All 53 Senate Dems sign letter to Boehner: Your bill will never pass

posted at 10:23 pm on July 27, 2011 by Allahpundit

Awfully nice of them to give Boehner one more little boost on the eve of tomorrow’s vote by calling the House GOP’s bluff like this.

Default it is, then.

Dear Speaker Boehner,

With five days until our nation faces an unprecedented financial crisis, we need to work together to ensure that our nation does not default on our obligations for the first time in our history. We heard that in your caucus you said the Senate will support your bill. We are writing to tell you that we will not support it, and give you the reasons why.

A short-term extension like the one in your bill would put America at risk, along with every family and business in it. Your approach would force us once again to face the threat of default in five or six short months. Every day, another expert warns us that your short-term approach could be nearly as disastrous as a default and would lead to a downgrade in our credit rating. If our credit is downgraded, it would cost us billions of dollars more in interest payments on our existing debt and drive up our deficit. Even more worrisome, a downgrade would spike interest rates, making everything from mortgages, car loans and credit cards more expensive for families and businesses nationwide.

In addition to risking a downgrade and catastrophic default, we are concerned that in five or six months, the House will once again hold the economy captive and refuse to avoid another default unless we accept unbalanced, deep cuts to programs like Medicare and Social Security, without asking anything of the wealthiest Americans.

We now have only five days left to act. The entire world is watching Congress. We need to do the right thing to solve this problem. We must work together to avoid a default the responsible way – not in a way that will do America more harm than good.

So that’s how this story ends. With the party of endless spending and entitlements unto death lecturing fiscal conservatives on how they’re leading the country into a credit downgrade. Perfecto.

Politico reports that Mitch McConnell is huddling with Biden to forge some sort of face-saving deus-ex-machina compromise. The story’s thin on details, but since McConnell’s involved and the only big remaining stumbling block is whether the final deal is short-term or long-term, I assume they’re trying to work out a way to combine McConnell’s original proposal about giving Obama more unilateral control over raising the ceiling with Boehner’s bill. E.g., instead of making next year’s debt-ceiling increase contingent upon Congress enacting the new commission’s debt-reduction recommendations, it might grant Obama the power to increase it himself in return for deeper, front-loaded cuts. But that’s just me speculating. We’ll know more tomorrow.

As a late evening dessert, here’s Chris Christie dumping on Obama for not producing his own plan. According to Rich Lowry, Boehner’s getting closer to 218 — but he’s not there yet.

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If the Dem’s, in the Senate or otherwise, think that this isn’t going to blow back on them as well as the GOP, I’m pretty sure they’re in for a rude awakening.

They are the ones who haven’t passed a budget in THREE YEARS. A lot of people are paying attention to this Kabuki, and most are either disappointed, mad as hell, or bleeding out of their eyeballs.

All of these fools need to be sent to bed without any supper; either that or vote them out in ’12.

hillbillyjim on July 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM

Stabenow MI is up in 2012, n’est pas?

DrStock on July 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM

“Your bill will never pass!”

Thanks Nevada…

Seven Percent Solution on July 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Yawn. They’re not going to vote no on the Boehner plan with only a couple days to go before the deadline. The MSM would need the reach and power of the Soviet censors to spin that.

HitNRun on July 27, 2011 at 11:42 PM

This Bill is Lost

KZnextzone on July 27, 2011 at 11:43 PM

I hasten to add that the country club wing of the GOP will probably screw it up by tossing around the possibility of another, even more worthless deal in the House at the 11th hour, thereby completely undermining Boehner’s position when facing down the Senate.

HitNRun on July 27, 2011 at 11:43 PM

Stabenow MI is up in 2012, n’est pas?

DrStock on July 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM

Correct, she’s up in 2012. I also forgot Sen. Herb Kohl’s open seat in Wisconsin.

Both of those could trend red considering the big changes afoot in the Rust Belt, especially since the big candidate for Kohl’s seat is Feingold, who got beat in 2010 and represents the kind of lefty union-friendly politics that the state is now moving away from.

teke184 on July 27, 2011 at 11:44 PM

Fine Harry, let’s play.

