Reid: Damn, I guess I have to get to work, or something

posted at 12:05 pm on July 29, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

How desperate has the debt-ceiling crisis become?  Harry Reid may actually have to do his job:

With House action stalled, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced Friday he’d take the lead and move his bill to raise the national debt limit and avert an economy-shaking default next week.

Calling his plan “the last train out of the station,” Reid said there are only hours to act before Tuesday’s Treasury deadline, so he plans to file a procedural motion Friday to move towards a final vote in the next few days.

“That is why, by the end of the day today, I must take action on the Senate’s compromise legislation,” he said.

Wow!  The Senate might actually take up budget legislation.  That would make it the first time in over 800 days that they’ve bothered to initiate any such legislation.

Reid’s statement is pure political theater.  He could have moved his bill at any time.  In fact, it would have been helpful to have moved this bill earlier in the process.  If Boehner passes his bill, Congress could create a conference committee to resolve the differences; if not, Boehner could have moved Reid’s bill.  That could have taken place at any time in the last two weeks, or two months for that matter.

Why didn’t Reid bother to do so?  It may be that Reid doesn’t have the votes, either.  I’d expect the bill that Reid moves won’t be his original proposal but something closer to the Boehner-McConnell hybrid that Politico reported earlier.

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I like how he used John McCain’s condemnation of Republicans.

Nice work McRage – you loser! Feeding Dingy Harry material to use against your own folks.

What a team player huh?

I hope Sarah Palin launches on his ass.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM

It’s a a mess.

clnurnberg on July 29, 2011 at 12:08 PM

How desperate has the debt-ceiling crisis become? Harry Reid may actually have to do his job:

break out the crayons harry!!

Tim_CA on July 29, 2011 at 12:08 PM

ehh, it’s Friday. Nobody will notice. The Tea Party is evil, ya know.

faraway on July 29, 2011 at 12:08 PM

There is no bill…

Like that line from “Kill Bill”…”where is Bill?”

PatriotRider on July 29, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Ok. Somebody give me an update. I need to catch up from yesterday afternoon.

If they can’t get Boehner 1.1 through, screw ‘em.

Vince on July 29, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Rush saying he’s “Damn Proud” of true conservatives for holding Dem’s and Boner’s feet to the fire.

Tim_CA on July 29, 2011 at 12:10 PM

In fact, it would have been helpful to have moved this bill earlier in the process.

I’m pretty sure being helpful isn’t high on his priority list.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2011 at 12:10 PM

“That is why, by the end of the day today, I must take action on the Senate’s compromise legislation,” he said.

You always remember your first time, Harry.

portlandon on July 29, 2011 at 12:11 PM

If they can’t get Boehner 1.1 through, screw ‘em.

Vince on July 29, 2011 at 12:08 PM

No, that one’s going to pass today – it’s just that nobody cares anymore since Boehner, true to form, is already working on another plan with Reid and McConnell.

LOL.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 12:11 PM

John McCain is a RINO and always has been. Screw McCain.

j_galt on July 29, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Reid annoys the h3ll out of me.

If I were Boehner I would pass the latest version (2-step with BBA attched) and immediately dismiss the house for 6 weeks.

Your move Harry.

eyesky on July 29, 2011 at 12:12 PM

So the terrorists are gonna work today?

SouthernGent on July 29, 2011 at 12:12 PM

I like how he used John McCain’s condemnation of Republicans.
Nice work McRage – you loser! Feeding Dingy Harry material to use against your own folks.
What a team player huh?
I hope Sarah Palin launches on his ass.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Maverick is back!

cartooner on July 29, 2011 at 12:13 PM

What a team player huh?

I hope Sarah Palin launches on his ass.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Of course, this is the point that we alwasy make when calledn up to get in line and support the Rino. The Rino will screw you, always.

j_galt on July 29, 2011 at 12:14 PM

I’m proud of the Conservatives too.
While this is a complete farce on most sides, the Republicans would have caved long before now to the Dems had the conservatives not held strong.

ORconservative on July 29, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Harry — budget bill originate in the House. You need to work with them, not just say you’ll quash anything they produce.

unclesmrgol on July 29, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Boycott Nevada.

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2011 at 12:15 PM

I like how he used John McCain’s condemnation of Republicans.
Nice work McRage – you loser! Feeding Dingy Harry material to use against your own folks.
What a team player huh?
I hope Sarah Palin launches on his ass.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Maverick is back!

cartooner on July 29, 2011 at 12:13 PM

JD Heyworth, where art thou?

