Surprise: Anti-war group a little embarrassed by connection to Abdo

posted at 6:54 pm on July 28, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Raw Story should get a lot of credit for covering the attempted cover-up by a well-known anti-war group after cause celebre-turned-embarrassment Nasser Jason Abdo’s arrest earlier today.  Earlier today, commenters reminded us of the sympathetic treatment Abdo got from CNN for borderline insubordination when Abdo decided that he suddenly didn’t want to go to Afghanistan after, er, enlisting in the Army while we were at war there.  At least they didn’t scrub their sites of the connection:

Pfc. Nasser Abdo, the 21-year-old soldier arrested Thursday in connection with an alleged plot to attack Fort Hood, had ties to a number of prominent anti-war organizations, including Iraq Veterans Against the War and Courage to Resist, Raw Story can confirm.

Abdo, who went AWOL from duty over the July 4 weekend after being charged with possession of child pornography, was an applicant for conscientious objector (CO) status, supported by the Oakland-based GI rights group Courage to Resist. In turn, his efforts to resist deployment were supported by Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW), one of the best-known anti-war groups in the nation. …

In the wake of Abdo’s arrest, Courage to Resist removed a page on their website that detailed Abdo’s plight, but it was preserved through Google cache. Reached by Raw Story, Jeff Paterson, the group’s project director, acknowledged that they had tried to cover up their involvement with the soldier and said they would be issuing a statement in the coming hours.

IVAW hasn’t done anything to cover up its link to Abdo, but they hastened to tell Raw Story that they’re ditching him now.  Or, more accurately, they’re denying that there is any connection to ditch:

“We have worked with him in the past, but he was not ever a member of this organization,” the spokesperson said. “We have had three interactions with him in the past: We supported his application as a conscientious objector; we publicized a statement by him condemning Islamophobia; and finally, he lended his support to our ‘Operation Recovery’ campaign last Veteran’s Day. Besides that, we do not have a concrete link with him.

That makes the same kind of sense as Abdo’s enlisting in the military during a war in Afghanistan and then suddenly declaring he has moral compunctions about the war in Afghanistan.  Here’s a clue, folks; if he worked on your campaign and you published his statement, then you’re connected to him.  It doesn’t take a W-4 or a membership card to make that connection, especially if the group publicly defended Abdo for his odd request.

Raw Story’s source at Courage to Resist engages in a little more denial as well:

“We’re shocked [at Abdo's arrest],” Paterson said. “I believe he had some significant mental health issues that became apparent as we worked with him. He had a particular version of Islam that was certainly … He was disrespectful to women. These were the kinds of issues we argued over late last year. It’s not a religious thing, it’s a matter of human decency.”

I suspect that the “thing” will turn out to be religious at least on Abdo’s part, just as it was on Nidal Hasan’s part when he massacred 14 people at Fort Hood almost two years ago.  The question will be whether Abdo had connections to certain other groups — like, for instance, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, as Hasan did — and whether the Army knew that Abdo presented a risk and didn’t address it, as also happened with Hasan.

CBS has a feel-good update to the story this afternoon.  Abdo got caught because of an alert retired police officer — who happens to work at a gun store:

A law enforcement official told CBS News that Abdo had asked how to build explosives at a gun store near Fort Hood. His questions about explosives made the gun store worker suspicious and contact police, the official said. When police questioned Abdo at his motel, he made references to a plan to kill or injure people.

Gun store clerk Greg Ebert, a 17-year veteran of the Killeen police force who retired in 2010, said a customer arrived by taxi Tuesday at Guns Galore LLC, where the 2009 Fort Hood rampage suspect bought a pistol used in the attack. The customer bought 6 pounds of smokeless gunpowder, three boxes of shotgun ammunition and a magazine for a semi-automatic pistol, paying about $250. …

“(We) felt uncomfortable with his overall demeanor and the fact he didn’t know what the hell he was buying,” Ebert said. “I thought it prudent to contact the local authorities, which I did.”

As we continue to press the Obama administration on their Fast and Furious debacle, which seems as if it was aimed to paint gun shops as enablers of arms trafficking, this serves as a good reminder that the employees at these stores are usually conscientious about their work.