Let’s take CCB and slap an additional 10% across the board immediate cut across Government with the STATED EXCEPTION of Medicare, SS and Defense.

Pass it and send it up to Harry to table. When he tables it, do it again with 11%. Let him table it again, send it with 12% and so on.

The GOP can simultaneously purchase 10 million worth of billboard space across America stating that “We put up our plan Barry and Harry. Where’s yours?”

Or simply default, I’m fine with that too. In fact it’s my personal first choice.

Jason Coleman on July 27, 2011 at 11:44 PM

Thanks Nevada…

Seven Percent Solution on July 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Yeah, we owe them our undying gratitude for the gift that keeps on giving fxxxing up the works in the worst possible fashion.

“Dingy Harry” is too nice a term for this lout. Then again, so is “lout.”

hillbillyjim on July 27, 2011 at 11:45 PM

Thanks Nevada…

Seven Percent Solution on July 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Thank the SEIU who had the contract to “repair” all the voting machines.

John the Libertarian on July 27, 2011 at 11:50 PM

Bring it!

Vince on July 27, 2011 at 11:54 PM

Thanks Nevada…

Seven Percent Solution on July 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM

The very best thanks you, or anyone, can give is to spend whatever discretionary money you have…SOMEWHERE ELSE!

belad on July 27, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Jason Coleman on July 27, 2011 at 11:44 PM

The sooner we default, the sooner we get on the road to true recovery!

belad on July 28, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Re-send CCB…if he’s going to vote something down….it might as well be the right bill.

Boner…you are an absolutely worthless establishment hack…it’s time to go. Keep your fancy office, and all your house perks….just please step down, and let a fiscal conservative take your place.

Think of all the golf-time you’ll have! I bet you and little bammie could have “golf-summits” once a week (on us)!

More time to work on that tan too (what’s an elitest congressman without a nice even fake tan?).

Just please…go away.

Tim_CA on July 28, 2011 at 12:15 AM

Thanks Nevada…

Seven Percent Solution on July 27, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Love,

Sharron “You look Asian to me!” Angle.

KingGold on July 28, 2011 at 12:16 AM

And I went down to the demonstration
To get my fair shares of abuse
Singing, “We’re gonna vent our frustration
And if we don’t, we don’t blow a 50-amp fuse”
Yeah…
And no, you can’t always get what you want
No, you can’t always get what you want
Well, no, you can’t always get what you want
But if you try sometimes
you just might find
You get what you need, baby…

So… when do we blow our 50 amp fuse? Or are we just going to let it fizzle away, like every single time before? Anyone else here sick of playing the refined gentleman and gentle lady, while this country gets sucked into a socialist black hole? Either cross your fingers and spit, hope everything turns out for the best, or start acting. 53 senators are willing to sell us down the river… in order to have themselves voted back into office. That should make anyone furious.

creekspecter on July 28, 2011 at 12:31 AM

If you’re the house GOP, you immediately give this letter to every local newspaper and BEG to print it on the front page. Then lets see who the party of “no” is.

Zaggs on July 28, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Love,

Sharron “You look Asian to me!” Angle.

KingGold on July 28, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Even if she won, we still would be in the minority in the Senate. Instead of Dingy Harry, we would have Chucky Schumer as majority leader!

milemarker2020 on July 28, 2011 at 12:37 AM

Interesting, I don’t see any such letter in support of Reid’s plan. Oh thats right, he really hasn’t written it yet.

Zaggs on July 28, 2011 at 12:42 AM

Wow… So Dems now pretend that they have been working all along and have the “right” to not even consider another bill? Saying before a bill even gets to the floor that they won’t vote for it because, let’s be honest, they just don’t want to vote for anything the Reps do, is no different that their counterparts fleeing to Illinois in the Wisconsin debate over Walker’s plan some months ago. In other words ” We are not going to do what we were sent here to do simply because we don’t like you…”. Just frigging un-believable.

ptcamn on July 28, 2011 at 1:03 AM

Looks like the Dems will win again, as the Republicans surrender, as usual. All the Republicans in the House have to do is resend CCB, and send it with greater cuts. Force to Dems to act or begin shutting down the country. Yes, let Obama and Dems blame the Republicans, and let the Republicans respond in kind.

