Reports: House GOP lining up behind Boehner’s plan

posted at 4:28 pm on July 27, 2011 by Allahpundit

They’re getting their asses in line.

[T]he opposition bloc led by [Jim] Jordan appears to be crumbling, as leadership’s message seems to be sinking in. Sources tells NRO that a number of members who were confirmed no votes against the Boehner plan announced during the meeting that they would be voting yes. One of those members, Rep. Blake Farenthold (R., Texas) told reporters that while he would like to “snap my fingers and change the world like ‘I Dream of Genie’ of Samantha on ‘Bewitched,’” Republicans “need to take what we can get.”…

Even Rep. Mike Pence (R., Ind.), a prominent conservative with a history of voting against leadership, said he was undecided, but seemed to indicate that he could ultimately support the plan, calling it “an important first step toward fiscal discipline and reform.”…

Members will be presented with an updated draft of the plan later this afternoon, with a vote tentatively scheduled for Thursday. GOP aides won’t predict whether or not they have the votes to pass the plan, but acknowledge things are moving in the right direction. Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.), however, said he thought the plan would pass. Tea-party favorite Allen West (R., Fla.), who supports the plan, said he might be willing to bet his retirement check on it.

Politico has quotes from other Republican freshmen who are softening on the bill. Maybe they could have held out if a few things had broken differently, but between (a) the risk of economic catastrophe from hitting the ceiling, (b) the broken caucus that would have resulted from defeating its own leader’s plan in a high-stakes showdown with Obama, (c) the political cover to vote yes provided by “true conservative” favorites like West, Ryan, Fred Thompson, and John Bolton (even Pence is on the fence), and (d) the backlash against Jim Jordan after one of his staffers allegedly tried to gin up outside pressure on other Republicans, I guess the choice here ended up being easier than thought. In fact, I wonder if Hoyer played into Boehner’s hands a bit by insisting that zero Democrats will vote for Boehner’s bill. He has to play it that way to make things as difficult as possible for the GOP, of course, since that’ll improve the Reid bill’s chances of passage, but he could have done so quietly. If House conservatives were led to believe that some Blue Dogs might vote with Boehner, it would have eased the new “circle the wagons” mindset and maybe encouraged more of them to hold out. Instead, thanks to Obama’s veto threat and the prospect of a unified Democratic opposition, the caucus is facing a “vote against Boehner is a vote for Reid” dilemma. Not much of a dilemma, really. As it is, one House source tells NRO’s Robert Costa that the final vote might not even be close.

Ironically, Boehner may also benefit from delaying the vote by a day in order to rework his bill after its disappointing CBO score. The market was down 199 points today, its biggest drop in almost two months; GOP fencesitters might dismiss that as a standard blip, but I encourage you to read this Megan McArdle post recounting her chat with Wall Street sources about why the market hasn’t tanked yet. It’s not because they think hitting the ceiling is no big deal, it’s because they think it’s such an enormously big deal that they simply can’t believe Congress will let it happen, even at this late hour. (And yeah, it’s true that we won’t default on August 2nd — even Carney now admits that — but the sudden drop in government outlays after we prioritize payments to creditors would still be a blow to the economy. Just ask Paul Ryan.) Can’t wait to see their reaction if Boehner’s bill ends up tanking after all.

For your viewing pleasure, here’s Reid insisting that Boehner’s bill doesn’t have a prayer in the Senate. Let’s see what he says on Friday, if/when JB’s bill has passed the House and Reid’s bill has died in the Senate. Exit quotation from Mike Crapo, commenting on the sudden surge of Republican support for Boehner: “It looks like they are going to have the votes to get it through.”

Update: Sorry, pasted the wrong video clip below. Here’s Reid.

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The lesser of two evils again.

volsense on July 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM

and boner surrenders.

Big surprise.

Tim_CA on July 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Pass the soap.

faraway on July 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM

The lesser of two evils again.
volsense on July 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Until we get to heaven that is often our only choice. So you’re just noticing the obvious.

If we were on a lifeboat and I had to cut your hand off with a Swiss Army Knife because it was gangrenous, that would be an evil but it would negate the greater evil of letting you die a long and awful death.

Akzed on July 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Any iron-clad cuts? Amount by year?

Or does it have to pass for us to know what’s in it?

tomg51 on July 27, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Whig, meet GOP.

GOP, meet the political graveyard.

