Quotes of the day

posted at 10:43 pm on July 29, 2011 by Allahpundit

“Now, some establishment Republicans are wondering if they got more than they bargained for. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, for instance, strongly opposed the health care legislation, making common cause with the tea party. But this month the chamber swung solidly behind Boehner’s original debt-ceiling bill. It suffered embarrassment with all the other groups and individuals forced to swallow the tea partyers’ demands.

“Republican campaign strategists are weighing the tea party’s valuable energy against the possibility that it might push the party away from mainstream politics, which appeal to crucial independent voters. A Pew Research poll found that 68 percent of American voters want lawmakers to compromise on the debt ceiling and default issue, even it means striking a deal they disagree with. Fewer than one in four said lawmakers should stand by their principles even if it leads to a default on U.S. obligations.

“Veteran lawmakers and congressional staffers are struck by the faith — be it admirable or naive — that many tea party advocates seem to have in what they consider the moral rightness of their ideas. Some GOP staffers privately roll their eyes at accounts of House members insisting that Senate Democrats will suddenly come to their senses and embrace the balanced budget agreement, even though those senators have criticized the proposal for years.”

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“Unfortunately for the country, which is poised to lose its place as the world’s most-trusted treasury and suffer economic repercussions we can ill afford, the stakes in this political game are too high to be in the hands of Tea Partyers who mistakenly think they have a mandate. Their sweep in the 2010 election was the exclusive result of anti-Obama sentiment and the sense that the president, in creating a health-care plan instead of focusing on jobs, had overplayed his hand. Invariably, as political pendulums swing, the victors become the very thing they sought to defeat.

“Who’s overplaying their hand now?…

“Hubris is no one’s friend, and irony is a nag. The Tea Partyers who wanted to oust Barack Obama have greatly enhanced his chances for reelection by undermining their own leader and damaging the country in the process. The debt ceiling may have been raised and the crisis averted by the time this column appears, but that event should not erase the memory of what transpired. The Tea Party was a movement that changed the conversation in Washington, but it has steeped too long and has become toxic.”

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“‘Well, just, watch out, ‘Everyone I talk to still believes in contested primaries.’ God bless her, Sarah Palin’s saying that in a message she put out,’ Ingraham said.

“She proceeded to run through a list of conservatives who have endorsed Boehner’s plan, quipping sarcastically: ‘I guess we’re threatening, implicitly, explicitly, Paul Ryan, Col. Allen West, Mike Pence is gonna be out of the House of Representatives. He’ll be the governor of Indiana. Maybe we can run someone else as governor of Indiana, to run for the governorship, ’cause Pence is obviously a sellout. Can I have the whole list of sellouts? I need the list so I can make sure I understand who’s going to get the primary challenge.’

“‘It’s a very odd way to go about things if we have a common goal,’ Ingraham continued, urging tea party-aligned Republicans to seek a ‘real and meaningful’ role — ‘not just, ok, I’m the spoiler here. I stood on principle, everybody else is impure.’”

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Oh Lord! I’m not even going there after last night….

sandee on July 29, 2011 at 10:46 PM

We need a huge Tea Party rally in DC tomorrow with thousands of signs that read: Send the House Home!

Put it all on the Dems! If we go into default let it be on their heads!

Speakup on July 29, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Regrettably, I think there was a bit of overreaching. This whole situation makes me feel ill.

andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Step 1: vote out Obama
Step 2: vote in Senate Republican majority/keep House as is
If they don’t get this fixed RIGHT AWAY
Step 3: In 2014 vote out Republicans for new Tea Party

Khun Joe on July 29, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Oh, good, so Roland Martin is dictating to Conservatives in this country now, is that right? http://www.rolandsmartin.com/blog/index.php/2011/07/15/time-to-shut-down-ideological-purists-in-debt-ceiling-fight/

cynccook on July 29, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Laura Ingraham is a heretic!!!