The Republicans never respond in kind, and that is always their problem. They never fight for anything, and the Dems are always on the offensive. Apart from the Tea Party standing firm, the country is doomed; and now the establishment Republicans want the Tea Party to sit down and be quiet – the very people responsible for Boehner being in power, and he is afraid to drop the hammer on the Dems. Amazing!

SheetAnchor on July 28, 2011 at 1:14 AM

If Boehner’s bill can’t pass the Senate, then go ahead and let the Dems cause a default.

The GOP will sail to full control in 2012.

WisCon on July 28, 2011 at 1:19 AM

If Boehner’s bill can’t pass the Senate, then go ahead and let the Dems cause a default.

The GOP will sail to full control in 2012.

WisCon on July 28, 2011 at 1:19 AM

I wouldn’t say that just yet. After all they will start a campaign to say “See? We worked our butts off to put together a bill in the last second and the GOP didn’t vote for it and for the “Good of the country”.

However if we get to that you can bet we will be out in full force to remind ALL people of the disastrous government Democrats have run since 2006.

ptcamn on July 28, 2011 at 1:47 AM

It’s a bluff. If it were not a bluff, there would be no reason to write a letter and give it to the press. A quiet phone call to Boehner would do.

It’s all PR. Boehner should put the BBA back in the bill, the House should pass it, let the Senate remove BBA, and agree in conference. Reid can claim they “tweaked” the bill to save face, but it goes to Obama, who is a weak bluffer.

Adjoran on July 28, 2011 at 2:24 AM

Just off hand I don’t think this Congress and this POTUS are capable of generating a compromise or a budget, which is literally the next large item on the table.

{^_^}

herself on July 28, 2011 at 3:49 AM

Hmmmmm…So Mark, son of David, Pryor keeps proving he IS a socialist. Funny how I stopped getting replies from him (staff) after I referred to him a socialist after he voted FOR obamacare…He’s just not as honest as Bernie Sanders…

Gohawgs on July 28, 2011 at 4:38 AM

Debbie Downer says we’re just a bunch of dictators.

clnurnberg on July 28, 2011 at 5:29 AM

The Democrats are holding America hostage, they’re itching to start shooting one every 15 minutes until their demands are met and they’re blaming it all on the evil cops who won’t just let them go with all the money they stole out of the bank and provide them a helicopter. :P

Tuari on July 28, 2011 at 6:33 AM

Let.

It.

Burn.

There is no such thing as “too big to fail”. There is only powerhungry fearmongers who care more for deceptive rhetoric than for real governance, or for holding to their Oath.

Freelancer on July 28, 2011 at 7:08 AM

Well, it is on their heads then. Boehner took the heat from his own caucus to get this to a vote..if the Democrats can not pass it then I guess America will know who to blame.

My guess is there will be another deal or something to help a handful of Democrats make this vote. We shall see.

Terrye on July 28, 2011 at 7:10 AM

Politico reports that Mitch McConnell is huddling with Biden to forge some sort of face-saving deus-ex-machina compromise.

Good grief, as if we haven’t undermined ourselves enough already. We need to establish our position stop negotiating against ourselves. Each new proposal we make undermines the ones it follows.

In my world, Boehner is on probation, but Mitch is a congenital squish. Almost always, his idea of a compromise is my idea of a surrender.

petefrt on July 28, 2011 at 7:13 AM

This means that $917 billion of unenforcable “cuts” over 10 years is too much for the Marxist trash that makes up today’s Democrat Party?

MNHawk on July 28, 2011 at 7:17 AM

There are over 200 congressmen and 100 senators (114 if you listen to Barry Soetoro) and the best we can do is have 4 or 6 supremely-unqualified boobs sit in a room and try concoct bogus “cuts?”

Huckabye-Romney on July 28, 2011 at 7:25 AM

The sooner we default, the sooner we get on the road to true recovery!

belad on July 28, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Agree.