Any questions?

Steve Eggleston on July 27, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Boehner sure can whip those spineless Republican’s into shape, I only wish he would wipe off his chin first after he’s finished servicing the Democrats.

FloatingRock on July 27, 2011 at 4:35 PM

If this is the best we can do, we’re in alot more trouble than I thought we were in.

The Retreat bugle has been blown.

portlandon on July 27, 2011 at 4:35 PM

We’ll have the senate and WH next year. Only then can we turn the screws. And I have the feeling that the screws will be turned with alacrity.

Akzed on July 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Shiz, all Boehner should have to do is tack on a few more billions, game the rules like Reid did with the war funding, and tada, he has the bigger bill and lets see Barry try to shoot that down.

Zaggs on July 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Same old crap. No real cut, spending still increases every year, and the debt ceiling goes up trillions.

Why do we even bother?

Common Sense on July 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM

AND THE BAND PLAYED ON!

HondaV65 on July 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Ok. Support it.

We already know who the RINOs are and we will have to primary those people. Maybe we will be able to get 63+ additional conservatives to remake the GOP.

It seems to be the only way.

Sporty1946 on July 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM

volsense on July 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Were you on-board with CC&B?

ThePrez on July 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Sad. If they had a better leader, one who was politcally astute instead of a sad sack Repub who, typically, doesn’t know how to play a winning hand, they could get a better deal, IMO.

JimP on July 27, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Until we get to heaven that is often our only choice. So you’re just noticing the obvious.

If we were on a lifeboat and I had to cut your hand off with a Swiss Army Knife because it was gangrenous, that would be an evil but it would negate the greater evil of letting you die a long and awful death.

Akzed on July 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Uh, no. Bleeding to death is much faster.

fossten on July 27, 2011 at 4:37 PM

I’ve been an Independent all of my adult life but to my Republican friends here I say, did Boehner switch parties? Is he really going to drag so many other Republicans along with him?

FloatingRock on July 27, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Jay Carney: Ed Henry is not on the team anymore.

d1carter on July 27, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Just wondering … is Allen West going to demand any apologies from the GOP elites who’ve been calling the Tea Party radicals?

I mean – if TP lawmakers are going to line up behind this plan – after being called such dispicable names by their own party …

Well … they look like chumps.

HondaV65 on July 27, 2011 at 4:38 PM

I’m so sick of this crap. Just pass Boehner’s plan, tell Reid his plans DOA in the House and that he can choose from among the Ryan budget, CCB/BBA or the Boehner plan. Then just end it. Toss it over to the Senate and force the upper chamber to sweat a bit along with Obama. As far as reality goes, I suggest continuing to stockpile and finding ways to help out in your local community if and when the fit hits the shan.

Weight of Glory on July 27, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Right after this passes, Mitt Romney will endorse it.

portlandon on July 27, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Why don’t we just disband the GOP! They are nothing but Democrat lite. They disgust me more than I can express without a truck load of expletives.

flytier on July 27, 2011 at 4:40 PM

The end of the GOP cometh.

promachus on July 27, 2011 at 4:40 PM

If Boehner’s debt capitulation passes, the Democrats will spend all their time shouting scary stories and herding terrified RINOS from place to place.

Once the RINO’s prove that they are simply sheep to be herded, there will be nothing to slow down additional Liberal outrages.

landlines on July 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM

landlines on July 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM

AMEN!@!!!

flytier on July 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM

What a bunch of stinkin, freakin losers.

stenwin77 on July 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM

They’re getting their asses in line.

Good. Give me a break. If Boehner’s bill goes down say hello to the Reid bill and a HUGE victory for Obama. They don’t understand that? The way they were going after Boehner yesterday was unreal.

Tasha on July 27, 2011 at 4:42 PM

The end of the GOP cometh.

promachus on July 27, 2011 at 4:40 PM

She will blow the Charge Bugle, while the GOP is blowing Retreat.

portlandon on July 27, 2011 at 4:42 PM

“Trust us. We’ll get serious next year.”

Riiiiiight.

OhioCoastie on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Let’s support of bill that doesn’t address current or future spending.

Thanks GOP for the tough fight! You were beaten by someone that has no budget or no plan.

You had all the power GOP.

Oil Can on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

and boner surrenders.

Big surprise.