Update: Andrew Malcolm noticed the retired-cop connection earlier today.

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Forget the possible terrorism angle for a minute. Anyone in this country who wants to reinstitute the draft, and there are some folks that do, has to realize that this is the kind of moron our military will have to deal with on a regular basis. He enlists when there’s a war going on, but decides he doesn’t want to be deployed? Multiply this by 10,000 – 20,000 if there’s a draft. No thanks.

joejm65 on July 28, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Abdo, who went AWOL from duty over the July 4 weekend after being charged with possession of child pornography

What is it with Muslim terrorists and pornography? I thought this was something they were fighting against.

Tommy_G on July 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Shouldn’t “Conscientious Objector” status have been retired when we did away with the draft? Who joins Army to not fight?

He was caught by local gun dealers the Obama/Holder/ATF administration are demonizing as part of their efforts in selling thousands of guns to Mexican Narco-Terrorists. So isn’t it doubly ironic that Obama is promising racial preferences to La Raza just as the Obama/Holder/ATF administration provided firearms are killing thousands of La Razans.

DANEgerus on July 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM

joejm65 on July 28, 2011 at 7:01 PM

That’s a great point and we do not need a draft again.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Shouldn’t “Conscientious Objector” status have been retired when we did away with the draft?
DANEgerus on July 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM

I wondered that as well.

CW on July 28, 2011 at 7:07 PM

So the Army – the FBI – the U.S. military didn’t catch him. A citizen with a back ground in law enforcement caught him.

What does the DHS have to say for this turn of events. Well he wasn’t a senior in a wheelchair fighting cancer…..how would we have known what to look for/

Dr Evil on July 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM

What is it with Muslim terrorists and pornography? I thought this was something they were fighting against.

Tommy_G on July 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Nope, they’re looking at potential brides…

Aquateen Hungerforce on July 28, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Eric Holder to subpoena Greg Ebert in 5… 4… 3…

Seven Percent Solution on July 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM

I’m sure Anderson Cooper will apologize tonight for CNN’s calling Abdo a hero.

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Del Dolemonte on July 28, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Anti-war group

CNN?

faraway on July 28, 2011 at 7:14 PM

[W]e publicized a statement by him condemning Islamophobia…”

“He had a particular version of Islam that was certainly … He was disrespectful to women.”

“Curse your Islamophobia, you infidel whoremongers!”

Fabozz on July 28, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Two others in custody?

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:17 PM

From the cached Courage to Resist page:

In a statement in a press conference earlier last month, Pfc. Abdo was clear in making this connection:

“In reference to ‘Islamophobia’ as it pertains to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan there is much that I have come to understand as a Muslim Conscientious Objector. As a Conscientious Objector, I am morally disinclined to associate terror with Islam as is often the case during routine training exercises…To a soldier, the association of terror and Islam serves the purpose of falsely justifying ones actions in combat by stripping Muslims of their humanity. The association of terror and Islam is what we now refer to as ‘Islamophobia.’…It is as if the U.S. public is just recently following a trend that has been rampant in the military for years. Only when the military and America can disassociate Muslims from terror can we move onto a brighter future of religious collaboration and dialogue that defines America and makes me proud to be an American.”

RBMN on July 28, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Anti-christian bigot?

faraway on July 28, 2011 at 7:17 PM

What is it with Muslim terrorists and pornography? I thought this was something they were fighting against.

Tommy_G on July 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM

It’s easier to view their 72 virgins while they are still alive.

Electrongod on July 28, 2011 at 7:18 PM

so he, a muslim, talks openly about building explosives in front of a gun store worker in texas, then as soon as cops show up he reveals a murderous plot. he obviously wanted to get caught.

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:19 PM

RBMN on July 28, 2011 at 7:17 PM

I suppose he should have written, “Only when Muslims can disassociate themselves from terror can we move on to a brighhter future…”

I bet the Peace Organization wrote that for him to begin with.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Damn Christian radicals!!!

Oh wait!

capejasmine on July 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM

He had a particular version of Islam that was certainly … He was disrespectful to women.