You’d have been an embarrassment, but not an active impediment to getting things done in Congress.

teke184 on July 29, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Contessa Brewer wants to know if Dingy has a degree in finance.

BacaDog on July 29, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Yeah, we know, Harry. It sucks to be you.

tkinTX on July 29, 2011 at 12:16 PM

He’s on the mic now… how does he stand there and say this stuff with a straight face?

BKeyser on July 29, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Calling his plan “the last train out of the station,” Reid said there are only hours to act before Tuesday’s Treasury deadline,

More like high speed rail to nowhere

txhsmom on July 29, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Thanks AZ Republicans.

angryed on July 29, 2011 at 12:17 PM

So credit card debt and mortgage interest are now taxes?

BKeyser on July 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM

I guess the Apollo Alliance must be close to done writing it for him. Pass it through an intermediary, a staffer, hand it to him and he can present a bright, shiny new Soros plan in no time at all. Because if he really did start today it would take him over 800 days to get to the point where he might think he might have to really do something, other than just talk about working on it.

ajacksonian on July 29, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Now Harry Reid will have to get to work dissing Republicans, saving Obama’s ass, raising the debt ceiling for the 75th time, creating a lot of smoke and mirrors, creating a progressive super committee, funding Obamacare, adding to exponentially rising debt, cutting defense spending and in general screwing the American people.

Viator on July 29, 2011 at 12:19 PM

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 12:11 PM

See, you and I have been on the same page the whole time. Why would any freshman GOP’er (or any conservative) in the House vote for Boehner’s new bill when he’s just going to make them vote for a lesser bill EVERY FREAKIN’ TIME?!?!

SouthernGent on July 29, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Will this be BHO’s plan..? or are they even talking now?

d1carter on July 29, 2011 at 12:20 PM

if not for the shiny new TEA party Republicans, things would be much worse. so I am grateful to them

kelley in virginia on July 29, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Large and in charge.

The 25,000 patriots who died to create this great nation are spinning in their graves over what has become of it.

These jackholes are supposedly the best we can do in representing the rest of us? Ugh.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Boycott Nevada.

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2011 at 12:15 PM

You sound like obambi now.

VegasRick on July 29, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Thanks AZ Republicans.

angryed on July 29, 2011 at 12:17 PM

It’s the heat, man. When it gets hot, it’s hard to think striaght, you know?

j_galt on July 29, 2011 at 12:23 PM

If they can’t get Boehner 1.1 through, screw ‘em.

Vince on July 29, 2011 at 12:08 PM
No, that one’s going to pass today – it’s just that nobody cares anymore since Boehner, true to form, is already working on another plan with Reid and McConnell.

LOL.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 12:11 PM

I meant through the Senate,
I never, ever believe any rumors on this until the rumor has been acknowledged by the parties involved. Boehner is pushing his bill.

Vince on July 29, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Hobbits win…!

Seven Percent Solution on July 29, 2011 at 12:30 PM

What the hell is Durbin goin’ on about,

the most outrageous thing he ever heard of is, a balanced budget requirement?

Good Grief

franksalterego on July 29, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Hobbits win…!

Seven Percent Solution on July 29, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Frodo Lives!

txmomof6 on July 29, 2011 at 12:33 PM

There’s a list here of the Republican No-Votes: Down To The Wire

We should look at this because a narrative is being pushed on us by the democratic-controlled old media, and maybe by the country-club Republicans, that the Tea Party is holding this up. I don’t see a pattern in the no-votes that says 100% Tea Party or old-cons or RINOs or anything else.

The No-Votes:
* Rep. Todd Akin (R., Mo.) **
* Rep. Justin Amash (R., Mich.)
* Rep. Michele Bachmann (R., Minn.) **
* Rep. Paul Broun (R., Ga.) **
* Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R., Utah)
* Rep. Jeff Duncan (R., S.C.)
* Rep. Jeff Flake (R., Ariz.)
* Rep. Chuck Fleischmann (R., Tenn.)
* Rep. Trent Franks (R., Ariz.) **
* Rep. Phil Gingrey (R., Ga.) **
* Rep. Louie Gohmert (R., Texas) **
* Rep. Trey Gowdy (R., S.C.)
* Rep. Tom Graves (R., Ga.) **
* Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R., Kan.)
* Rep. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio)
* Rep. Steve King (R., Iowa) **
* Rep. Jeff Landry (R., La.)
* Rep. Connie Mack (R., Fla.)
* Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R., S.C.)
* Rep. Ron Paul (R., Texas)
* Rep. Dennis Ross (R., Fla.)
* Rep. Tim Scott (R., S.C.)
* Rep. Steve Southerland (R., Fla.)
* Rep. Joe Walsh (R., Ill.)
* Rep. Joe Wilson (R., S.C.) **