Burn her at the stake!! Heretic!!! Heretic!!!

cough…cough…

NickDeringer on July 29, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Can I have the whole list of sellouts? I need the list so I can make sure I understand who’s going to get the primary challenge.

Well, Bachmann won’t be on it. I look forward to Ingraham taking her to task for her no vote bright and early Monday morning.

Kataklysmic on July 29, 2011 at 10:49 PM

It is time for Reagan Conservatism again.

kingsjester on July 29, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Its not a sell out if you are doiong what is right and what your constiuants demand as oppossed to the dems in congress who act/vote strictly on socialistic idology!

glennbo on July 29, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Well the tea party definitely spent all the ammunition it could have used in September. Now if the government nearly shuts down, no matter who is at fault, they will get the blame. I doubt if Boehner will even entertain any bills brought by them.

andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:51 PM

So…Tea Party bash-a-thon with Rush as a consolation prize. Thanks. How about I add a few:

The Boss’ take (you’d think she’d get more play here) was that Boehner’s plan was nothing but a Crappy Meal. Her latest post echoes it.

Ashby of “The American Thinker” also seems to think the Tea Party was right.

I believe Levin had good stuff as well, but I can’t find the link.

There you go AP. I rounded it out for ya.

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Laura out, Tea Party in. Wait till next year the Rino’s will be slobbering all over the Tea Party for votes. Who needs fair weather friends like Laura?

Sandybourne on July 29, 2011 at 10:52 PM

… I meant to say overreach, not sellout!

glennbo on July 29, 2011 at 10:53 PM

The fact remains that our present fiscal condition is partly a result of establishment GOP compromise, not tea party activity. Those advocating compromise obviously assume doing the same things the same way will lead to different results.

a capella on July 29, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Huh, the Gadsden flag shown in that first still shot of the vid.

I’m seeing more of those flags popping up around here though admittedly this is MN-06; not exactly downtown San Fran.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 10:54 PM

I wonder if Palin is going to far, calling so many fellow conservatives “sell outs”. Yes, we need to change course. And I think it WILL take a sudden, radical change, which can happen now, or in 3 months, or in 3 years, or in 8 years. But “sell outs”? A softer landing over a period of a few months might be better than a sudden shutdown in a few days.

Paul-Cincy on July 29, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Or as Palin said to Obama

#Womanup

huckleberryfriend on July 29, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Laura Ingraham is a heretic!!!

Burn her at the stake!! Heretic!!! Heretic!!!

cough…cough…

NickDeringer on July 29, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Rush 7/29/11:

We are all Sarah Palin Now

Rush > Ingraham

Kataklysmic on July 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM

One thing is for sure. This episode has certainly excluded Bachmann as a viable candidate. Should she become the nominee, Dems can demagogue about her taking us to the brink of default and what not. It doesn’t have to be true, but that is what will happen. This has been really damaging. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Kathleen Parker is still brain dead.

Laura Ingraham is now officially a DC insider. Congrats Laura…they like you…they really like you!

katy on July 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Overreaching: Asking for a balanced budget amendment supported by majority of the American people.

Acceptable: Cutting just $22b when the deficit is $1,800b and we will add $9b in additional debt over the next 10 years.

Norwegian on July 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM

andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Concern Troll concern noted.

See? I noted your concern right here.

Noted.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Laura Ingraham is now officially a DC insider. Congrats Laura…they like you…they really like you!

katy on July 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Was thinking about buying her book. I think I’ll pass. No need to hear from someone who thinks like a loser.

PS

Love you Rush!

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 10:58 PM

I’m not a concern troll. God. Not everyone who isn’t thrilled that this debt ceiling fight has exploded on the Tea Party is a concern troll.

andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:58 PM

andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Do you enjoy speaking with yourself?

Firefly_76 on July 29, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Call your Congressional Representatives and your Senators to find out when they will be holding their August Town Hall Meetings.

