All 53 Senate Dems sign letter to Boehner: Your bill will never pass

posted at 10:23 pm on July 27, 2011 by Allahpundit

Awfully nice of them to give Boehner one more little boost on the eve of tomorrow’s vote by calling the House GOP’s bluff like this.

Default it is, then.

Dear Speaker Boehner,

With five days until our nation faces an unprecedented financial crisis, we need to work together to ensure that our nation does not default on our obligations for the first time in our history. We heard that in your caucus you said the Senate will support your bill. We are writing to tell you that we will not support it, and give you the reasons why.

A short-term extension like the one in your bill would put America at risk, along with every family and business in it. Your approach would force us once again to face the threat of default in five or six short months. Every day, another expert warns us that your short-term approach could be nearly as disastrous as a default and would lead to a downgrade in our credit rating. If our credit is downgraded, it would cost us billions of dollars more in interest payments on our existing debt and drive up our deficit. Even more worrisome, a downgrade would spike interest rates, making everything from mortgages, car loans and credit cards more expensive for families and businesses nationwide.

In addition to risking a downgrade and catastrophic default, we are concerned that in five or six months, the House will once again hold the economy captive and refuse to avoid another default unless we accept unbalanced, deep cuts to programs like Medicare and Social Security, without asking anything of the wealthiest Americans.

We now have only five days left to act. The entire world is watching Congress. We need to do the right thing to solve this problem. We must work together to avoid a default the responsible way – not in a way that will do America more harm than good.

So that’s how this story ends. With the party of endless spending and entitlements unto death lecturing fiscal conservatives on how they’re leading the country into a credit downgrade. Perfecto.

Politico reports that Mitch McConnell is huddling with Biden to forge some sort of face-saving deus-ex-machina compromise. The story’s thin on details, but since McConnell’s involved and the only big remaining stumbling block is whether the final deal is short-term or long-term, I assume they’re trying to work out a way to combine McConnell’s original proposal about giving Obama more unilateral control over raising the ceiling with Boehner’s bill. E.g., instead of making next year’s debt-ceiling increase contingent upon Congress enacting the new commission’s debt-reduction recommendations, it might grant Obama the power to increase it himself in return for deeper, front-loaded cuts. But that’s just me speculating. We’ll know more tomorrow.

As a late evening dessert, here’s Chris Christie dumping on Obama for not producing his own plan. According to Rich Lowry, Boehner’s getting closer to 218 — but he’s not there yet.

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Now who’s the obstructionists?

massrighty on July 27, 2011 at 10:25 PM

What makes Scarecrow Harry think his bill would pass the House?

jdflorida on July 27, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Gee….when will someone ask them to compromise….?
Anyone….Blitzer….Blitzer.

NeoKong on July 27, 2011 at 10:26 PM

OK; should be “who’re the obstructionists?”

Sour mash and posting – not an ideal marriage.

massrighty on July 27, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Call their bluff.

Metanis on July 27, 2011 at 10:27 PM

CCB, take it or leave it.

clement on July 27, 2011 at 10:27 PM

That’s easy, no demonrat bill no money. The dems will lose the public on this, they just think they can roll the repubs.

tim c on July 27, 2011 at 10:27 PM

I think some Dems up for reelection in 2012 just signed their death warrants (Hello, Bill Nelson!).

ex Dem from Miami on July 27, 2011 at 10:28 PM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Okay I feel better now.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Then the vote should be 47-53. Get it in the record.

“Dem-controlled Senate defeats budget/spending bill on party-line vote; markets crash world-wide”

The campaign ad will write itself.

BobMbx on July 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Unreal malevolence and treason by the Scumocrats.

They will pay in 2012.

Boehner should recess the house.

rightwingyahooo on July 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM

I love how it refers to attempts to move towards a balanced budget as “unbalanced cuts”. Nice touch

Resolute on July 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM

I love hoe the republican House is expected to write a bill for dems but the dem Senate is not expected to write anything at all.

JIMV on July 27, 2011 at 10:30 PM

That’s easy, no demonrat bill no money. The dems will lose the public on this, they just think they can roll the repubs.

tim c on July 27, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Even the LSM can’t cover for the Democrats forever. They haven’t produced a bill – this will be our what third if you count Ryan’s budget.

Eventually even the media is going to go what the hell.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Pass Boehner’s bill and let them veto it. Make them own the ensuing default lock, stock and barrel.

Caiwyn on July 27, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Shocker!!! Dems want bipartisanship so long as they’re calling all the shots, and bossing, and bullying everyone into agreement.

