Huntsman to Romney: No leadership on the debt-ceiling negotiations, huh?

posted at 9:21 pm on July 29, 2011 by Allahpundit

RINO or not, when you’re right, you’re right. How is that we’ve been through a minor Republican civil war this week and the party’s ostensible frontrunner hasn’t been moved to take a position? I hate to inconvenience his career ambitions, but would it be terribly much to ask for a clear endorsement for or against a bill that the entire conservative world has been obsessing over? Instead we get mealy-mouthed noncommittal statements about the “strong stance” taken by House Republicans paired with reminders that he supports Cut, Cap, and Balance — neither of which answers the question of whether he’d vote for Boehner’s bill. No wonder he’s drawing snotty wisecracks from rival camps. Said Pawlenty’s spokesman, “I’m sure [Romney spokesman Eric] Fehrnstrom will share Gov. Romney’s position as soon as he takes one.” And this from Examiner columnist Timothy Carney: “If you took Obama’s plan and Romney’s plan, and just met in the middle, you’d be in the middle of nowhere.”

I realize he doesn’t want to get between tea partiers and the establishment by firmly choosing one over the other. I also don’t care. Pretend for a minute like you want to be president because you have strong policy preferences, Mitt, and not because it would really round out your resume. Yes or no on Boehner?

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He has wet his finger. He’s just waiting for some wind.

predator on July 29, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Pretend for a minute like you want to be president because you have strong policy preferences, Mitt, and not because it would really round out your resume.

Ouch. Nice one.

Kataklysmic on July 29, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Who is Huntsman and who is Romney?

carbon_footprint on July 29, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Well Huntsman wasn’t a poster child for leaderhsip position either. In fact none of the declared candidates were.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Should be interesting to see Romney’s polling over the next few days.

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Who is Huntsman and who is Romney?

carbon_footprint on July 29, 2011 at 9:25 PM

They’re the Chance brothers–Slim and Nunn.

predator on July 29, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Battle of the Mormons. How or when will Mitt respond.

JimP on July 29, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Leading from the exact middle.

Bishop on July 29, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Geez…now Huntsman is to the right of Romney..who is nowhere and always has been.

AUINSC on July 29, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Just like in the healthcare debate, Romney fails to show up.

As the Romney supporters like to tell us, Romney is the frontrunner. But what kind of leader is he when he cannot tell us how he would act as President.

He is no leader, but rather a spineless politician who is trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

Yes he can raise money and he looks the part, but he does not show leadership skills during times of crisis.

texasconserv on July 29, 2011 at 9:31 PM

And this why I have no use for Mittens. At least when he earned the reputation for being a flip-flopper, it was because he actually took a position on an issue before changing his mind when it became politically advantageous. Now he can’t even be bothered to tell us where he stands on anything of importance.

Doughboy on July 29, 2011 at 9:32 PM

One not leading, one leading in the wrong direction.

Corsair on July 29, 2011 at 9:32 PM

He’ll wait until the crap-o-la bill is signed and then praise the spirit of bi-partisanship

SouthernGent on July 29, 2011 at 9:32 PM

It IS kind of funny …

Obama’s been accused of not leading – but he’s articulated more of an opinion than Mittens has.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Now he can’t even be bothered to tell us where he stands on anything of importance.

Doughboy on July 29, 2011 at 9:32 PM

I think he’s afraid of getting verbally bitch-slapped by MB or SP.

predator on July 29, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Okay, if you’re so lame that Huntsman is calling you out, you’re lame AND pathetic.

AubieJon on July 29, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Huntsman is still seething because Romney was given the OLYMPICS and his dad couldn’t buy it for huntsman. Then Romney did such a good job and literally saved them. Huntsman’s sole purpose is to take Romney out. He’s not to Romney’s right, he might be to the right of obama- his buddy!

Bambi on July 29, 2011 at 9:37 PM

It IS kind of funny …

Obama’s been accused of not leading – but he’s articulated more of an opinion than Mittens has.

HondaV65 on July 29, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Minor difference, Bammie is supposed to be president, now.

slickwillie2001 on July 29, 2011 at 9:37 PM

“His hair was perfect.”
–Warren Zevon

Emperor Norton on July 29, 2011 at 9:38 PM

You people are really morons. Why the hell would Romney step in the middle of this…so that Obama can have another excuse to go on TV.