Then call all of your Tea Party friends to make sure they will all be able to attend these Town Hall Meetings and be ready to ask lots of questions.

Don’t forget to bring your video cameras so you can share the videos with us on the web.

wren on July 29, 2011 at 10:59 PM

I don’t think my herd of kids owe quite enough. I’m hoping all the pols can continue to tell me that nothing can be done now but they will work on doing something in the future.

I won’t be satisfied until the oblivious youngsters are in hock for an even $100 grand before they even get out of high school.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Fewer than one in four said lawmakers should stand by their principles even if it leads to a default on U.S. obligations.

How many of these who believe lawmakers should abandon principles actually pay taxes?

“Democracy will last until the public realizes that it can vote itself wealth from the public largesse.” Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859)

When public officials to include a President spend money that does not belong to them to gain political friends, pay off voters, finance private organizations and causes and otherwise pilfer from taxpayers, while borrowing even more money and demanding taxpayers and their children and grandchildren repay the loan, this is a principled stand?

Trying to put a stop to that is considered too principled by those who face losing unlimited access to our pockets?

BTW, if “gubmint” taxed all of those earning a million or more annually at a 100% tax rate, it wouldn’t make a dent in obligations that are already on the books.

Now, what kind of principle is that?

coldwarrior on July 29, 2011 at 11:01 PM

The only overreach that was made was the by the gop establishment who tried to drive a stake through the TEa party and instead woke us up once again.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Paul-Cincy on July 29, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Sarah Palin did not call anyone a “sell out.”

Ted Torgerson on July 29, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Mark Levin had a nice twitter to Ingraham today.

“How are those book sales?” LMAO!!!!

katy on July 29, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Wow. Has the Queen of the Tea Party, Michele Bachmann, weighed in on any of this? I haven’t heard.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:02 PM

Well the tea party definitely spent all the ammunition it could have used in September. Now if the government nearly shuts down, no matter who is at fault, they will get the blame. I doubt if Boehner will even entertain any bills brought by them.

andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:51 PM

The Tea Party is America. We wont blame ourselves, but rather we will put the blame where it belongs….on the dems and the RINO reps.

csdeven on July 29, 2011 at 11:02 PM

I wonder if Palin is going to far, calling so many fellow conservatives “sell outs”. Yes, we need to change course. And I think it WILL take a sudden, radical change, which can happen now, or in 3 months, or in 3 years, or in 8 years. But “sell outs”? A softer landing over a period of a few months might be better than a sudden shutdown in a few days.

Paul-Cincy on July 29, 2011 at 10:54 PM

This is what Palin actually said:

Congressional Freshmen – For Such A Time As This
by Sarah Palin on Thursday, July 28, 2011 at 1:03pm

Out here in proverbial politico flyover country, we little folk are watching the debt ceiling debate with great interest and concern. Today I re-read the open letter I wrote to Republican Freshman Members of Congress in November 2010, just days after they were ushered into office in an historic landslide victory due in large part to the activism of commonsense patriots who are considered part of the Tea Party movement. I respectfully ask these GOP Freshman to re-read this letter and remember us “little people” who believed in them, donated to their campaigns, spent hours tirelessly volunteering for them, and trusted them with our votes. This new wave of public servants may recall that they were sent to D.C. for such a time as this.

The original letter is pasted below, with added emphasis to certain passages that I feel are especially relevant to the current discussion.

All my best to you, GOP Freshmen, from up here in the Last Frontier.

Sincerely,

Sarah Palin

P.S. Everyone I talk to still believes in contested primaries.

******

She did not refer to anyone specifically, and she did not use the term “sell out” or anything close to it.

That was Ingraham putting words in her mouth that weren’t there.

Brian1972 on July 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM

I’m not a concern troll. God. Not everyone who isn’t thrilled that this debt ceiling fight has exploded on the Tea Party is a concern troll.
andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Concern Troll strenuous denial noted.