Tim_CA on July 27, 2011

I don’t think that is true. If Republicans weren’t in charge of the House the debt ceiling would have been rubber stamped – complete with more tax hikes and advancement of the Liberal agenda. Now, we’ve had this national debate, Americans are increasingly aware of the problems facing us, and we get some growth cuts and no tax hikes all the while making the Liberal Agenda looking perverse and unworkable. How is that surrender?

JonPrichard on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

*Jeannie

playblu on July 27, 2011 at 4:44 PM

f this is the best we can do, we’re in alot more trouble than I thought we were in.

The Retreat bugle has been blown.

portlandon on July 27, 2011 at 4:35 PM

The bad news is the final deal will be worse.

Steve Eggleston on July 27, 2011 at 4:44 PM

It’s the only play the GOP has. Well, either that or blocking any debt ceiling hike and we know that ain’t happening. Think big picture, folks. If the market tanks(dragging the economy into hell along with it) because Republicans are steadfast in preventing any increase, who do you think immediately gets the blame for the entire thing? And how do you think that’ll impact their chances in 2012?

Pass the Boehner bill, prevent any tax hikes(which will p-ss off libtards), force Obama to sign it, and focus on 2012. Because this is all academic if we don’t get the Senate and White House back.

Doughboy on July 27, 2011 at 4:44 PM

I`m getting the impression most here don`t want any deal, because CCB will never make it past the senate as it`s comprised now. We can always cross our fingers and hope no deal goes through and Obama moves the Doomsday date a month down the road.

ThePrez on July 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Wait a minute. The plan is to pass the Boehner bill and send it to senate… for what exactly? If Reid didn’t pass the CCB, they are going to pass this bill? This is all a stunt to put blame on the Democrats? That’s what the whole drama is being played out for?

promachus on July 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Even Rep. Mike Pence (R., Ind.), a prominent conservative with a history of voting against leadership, said he was undecided, but seemed to indicate that he could ultimately support the plan, calling it “an important first step toward fiscal discipline and reform.”…

And that’s what it is, a first step. At last, some adults in the room.

Vince on July 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Is he really going to drag so many other Republicans along with him?

FloatingRock on July 27, 2011 at 4:37 PM

It protects his job….the Nation be damned.

Worthless establishment squish.

Tim_CA on July 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Pathetic.

angryed on July 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Tea-party favorite Allen West (R., Fla.), who supports the plan, said he might be willing to bet his retirement check on it.

Yeah, because betting a check of ZERO dollars is so difficult to do.
I’m just sayin’…

bridgetown on July 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Boehner is a Lame Duck just like Obama.

FloatingRock on July 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

The Dow Jones Industrials were down 199 points (-1.59%) today but the S&P500 was down more (-2.03%) and so was the NASDAQ (-2.65%).

I don’t know whether the markets see default as the problem, or if they see Boehner’s “plan” as the problem.

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Yep, pretty standard procedure for the GOP Establishment.

Step 1: Push for a vote half-heartedly for a conservative priority (recall the repeal/defund of Obamacare and now CCB).

Step 2: After the bill fails in the Senate, drop it and push for an alternative that does nothing except continue with the status quo. Use scare tactics to push the bill through. Fight and cajole for it to get passed.

Step 3: The Morning After – Oh No! We all find out that we’ve been had. The crappy bill is even more crappier than we thought. Some congressmen show faux indiganation: “Never again! Next time we will not….”

Step 4: Lather, Rinse, Repeat…

If Boehner’s crappy plan passes as you are predicting, Allahpundit, I will be counting down to your next article on how crappy this plan was.

What Boehner has succeeded in doing is getting the base really pissed off at the House GOP. And they will pay, mark my words!

TheRightMan on July 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Sold us out again, freaking whimps! They want Obama back in office it seems, this is the best way to do it by stepping on conservatives necks again and splitting the party. What a bunch of idiots, ” we have to take what we can get..! WTF!

bluemarlin on July 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Should be the perfect springboard to launch the President Palin campaign !!!

stenwin77 on July 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Every one of my kids just stumbled into the office, crying and sobbing. When I asked why, they said “We don’t know, something just seems terribly wrong!”

Bishop on July 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

D@#^ it. The Repub house has already passed two bills. Make the Senate vote on both of them before doing anything. I am tired of the Repubs being Democrat lite or Statist as Levine puts it. House Repubs need to grow a backbone and make the upper Chamber vote so Americans know where each Senator is.