You people have really lost ur minds. This is Obama’s mess, and he should be stuck with it. Have you people seen the polls? yes, Obama is at 40% and Boehner is at 20%, but unless Obama is running against Boehner next yr, this helps us. This is the same kind of stupid thinking that led to the morons that nominated Christine O’Donnell.

You hv to play a long game. Why the hell will any right thinking candidate get in there now…Why? You people are really dumb.

Chudi on July 29, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Romney needs to woman-up!

Christina_M on July 29, 2011 at 9:39 PM

f.w.i.w., Jennifer Rubin thinks Romney sounds presidential compared to the rest of the pack:

To say that all the default-denying candidates show a distressing shortage of maturity would be an understatement. One would hope that now that there is a final, final bill at least one of the contenders (Romney would be the most obvious) would give thumbs up to those who think they’ve gotten the very best deal possible without endangering the country’s fiscal health. As for the rest, they should consider whether the bulk of Republican primary voters really want their president to sound like a second-rate blogger.

Buy Danish on July 29, 2011 at 9:40 PM

He has wet his finger. He’s just waiting for some wind.

predator on July 29, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Perfect metaphor.

JavelinaBomb on July 29, 2011 at 9:40 PM

You people are really morons.
You people have really lost ur minds.
This is the same kind of stupid thinking that led to the morons that nominated Christine O’Donnell.

Chudi on July 29, 2011 at 9:38 PM

I’m rubber, you’re glue. Bounces off me and sticks to you.

Nyah! Nyah!

Emperor Norton on July 29, 2011 at 9:41 PM

C’mon AllahP, we all know Romney’s choice isn’t just between the Tea Party and establishment Republican stances, right?

JavelinaBomb on July 29, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Perfect metaphor.

JavelinaBomb on July 29, 2011 at 9:40 PM

He has a problem though. The wind never blows when you’re hiding in the closet.

predator on July 29, 2011 at 9:43 PM

I wouldn’t have minded seeing Romney as the nominee.

Until this.

SlimyBill on July 29, 2011 at 9:44 PM

Actually, I thought Huntsman came off badly in this. The whole debt ceiling debate is a high-stakes game that few presidential candidates can affect (that is, the few that are sitting members of House). In the off-chance GOP congress loses this fight, Republicans have to preserve the viability of the presidential candidates.

It’s strategically very foolish of Huntsman to get into this fight—or drag others into it.

novakyu on July 29, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Who is this Huntsman fellow?

John the Libertarian on July 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Who is this Huntsman fellow?

John the Libertarian on July 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM

I asked the same question. Perplexed.

carbon_footprint on July 29, 2011 at 9:53 PM

In the off-chance GOP congress loses this fight, Republicans have to preserve the viability of the presidential candidates.

No one will care 15 months from now, and Huntsman himself has taken a stand on behalf of Boehner. Why can’t Romney choose? Bachmann actually had to vote on this thing, and yet Mitt runs from the issue. It bugs me a lot.

Allahpundit on July 29, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Mitt it is not hard to lead here is an example:

@BarackObama wants us to contact Congress. Great idea! Tell them to rein in our dangerously unsustainable debt to protect our credit rating.

@BarackObama wants us to support a “balanced deficit solution.” Great idea! How about a balanced budget amendment?

@BarackObama you’re wrong, threatening to throw seniors under the bus because you refuse to prioritize govt spending.Time to #womanup & lead

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 9:54 PM

predator on July 29, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Good one!

TXUS on July 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM

and yet Mitt runs from the issue. It bugs me a lot.

Allahpundit on July 29, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Which is why he has no business being in the Oval Office.

predator on July 29, 2011 at 9:56 PM

It bugs me a lot.

Allahpundit on July 29, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Mitt has been doing this for the last three years not sure why it would bug you now. was this just a bridge too far?

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Mitt has run away from every issue and topic so much that he has become a joke and people laugh at him and make bets on how long after the event is over that he will respond.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 9:58 PM

He has a problem though. The wind never blows when you’re hiding in the closet.

predator on July 29, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Politicians rarely get hurt by not saying something. I don’t like it either but it’s just the way it is. If it were true, Obama wouldn’t have a 45% approval rating, and he’s been in the closet for years.

JavelinaBomb on July 29, 2011 at 9:59 PM

the party’s ostensible frontrunner hasn’t been moved to take a position

But… she did.

faraway on July 29, 2011 at 9:59 PM

This whole effort in the House this week ultimately helps Romney.

Besides, why should he insert himself when Obama is busy running against John Boehner.