Default
Downgrade
Clean house
Rebuild

crash72 on July 28, 2011 at 7:25 AM

All 53 Senate Dems sign letter to Boehner..

And you can bet your Dupa that Illinois’s own BIG DICK Durbin made sure his was one of the first signatures on this letter………which I sincerely hope Boehner later used as toilet paper.

pilamaye on July 28, 2011 at 7:28 AM

The Republicans never respond in kind, and that is always their problem. They never fight for anything, and the Dems are always on the offensive.

SheetAnchor on July 28, 2011 at 1:14 AM

Couldn’t agree more! Resend an amped up version of CCB/BBA to the senate. Let them table it. Keep resending stronger cuts with CCB/BBA to them and let them keep tabling them. Stop with the false platitudes and willingness to “compromise.” Demand at every opportunity that the dems show a plan. Demand that these negotiations be held in public (C-Span). We have the winning hand – common sense dictates this. When you are out of money – you cut back spending. A 10 year old lemonade stand proprietor knows this. Simply stop allowing Obama to get republicans to share the blame for the mess he & the dems created. The dems and MSM will NEVER speak well of us anyway, so STOP TRYING TO PLEASE THEM and take care of US.

Huckabye-Romney on July 28, 2011 at 7:34 AM

Democrats refusing to compromise and insisting on narrow, ideologically-driven dogma instead of doing what’s best for the country?

Boy. They sure are acting like dictators.

Party before country.

Good Lt on July 28, 2011 at 7:42 AM

The fact that we’re here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means ‘The buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit. -Senator Barack Obama, 2006

Ah, the good old days.

Huckabye-Romney on July 28, 2011 at 7:48 AM

Remember when Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling?

Good Lt on July 28, 2011 at 8:02 AM

If they perma-tabled CCB, and won’t pass Boehner’s plan, then I’d say the R’s have done their duty. This is the whole point of the House pssing Boehner’s bill. Now the R’s can say they passed what they really wanted, they compromised when it was rejected, and if the compromise is rejected, it’s not the Republicans who are playing games in the middle of a crisis. Like a previous poster said, it would take an MSM with the reach of Soviet-era Pravda to spin that.

Sekhmet on July 28, 2011 at 8:15 AM

If they perma-tabled CCB, and won’t pass Boehner’s plan, then I’d say the R’s have done their duty. This is the whole point of the House pssing Boehner’s bill. Now the R’s can say they passed what they really wanted, they compromised when it was rejected, and if the compromise is rejected, it’s not the Republicans who are playing games in the middle of a crisis. Like a previous poster said, it would take an MSM with the reach of Soviet-era Pravda to spin that.

Sekhmet on July 28, 2011 at 8:15 AM

This is spot on IMO.

gophergirl on July 28, 2011 at 8:24 AM

Wow! Forty percent less federal government and a balanced budget instantly! What a tragedy…

Hope we don’t get the blame for that…

Can’t run against the will of the American people like that…

Now I see why we’re called dictators and terrorists…

Don’t want my party to be irrelevant for decades just to get that…

Let’s agree to compromise and raise taxes a little, lose our radical tea party base and then elect Romney before doing it in a more “reasonable and balanced” way, you know with a $5 trillion over 10 year plan or something like that.

elfman on July 28, 2011 at 8:31 AM

If they perma-tabled CCB, and won’t pass Boehner’s plan, then I’d say the R’s have done their duty. This is the whole point of the House pssing Boehner’s bill. Now the R’s can say they passed what they really wanted, they compromised when it was rejected, and if the compromise is rejected, it’s not the Republicans who are playing games in the middle of a crisis. Like a previous poster said, it would take an MSM with the reach of Soviet-era Pravda to spin that.

Sekhmet on July 28, 2011 at 8:15 AM

Exactly. The liberals have shown their true colors in this whole thing and the media can’t hide it. The Democrats don’t have a plan and all they can do is shoot down the Republican plans that actually exist and get put down on paper.