I further took this list and double-asterisked the official members of the Tea Party from Bachmann’s site: Tea Party Members

So looks to me like only 9 of the 24 holdouts are TP. Obviously the majority of the official Tea Party members from Bachmann’s list are supporting Boehner.

slickwillie2001 on July 29, 2011 at 12:33 PM

If the Tea Party are Hobbits, then John McCain is Gollum and he used an incorrect pronunciation – it’s Hobbits’s.

Hey Harry, have you found that 800 day old budget you’ve been working on. It’s past due! How much longer must we wait?

iamsaved on July 29, 2011 at 12:34 PM

I hope Sarah Palin launches on his ass.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM

That would be sweet.

csdeven on July 29, 2011 at 12:35 PM

You know, while they are talking about the whole Christmas issue–how the Repub bill brings this back up at Christmastime. It might be something to note that the LAST debate over the debt ceiling was right before the Christmas season. Also, the whole will they-won’t they with the Bush tax cuts thing was during the Christmas season as well.

If you’re gonna argue about people being on pins-and-needles about this stuff because it’s Christmastime, it might be beneficial to check your rearview mirror and realize YOU were the one who did that last time!

UnderstandingisPower on July 29, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Wow!  The Senate might actually take up budget legislation.  That would make it the first time in over 800 days that they’ve bothered to initiate any such legislation.

This is a key misunderstanding, or at least a misstatement (since Ed obviously understands the difference between the budget fight and the debt ceiling issue).

I bring it up because our first bite at the spending apple has been the debt ceiling fight, but we will have another entirely independent bite at the same fight in two months. Everyone here knows there is no budget, and we’ve been appropriating money for government through Continuing Resolutions. The latest one of those expires sometime in September (according to some Congressional guest on Fox the other day), and that’s when this same battle gets cranked up again. Is that a good thing? Who knows; but this argument will happen then too.

MTF on July 29, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Why aren’t the Republicans getting out in front of the cameras and shouting that none of these bandaids addresses the real problem of debt. Our credit rating will drop to AA without demonstrably cutting $4 Trillion from the debt. Only the Ryan plan does so.

Raising the debt ceiling only puts us further into debt.

onlineanalyst on July 29, 2011 at 12:36 PM

If he’s going to have a procedural vote on Friday on this thing, can it move through BOTH houses by Tuesday? That seems a little… rushed.

UnderstandingisPower on July 29, 2011 at 12:36 PM

I’m proud of the Conservatives too.
While this is a complete farce on most sides, the Republicans would have caved long before now to the Dems had the conservatives not held strong.

ORconservative on July 29, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Yep. We need to take the best deal we can get now, try to build support for long term entitlement reform and budget balancing in 2012, then move forward with a singular purpose in mind–retake the Senate and White House.

Outlander on July 29, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Wow! The Senate might actually take up budget legislation. That would make it the first time in over 800 days that they’ve bothered to initiate any such legislation.

I’ll believe it when I see it.

GarandFan on July 29, 2011 at 12:37 PM

I’ll believe it when I see it.

GarandFan on July 29, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Hell freezing over and all that.

VegasRick on July 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM

time for the Speaker to tell Reid that his bill is a non-starter in the House and to “Choke on it”.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on July 29, 2011 at 12:42 PM

I’m proud of the Conservatives too.
While this is a complete farce on most sides, the Republicans would have caved long before now to the Dems had the conservatives not held strong.

ORconservative on July 29, 2011 at 12:14 PM

ABSOLUTELY! It also shows how strong the TEA Party ideals have become. No wonder the Dems and GOP elites want to shut us down…

dominigan on July 29, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Why aren’t the Republicans getting out in front of the cameras and shouting that none of these bandaids addresses the real problem of debt.

I have seen quite a few doing just that. They have been laughed off, called radical and poo pooed by the press and members of their own party as the unreasonable “Hamas” like SS and medicare destroyers.

Remember, compromise means caving to the Democrats, holding firm to your ideals and principles is only heralded when it comes from the left.