See? I noted the strenuous denial on the same page as the Concern Troll concern that was noted earlier.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM

andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Rush talked all about you in that clip. Give it a listen.

Ted Torgerson on July 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM

It is time for Reagan Conservatism again.

kingsjester on July 29, 2011 at 10:50 PM

I think it’s time for the GOP to die its moderate death and for some sort of Conservative Party to rise. I really am starting to believe it.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Rush and Levin are standing fast.

katy on July 29, 2011 at 11:05 PM

andy85719 on July 29, 2011 at 10:56 PM

the only hit Bachmann took in this is that her TEa part cacus abandoned her and 2/3rds voted for the bill. Not a momment in leadership. also the debate startegy bachmann used about not voting for the debt limit unless obamacare was defunded might have allowed her to show principle but it did nto allow her to show leadership. she pulled a Mitt just instead of a desk to hide under Bachmann choose a position that she and others understood would never be even dicussed let alone voted on.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:05 PM

She did not refer to anyone specifically, and she did not use the term “sell out” or anything close to it.

That was Ingraham putting words in her mouth that weren’t there.

Brian1972 on July 29, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Yep.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:05 PM

We need a huge Tea Party rally in DC tomorrow with thousands of signs that read: Send the House Home!

Yep, that would just about epitomize the immaturity of the Tea Party. Have a great big public tantrum. What the heck do these people expect? There is *NOTHING* the House of Representatives can really do.

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Paul-Cincy on July 29, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Sarah Palin did not call anyone a “sell out.”

Ted Torgerson on July 29, 2011 at 11:01 PM

If so then I’m going to have to dig pretty deep to figure out what all the quotes and references are in the QOTD. Untangle the sarcasm from the paraphrasing of the attitudes of unnamed conservatives and Tea Partiers.

Paul-Cincy on July 29, 2011 at 11:06 PM

katy on July 29, 2011 at 11:01 PM

What’d Levin say about today’s boondoggle with the Senate? I was not much of a fan of Levin, but I’ve come to like him because he at least will defend conservatives and knows not to roll over.

Links on the twitter post?

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 11:07 PM

The only overreach that was made was the by the gop establishment who tried to drive a stake through the TEa party and instead woke us up once again.
unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Yah, I think the TP was taken for granted and now people will start to get energized again. Too much information out there to be hidden from Americans who are very very concerned.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

Here is what is going to happen. Reid’s bill will get some minor modification, it will pass, Obama will sign it and that will be the end of this issue.

The House is basically powerless by itself. It needs either a Republican Senate or a Republican executive. The party that holds two out of the three (two houses of Congress and the White House) basically gets to rule. We still have a Democrat Senate and a Democrat executive. There really isn’t anything the House can do by itself. Anyone believing anything different is living in a fantasy world.

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

“‘It’s a very odd way to go about things if we have a common goal,’ Ingraham continued, urging tea party-aligned Republicans to seek a ‘real and meaningful’ role — ‘not just, ok, I’m the spoiler here. I stood on principle, everybody else is impure.’”

I’m not sure if we do have a common goal.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

I love when Rush and I are on the exact same page, exact same paragraph, exact same sentence!

SouthernGent on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

“Who’s overplaying their hand now?…

Kathleen Parker? Really? She is what passes for intelligent commentary?

AZfederalist on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

How could anything be overreach for a bill that has already been rejected?

Nothing like a little meme-rolling at HotAir.

faraway on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

Here’s Laura’s E-Blast newletter that I received after the 2008 Election titled The Day After: Lessons Learned

“First, let no one tell you that this election was a failure of conservatism–it was the product of failed Republican leadership. Conservatism gave way to “compassionate” big-government Republicanism, which failed big time. Too many on Capitol Hill abandoned first principles like fiscal discipline, and failed to connect with middle class economic anxiety that has been brewing for two years, not two months. When one loses one’s sense of purpose, so too goes moral clarity and credibility. Despite all this, and despite Obama’s huge money and media advantage, 56 million Americans still pulled the lever for the Republican ticket. That is not nothing. It certainly is a base we can build on.