Really America? This is a party worth your vote? Really???

capejasmine on July 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Fine. Increase the amount of cuts that go into effect this year and vote on that.

pedestrian on July 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM

CCB, take it or leave it.

clement on July 27, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Exactly. If they want a deal that lasts until 2013 then raise the debt ceiling $2.5T, make cuts of $10T, with at least $2T being immediate and make a BBA. Suck on that Dems.

mrsmwp on July 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM

I think some Dems up for reelection in 2012 just signed their death warrants (Hello, Bill Nelson!).

ex Dem from Miami on July 27, 2011 at 10:28 PM

They really are holding a gun to the country’s head screaming “welfare state, mofos! Welfare state!”

They are banking on everyone blaming the Rs regardless.

I think they are in for a surprise.

The only thing Boehner did wrong is move toward them.

He should have stopped after cut, cap and balance passed the house.

Let the Senate and WH do whatever they wish. Let me know when the signing ceremony for CCB is, Mr President….

rightwingyahooo on July 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM

RED ROVER RED ROVER, WE DARE BOEHNER OVER!

Notorious GOP on July 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Then the vote should be 47-53. Get it in the record.

BobMbx on July 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM

No way Reid will allow that.

malclave on July 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM

It will pass the House, let the Senate table ANOTHER bill.

The Boehner bill is so toothless I can’t but think Reid is using reverse psychology here to get it to pass.

Daemonocracy on July 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Mitch McConnell is huddling with Biden

Nothing good will ever come of this!

53 Senate Dems sign letter to Boehner: Your bill will never pass

They are pretending to dare the House into passing Boehner’s bad bill. The House should fool them–don’t pass it. Just send up Cut, Cap and Balance again–this time with some personal insults added, aimed at Harry Reid.

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Thank you President Obama Senate Majority Leader Reid.

crr6 on May 1, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 27, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Shut it down! Send the CCB bill back to the Senate and tell them to EAT IT!

GarandFan on July 27, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Come on folks, isn’t there any way to push CCB to the floor. Why are our senators such wimps. They can filibuster Reid’s plan as easily as Reids crew can vote no.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Ben Nelson must really be looking forward to retirement.

Caiwyn on July 27, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Harry will get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too!

Philly on July 27, 2011 at 10:35 PM

This isn’t a letter of explanation. Its a campaign leaflet. This part is especially rich:

If our credit is downgraded, it would cost us billions of dollars more in interest payments on our existing debt and drive up our deficit.

As if these clowns have worried about this previously. They don’t care about the country. They care about November 2012.

tgharris on July 27, 2011 at 10:35 PM

The Republicans are the only ones actually doing anything responsible while Obama does nothing and Harry Reid spends his time getting 53 Democrats to agree to give Boehner the middle finger in unison.

Right, this is all he Republican’s fault.

JellyToast on July 27, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Come on folks, isn’t there any way to push CCB to the floor. Why are our senators such wimps. They can filibuster Reid’s plan as easily as Reids crew can vote no.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2011 at 10:34 PM

They have to turn 4 democrats for the motion to recommit I’m pretty sure – they need 51 to bring it up for a vote.

I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM

The Democrats sure are determined to cause defaultageddon.

I don’t recall one house of congress going to such lengths to stifle debate and prevent a vote in the other house.

Has anyone in the media called the Democrats the “party of no” or “obstructionist” yet?

forest on July 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM

If the GOP caves they are done. The Tea Party Caucus will become the new national party with a full set of congressmen and senators ready to go.

NickDeringer on July 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM

FU Reid.
From a concerned citizen in the unemployment line.

Electrongod on July 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM

This is my favorite part

In addition to risking a downgrade and catastrophic default, we are concerned that in five or six months, the House will once again hold the economy captive

Says the body that hasn’t passed a budget in a little under 900 days.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:37 PM

The Democrats apparently don’t want a bill. They want Obama to invoke the 14th Amendment, and then Congress will have no choice but to remove his illegal alien ass from office.

Okay!

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 10:38 PM

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM

But if the Republicans filibuster Reid’s plan, and the Democrats vote no on Boehner’s plan, isn’t CCB the only thing left? I usually like McConnell but I hate to see him trying to “fix” this.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2011 at 10:38 PM

I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM

You got it right.

I am sure someone will correct me if I got it wrong.

Electrongod on July 27, 2011 at 10:38 PM

They are pretending to dare the House into passing Boehner’s bad bill. The House should fool them–don’t pass it. Just send up Cut, Cap and Balance again–this time with some personal insults added, aimed at Harry Reid.

