this country. It is that disease that allows people to say ” Well of course we know they are crooked, it is Chicago, Alaska, Louisiana, Detroit, name your favorite one here” and then chuckle and say “nothing we can do about it!” when did we hit that attitude as the norm?

bluemarlin on July 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Oh, you mean when the Dems actually cared about their own country? And they were too egotistical to know when an “old man” suckered them into doing what was right?

kingsjester on July 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM

At least what’s happening now isn’t as serious as the ‘Clinton murders’, right? The delusional sense of victimization among some will never die. Sure, you’re so much more patriotic than everyone else. That’s why you refuse an end the Bush tax cut on stock dividends- because it’s better for your kids that way.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Bayam, your Chia pet needs watering.

DrStock on July 30, 2011 at 10:25 PM

First, by the time you have reached the age to draw SS, you should have paid off your mortgage. Second, what kind of idiot depends on a check from the government for the basic necessities of life. Third, I don’t know how anyone with a fuctioning conscience can continue to suck of the teat of the public and whine about making a point. Fourth and finally, if you can’t afford the farm you live on, switch to a smaller farm. Your largess is not my problem.

Oh really? You obviously know very little about life. Sh!t happens. My 86 yr. old mother and I both had to re-finance our homes to pay for our spouses prolonged illnesses. Mom has the income to deal with it. I’ll be working to the grave. BYOB.

AnotherOpinion on July 30, 2011 at 9:30 PM

katy the mean old lady on July 30, 2011 at 10:27 PM

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Just because your socialist president wants me to give 40% of the fruits of my labors to grow his Politboro, doesn’t mean I have to go all with his mad scheme.

kingsjester on July 30, 2011 at 10:27 PM

At least what’s happening now isn’t as serious as the ‘Clinton murders’, right? The delusional sense of victimization among some will never die. Sure, you’re so much more patriotic than everyone else. That’s why you refuse an end the Bush tax cut on stock dividends- because it’s better for your kids that way.From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:25 PM

FIFY for accuracy.

fossten on July 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM

My guess is that in terms of higher education, command of hte classics, and mastery of the language, you couldn’t be more different from the founding fathers. In fact, your pathetic attempt at debate would be roundly ridiculed by all of them.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Your socialist arguments would be refudiated by them.

fossten on July 30, 2011 at 10:30 PM

My guess is that in terms of higher education, command of hte classics, and mastery of the language, you couldn’t be more different from the founding fathers. In fact, your pathetic attempt at debate would be roundly ridiculed by all of them.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Now that is rich, you actually have that nerve! Good thing you are only guessing. My assumption is that they would let him debate as opposed to ridicule please do not impart your actions and attitudes on par with the Founders.

bluemarlin on July 30, 2011 at 10:30 PM

a democratic system predicated on opposing views reaching compromise.

bayam on July 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Wow you’re dumb. Tell me, where do the founders advocate compromise?

fossten on July 30, 2011 at 10:31 PM

This is my response when asked about the current situation.

I can’t get anyone to believe me though.

darwin-t on July 30, 2011 at 10:15 PM

I think we’re not saying it right.

Maybe, we have the Right to Life, Liberty and the Redistribution of Wealth?

Kini on July 30, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Good job, Champ.

petefrt on July 30, 2011 at 10:32 PM

I have spent time recently at the website of the St. Louis Fed. They have a database of econ numbers that just won’t quit. (Yes, very geeky stuff)

But there’s a reason that the dollar is the reserve currency. Libs hate to admit is but the numbers do tell a tale. Japan has been a wreck for 20 years. Greece is worse than a wreck…it not a sustainable country. I know everyone love Germany now..but sorry the growth rate has been higher here and the unemployment rate has been lower for 20 years. And, Spain…wonder Socialist Spain, the ones with the visionary windmills. Terrible to look at.

2012 is simple..the left wants slow growth, unemployed people getting checks, single payer, all the stuff we know. the US has resisted. The data is pretty stark.

the gop evidently has as a slogan “change direction”. We Must.

https://www.gop.com/2012ChangeDirection/2012ChangeDirection.htm

r keller on July 30, 2011 at 10:33 PM

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