Second, we are moving into a new era that demands new leadership. You who were not lulled into complacency and stood for conservatism are going to have more influence over the GOP going forward than you’ve had during the Bush years. So take heart.

Third, after Inauguration Day, President Obama will have to finally start making some hard choices that no liberal has had to make. Is he really willing to trash the economy in an effort to stop global warming? Is he really willing to let terrorists reign in the Middle East? Is he really willing to go along with the casual anti-Americanism of most Europeans? If he does, his popularity will erode quickly. Conservatives, in the meantime, will be rebuilding, and refreshing their message and messengers.

Fourth, communications skills matter. Laugh all you want about Obama’s soaring rhetoric (and we do), there is no doubt that we got beaten in the PR department. We must cultivate a new generation of leaders who are both proud of their conservative beliefs and comfortable articulating them with vision, clarify and optimism.
Fifth, too many Americans — younger people especially — don’t understand conservatism. Obama advertised everything under the sun (health care, tax cuts, expanded government services, compassionate judges, peace in our time). Those who’ve never learned the basics of American history or conservative philosophy have a hard time grasping how anyone could oppose this bill of goods. Part of the answer is taking back our schools and universities. We also need to stop relying on ineffective slogans (“legislating from the bench,” “class warfare,” “socialism!”) and start conveying broader principles and truths through direct, pithy language.

Let the rebuilding begin!”

If FAUX CONSERVATIVE Laura can’t handle that the conservatives and the Tea Party are standing on our principles and calling out those in the House who aren’t, maybe she shouldn’t preach what she obviously doesn’t practice.

Either believe in your principles and convitions and get on board to save our country or GET OUT OF THE WAY!

Remember: Principles before Party.

RedRobin145 on July 29, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Yah, I think the TP was taken for granted and now people will start to get energized again. Too much information out there to be hidden from Americans who are very very concerned.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

agreed many in the TEa party thought after Nov 2010 they coould go home the gop was a stop to Obama. this debate showed them that they were wrong still a ways to go to save the country from these frodos in the federal government unable to throw the ring into the fire.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:11 PM

RedRobin145 on July 29, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Great post.

Kataklysmic on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

The party that holds two out of the three (two houses of Congress and the White House) basically gets to rule. We still have a Democrat Senate and a Democrat executive. There really isn’t anything the House can do by itself. Anyone believing anything different is living in a fantasy world.

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

You know, it’s funny, I’ve never seen the Democrats take that approach whenever they have only had one of the three. The Democrats always, always, always take the approach that they are in charge, regardless of how few of the branches they hold, if any. Remember when the Republicans held all three branches? Did the Dems simply agree that they were powerless? Nope, they were out there demagoguing every day and still acting like they were in charge.

AZfederalist on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Then I sincerely suggest you hop on over the DC and talk Reid and the President into a reasonable debt reduction plan.

You can do it, just like the President talked Iran into giving up their nuke plan.

Speakup on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

The House is basically powerless by itself.

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

You do what’s right and what you were sent there to do. You don’t sit on a dungheap whining about how friggin’ powerless you are.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

How about the House refuses to vote on any bill from the Senate, says “You have two bills that will solve the problem, vote for one of them. We’ll come back when you’ve done your part” and then recess? The House has already passed two bills. They should do nothing more until votes are taken. THAT is what they can do and THAT is standing on principle.

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Remember: Principles before Party.

RedRobin145 on July 29, 2011 at 11:10 PM

I ike to say country before party but it means the same thing.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Why continually saying there is nothing the House can do, I must point out that they have done twice as much as anyone else. Do you think that goes unnoticed? Why not use it to their advantage? Stop saying what can’t be done and start promoting small government and debt reduction. Reid & Obama keep calling for compromise, on what? All they have done is complain.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2011 at 11:13 PM

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:11 PM

Getting shooed out of the room like a child will piss people off.