This still pisses me off though. The media and our Dear Leader will still try to portray GOP plans as “unfair” or “unreasonable” or some such and the media will agree, wondering why the Republicans won’t compromise.

I’d say it’s time to use the Rush tactic – after Boehners plan don’t work on any other bills. Declare that they are waiting for the Democrats proposal.

gwelf on July 28, 2011 at 8:40 AM

Christie gives me a political stiffy every time he talks national politics. There are certainly things I don’t like about him, but I would vote for him in a heartbeat. That man is a old school leader.

Brad on July 28, 2011 at 8:44 AM

This is no surprise. I posted this would happene yesterday. If Boehner passes another bill out of the house he can roll it up and hammer the dems with it and he will probably will have some success, but the bill he has crafted is meaningless in any other sense.

The cuts are not sufficient. The hull’s been breached and he’s duct taping some plastic sheets over the tear.

dogsoldier on July 28, 2011 at 8:52 AM

It’s clear now that the GOP can’t cave. The media is going to have a hard time blaming the GOP for this. They will have passed 2 plans compared to 0 Democrat plans. The Democrats will have voted everything down.

The story so far has been that we’re headed towards a fiscal crisis (that somehow raising the debt ceiling will magically fix). But its the GOP that’s offered solutions while the Democrats have just whined and complained and demagogued. Public opinion is not going to side with the Democrats.

gwelf on July 28, 2011 at 8:52 AM

My concern here is that if the House sends this bill to the Senate, won’t the Reid and the dems just amend it, add all their BS including tax increases and the extension past 2012, and then send it back to the House? Then, ultimately, it’s the House — and the GOP — who become the “party of no” and force a default.

Rational Thought on July 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Obama and his Marxist gaggle must remember that if they destroy our country their cozy little perk filled world also will disappear. The time of reckoning is upon us . . . steel yourselves.

rplat on July 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Hardball all right, but only by the Dems -as usual. The tea party’s great victory means nothing to the Washington wimps who have decided that they will lose -and surrendered for pennies, before the first shot is fired. If they can’t take a firm stand now, after a massive election rout by the tea party -then when? I say, never -that’s a scientific law as sure as Newton’s law of gravity -the GOP wimps will fold every time -their excuses don’t protect our freedom one little bit They should resign in shame.

If Japan and Germany in WWII said we can’t win, would we have folded as quickly? Perhaps it is because that was a different generation -one that would die rather than to give up its freedom -not any more.

Leadership and courage in the defense of freedom seem to be on vacation.

Don L on July 28, 2011 at 9:04 AM

In the long run the Democrats being Democrats will only make the coming thrashing at the polls in 2012 that much worse. This is almost like the ObamaCare debate all over again. Democrats show themselves to be petty liars who talk up the coming financial Armageddon yet offer no actual solution.

gwelf on July 28, 2011 at 9:09 AM

If we didn’t have Harry EVIL Reid as the leader of the Senate, we would have Chuckie PSYCHO Schummer instead. In either case we would be in the same hole and no where to go. The demonrats have unanimously commited political suicide. Put up or shut. They do not have a freaking clue how to do anything constructive.

volsense on July 28, 2011 at 9:10 AM

If that is what Harry wants, then throw it back at him by doing a blitz on the airwaves/media/etc explaining cut, cap, and balance was passed by the House. If the Senate and or President will not pass/sign it, then they will be the ones to cause the country to default and cause the credit ratings to be lowered. Show you the real adults are.
.

A Recession is when your neighbor loses his or her job.
A Depression is when you lose your job.
A Recovery is when Obama loses his job.

ChuckTX on July 28, 2011 at 9:18 AM

The Party of No.

Y-not on July 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM

What is the difference between Harry Reid and McCain? Its a trick question because there is no difference as both are old fools that are totally irrelevant.

volsense on July 28, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Why is it that the Right gets ragged on for being non-cooperative and partisan when they won’t accept what the Dems want but it’s ok for the Senate Dems to send a letter saying they won’t support the Hse plan.

katiejane on July 28, 2011 at 9:31 AM

You have to know Reid and the democrats are fools to back themselves into a corner like this. Incompetence on this level has to be exposed sooner or later. Present your bill and show what you’ve got. This could be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious.

volsense on July 28, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Obama’s orders to the Senate Democrats, “Don’t you dare allow the “buck” anywheres near my desk.” and they’ll try really hard to not give him anything to sign that will make him look worse than he already does.