SlaveDog on July 29, 2011 at 9:59 PM

Mitt has been doing this for the last three years not sure why it would bug you now. was this just a bridge too far?

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 9:56 PM

No, I’ve flagged his indecision before. But I do look forward to being called a Romney shill the next time I criticize Palin, notwithstanding posts like this.

Allahpundit on July 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Politicians rarely get hurt by not saying something. I don’t like it either but it’s just the way it is. If it were true, Obama wouldn’t have a 45% approval rating, and he’s been in the closet for years.

JavelinaBomb on July 29, 2011 at 9:59 PM

So that’s where he cast those 93 “present” votes from as an Illinois senator–the closet! ;~)

predator on July 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM

But I do look forward to being called a Romney shill the next time I criticize Palin, notwithstanding posts like this.

Allahpundit on July 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM

So… it’s a faint?

faraway on July 29, 2011 at 10:04 PM

Allahpundit on July 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM

ROMNEY SHILL! *thought I’d save you the wait*

predator on July 29, 2011 at 10:05 PM

oops, feint

faraway on July 29, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Maybe he should’ve stopped his campaign ala what McCain did during TARP…oh wait that sucked.

Jennifer Rubin is right about Romney:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/presidential-candidates-dont-sound-so-presidential/2011/03/29/gIQAx51beI_blog.html

Everyone else(Palin and Perry especially)ouch!:

“As for the rest, they should consider whether the bulk of Republican primary voters really want their president to sound like a second-rate blogger.”

sheryl on July 29, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Obama never took a stand on anything and now he’s President. Meanwhile, every favorite of conservatives has come out with a statement on every issue and yet Romney’s still the frontrunner. He knows the score, baby.

JavelinaBomb on July 29, 2011 at 10:07 PM

He knows the score, baby.

JavelinaBomb on July 29, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Maybe. But when the primaries heat up he’ll have to start issuing statements, and then he’ll see the real “score.” And he won’t like it.

predator on July 29, 2011 at 10:13 PM

and yet Mitt runs from the issue. It bugs me a lot.

Allahpundit on July 29, 2011 at 9:53 PM

I appreciate you stating that!

Romney also did this during the healthcare debate.

He is not just a fencesitter, he is afraid to come down from the fence for fear of landing on the wrong side.

He would be a president of pale pastels.

texasconserv on July 29, 2011 at 10:16 PM

No, I’ve flagged his indecision before. But I do look forward to being called a Romney shill the next time I criticize Palin, notwithstanding posts like this.

Allahpundit on July 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM

I don’t know what Palin has to do with what I asked, but hey whatever.

You comment about Mitt was a dog bites man comment so I was just interested why this event made you snap.

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 10:18 PM

So why the surprise?

Romney showed no leadership whatever during the State-sponsored-government-takeover-of-Heath-Care debate; a debate that raged for months on end and threatened the basis of what has made America great by its sweeping bureaucratic encroachment on Free-Enterprise, innovation and Free-Markets.

Mitt went totally AWOL as if the issue would magically vanish. I suppose he thought his absence would not call attention to the fact that uncanny similarities exist in its architectural blue-prints with ObamaCare.

Mitt could have been a hero by adMITTing that RomneyCare was a mistake and that we shouldn’t implement it Nationally.

But alas, even AxelRod had the wherewithal to own Mitt by saying that ObamaCare was in essence spawned from Mitt’s master-zygote of an idea.

As it stands now Mitt can hardly broach the subject in a debate with Obama; or anyone else for that matter, unless of course it is to champion the merits of the idea or down-play the magnitude of the long term ill-consequences.

Geochelone on July 29, 2011 at 10:19 PM

What possible good would it do? Would one vote be changed? This was Kubuki theater, everyone knew the outcome, the Tea Party was posturing, the Democrats were posturing, the President was, well being stupid.

But in the end, nothing that was done this week makes any difference. The ceiling will be raised just like always and nothing will get done until the next election.

We are lucky that the President was and idiot too. Or we would have lost the whole chance to right this country.

Reid will now do his thing, maybe it will pass, maybe not, but in the end there will be a completely meaningless bill that raises the debt ceiling and not much else.

Until we have the Whitehouse and both houses of Congress nothing can be done.

Getting caught up in meaningless legislation is fine for minor candidates but Romney has a chance to win. He needs to be careful about alienating voters over meaningless symbolic votes.

What if he said, don’t pass anything, and they didn’t and then the country defaulted? And it turned out as bad as some predict, then what? He gives up the Whitehouse to say a silly meaningless thing?