How’s the weather in the state of Rationalization?

Cindy Munford on July 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Surprised that he’s not associated with the Code Pink hags.

slickwillie2001 on July 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Mental health issues, eh? I guess that would be true of all Islamists, then?

Why not be like Sweden? They consider all criminals to be mentally unbalanced, because, er, they’re breaking laws which no healthy person would do?

disa on July 28, 2011 at 7:22 PM

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Maybe. But it doesn’t erase the facts of the case. A 2nd Muslim had intentions on Fort Hood, that weren’t good. Perhaps he found his soul.

capejasmine on July 28, 2011 at 7:23 PM

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:19 PM

You sound disappointed. I’m relived however he was caught.

But I missed the reference to him talking about building the bomb in front of the gun store worker. Would you link to that for me? I’d appreciate it.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:24 PM

He had a particular version of Islam that was certainly … He was disrespectful to women.

Which version of Islam is respectful to women?

joejm65 on July 28, 2011 at 7:24 PM

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Maybe you get more respect in prison as a jihadist than a pedophile. I think it’s been established that he’s a couple of sandwiches shy of a picnic.

Cindy Munford on July 28, 2011 at 7:26 PM

so he, a muslim, talks openly about building explosives in front of a gun store worker in texas, then as soon as cops show up he reveals a murderous plot. he obviously wanted to get caught.

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Brilliant “logic”.

Del Dolemonte on July 28, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Does anyone have a link to him talking about building the bomb in front of the gun store worker?

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:30 PM

so he, a muslim, talks openly about building explosives in front of a gun store worker in texas, then as soon as cops show up he reveals a murderous plot. he obviously wanted to get caught.

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Sometimes these nuts will fool themselves into thinking that everybody else is on the same page as they are. They expect pats on the back.

RBMN on July 28, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Firing squad report for duty.

jarhead0311 on July 28, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Dig deep enough and there will likely be some like to Republican Liberty Caucus members like Ron Paul as well as their friends at Code Pink.

Kermit on July 28, 2011 at 7:34 PM

A connection to Justin Raimondo and AntiWar.com perhaps???

Just sayin’

ericdondero on July 28, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Gee, this guy is hinky? Who could have known.

I remember years ago watching Roger Moore’s Roger and Me and thinking the only adults in Dearborn with a lick of common sense were the gun store owners. And then years later thinking the same thing about Columbine. People who trade in firearms with the general public seem to have a pretty good bead on that public. Good work, Mr. Ebert!

SukieTawdry on July 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM

sesquipedalian, I can’t find a quote where he talked about building the bomb in front of the gun store worker. Where is that? Anyone?

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM

But I missed the reference to him talking about building the bomb in front of the gun store worker. Would you link to that for me? I’d appreciate it.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:24 PM

it’s at twelve o’clock:

A law enforcement official told CBS News that Abdo had asked how to build explosives at a gun store near Fort Hood. His questions about explosives made the gun store worker suspicious and contact police, the official said. When police questioned Abdo at his motel, he made references to a plan to kill or injure people.

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Never mind, I see it.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:44 PM

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Sorry to put you to the trouble. I didn’t see it the first time.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:45 PM

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM

you should have read the post you’re commenting on instead of getting all excited about that quote.

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:47 PM

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:45 PM

cheers.

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Somehow, the NY Times is desperately hoping he’s a Christian Fundamentalist, because, you know….he’s just so white lookin’.

Scherzophrenic on July 28, 2011 at 7:50 PM

you should have read the post you’re commenting on instead of getting all excited about that quote.

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Ma’am, I did read the postm and I wasn’t excited. That excerpt was also on another version of the story without that comment and I skimmed over it. And I did say I was sorry I put you to the trouble.

Sorry if you can’t accept that.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Cheers.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:51 PM

We supported his application….; we publicized a statement by him ….; and finally, he lended his support to our ‘Operation Recovery’ campaign last Veteran’s Day. Besides that, we do not have a concrete link with him.

Yeah, no CONCRETE connections at all. Just knew each other in passing on the sidewalk.