VOte Republican and only be called a racist one more time.

bflat879 on July 28, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Who does Reid think he is, Gandolf???

jeffn21 on July 28, 2011 at 9:53 AM

So the Democrats are in writing stating that they will force the government into “default” rather than give up their corruption?

So be it.

Crawford on July 28, 2011 at 9:56 AM

So the Democrats are in writing stating that they will force the government into “default” rather than give up their corruption?

So be it.

Crawford on July 28, 2011 at 9:56 AM

I say bring it on.

Jaibones on July 28, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Wow who doesn’t want to get elected to the U.S. Senate in 2012? The Democrats really hate being the majority in the U.S. Senate. Harry Reid: this is the only way, I can make sure I am replaced as Senate majority leader. I have to pretend that the only Americans that count are the ones who vote Democrat. Unfortunately for Harry those numbers are dwindling daily. Way to finish off the Democrat Party Harry. Finish driving the Democrats off that cliff you missed some in 2010.

Remember when Harry Reid is slurring the Tea Party he’s sluring American citizens voting American citizens. Harry doesn’t believe that those people deserve representation in a representative government. When he says American People he means only progressive ideologues. The rest of us – the majority apparently aren’t Americans to Harry Reid. We just incidentally have American citizen ship and vote.

Why the Republicans aren’t hitting the Democrats with demonizing the American people is beyond me….Harry gives them ammo daily – attacking the American Electorate.

Dr Evil on July 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Dr Evil on July 28, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Like all Liberals, they need to leech off the accomplishments of others. Reid does not want to be in charge of a sinking ship. His election doesn’t come up again until 2016. So all he must do is let the ship sink and the Republicans can take over. Then we will bad mouth Republicans and win again in 2016. Liberalsism only (somewhat) works when conservatism is runnig to kepp them afloat.

jeffn21 on July 28, 2011 at 10:35 AM

Thanks for putting it in writing. It’ll make GREAT ads for 2012.

(p.s. Please sign your names c-l-e-a-r-l-y, thank you.)

stenwin77 on July 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM

The Dems in the Senate have no desire AT ALL to get our Country out of this financial crisis. I am of the opinion that unless they feel they’re in danger of losing power, none of this even matters.

Susanboo on July 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Serious concern is spreading and preparations are being made. I got this from my financial institution today.

A Message Regarding the Potential Government Shutdown

Dear Valued Member,

As the debate over the debt ceiling continues and rumors of a partial government shutdown circulate, we want to reassure you that XXXXX is looking out for your best interests.

As a member whose finances might be affected by the possibility of a government shutdown, we are extending you a special benefit. If you don’t receive your deposit on the regularly scheduled date of your federal payroll deposit or benefit payment, we will extend a one-time provisional credit on your account. This credit, which will be based on the last deposit we received, will allow you to have access to funds while the government budget issues are resolved.

You will not be required to submit an application or request this credit; instead, we will automatically process it, free of charge, as a convenience to you. This provisional credit will be reversed following your next payroll deposit or benefit payment.

We’re providing this service as a convenience to help members through a time that could otherwise be stressful. No matter what occurs with the debt ceiling, you can rest assured that XXXXX is focused on meeting your needs and helping you maintain good financial standing.

rplat on July 28, 2011 at 10:52 AM

YOU…SHALL….NOT….PASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sometimes when I look at politics lately, I feel like I’m living in a really crazy novel…..

adamsmith on July 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM

jeffn21 on July 28, 2011 at 10:35 AM

They will let the Republicans fix it, then when we are on the upswing, they will go back to claiming austerity is an attack on the poor?