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Actually in a weird way you may be right because the didn’t vote down the CCB they tabled it, which I think means that they can bring it back up if they desire. Who knows, this may be a large kabuki dance for the sake of Obama’s base.

There are 23 Democrat senators up in the next cycle (I think). The letter they sent today to the Speaker makes them look very bad, if nothing gets done. I can see the Ads now with each name scrolling down the screen with an announcer asking to viewer to ask their Senator why they caused the SS checks to stop (as if the Democrats would actually let Obama do that, LOL).

whbates on July 27, 2011 at 10:38 PM

The Democrats apparently don’t want a bill. They want Obama to invoke the 14th Amendment, and then Congress will have no choice but to remove his illegal alien ass from office.

Okay!

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 10:38 PM

At this point – I am semi-hoping this is what happens. That way it’s all on them – we are completely absolved from everything and we can impeach the SOB.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:39 PM

Reid is just trying to create conservative support for Boehner’s bill. He’s Buggs in the “Duck season/rabbit season” routine and we are supposed to be Daffy. Something like that.

Buddahpundit on July 27, 2011 at 10:39 PM

If our credit is downgraded, it would cost us billions of dollars more in interest payments on our existing debt and drive up our deficit…..

…..making it harder to borrow, with higher interest payments and fewer debt buyers, and less future debt…um….ah…

Isn’t that what we’re fighting for?

Downgrade, baby, downgrade.

BobMbx on July 27, 2011 at 10:41 PM

But if the Republicans filibuster Reid’s plan, and the Democrats vote no on Boehner’s plan, isn’t CCB the only thing left? I usually like McConnell but I hate to see him trying to “fix” this.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2011 at 10:38 PM

I can’t imagine Reid bringing it up again after he literally danced on it’s “grave”.

I’m at a loss if they table Boehner’s bill.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Downgrade, baby, downgrade.

BobMbx on July 27, 2011 at 10:41 PM

:)

It’s called tough love.

Electrongod on July 27, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Reid is just trying to create conservative support for Boehner’s bill. He’s Buggs in the “Duck season/rabbit season” routine and we are supposed to be Daffy. Something like that.

Buddahpundit on July 27, 2011 at 10:39 PM

Switch the rolls.They’re daffy…

sandee on July 27, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Default it is, then.

….

Nah.

The House passes it, the Senate says no.

Obama summons Reid to WH, the bill passes the Senate.

MSM says Obama best pres EVER.

artist on July 27, 2011 at 10:42 PM

All 53 Senate Dems sign letter to Boehner: Your bill will never pass

Not hardball, politics, pure liberal politics.

The Democrats can see 2012 from here, imagine what liberal holocaust they’ll finish destroying America with.

If they’re allowed.

Speakup on July 27, 2011 at 10:42 PM

We need to do the right thing to solve this problem. We must work together to avoid a default the responsible way – not in a way that will do America more harm than good.

so, by the right thing he means “on our terms.”

Kiss off Reid, pass what Boehner passes and be done with it you obstructionist.

ted c on July 27, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Sorry “roles” not “rolls.”

sandee on July 27, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Some GOP’er should point out that we can’t afford to buy Senate Democrat votes with cornhusker kickbacks and Louisianna purchases anymore.

myrenovations on July 27, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Some states need to recall their Senators.

JellyToast on July 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM

They have to turn 4 democrats for the motion to recommit I’m pretty sure – they need 51 to bring it up for a vote.

I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM

Can Biden vote to break a tie on a motion to recommit?

Fezzik on July 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Nor should it pass,

Valiant on July 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM

I hope they don’t pass any of the sham bills, but if they do pass one through I don’t really care which one. None of them cut any real spending anyway. If the only thing at stake is whether the D team or R team wins, I this point I hope they both lose.

Actually, I think it might be better to let the Democrats win than Boehner because Beohner is a political turncoat and liar and I don’t want to be blamed for his incompetence. I don’t want to be associated with Boehner in any way, shape or form.

FloatingRock on July 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM

How many of the 53 Democrats are up for reelection in 2012 and who is vulnerable?

Khun Joe on July 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Idiotic of the Senate Dems. Obama can’t like it being forced to now offer a plan to settle this.

Apologetic California on July 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM

This is why we’ll always end up losing. The Donks just have more solidarity than we do. During the lame duck Congress, people right here applauded the Republican defecters who passed both progressive social bills and all the last minute democrat pushed fiscal legislation that I suppose they thought were worth losing to get their progressive social issues past.