That makes the same kind of sense as Abdo’s enlisting in the military during a war in Afghanistan and then suddenly declaring he has moral compunctions about the war in Afghanistan. Here’s a clue, folks; if he worked on your campaign and you published his statement, then you’re connected to him. It doesn’t take a W-4 or a membership card to make that connection, especially if the group publicly defended Abdo for his odd request.

Raw Story’s source at Courage to Resist engages in a little more denial as well:

He had a particular version of Islam that was certainly … He was disrespectful to women.

Huh? Hey ya dumb asses! News Flash! They treat women like dirt. It’s PART of the “religion”. No mental issues at all.

GarandFan on July 28, 2011 at 7:57 PM

is this guy a convert? not that it matters, just curious…

jimver on July 28, 2011 at 8:05 PM

“Curse your Islamophobia, you infidel whoremongers!”

Fabozz on July 28, 2011 at 7:16 PM

A thousand curses be upon you and your father’s father and his father before him, O Fauxboozzle. May you break the leg of the Mahdi as you stumble drunkenly into the well.

talking stick on July 28, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Probably a friend of Adam Kokesh.

Connie on July 28, 2011 at 8:11 PM

From the cached page:

Only when the military and America can disassociate Muslims from terror can we move onto a brighter future of religious collaboration and dialogue that defines America and makes me proud to be an American.

How the heck are WE supposed to do that dissociation? Why don’t MUSLIMS tell the bombers and shooter shouting “Allahu akbar” to STOP? Oh, wait. I already know. They don’t want them to stop.

JimC on July 28, 2011 at 8:14 PM

What is it with Muslim terrorists and pornography? I thought this was something they were fighting against.

Tommy_G on July 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM

They are against societies that tolerate it. Whereas Judaeo-Christian teaching is that Mankind is fallen from God’s grace and must be redeemed, many in the Muslim tradition believe Muslims are already walking in fidelity with God, and have only to lose that fidelity (thus the emphasis on “infadels”). That’s why we’re the great satan, because the West is that great temptress that offers things and ideas long since prohibited and hidden away in Muslim nations.

I compare Christians to trees in a nursery that have to grow in the open, exposed to storms, disease and drought, the same conditions that will prevail at the customer’s home, for whom only the few most beautiful specimens will be bought. Muslims are more like trees grown indoors, given ample water and nourishment, tied up to grow straight and trimmed to be perfect, that when transplanted outdoors many wither away.

shuzilla on July 28, 2011 at 8:15 PM

I remember years ago watching Roger Moore’s Roger and Me and thinking the only adults in Dearborn with a lick of common sense were the gun store owners. And then years later thinking the same thing about Columbine. People who trade in firearms with the general public seem to have a pretty good bead on that public. Good work, Mr. Ebert!

SukieTawdry on July 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Roger Moore is a former James Bond who was knighted by the Queen a few years back. Michael Moore makes Jabba the Hut look like the poster…thing for Anorexia.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2011 at 8:19 PM

More briefly, it is the society that offers the pronography that is to be judged and condemned, not the brother who would otherwise have not been tempted were it not placed in his reach. Of course, this is the political aspect of Islam, wherein hatred and retribution can be ginned up against just about any entity in the name of preserving the fidelity of Muslims.

shuzilla on July 28, 2011 at 8:20 PM

I’m about to invoke ‘Godwin’s Law’ by saying that that photo of Abdo reminds me of the ice-cold gaze that stares out from photos of the SS. That should be surprising-considering that Abdo likely share view that are similar to what the SS believed…at least as far as Jews are concerned.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM

What is it with Muslim terrorists and pornography? I thought this was something they were fighting against.

Tommy_G on July 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Child pornography.

Nice faux religion, huh?

98ZJUSMC on July 28, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Sorry guys but I think a good portion of the credit for this goes to the guys over at This Ain’t Hell, often times referred to Blackfives’ farm team. Those guys do more to debunk and expose all the phony soldiers out there as well as being a good source for issues related to veterans and the military in general. Jonn, TSO, and the contributors to that blog are probably one of the biggest secrets when it comes to covering military stuff, and I don’t understand why.