Dr Evil on July 28, 2011 at 11:02 AM

We need to get a list of all dems up for re-election next year and let them know that they need to start planning on retirement

ConservativePartyNow on July 28, 2011 at 11:04 AM

Obama and his Marxist gaggle must remember that if they destroy our country their cozy little perk filled world also will disappear. The time of reckoning is upon us . . . steel yourselves.

rplat on July 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Please tell me you don’t actually believe this.

runawayyyy on July 28, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Didn’t someone here defend Steny Hoyer and Harry Reid a while back? How times change.

You guys have no idea how much they hate you.

IlikedAUH2O on July 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Things in DC are pretty ugly.

IlikedAUH2O on July 28, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Cross posted from the Boehner 1.1 thread:

The Dems will blame the GOP NO MATTER WHAT, and the media will sing song right along with them.

Might as well get our money’s worth and NOT PISS OFF THE BASE!!!!

fossten on July 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Make no mistake about it. If the shoe was on the other foot, the Democrats in control of Congress would be LOADING THEIR BILL with everything they ever dreamed of, including new kitchen sinks for all, and then sending their “Raise the Debt Ceiling for 3 months Bill” to the Republican President for signature. Think I’m kidding?

Why do you think they raised the debt ceiling for Ronald Reagan 18 times during his Presidency. Why do you think they raised the debt ceiling 8 times for George Bush? Because they only raised it long enough for them to think of EVEN MORE STUFF that they wanted the next time the debt ceiling needed to be raised.

But now that the situation is completely reversed? Republican Leaders are giving the Dem President everything he wants without a single piece of anything they want tacked onto it. Truly, truly pathetic.

At a very minimum, Boehner should tack onto the debt ceiling bill a repeal of Obamacare!

Mahdi on July 28, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Dems would rather destroy the country than work with Republicans. After all, party is more important than country.

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/senate-dems-to-boehner-we-d-rather-default-on-the-debt-than-pass-your-bill

jdawg on July 28, 2011 at 11:35 AM

I can’t watch Carney’s press conference anymore. What a lyin’, untrustworthy POS.

a capella on July 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM

Then the vote should be 47-53. Get it in the record.

“Dem-controlled Senate defeats budget/spending bill on party-line vote; markets crash world-wide”

The campaign ad will write itself.

BobMbx on July 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM

And after the Senate votes it down, send CCB back to them.

holygoat on July 28, 2011 at 11:40 AM

BOEHNER ???.. ARE YOU LISTENING ???

CALL THEIR BLUFF !!!

They’ll fold like a cheap suit.

franksalterego on July 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM

At a very minimum, Boehner should tack onto the debt ceiling bill a repeal of Obamacare!

Mahdi on July 28, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Would probably help shore up the Tea Party vote.

fossten on July 28, 2011 at 11:44 AM

The Republicans are letting themselves get boxed in by the Dems – Why?

Let the House send the bill to the Senate for the Dems to reject – then the DEMS will be accused of causing a default.

Hannity was right. The Republicans have ended up being the “bad guy” for being the Party to actually propose a solution.

rspock on July 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM

I just heard J.Carney say something about “The Obama/Boehner plan”. Anyone else ever heard that term?

Oldnuke on July 28, 2011 at 11:50 AM

So the Democrats are in writing stating that they will force the government into “default” rather than give up their corruption?

So be it.

Crawford on July 28, 2011 at 9:56 AM

And that is why this fight should have been on CCB. CCB is easily defensible to the public as a solution to our perennial DEBT LIMITS and the DEBT itself. Boehner’s sham proposal is NOT.

TheRightMan on July 28, 2011 at 11:57 AM

This is why we’ll always end up losing. The Donks just have more solidarity than we do. During the lame duck Congress, people right here applauded the Republican defecters who passed both progressive social bills and all the last minute democrat pushed fiscal legislation that I suppose they thought were worth losing to get their progressive social issues past.

True Conservatives are not the problem in the Republican Party.

hawkdriver on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

I believe that the liberal old media is as much a component of democratics’ success in the spin game. In fact that is what allows democratics to remain united. Until we break the old media we will never be on a level playing field.