Romney said he supported Boehner’s efforts. He said he would handle the whole thing differently than Obama is handling it. And he said we should not spend more than we take in.

At least he didn’t play mafia girl and threaten our leaders with a Primary challange like some imature want-to-bes.

Michelle Bachman was an idiot, she played to the President’s tune the whole time. Talk about living up to a stereotype. I thought she might actually have a chance. Now I know, she doesn’t have what it takes to be President. She is exactly like Obama, only her politics are different, but the temperment and judgement are just as faulty. She is as high as she needs to be and thankfully has little chance to move higher.

We need a grown up in the Whitehouse, thank heavens there is one running.

Do no harm. This was and is very harmful, it can’t be resolved this way. And people are going to lose money and jobs. All for what? We pretend we made some little tiny cuts?

This whole debacle was not worth it. At least one candidate has some dignity left.

Play in the mud with pigs and you get mud all over you.

petunia on July 29, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Good for Huntsman. He’s actually gives us a specific position on our debt and deficit crisis.

Frank T.J Mackey on July 29, 2011 at 10:21 PM

At least one candidate has some dignity left.

petunia on July 29, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Yeap Palin emerged as the only outsider that can now run against not only Obama but the gop estabishment. She just set up a Reaganite rematch with the bush wing…

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 10:23 PM

I wonder if a FB posting by Romney would have held up the Boehner bill for a day?

faraway on July 29, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Yeap Palin emerged as the only outsider that can now run against not only Obama but the gop estabishment. She just set up a Reaganite rematch with the bush wing…

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 10:23 PM

I think you are correct.

SheetAnchor on July 29, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Mitt basically is looking at the polls and has decided he’s going to try and run out the clock by neither saying nor doing anything controversial. The problem is there are still three minutes left in the first quarter and he’s trying to sit on his lead.

That doesn’t bode well for Romney if he has any sort of setback at all, because he’ll have nothing to remind voters of how strong he was on any of the key issues leading into the main part of primary season (my guess is that when Romney finally does either start trailing another GOP candidate in the polls or has a surprise early primary setback, he’s suddenly going to have an opinion about EVERYTHING, and will be wanting to share them with everyone, in a desperate falling attempt to find some issue to latch onto in hopes of righting his campaign).

jon1979 on July 29, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Michelle Bachman was an idiot, she played to the President’s tune the whole time. Talk about living up to a stereotype.

I thought she might actually have a chance. Now I know, she doesn’t have what it takes to be President.

She is exactly like Obama, only her politics are different, but the temperment and judgement are just as faulty.

She is as high as she needs to be and thankfully has little chance to move higher.

petunia on July 29, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Just what stereotype is Bachmann living up to? The same stereotype that has been imprinted on your mind about Southerners? Or Women?

Or perhaps some other antiquated stereotype that resides in your Archie Bunker mentality?

What a shame it is that the only way you can elevate Mitt is to bash the other candidates with outrageous, utterly mean spirited non-policy-based SMEARS.

Geochelone on July 29, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Who is Huntsman and who is Romney?

carbon_footprint on July 29, 2011 at 9:25 PM

They’re the Chance brothers–Slim and Nunn.

predator on July 29, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Well played, gentlemen.

kim roy on July 29, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Geochelone on July 29, 2011 at 10:41 PM

its what they do

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM

petunia on July 29, 2011 at 10:20 PM

I agree! He can’t do anything right, no matter how he came out on this issue the HA bloggers would go after him. Let’s wait until the debates, or the primaries.
We all know obama is a weazle!
We can’t do anything lasting until we have the white house and the senate!

Bambi on July 29, 2011 at 10:50 PM

petunia on July 29, 2011 at 10:20 PM

I am happy to read one sensible post here today. i have been wondering recently if any of these so-called conservatives actually had a brain, or if Obama and Pelosi performed a lobotomy on them in the middle of the night.

Why the hell would any right thinking person get involved in this, if they are not already obligated to be involved. Nobody in this nonsense looks good. The country is not made up of only tea-party morons. I thought Christine O’Donnell would have taught people a lesson.

About the drama queen, I have no comment about her. She is just a drama queen…threatening to primary people, what a joke.

Chudi on July 29, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Mittens is a yellow sissy and I will NEVER vote for him to be my POTUS.

AH_C on July 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Willard leading on something?

Yeah, while we’re at it, maybe we can convince dogs not to lick themselves…or Dems to have ideas.

