Great news: retail may be entering a 500-day recession
posted at 3:55 pm on July 27, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
A retail recession wouldn’t exactly qualify as unexpected, given today’s numbers on durable-goods orders and inventories, but Burt Flickinger says it’s just the beginning. CNBC quotes the analyst as predicting a retail recession that will last through the end of next year, thanks to high unemployment and a confidence crisis in the economy, as well as an end to extended jobless benefits:
Burt Flickinger, managing director of retail consultantcy Strategic Resource Group, said the US has just entered a 500-day retail recession, and before it’s over, the US will see weaker retail sales, more store closures andeven additional retailers joining Borders in bankruptcy.
Helping to drive the trend is a weak labor market, Flickinger said.
Job growth has remained elusive, pushing the unemployment rate to 9.2 percent. Flickinger also expects more people will be joining the ranks of the unemployed as state and local governments make further cuts to their budgets.
The latest consumer confidence report from the Conference Board showed consumer attitudes perked up from the prior month, but it also captured growing fears about jobs. Those fears are likely to curtail spending, especially when you consider the large numbers of households that are living paycheck to paycheck.
Flickinger also notes that the end of extended jobless benefits will take $37 billion out of the economy, but we’ve dealt with that argument before. That $37 billion in benefits came out of the economy in one way or another, either now or later — and later will be with interest. (In fact, since we’re borrowing to pay bills anyway, even taking that money directly from incoming revenue would still carry an interest cost.) Jobless benefits don’t create wealth; wealth just gets transferred, and there’s nothing that shows that the transfer boosts actual overall spending. There are good policy arguments for jobless benefits, but economic expansion isn’t one of them.
Rasmussen’s latest figures on consumer confidence back Flickinger’s hypothesis, at least in the short run:
Consumer confidence has fallen to a new two-year low while investor confidence continues to hover just above the lowest levels of 2011.
The Rasmussen Consumer Index, which measures the economic confidence of consumers on a daily basis, fell four points on Wednesday to 63.7. That’s down eight points from a week ago, down nine from a month ago and down ten from three months ago. Confidence is now just nine points above the post-9/11 low reached in March 2009.
Just 15% of the nation’s adults believe the U.S. economy is getting better these days, while 66% believe it’s getting worse. Those numbers reflect a far more pessimistic outlook than was found at the beginning of the year. The first update in 2011 showed that 30% believed the economy was better and 45% thought the opposite.
The Conference Board’s Consumer Index shows a slight movement in the other direction for June, but still near its seven-month low in May:
As their short-term outlook on jobs and income eased somewhat amid a mix of optimistic and bad economic news, U.S. consumers’ confidence rose slightly to 59.5 in July, according to a survey released Tuesday by a private research group.
That’s up from a revised 57.6 in June – which marked a seven-month low in the measure – but still well below the reading of 90 that signals a healthy economy on the Conference Board’s Consumer Confidence Index. It hasn’t approached that level since the recession began in December 2007. …
Earlier in the year on the index, which measures how Americans feel about business conditions, the job market and the next six months, Americans were more optimistic that the economy was on track for a recovery. But consumer confidence has fallen since reaching a three-year high in February of 72. A shift of less than five points is generally discarded by economists as insignificant.
Rasmussen’s index is a daily tracking poll, which means they are surveying somewhat more recently. Neither gives any indication that American consumers are itching to spend money, and both show consumers approaching the economy as a recession rather than a recovery. With unemployment increasing and housing sales bumping along the bottom, it’s no small wonder that Flickinger sees a long period of decline in the consumer economy ahead.
If that comes to pass, it’s hard to imagine Barack Obama building any momentum for a second term in office. A long-lasting retail recession would essentially be a vote of no confidence in Obamanomics, and the handling of the debt-ceiling crisis hasn’t exactly bolstered trust in the White House either. But it would also make it more difficult to turn the economy around regardless of who gets elected President in 2012, as investors and capital will be hard to find after than long on the American sidelines.









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It’s not Obama’s fault that Recovery Summer has lasted so long. I blame it on the global warmings.
steebo77 on July 27, 2011 at 3:56 PM
Let them eat peas.
John the Libertarian on July 27, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Obama is trying hard to make congress own half of it.
Is there a bigger fool in this world than Obama?
Schadenfreude on July 27, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Hey….here’s a great liberal idea….let’s raise taxes and increase spending.
Baxter Greene on July 27, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Hey….here’s a great liberal idea…….let’s raise taxes and increase spending.
Baxter Greene on July 27, 2011 at 3:57 PM
This is all Booooooooooosh’s fault! Obama is awesome!
/crr6
/bayam
/moonbat
NoFanofLibs on July 27, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Impossible, the Stimucrap kept the rate at 8.8% or lower; these numbers must be racist and therefore wrong.
Bishop on July 27, 2011 at 3:58 PM
And as everyone knows, an unemployment check “creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name.”
Akzed on July 27, 2011 at 3:59 PM
May I do my best Goracle impression:
The solution to Global Economic Climate Change is “Cut Cap And Balance”
VelvetElvis on July 27, 2011 at 4:00 PM
It’s odd to call something “elusive” while it is being strangled.
Akzed on July 27, 2011 at 4:00 PM
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF CORPORATE JET OWNERS WRECKING THIS ECONOMY!
NotCoach on July 27, 2011 at 4:02 PM
Stag-flation.
Obama will think that he’s the stag.