Then again, if anyone dares to publicly voice their concern will be derided as immature little brats, so don’t you go doing anything more than punching an accessory pillow in your living room.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 11:14 PM

AZfederalist on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Preach it, brother.

Kataklysmic on July 29, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Nope, they were out there demagoguing every day and still acting like they were in charge.

AZfederalist on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

And using the filibuster to stop the gop from passing anything.

The gop has the flibuster and the house. They are from from powerless. the powerless argument is simple the establishment’s way to pass the buck.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Are the three NE RINOS holding up? I know Brown is being a snake, haven’t heard a peep from the Maine twosome. Heck, where’s Sen. Kirk? It’ll be stunning if the GOP senate caucus are on the same wavelength.

Apologetic California on July 29, 2011 at 11:15 PM

The Democrats always, always, always take the approach that they are in charge, regardless of how few of the branches they hold, if any.

AZfederalist on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

And the Republicans are always, always, always cowed by the media and scared shitless that some indie voter in Podunk, Iowa isn’t going to like them anymore.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM

TEA Party: Hold the line men!

GOP: But it’s hard *cries*

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Cindy, they have produced a lot of ink on paper but nothing has been passed. They have accomplished exactly nothing. Now saying their nothing is twice as much as someone else’s nothing might be accurate, but multiplying zero by any number still results in zero. Accomplishing 10 times more would still mean accomplishing nothing.

It has been a huge waste of time to mollify a whining tea party faction.

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM

let’s see who to believe, Kathleen Parker or Rush….well, Rush has 20M listeners…and Kathleen has…well?

If HA would stop linking her her traffic would drop by half. Just a thought.

r keller on July 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 11:07 PM

Marklevinshow Mark R. Levin
How are those book sales going? http://fb.me/15MEsW8cA
6 hours ago

katy on July 29, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Nope, they were out there demagoguing every day and still acting like they were in charge.

AZfederalist on July 29, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Because even if they have only 1/2 of one branch, they have the 4th branch of government — the media. The media has a huge amount of culpability in all of this, and unless and until we demand better media or edcuate those that are still influenced by it, we will continue to swim upstream.

Firefly_76 on July 29, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Wow, AP.

A Yahoo! blogger (you’re officially scraping bottom), WaPo, Politico AND a CNN clip that would get more viewers HERE (if anybody watches it) than it does on it’s actual broadcast all pissing on the Tea Party.

Can you be any more transparent?

SuperCool on July 29, 2011 at 11:18 PM

katy on July 29, 2011 at 11:18 PM

That link was to the Politico article…

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 11:20 PM

The House is basically powerless by itself.

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM

In the legislative sense….but it can wield enormous influence. Especially now after the American people made their voices heard and their wishes known very clearly last November. The house can stick to the values of the Tea Party and those who oppose it will lose even if the country defaults on it’s debt obligations (which it never will).

We have experienced a sea change in American politics and we need to cease acting like losers.

csdeven on July 29, 2011 at 11:21 PM

“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.”

Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

Made common sense then, makes even more sense today.

coldwarrior on July 29, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Purity of essence!

lexhamfox on July 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Levin’s twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/marklevinshow

katy on July 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM

TEA Party: Hold the line men!

GOP: But it’s hard *cries*

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM

I wonder how much of the problem is in the leadership. I wonder if things would be different if people like Bachmann, Ryan and Pence were in the spots that Boehner and Cantor hold. And you can substitute DeMint for McConnell.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM

here’s IBD’s point of view…focus on 12…the TP has done well

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/580000/201107291854/Wait-Till-2012.htm

r keller on July 29, 2011 at 11:23 PM

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Without the Tea Party you would not have to attempt to mollify anyone because you wouldn’t have the House.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Sorry, Rush, have to disagree with you; Obama is not a loser. Obama is getting everything he wants.