I like our odds on the former better than the latter…or anything involving leadership and Willard.

SuperCool on July 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM

Mitt it is not hard to lead here is an example:

@BarackObama wants us to contact Congress. Great idea! Tell them to rein in our dangerously unsustainable debt to protect our credit rating.

@BarackObama wants us to support a “balanced deficit solution.” Great idea! How about a balanced budget amendment?

@BarackObama you’re wrong, threatening to throw seniors under the bus because you refuse to prioritize govt spending.Time to #womanup & lead

unseen on July 29, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Too bad those tweets weren’t seen by anyone, considering his flunky was tweeting the his boss was such a social media savant earlier. Just more hype for an empty suit.

AH_C on July 29, 2011 at 11:27 PM

This was a politician’s game. The one-up-man’s-ship… the pretending they care about this country while they burn it to the ground.

If a business was run this way it would fail. A country can not succeed with this kind of egotistic idiosy either!

So the career politicians all had their say. They all gloat about how very clever they are… while the problem is as big as ever, with no end in sight.

Mitt Romney is a businessman. That is why he is’nt willing to burn the building to make a point.

This is politics as usual, this battle is exactly what I want to stop. I want the small minded politicians to shut the hell up and fix the problems!!!!!

You don’t balance a budget, or produce even one job by the kind of spectical that went on in Washington this week.

Anyone who had any part of that should never be allowed to hold office in this country again. Especially the on lookers who refused to keep thier damn mouths shut and fanned the flames of ego!!!!!

Dancing with glee at the attention they are getting. I bet they all sell lots of books.

I want the problems solved. That means Palin, Bachman and any of the other idiots who preened and postured for the glory of the fight need to step aside and never ever ever show their sorry faces in public again. They did nothing to help this country or our economy, they are pretenders, looking for glory at the expense of this country!!!!

Nothing was changed one wit!!!! Don’t you get it?

It was entertainment, reality TV, it was BAD!

Nothing happened that wouldn’t have happened if they had just done a stupid clean vote!!!!!!!!

They accomplished nothing of value!!! We are exactly where we were before!!!!

We have got to find some grown ups to run this government!!!

petunia on July 29, 2011 at 11:28 PM

About the drama queen, I have no comment about her. She is just a drama queen…threatening to primary people, what a joke.

Chudi on July 29, 2011 at 10:50 PM

How many people did she help get elected last November? Far more than you did, zeroboy.

fossten on July 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM

I want the problems solved. That means Palin, Bachman and any of the other idiots who preened and postured for the glory of the fight need to step aside and never ever ever show their sorry faces in public again. They did nothing to help this country or our economy, they are pretenders, looking for glory at the expense of this country!!!!

petunia on July 29, 2011 at 11:28 PM

What was Palin supposed to do? She’s not an elected official.

You’re really, really dumb, you know that?

fossten on July 29, 2011 at 11:55 PM

Huntsman is right: Mitt has voted present.

AshleyTKing on July 30, 2011 at 12:01 AM

huntably er something like that huntmey..

who cares

amend2 on July 30, 2011 at 12:15 AM

Lots of MittWits here tonight. We all know why Petunia supports Romney but why would the others support someone who is so hollow, so unprincipled, so cowardly and so lacking in leadership ability?

bw222 on July 30, 2011 at 1:30 AM

There’s been so much real news lately, HA almost neglected its campaigning for Huntsman.

MassVictim on July 30, 2011 at 8:00 AM

The Last Man Standing strategy means never having to commit to a position you might be embarrassed by later.

Never mind principles — the point is, Mitt’s the right man for the job.

J.E. Dyer on July 30, 2011 at 10:40 AM

At least he didn’t play mafia girl and threaten our leaders with a Primary challange like some imature want-to-bes.petunia on July 29, 2011 at 10:20 PM

LOL….too funny!

The losers in this debate have been Obama and the Democrats, the Tea Party brand and the politicians/pundits most associated with that brand.

The winners are the adults in the room: Boehner, Ryan and the politicans & pundits backing Cut Cap Balance plan/philosophy. Like Mitt Romney, who has remained focused on shining the light on Obama’s failed leadership and has stayed above the fray by not attacking or taking cheap shots for political expediency at the other candidates running for the presidency. Romney is a class act.

sheryl on July 30, 2011 at 12:08 PM

petunia on July 29, 2011 at 11:28 PM

Speaking of drama queens………………

Solaratov on July 30, 2011 at 1:49 PM