Koa on July 29, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Well I see Dingy won’t have anything to do with any bill that doesn’t allow the debt ceiling raise to be carried over until March 2013.Gee, I wonder why?

sandee on July 29, 2011 at 12:43 PM

We’re goin’ off the rails on a Crazy Train…..

rockmom on July 29, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Why aren’t the Republicans getting out in front of the cameras and shouting that none of these bandaids addresses the real problem of debt.

Which cameras are you speaking about? ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, MSNBC? Good luck.

Foxnews has a following but their trumpeting is like screaming information during the worst part of a hurricane. They hear themselves if they’re lucky but the people who need to hear it won’t.

iamsaved on July 29, 2011 at 12:44 PM

Obama is stretched out in his political grave. “Shovel ready” isn’t what he thought it w/b.

See the other headlines and all is down, or up, in a very bad way. He doesn’t want this topic to shift, because when it does, the shovels begin to work.

Obama and the left are mortified. They have been uncovered. The last ones to report the story are shamefully the media.

Schadenfreude on July 29, 2011 at 12:44 PM

Rush is talking about this now. He is still saying we have been set up by boehner, dingy, mcconnell. This whole thing is just horrible! Are y’all as sick of hearing the word ‘crisis’ dealing with this as I am?
L

letget on July 29, 2011 at 12:46 PM

If he’s going to have a procedural vote on Friday on this thing, can it move through BOTH houses by Tuesday? That seems a little… rushed.

UnderstandingisPower on July 29, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Yeah, he’s gonna have to push the rules to the limit. I think he has to get a bill filed and then wait 7 hours before a cloture vote can take place. He can keep the Senate in session tomorrow and Sunday though. I guess he thinks he can then throw the hot potato back to the House with about 5 minutes left before The Apocalypse and the House will have to pass it.

rockmom on July 29, 2011 at 12:46 PM

Gee, I wonder why?

sandee on July 29, 2011 at 12:43 PM

obambi knows he is going down in 2012, he is trying not to be embarrased by the margin.

VegasRick on July 29, 2011 at 12:46 PM

The GOP lost a golden opportunity that cannot be recovered…

Good job to the idiot holdovers…

RedSoxNation on July 29, 2011 at 12:47 PM

Sorry, that should have read 72 hours before a cloture vote can be held.

rockmom on July 29, 2011 at 12:47 PM

The GOP lost a golden opportunity that cannot be recovered…

Good job to the idiot holdovers…

RedSoxNation on July 29, 2011 at 12:47 PM

Oh, it’s not over yet. Hell, it’s just getting fun now!! Now we get to watch Harry try to herd the cats on his side for a while. Pass the popcorn!

rockmom on July 29, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Calling his plan “the last train out of the station,”

“Leading from behind”, the Dem’s 2012 campaign slogan.

obladioblada on July 29, 2011 at 12:51 PM

The Republican Party makes me sick. They act like desperate losers caught a hysterical panic while the Democrats sit back and enjoy the show. The Democrats are the ones with the most to lose.

I’d bet that there is plenty of time to keep this issue open while all of the congress critters are allowed to return home to consult their constituents, but of course, that is what they are desperately trying to avoid. The crooks in Washington want to get this off their plate and bury it before the tea partiers at home get a crack at them.

FloatingRock on July 29, 2011 at 12:53 PM

What a team player huh?

I hope Sarah Palin launches on his ass.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Of course, this is the point that we always make when called up to get in line and support the Rino. The Rino will screw you, always.

j_galt on July 29, 2011 at 12:14 PM

I understand why Sarah endorsed McCain – that’s her sense of decency and loyalty showing. But my God, I prayed he would lose.

You’re 100% correct – the RINO will indeed always screw you.

John McCain, get out of politics. Now.

disa on July 29, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Obama is stretched out in his political grave. “Shovel ready” isn’t what he thought it w/b.

Schadenfreude on July 29, 2011 at 12:44 PM

lol…GREAT analogy!

csdeven on July 29, 2011 at 12:55 PM

I have listened to Mike Gallagher, Laura Ingraham and Rush today. So far Rush is the only talk show host who is thanking conservatives for standing tall. Others giving them hell for not going along.

derft on July 29, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Also, she was trying to work with the RNC. Proof that she is not wanting to see a split in the R brand.

Of course, there already is one.

disa on July 29, 2011 at 12:55 PM

derft on July 29, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Damn, it has been so confusing to see sides drawn among the pundits I most enjoy.

disa on July 29, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Seriously sick of the ponzi schemes and bipartisan corruption. Just saw The Undefeated. President Sarah Palin sounds good right about now.