Just A Grunt on July 28, 2011 at 8:50 PM

All remember what the Army’s top dog said after Fort Hood now, “Diversity is our greatest strength”.

Diversity Akbar! Allah be Praised.

Lon Chaney on July 28, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Forget the possible terrorism angle for a minute. Anyone in this country who wants to reinstitute the draft, and there are some folks that do, has to realize that this is the kind of moron our military will have to deal with on a regular basis. He enlists when there’s a war going on, but decides he doesn’t want to be deployed? Multiply this by 10,000 – 20,000 if there’s a draft. No thanks.

joejm65 on July 28, 2011 at 7:01 PM

You vastly overrate the charms of our present day military.

Lon Chaney on July 28, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Odd how an overwhelmingly non-career military, with a lot of draftees, beat both the very formidable German and Japanese military machines, and in less than 4 years, and our present day all career force is still slogging around aimlessly in Afghanistan after almost 10 years.

Lon Chaney on July 28, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Anti-war group

CNN?

faraway on July 28, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Strong work.

rickyricardo on July 28, 2011 at 9:25 PM

So did granny groping catch another one?

seven on July 28, 2011 at 9:36 PM

The question will be whether Abdo had connections to certain other groups — like, for instance, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, as Hasan did — and whether the Army knew that Abdo presented a risk and didn’t address it, as also happened with Hasan.

You know, they don’t have to be affiliated with the teeny tiny fringe group of nearly extinct guys who hi jacked a wonderful religion back in the first days of the fairy tale. He is a Muslim, that’s all the credentials he needs.

I’m about to invoke ‘Godwin’s Law’ by saying that that photo of Abdo reminds me of the ice-cold gaze that stares out from photos of the SS. That should be surprising-considering that Abdo likely share view that are similar to what the SS believed…at least as far as Jews are concerned.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Now the SS were bad dudes and don’t represent the entire German race. Just like Jihadis aren’t everyone in Islam. And the majority of Germans never backed the Waffen SS did they? Just like a majority of Islam would never back their Jihadi boys would they?

BL@KBIRD on July 28, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Lon Chaney on July 28, 2011 at 9:01 PM

They sure could use your help. Sounds like you’d know what to do.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 10:26 PM

At least the Vietnam Veterans Against the War had the draft as an excuse.

cartooner on July 28, 2011 at 10:46 PM

I’m not sure if many caught this one from the ABC news story

When he was arrested, Abdo was in possession of large quantities of ammunition, weapons and what appeared to be the makings of a bomb, according to early accounts from law enforcement. He had also apparently purchased an Army uniform with Fort Hood patches from a local surplus store.

That should scare the pants off some people in charge.

William Teach on July 28, 2011 at 10:49 PM

Mil bloggers have been all over this guy over the past few years-

I am just waiting for the HuffPo to declare this to be a false flag operation to distract from that racist Christian right winger in Norway.

thuljunior on July 28, 2011 at 10:55 PM


… Courage to Resist …

REAL courage is found in those who fight the enemy so that our wives and children don’t have to.

Tony737 on July 28, 2011 at 11:04 PM

What is it with Muslim terrorists and pornography? I thought this was something they were fighting against.

Tommy_G on July 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM

This is a religion that sanctions the rape of infidels. mohammad (the perfect example for all time) did it and gave his blessing for his men to do it. In fact, there’s been a push on Arab TV in the past few months to reinstitute the sex slave trade. (Officially and in the open. Many of the Indonesian and Filipino maids working in Saudi Arabia and other oil countries are already abused as sex slaves.) The suggestion has been for Chechnyan muslims to capture Russian blonds and transport them to the Middle East.

Now, do you really think muslim men have a problem with porn so long as they are looking a nude infidels?

CJ on July 28, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Surprised that he’s not associated with the Code Pink hags.

slickwillie2001 on July 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM

You beat me to it!
I wouldn’t still be surprised if they were associated.

BTW, the group who blew up our towers went to have lap dances before they killed all those innocents.
Some religious training!