The so-called Tea Party candidates that vote for this better watch for primary contestants for 2012. They were sent for this moment and are failing the fiscal conservatives that voted them in.

bej on July 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

HondaV65 on July 27, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Like Bachmann, he must have been offered something sweet.

promachus on July 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

So instead of Democrats having to bite the bullet and accept a balanced budget in exchange for the debt increase, Republicans are once again the ones who have to bite the bullet and accept almost nothing in exchange for the same.

Good job.

amerpundit on July 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

For Pete’s sake. The GOP controls ONE FREAKING house. They’ve done a pretty good job of putting brakes on our boy king and his socialist ways.
Boehner has been a better leader throughout this than the GOP has seen in decades. He’s stood firmer than Newt did back in his day.
The Tea Party (which isn’t really a party, right?) has had amazing impact on our government already. Now don’t F it up by being greedy and stupid. The big fight is November of next year. Tear the GOP down now, and you get BHO until 2016, along with the next great depression.
I can only hope that some of the more idiotic folks on these threads are libtard trolls.

Sugar Land on July 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

And that’s what it is, a first step. At last, some adults in the room.

Vince on July 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Wasn’t the 1st step supposedly the “cuts” Boehner and Obama did in April? I’m tired of 1st steps. I want 2nd and 3rd and 4th steps that actually cut spending. This is the 100th first step which will lead to nothing.

angryed on July 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Sounds like Cavuto likes the idea of not raising the ceiling. He is going to show the related newspaper headlines, this should be good.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

The Dow might be down because the economy sucks.

rob verdi on July 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Wait a minute. The plan is to pass the Boehner bill and send it to senate… for what exactly? If Reid didn’t pass the CCB, they are going to pass this bill? This is all a stunt to put blame on the Democrats? That’s what the whole drama is being played out for?

promachus on July 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Fine by me. That’s actually a great scenario for the GOP if Reid and/or Obama kill the Boehner bill. Then they own the negative economic repercussions.

Doughboy on July 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

You had all the power GOP.

Oil Can on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

No, they didn`t. They had the House and the Dems had the Senate and White House.

ThePrez on July 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Did Boehner even put out a bill yet? I thought he was rewriting it.

promachus on July 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

My name?

Earl. Earl Grey, of the TEA Party.

BobMbx on July 27, 2011 at 4:49 PM

What do those of you criticizing this expect Boehner to do? It sounds like the best option at this point.

changer1701 on July 27, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Fine by me. That’s actually a great scenario for the GOP if Reid and/or Obama kill the Boehner bill. Then they own the negative economic repercussions.

Doughboy on July 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

They already killed the CCB, so why can’t GOP make them own with that bill? why this new charade?

promachus on July 27, 2011 at 4:49 PM

My teenage daughter then asked, “Dad, I spent all my allowance but I really really really need another pair of shoes.”

I replied that she already has 54 pairs.

The daughter then said, “You’re not being very adult about this.”

Bishop on July 27, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Ok, let’s game plan a bit here. Let’s say Boehner’s plan passes and that Reid and the Senate Dems make good on their threat to kill it in the Senate. The House, at that point, will certainly kill Reid’s bill, if for no other reason than retribution. So where does that leave us? Remember Reid’s been saying that Boehner’s plan is just as dead as CCB/BBA. Assuming he’s not bluffing, what then? The House will dig in their heels out of extreme frustration over the Senate, and the Senate won’t move either. What then? The well has been so poisoned that I think a McConnell type punt is even less likely now than before. Thoughts?

Weight of Glory on July 27, 2011 at 4:50 PM

From Politico:

House Republicans 0n Wednesday morning were calling for the firing of Republican Study Committee staffers after they were caught sending e-mails to conservative groups urging them to pressure GOP lawmakers to vote against a debt proposal from Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). Infuriated by the e-mails from Paul Teller, the executive director of the RSC, and other staffers, members started chanting “Fire him, fire him!” while Teller stood silently at a closed-door meetings of House Republicans. “It was an unbelievable moment,” said one GOP insider. “I’ve never seen anything like it.”