He’s getting a license to spend money, he has manufactured a crisis that he can use as a cudgel to beat up his opponents, he has his base fired up and ready to go, he has made the GOP leadership appear inept, incompetent, craven, and cowardly. He has marginalized the conservative voice in congress, successfully demonized the conservative voice as extreme, and split the GOP into factions. He has paralyzed the US congress, and assumed powers that congress no longer appears able to exercise.

I don’t see Obama losing anything here. The mistake everyone is making is presuming what it is that Obama wants. Don’t listen to what he says, look at what he does.

Skandia Recluse on July 29, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM

There isn’t any line to hold. In the end, the executive and the senate will figure out a way to get around the House and make look like it’s the Republican’s fault. This is NOT going to end well for the House. Boehner really stuck his neck out for the TP when he added that balanced budget amendment to the bill. It died a swift death in the Senate. It’s dead. Done. There is nothing. There is no line to hold.

The Tea Party needs to grow up and learn a little patience. At least 18 more months or so is all it takes but no, like spoiled children, they want to spend all their political capital right now. And they will. Come November 2012, it will be gone and they will have absolutely nothing to show for it.

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Getting shooed out of the room like a child will piss people off.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Ah, so you’ve heard how the Pima County Arizona establishment GOP has treated its Tea Party members. The Pima County GOP establishment has acted like a bunch of frickin’ Democrats. When they wanted to toss the new chairman and the Executive Committee found that it could not do so, they simply changed the by-laws to allow them to do so. During the debate, they locked out the Tea partiers and supporters of the new chairman, even resorting to using the police to keep opponents out of the meeting.

Pima county republicans get zip from us now. We’ll support individual candidates the we vet ourselves and that we know are conservative. The Pima County establishment GOP can go pound sand.

AZfederalist on July 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM

So i wonder if the gop establishment is done running yet and have picked another hill on which not to die.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM

The Tea Party needs to grow up and learn a little patience. At least 18 more months or so is all it takes but no, like spoiled children, they want to spend all their political capital right now. And they will. Come November 2012, it will be gone and they will have absolutely nothing to show for it.

crosspatch on July 29, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Well then maybe all those moderate “serious adults” in the GOP can take up the standard and lead the party to an overwhelming victory in 2012.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:25 PM

Levin’s twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/marklevinshow

katy on July 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Hahaha. Thanks.

Pattosensei on July 29, 2011 at 11:26 PM

This anti-Tea Party sentiment is absurd. Tea Party members have been around forever. Except, say 30 years ago, they weren’t called ‘Tea Party members’. They were called ‘Normal Americans’. Their ideas are being dismissed by the liberal language police who’ve decided that the age-old desire for small government and fiscal responsibility is now ‘extreme’. It’s not extreme. So, GOP House, fight the good fight. You’re not abnormal, your opponents are. Good luck.

joejm65 on July 29, 2011 at 11:26 PM

At least 18 more months or so is all it takes but no, like spoiled children, they want to spend all their political capital right now

Yep, the TP is dead and PBHO will get reelected. Saves you the tiresome duty of trudging to the voting booth to cast a useless vote.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 11:27 PM

r keller on July 29, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Thank you.

INC on July 29, 2011 at 11:28 PM

At least 18 more months or so is all it takes but no, like spoiled children, they want to spend all their political capital right now

Yep, the TP is dead and PBHO will get reelected. Saves you the tiresome duty of trudging to the voting booth to cast a useless vote.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 11:27 PM

Isn’t that just like the GOP moderates though? They really have nothing themselves to offer. They just b1tch and moan about conservatives who stick their necks out.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Except, say 30 years ago, they weren’t called ‘Tea Party members’. They were called ‘Normal Americans’.
joejm65 on July 29, 2011 at 11:26 PM

30 years ago they were called Reagan voters.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Skandia Recluse on July 29, 2011 at 11:23 PM

For what it’s worth his numbers are falling like a rock. He seems uncomfortable to me.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Tea Partyers who mistakenly think they have a mandate. Their sweep in the 2010 election was the exclusive result of anti-Obama sentiment

Do they even teach writing and logical reasoning anymore? Who do you think was behind the anti-Obama sentiment, rocket surgeon?