Schadenfreude on July 27, 2011 at 4:04 PM
While I haven’t been counting I thought Obama still had more than 500 days in office.
RJL on July 27, 2011 at 4:05 PM
This is the time of year you expect a bump up in retail because of back to school.
Cindy Munford on July 27, 2011 at 4:06 PM
I have begun to learn that anyone who prognosticates about the future is almost always wrong. I am ashamed that it took me this long to learn this lesson.
samuelrylander on July 27, 2011 at 4:06 PM
And I am sick and tired of people like you blaming us corporate jet owners!
Bishop on July 27, 2011 at 4:07 PM
“Green” destroys 20,000 jobs.
Schadenfreude on July 27, 2011 at 4:07 PM
My jet won’t stop for gnats.
Schadenfreude on July 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM
500 days? Isn’t something else happening around that time? Something like the replacement of our hip, urbane, uber-cool, celebrity president with a person who actually knows what the hell he/she is doing?
McConnell was right, for once. Nothing good is going to happen in our economy until Barry Obama’s incompetent, economically illiterate butt is booted from office.
AZCoyote on July 27, 2011 at 4:14 PM
Where are all the Green jobs?
portlandon on July 27, 2011 at 4:15 PM
More regulation. More taxes. That’ll fix it.
forest on July 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM
My industry (railroad) is down, and has been so for years… I’ll let you know when we start coming out of it, but it won’t be anytime soon… 1 or 2 years at least…
Khun Joe on July 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM
Damn Bush…and damn Tea Party…and damn Boehner…damn everyone except who is at fault…
right2bright on July 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM
Bet tomorrow’s GDP Q2 number is “unexpectedly” really, really low (<1%). Who's with me?
txmomof6 on July 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM
I’m not so sure about that. To the extent that businesses are not spending or investing because of an uncertain business climate, that money is just waiting for the right signals to get spent.
What may be more concerning is that inflation may make that kept-back money worth a lot less by the time businesses are ready to start hiring again.
didymus on July 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM
This should be an interesting romp down the campaign trail. From what I see, the only thing he’s got is the capture and killing of Bin Laden.
sherry on July 27, 2011 at 4:19 PM
GE is sending a bunch of jobs overseas now also.
Dog predicted it first. You read it here two years ago.
In related news, since Ed mentioned homes, banks have started demolishing foreclosed houses they can’t sell, and I sent this in, they are having trouble keeping up with the foreclosures.
dogsoldier on July 27, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Those darn corporate jets.
faraway on July 27, 2011 at 4:21 PM
OT, but did anyone see Jerry Jones press conference on the nfl network just now? He’s talking about Ford being one of their sponsors and then he throws in, “they were the only car company that did not have to take our tax money…that’s the real way to do it” and then he throws in a jab about letting the private sector do things. I’m not a Cowboys fan, but that was pretty awesome.
JohnInCA on July 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM
Let them eat peas.
John the Libertarian on July 27, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Can’t eat peas. Too much fat content! Maybe peas mixed with apples.
MaiDee on July 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM
I can see why more and more Republicans want to run…what hack is the next Republican President will be a hero, with just a minimum of effort, the economy will turn around., and they will be deemed the greatest economic President of this young Century.
right2bright on July 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Winter is coming.
AbeFroman on July 27, 2011 at 4:44 PM
Here in Los Angeles I’ve seen in the last week 3 pro Obama bumper stickers… The first two just say 2012 with the 0 being Obama’s stupid logo and his name barely discernible beneath. Black women were driving those cars. The 3rd bumper sticker said, I heart Obama, driven by a new age liberal type of 40ish woman. I hope they are the first to be enslaved!
CCRWM on July 27, 2011 at 5:08 PM
Hang some ordnance under the wings and rent them to the Phoenix office of the BATF, Might be a tax break there.
Yoop on July 27, 2011 at 5:19 PM
With so many of these corporate jet owners out there, I’m surprised one can still see the sky.
zoyclem on July 27, 2011 at 5:25 PM
That slow down doesn’t end in 500 days if 0 isn’t defeated.
Oleta on July 27, 2011 at 5:25 PM
Dems: Better RAISE TAXES and Obama the economy even more!
Chip on July 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM
You know what would turn this right around?
Repealing the minimum wage.
Count to 10 on July 27, 2011 at 5:36 PM
But if we didn’t spend all that money on shrimp treadmills, cocaine for monkeys and union payoffs, the unemployment rate would be a million billion per cent! Do you know how many “saved” jobs that is?
RadClown on July 27, 2011 at 5:53 PM
Put Perry in as president and Palin as Sec of Energy,…you’ll see a blast of consumer confidence before they even take office. I’m convinced things won’t change till Nov. 2012. Another year plus of misery.
a capella on July 27, 2011 at 6:22 PM
General electric moves 10′s of thousands of Medical mfg jobs to China. They do so to pay below american min wage.
seven on July 27, 2011 at 6:57 PM
Guess THAT TOTAL UNEMPLOYMENT of 16+% is having an effect on the economy.
Who knew?
GarandFan on July 27, 2011 at 7:16 PM
We need a president who inspires confidence, one who would nurture businesses. Someone who has held a job, met payroll, written a business plan.
Where is SHE?
TN Mom on July 27, 2011 at 9:21 PM
When are they going to finally call it a depression?
mizflame98 on July 28, 2011 at 1:28 AM
They’re already slaves. They only admit it when a republican is in the white house though, and then they blame the wrong master.
runawayyyy on July 28, 2011 at 1:51 PM