Adrienne - copywriter on July 29, 2011 at 12:59 PM

I bet the real “deadline” falls some time after recess. If not, let’s temporarily raise the debt ceiling for a few weeks so that our “leaders” won’t be operating out of fear induced hysteria and can make sound decisions instead.

The government is in such a wild panic that it’s dangerous to allow them to make such important decisions in this state of mind. I think the tea party, being the only adults in the room, should put forward a bill to extend the debt cieling with a 2 month CR. Open the windows so the Chicken Little Democrats and RINO’s can calm down and relax so they’ll be capable of making rational decisions about the future of this country.

The Ruling Class has themselves worked up into such a tizzy that this is getting downright dangerous.

FloatingRock on July 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM

The Ruling Class has themselves worked up into such a tizzy that this is getting downright dangerous.

FloatingRock on July 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM

I think it’s kind of hilarious. They are like the Duke brother yelling “turn those machines back on!” after he lost 300 million dollars and the market closed.

rockmom on July 29, 2011 at 1:04 PM

There is no doubt that Reid is a rancid pile of goat dung but the are also a few Republican legislators that are not the brightest bulbs in the lamp. Unfortunately, among them there is a strong probability that they will let this once great nation slip into default. The possibility of anything good coming out of this fiasco is precarious at best. Personally, I’m ready to plant a garden and shoot game for meet but that’s probably not the course most Americans would elect to follow.

rplat on July 29, 2011 at 1:05 PM

There is no doubt that Reid is a rancid pile of goat dung but the are also a few Republican legislators that are not the brightest bulbs in the lamp. Unfortunately, among them there is a strong probability that they will let this once great nation slip into default. The possibility of anything good coming out of this fiasco is precarious at best. Personally, I’m ready to plant a garden and shoot game for meet but that’s probably not the course most Americans would elect to follow.

I’ve got to turn off this “auto comlete” . . . that’s “meat” vice ‘meet”.

rplat on July 29, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Damn, it has been so confusing to see sides drawn among the pundits I most enjoy.

disa on July 29, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Yep, one by one, pundits that I have respected for years, even decades, are deserting and jumping onto Boehner’s plan. Posters here too. I have concluded that I am the only one left that is pure, so as of today I will be forming a Party Of One.

slickwillie2001 on July 29, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Ed, don’t you see what is going on right now? Boehner and Reid are both trying to make their bill the “last one” that people have to choose on.

They are purposely delaying their bills so at the last second people have to vote for their bill or do nothing and watch Obama use his Super Duper Secret Squirrel Plan of Action to avert default and Debtageddon.

ButterflyDragon on July 29, 2011 at 1:21 PM

ALL OF Reid’s statement is ARE pure political theater.

FIFY, Ed.

VibrioCocci on July 29, 2011 at 1:22 PM

I hope someone is intelligent enough to put his statement into a political ad, though I don’t have much faith in the intelligence of the GOP these days.

madmonkphotog on July 29, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Damn those Tea Partiers and the work ethic. Don’t they know Harry is on welfare so he’s not supposed to work.

Reid is the Maynard G. Krebbs of the Senate. “Work!”

JimP on July 29, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Why didn’t Reid bother to do so? It may be that Reid doesn’t have the votes, either. I’d expect the bill that Reid moves won’t be his original proposal but something closer to the Boehner-McConnell hybrid that Politico reported earlier.

Or maybe, as I’ve been saying for two days now, Reid is going to drop a bomb on Boehner at the last second, a bill that the GOP can’t sign on to. Then they’ll take the blame.

fossten on July 29, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Things are so horrible, the Dow is down almost a quarter of a point…….

Vashta.Nerada on July 29, 2011 at 2:06 PM

I don’t think its the ‘last train out of the station’ sort of deal, I think its the last call to board the Titanic sort of deal: it sounds so good until it actually gets a fair ways into its journey.

Then you get a last call to life boats.

I would prefer to let this ship stay at the dock, as it doesn’t need to actually go anywhere.

ajacksonian on July 29, 2011 at 2:12 PM

For some reason, I am invited to parties. I have other social events.

Anyway, people often ask me if I have ever heard Sharon Angle’s stupid remarks.

Then I ask them if they have ever googled Harry Reid’s remarks. Then… if we have an audience, I ask if they want to exchange stupid remarks between Angle and Reid. While they think, I remind them that Reid is 80 and a Democrat.

IlikedAUH2O on July 31, 2011 at 5:24 AM