John the Libertarian on July 29, 2011 at 11:32 PM

Sorry laura, you have shown yourself to be another rich elitist washington slug (unless, of course, you received a manila envelope with pictures of you and your girlfriend and are only trying to protect your livelihood). You keep saying that someone (without defining who)should declare victory. Nothing has been accomplished, how is there a victory? Go back to partying with your washington buddies including all the national review pansies. The American People are either aware of danger we are in from the communists and professional politicians or they aren’t. You could have continued to help enlighten people but you chose harry reid as a lover instead (or his daughter).

Thanks alot.

peacenprosperity on July 29, 2011 at 11:32 PM

they want to spend all their political capital right now

political capital can not be saved. It is eother used or it is lost. Something the Bush wing never understood. bush the first wanted to save his politcal capital after the gulf war for his re-election. He lost to a small madman and a womanizer. bush the second wanted to save his politcal capital. he ended up with a 29% approval rating.

the more successful you are at spending your politcal capital the more it grows. The more you sav eit the less you have.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM

He seems uncomfortable to me.

He’s starting to talk about doing things on his own, damn the Constitution.

peacenprosperity on July 29, 2011 at 11:35 PM

The TEA party participants should be going hammer and tongs against the vulnerable Dems in the Senate and against McConnell.

Why aren’t TEA party members pushing the Senate to un-table the more popular CC and B bill?

FreeRepublic linked to this TalkingPointsMemo piece that claims that Reid will use the McConnell plan to swing the Republicans to his nebulous “plan.” Thanks McConnell.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/reid-aims-for-gop-support-by-adopting-mcconnell-debt-limit-plan-fallback-plan.php

onlineanalyst on July 29, 2011 at 11:35 PM

Skandia Recluse on July 29, 2011 at 11:23 PM

For what it’s worth his numbers are falling like a rock. He seems uncomfortable to me.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Democrats though can usually rest easier knowing that they have most of the media complex and academia on their side.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:36 PM

30 years ago they were called Reagan voters.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 11:30 PM

You got it, and Reagan won two landslides. There were a lot of those folks back then. There are a lot of them now. And they’re being marganilized by people that want to convince America that ‘liberal’ is the new normal. Americans are seeing through this charade, and that’s why BHO is sucking wind in the polls right now. Despite the media’s best efforts, the majority of this country isn’t buying his crap anymore.

joejm65 on July 29, 2011 at 11:37 PM

The House passed one fantastic bill and one ho hum bill, it’s more than anyone else can say.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2011 at 11:37 PM

Why aren’t TEA party members pushing the Senate to un-table the more popular CC and B bill?

Why aren’t bennett and ingraham asking mccain, graham and mcconnell why they allowed reid to table the bill so quickly? Why aren’t bennett and ingraham talking about the 6 to 8 democartas in the senate who are on the record as suppoting as balanced budget amendment?

Because they are part of the washington self annointed ruling elite. ingraham and bennet do not think very highly of Tea Party Patriots.

peacenprosperity on July 29, 2011 at 11:40 PM

Obama hit an all time low 40% today in Gallup.
Tell me again how the TP is losing the debate.

angryed on July 29, 2011 at 11:40 PM

Despite the media’s best efforts, the majority of this country isn’t buying his crap anymore.

joejm65 on July 29, 2011 at 11:37 PM

Still, I don’t think we’re going to be seeing any more Reagan-type landslides anytime soon. The country is far more polarized than it probably even was in 1980.

ddrintn on July 29, 2011 at 11:42 PM

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