If this isn’t an example of RINO’s running scared and trying to preserve their power base, than nothing is. FIRE these twits and get some people in Congress that actually care about this country and it’s destruction! Primary everyone of them and get some real conservatives with a spine in there. That would be women because the men in the GOP are crybaby liberals.

flytier on July 27, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Good. Give me a break. If Boehner’s bill goes down say hello to the Reid bill and a HUGE victory for Obama. They don’t understand that? The way they were going after Boehner yesterday was unreal.

Tasha on July 27, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Boner’s first plan was a disgrace. If you can’t see that you may have to rethink what you really believe in. Just imagine – Boner could only squeeze $1 billion out of a $3.6 Trillion budget. That’s laughable and deeply insulting at the same time. Even the Marxist in the Senate beat him there. Pathetic!

Ogabe on July 27, 2011 at 4:50 PM

The GOP [has] done a pretty good job of putting brakes on our boy king and his socialist ways.

Wrong. The deficit is $ 1.6 trllion this year.

Boehner has been a better leader throughout this than the GOP has seen in decades. He’s stood firmer than Newt did back in his day.

But then he caved!

The big fight is November of next year.

Wrong. The big fight is now.

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 4:50 PM

You had all the power GOP.

Oil Can on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

No, they didn`t. They had the House and the Dems had the Senate and White House.

ThePrez on July 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Nope. They did have all the power. Absolutely no way in hell Obama would have let the debt ceiling expire. He would have given in to just about anything Boehner proposed at the last minute.

angryed on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Just pass Boehner’s plan, tell Reid his plans DOA in the House and that he can choose from among the Ryan budget, CCB/BBA or the Boehner plan. Then just end it. Toss it over to the Senate and force the upper chamber to sweat a bit along with Obama.

Weight of Glory on July 27, 2011 at 4:38 PM

This.

Connie on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

If Republicans weren’t in charge of the House the debt ceiling would have been rubber stamped – complete with more tax hikes and advancement of the Liberal agenda. Now, we’ve had this national debate, Americans are increasingly aware of the problems facing us, and we get some growth cuts and no tax hikes all the while making the Liberal Agenda looking perverse and unworkable. How is that surrender?

JonPrichard on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Yes! If doesn’t pass the Senate, then the democrats own the disaster and if it passes and Obama vetoes, then Obama owns it.

If it passes, we get to do this again in April with a better bill and close to the elections.

I know I repeat myself but WTF!

Vince on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Tear the GOP down now, and you get BHO until 2016, along with the next great depression.
I can only hope that some of the more idiotic folks on these threads are libtard trolls.

Sugar Land on July 27, 2011

This is right.

Y

ou had all the power GOP.

Oil Can on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

No, they didn`t. They had the House and the Dems had the Senate and White House.

ThePrez on July 27, 2011

We should start thinking strategically starting right now.

JonPrichard on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

What do those of you criticizing this expect Boehner to do? It sounds like the best option at this point.

changer1701 on July 27, 2011 at 4:49 PM

fight. make Obama offer his plan. pin Obama and the dems down on what they want. bigger government more taxes and more borrowing. Make the dems own it. and then vote

the dems ar emaking the gop cave without a fight at all.

unseen on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

On the brighter side, at least Boehner’s bill would reopen the debt ceiling talks in (or before) April, 2012… just in time for the campaign to fire up. No way can we let the Dems shove this down the memory hole before the election. (Dems know that, which is why they’ll never allow the bill to pass.)

petefrt on July 27, 2011 at 4:52 PM

I’m trying to find the document which says the GOP is a lock to take the White House next year, got to be hiding in this stack on the desk.

Bishop on July 27, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Not so sure about your sources Allah! I called West’s office earlier this afternoon complaining about his supporting Boehner’s plan and they said he no longer supports that plan!!!

tomshup on July 27, 2011 at 4:53 PM

What do those of you criticizing this expect Boehner to do? It sounds like the best option at this point.

changer1701 on July 27, 2011 at 4:49 PM

I`m guessing invade and conquer the Senate. That`s the only way he can get them what they want…… Unless you`re of the camp that wants no deal, then they want him to do nothing.

ThePrez on July 27, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Keep this in mind.

“Can’t happen here!…can it?”

BobMbx on July 27, 2011 at 4:53 PM

If it passes, we get to do this again in April with a better bill and close to the elections.

I know I repeat myself but WTF!

Vince on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

The house already passed a bill – your theory has been tested. The bill was called CCB – let the Senate kill it and then blame the Dims for the default.

It’s no different than what you’re advocating – except the CCB actually has some REAL cuts in it.