We have to stop shooting ourselves in the foot by supporting the liberal media. Republicans, why do you appear on the liberal networks? Why do you give interviews to the liberal newspapers? These people hate you, want you to die, want you to lose every election you run in. Why do you support them?

slickwillie2001 on July 28, 2011 at 11:59 AM

According to The Hill, Boehner is holding off the vote in the House for the latest “plan” until after the markets close on Thursday.

Let’s face it. The Dems want to raise the debt-limit extension to last beyond the 2012 elections. They need their campaign slush fund. They are not interested in cutting any spending. They know that the extension of the Bush Tax Rate Cut ends after 2012. They know that O-care will drive up the debt and that much of this fiscal damage occurs after 2012, yet Big O refuses to allow this driver of debt to be on the table for cuts.

ObaMao and the Dems prefer that “compromise” means extending the debt ceiling beyond the election and that “revenue increases” mean raising taxes.

The Republicans should resubmit CCB and the BBA again with some stronger cuts if the latest Boehner offering is either tabled or fails in the Senate. The message should be trumpeted loudly and clearly that the extremely political posturing of the Dems is jeopardizing Americans and that the Dems are not serious about tackling a debt that they have imposed on the nation since they controlled the purse strings in Congress since 2007. Back up the claim with charts in the background. The Dems own this problem, and Junior in the WH has crashed the system with his abuse of the credit card.

onlineanalyst on July 28, 2011 at 12:04 PM

slickwillie2001: We have very capable conservative legislators who can convincingly get the message out over the noise of biased media. These are the conservative leaders who should be out in front of the cameras and on the Sunday talk-show circuit because they are not intimidated and they know their facts. They can descibe the issues in terms that the generally uniformed voters can understand as basic pocketbook issues.

onlineanalyst on July 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Fine Harry, let’s play.

Let’s take CCB and slap an additional 10% across the board immediate cut across Government with the STATED EXCEPTION of Medicare, SS and Defense.

Pass it and send it up to Harry to table. When he tables it, do it again with 11%. Let him table it again, send it with 12% and so on.

The GOP can simultaneously purchase 10 million worth of billboard space across America stating that “We put up our plan Barry and Harry. Where’s yours?”

Or simply default, I’m fine with that too. In fact it’s my personal first choice.

Jason Coleman on July 27, 2011 at 11:44 PM

I say we take CCB and also add in a Constitutional Amendment to repeal the 17th Amendment!

dominigan on July 28, 2011 at 12:13 PM

It seems the house has done all it can. It has passed Cut, Cap, and Balance, it is about to pass another bill to address the problem. Meanwhile the Senate on the Zero have done nothing.

Once done… the house should just say they have done all they can, and adjourn until the next fiscal year starts on Oct 3.

Dasher on July 28, 2011 at 12:15 PM

what comes after a trillion?

pecan pie on July 28, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Looks like as suspected, the democratics are trying to corrupt the ratings agencies to make Dingy’s plan look better than Boehner’s.

Report: Obama Regime Prodding Rating Agencies to Endorse Reid Debt Plan…

We can always depend on the democratics to be corrupt.

slickwillie2001 on July 28, 2011 at 12:25 PM

slickwillie2001: We have very capable conservative legislators who can convincingly get the message out over the noise of biased media. These are the conservative leaders who should be out in front of the cameras and on the Sunday talk-show circuit because they are not intimidated and they know their facts. They can descibe the issues in terms that the generally uniformed voters can understand as basic pocketbook issues.

onlineanalyst on July 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM

That’s true, we do have some people that can spar effectively. That’s doesn’t change the fact however that the effect of the old media is massively anti-conservative and anti-Republican. One successful interview can’t change that, and even that one successful interview feeds the beast and keeps it alive to kill us in another election.

We need to stop feeding this monster.

slickwillie2001 on July 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM

So which party is the Party of No, again?

ErnstBlofeld on July 28, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Simple answer:
“We will not relinquish control to the body that has spent all of our money, they may not support us… but we need to undo what they have done.
Let it be known, that the body politic who has spent our money, is the one who is blocking attempts to control spending.”

right2bright on July 28, 2011 at 12:39 PM

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