Bambi on July 28, 2011 at 11:12 PM

I am just waiting for the HuffPo to declare this to be a false flag operation to distract from that racist Christian right winger in Norway.

thuljunior on July 28, 2011 at 10:55 PM

HuffPo already has this story pushed down to the bottom of the page, with no mention of the guy’s anti-war connections. They’re all excited now that some nutbag threw a Molotov at a Planned Parenthood building. See, all the terrorists are rightwingers.

juliesa on July 28, 2011 at 11:21 PM

They sure could use your help. Sounds like you’d know what to do.

hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 10:26 PM

I do know many things not to do and you know what they say about being in the land of the blind.

Lon Chaney on July 28, 2011 at 11:38 PM

“Courage to Resist” and Oakland CA?

Anyone wanna bet Van Jones is part of “Courage to Resist”?

It sounds like something he would say or belong too!

DSchoen on July 29, 2011 at 12:09 AM

So killing American military personnel is o.k., just don’t kill Islamic Jihadi knuckleheads? How does that fit the concientious object talking point? Shouldn’t he be labeled Convenient Objector?

Robert17 on July 29, 2011 at 4:45 AM

Lon Chaney on July 28, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Well gee Lon comparing the current conflicts to WWII works all the way up to the point where you realize that we are not allowed to employ the same tactics used back then. You know that whole carpet bombing entire swaths of the countryside and shooting anyone who lifted a weapon in resistance. Oh yeah there was also the little thing about not sticking our heads so far up our fourth point of contact that we refused to label the enemy.

Other then that yeah it is just like WWII.

Just A Grunt on July 29, 2011 at 7:06 AM

I do know many things not to do and you know what they say about being in the land of the blind.

Lon Chaney on July 28, 2011 at 11:38 PM

You consider them to operate so poorly in this war as to compare them to the blind?

hawkdriver on July 29, 2011 at 8:37 AM

A law enforcement official told CBS News that Abdo had asked how to build explosives at a gun store near Fort Hood. His questions about explosives made the gun store worker suspicious and contact police, the official said. When police questioned Abdo at his motel, he made references to a plan to kill or injure people.

sesquipedalian on July 28, 2011 at 7:44 PM

And had nothing come of it… both the evil gun store clerk and the xenophobic police would have been sued for “profiling” and Time and TNR would each have had a 14-part series on “Hate in America – How American Conservatives Are Using Profiling to Outdo the Nazis”.

mankai on July 29, 2011 at 8:39 AM

joejm65 on July 28, 2011 at 7:01 PM
hawkdriver on July 28, 2011 at 7:04 PM

I submit to you that those who are “pro-draft” want to muck up the military, but the bigger thing they are counting on is that a draft would re-fuel the anti-war movement, which deflated severely when the draft was ended.

LarryD on July 29, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Only when the military and America can disassociate Muslims from terror can we move onto a brighter future of religious collaboration and dialogue that defines America and makes me proud to be an American.”

That’s some good coaching in PC 101 right there. Abdo was obviously just doing his best to help us all “disassociate” terror and Muslims.

inmypajamas on July 29, 2011 at 9:21 AM

So the friendly objector was initially caught with illegal pornography and former anti-war groups were concerned with his “treatment of women”, i.e. a barbaric Muslim supporter -not the sanitized “PC American” kind of “notallMuslimskillpeople” variety.

Good to know he is on the left’s side.

Odie1941 on July 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Only when the military and America can disassociate Muslims from terror can we move onto a brighter future of religious collaboration and dialogue that defines America and makes me proud to be an American.
How the heck are WE supposed to do that dissociation? Why don’t MUSLIMS tell the bombers and shooter shouting “Allahu akbar” to STOP? Oh, wait. I already know. They don’t want them to stop.

JimC on July 28, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Since 9/11? 17,516 Islamic terror attacks
Weekly Jihad Report
Jul 09 – Jul. 15 Jihad Attacks: 35
Allah Akbars: 5
Dead Bodies: 101
Critically Injured: 264

Yea, that’ll “disassociate” terror and the Religion of Peace…

By the way, here is the link…..

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

norm1111 on July 29, 2011 at 12:54 PM