It seems to me – your real objection is making REAL cuts to the budget.

HondaV65 on July 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Should be the perfect springboard to launch the President Palin campaign !!!

stenwin77 on July 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Actually, this might be:

Palin to Keynote Labor Day Tea Party Rally in Iowa

steebo77 on July 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Look on the bright side. If these people had led the Crusades, Nancy Pelosi would be wearing a burqa.

SouthernGent on July 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

If doesn’t pass the Senate, then the democrats own the disaster and if it passes and Obama vetoes, then Obama owns it.

If it passes, we get to do this again in April with a better bill and close to the elections.

Vince on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

I don’t like it one bit, but that’s pretty much my bottom line too.

petefrt on July 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

We were told during obamacare the big fight would be in Nov of 2010, we won. then we were told the big fight would be over the budget. the speaker caved saying it was not the time to fight the fight will be over the debt limit, the debt limit comes and the speaker caves. Now they are saying the big fight will be over the Nov 2012 elections. How stupid do they really think we are?

unseen on July 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

If Republicans weren’t in charge of the House the debt ceiling would have been rubber stamped – complete with more tax hikes and advancement of the Liberal agenda. Now, we’ve had this national debate, Americans are increasingly aware of the problems facing us, and we get some growth cuts and no tax hikes all the while making the Liberal Agenda looking perverse and unworkable. How is that surrender?

JonPrichard on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Your Eminence, I appreciate your humor. I’m still laughing.

Vince on July 27, 2011 at 4:55 PM

We should start thinking strategically starting right now.

JonPrichard on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Oh … we are.

But we’re going to be aiming for some RINO’s in Red Shirts.

HondaV65 on July 27, 2011 at 4:55 PM

I can only hope that some of the more idiotic folks on these threads are libtard trolls.

Sugar Land on July 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

You can hope in one hand and …….

We aren’t playing games. We’re tired of the games. You enjoy your games while I ONLY HOPE that the silent majority is as steadfast as I am….election after election. Stop the madness. I’m not a libtard troll. I’m one of those hated ‘tea partiers’ and I’m one of many that mean business and it will be seen in our votes. Hopefully, GONE are the days of campaign fluff…We’re watching every single vote that goes down and we’re making notes.

bridgetown on July 27, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Is everyone supposed to get their ass in line for the current Boney plan or the last Boney plan?

Maybe everyone should hold off on the lining up of asses until they know that the next Boney plan isn’t also going to be reworked.

Bishop on July 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM

The GOP [has] done a pretty good job of putting brakes on our boy king and his socialist ways.

Wrong. The deficit is $ 1.6 trllion this year.
No, you’re wrong. The GOP only got the house back in 2010. The damage was done.

Boehner has been a better leader throughout this than the GOP has seen in decades. He’s stood firmer than Newt did back in his day.

But then he caved!
Wrong: Being a realist and taking the best possible outcome is not caving.

The big fight is November of next year.

Wrong. The big fight is now.
Wrong. You “win” this fight but make the GOP look like extremists and you get Barry Soreto for 4 more years. That’s the big fight.

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Sugar Land on July 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM

What we are seeing is the gop leadership admit they do not believe in what they campaigned on and simple said what they said to win an election.

unseen on July 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Look on the bright side. If these people had led the Crusades, Nancy Pelosi would be wearing a burqa.

SouthernGent on July 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

doh! I LOL’d and that’s probably wrong of me..

bridgetown on July 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM

angryed on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

I`m not so sure. This guy leaves me the impression that he`d want ruin to come, then he can point to the GOP House and say blame Bush-I mean, them. Or both, what the hell?! :)

ThePrez on July 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM

amerpundit on July 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

I don’t know about that. Reid seems to oppose this as much as CCB, and he even has a Presidential veto to cover for him. I’m not sure we really have anything to lose politically even if we pass Boehner’s plan. Seems as though the Senate is hell bent on saying “no” to everything coming out of the House. But again, as far as reality is concerned, we’re screwed. We’re facing trillions upon trillions of debt, and not enough in D.C. care enough to do anything about it. Just keep preparing your family, friends, and neighbors. I don’t think we’re going to make it out of this one without a serious fire to pass through.

Weight of Glory on July 27, 2011 at 4:57 PM

If Republicans weren’t in charge of Tea Party folk hadn’t been elected to the house the House the debt ceiling would have been rubber stamped – complete with more tax hikes and advancement of the Liberal agenda.

JonPrichard on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

HondaV65 on July 27, 2011 at 4:57 PM

The market is tanking in expectation of the GDP report due Friday. I suspect that report is going to go NEGATIVE and people will start talking about the possibility of another RECESSION!

And of course, while the media will try to spin this as a reason to raise government spending. The reality is that government OVERSPENDING is THE PROBLEM!

Freddy on July 27, 2011 at 4:57 PM

fight. make Obama offer his plan. pin Obama and the dems down on what they want. bigger government more taxes and more borrowing. Make the dems own it. and then vote

the dems ar emaking the gop cave without a fight at all.

unseen on July 27, 2011 at 4:51 PM

How are they caving? No new taxes are part of that plan, right? And we’ll have this debate again next summer, which is NOT what Obama wants. True, the “cuts” aren’t nearly enough, but it’s clear more then that won’t get through the Senate without new taxes. And they tried CCB. From polling, it looks like the public will blame the GOP more for a default, too…there’s only so much Boehner can do at this point.

changer1701 on July 27, 2011 at 4:57 PM

OK, how many of you whiners actually read all of AP’s post and not just the headline. Let’s see a show of hands…… yeah… I thought not.

db on July 27, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Yes! If [Boehner's plan] doesn’t pass the Senate, then the democrats own the disaster and if it passes and Obama vetoes, then Obama owns it.

The Cut, Cap and Balance hasn’t passed in the Senate, so I would think that the Democrats would own the disaster at that point. If the Senate passed it but Obama vetoed it, then Obama would own it.

You see how this works?

We already passed a point where the Senate and White House were presented with something to table or veto. The Democrats would own it when they declined–except Boehner chickened out.

Even if the Democrats got Reid’s bill passed, they would still blame Republicans for something. The donkeys will make something up if they have to.

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 4:58 PM

T]he opposition bloc led by [Jim] Jordan appears to be crumbling,

Well, of course. Everyone knows that you can’t beat a plan with no plan.

Not that that hasn’t kept Obama from trying …

PackerBronco on July 27, 2011 at 4:59 PM

LOL – the same idiots on this board who called us idiots are now advocating the same procedure to justify their goals!

Pass the Boehner plan and let Reid kill it so Reid owns the default.

Isn’t that what guys like I have been saying all along? Pass the CCB and let Reid own the default by killing it? Well he has – so why make a pass at him again with a weaker impotent bill?

HondaV65 on July 27, 2011 at 4:59 PM

I’m so sick of this crap. Just pass Boehner’s plan, tell Reid his plans DOA in the House and that he can choose from among the Ryan budget, CCB/BBA or the Boehner plan. Then just end it. Toss it over to the Senate and force the upper chamber to sweat a bit along with Obama. As far as reality goes, I suggest continuing to stockpile and finding ways to help out in your local community if and when the fit hits the shan.

Weight of Glory on July 27, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Amen… May I suggest that the entire house flee to Illinois to await the Senate vote, so there will be no conference.

kringeesmom on July 27, 2011 at 5:00 PM

You all wanna see the GOP fold? Keep cheerleading for the House bill to go down in flames, and next will come Reid’s bill — the one the LSM will remind everyone has ACTUAL budget cuts in it — and they’ll find enough votes in the House to approve it. Then it will be on to Barry, and he and Reid will have “saved the day.” But wait! The US credit rating still gets downgraded? Well, that’s because the GOP House took too long and then didn’t even have a plan. Barry and Reid did the best they could, but the House left their hands tied. Blah, blah, blah. Hello Obama second term. Hello FULL implementation of Obamacare. Hello Barry replacing two maybe three Supreme Court justices. And goodbye nation. But, gosh, we’ll have these warm memories of sticking to our guns and “burning it all down.” That’ll be a real comfort on the unemployment line, or while we’re looking at our rapidly dwindling pay checks.

Rational Thought on July 27, 2011 at 5:00 PM

It seems to me – your real objection is making REAL cuts to the budget.

HondaV65 on July 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

It’s tabled. Why the came back with this is so they can have another go in April.

I don’t care what my comments “seem like” to you. Don’t put words in my mouth… or typwritten stuff on my page or something. I want cuts.

Vince on July 27, 2011 at 5:00 PM

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