True Conservatives are not the problem in the Republican Party.

hawkdriver on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Can Biden vote to break a tie on a motion to recommit?

Fezzik on July 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM

I would think so.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

If our credit is downgraded, it would cost us billions of dollars more in interest payments on our existing debt and drive up our deficit…..

It’s only a matter of time. Might as well let it happen now before we rack up even more debt.

pedestrian on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Party of No!

Caper29 on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

So, GOP, why even vote for Boehner’s 2nd bill and compromise your voters’ principles?

SouthernGent on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Well, then. If nothing the House Republicans propose will pass the Senate, let’s hear from the House Democrats and see their plan.

At this point there would be no point in the House Republicans even working on anything.

crosspatch on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

The GOP will betray you

True_King on July 27, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Did Harry include a link to a Rick Astley video?

rogerb on July 27, 2011 at 10:47 PM

How many of the 53 Democrats are up for reelection in 2012 and who is vulnerable?

Khun Joe on July 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Something like 23 Dems are up for re-election. That’s half the caucus. SO much Democrat FAIL.

Apologetic California on July 27, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Call their bluff.

Metanis on July 27, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Exactly. Dem senators know enough of them, especially the bunch up for reelection next year, will cave and cross over and vote for it so they’re bluffing and praying it’s not sent over. “Oh please, don’t send it over here and make us vote on this bill”.

PatMac on July 27, 2011 at 10:48 PM

How many of the 53 Democrats are up for reelection in 2012 and who is vulnerable?

Khun Joe on July 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Off the top of my head: Landrieu (LA), McCaskill (MO), Brown (OH), Tester (MT), Webb (VA)

SouthernGent on July 27, 2011 at 10:48 PM

I hope they don’t pass any of the sham bills, but if they do pass one through I don’t really care which one. None of them cut any real spending anyway. If the only thing at stake is whether the D team or R team wins, I this point I hope they both lose.

Actually, I think it might be better to let the Democrats win than Boehner because Beohner is a political turncoat and liar and I don’t want to be blamed for his incompetence. I don’t want to be associated with Boehner in any way, shape or form.

FloatingRock on July 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM

This.

AUH2O on July 27, 2011 at 10:48 PM

…refuse to avoid another default unless we accept unbalanced, deep cuts to programs like Medicare and Social Security, without asking anything of the wealthiest Americans.

I’d be remiss if I failed to mention the campaign leaflet’s typical class warfare. And I’d hate to be remiss.

These people have nothing new to say. Ever.

tgharris on July 27, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Something like 23 Dems are up for re-election. That’s half the caucus. SO much Democrat FAIL.

Apologetic California on July 27, 2011 at 10:48 PM

McCaskill and Nelson are both up aren’t they?

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:49 PM

DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THIS YET?

The Progressives/Socialists/Marxists/Ruling Classers in the Dem Party leadership WANT TO COLLAPSE THE “SYSTEM”

When OJesus said he wanted to TRANSFORM the United States he means to turn it into a third world pile of steaming crap where the FEDGOV controls every single aspect of peoples lives.

What Obama and the Progressives believe is patently EVIL.

Tell me the whole black babies are “WEEDS” per the Planned Parenthood Goddess Margaret Sanger is not EVIL? and example, after example is available.

in 1981 Reagan called the Soviet Union “The Evil Empire”…

in 2011 Progressivism is “The POLITICAL Evil Empire”.

PappyD61 on July 27, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Wow, saying NO before they even see the new plan. Who did they learn it from, their Leader- Mr Yes We Can say No to the Republicans.

texasconserv on July 27, 2011 at 10:50 PM

I think the most amazing thing is that all 53 of them knew how to write their names.

Jdripper on July 27, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Party of No!

Caper29 on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

+1. Beat me to it.

Hog Wild on July 27, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Thanks, Senate Democrats!!

Now when you try to blame the GOP for the debt ceiling inaction, they can answer the accusation by just pointing to your obstructionism and saying, “If you want to know why it happened, we’re the only ones suggesting a plan, and the Democrats are absolutely refusing to consider any proposal we make.”

didymus on July 27, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Wow, saying NO before they even see the new plan. Who did they learn it from, their Leader- Mr Yes We Can say No to the Republicans.

texasconserv on July 27, 2011 at 10:50 PM

It’s completely stupid – people are pissed. This is going to backfire.

gophergirl on July 27, 2011 at 10:52 PM

This is why we’ll always end up losing. The Donks just have more solidarity than we do. During the lame duck Congress, people right here applauded the Republican defecters who passed both progressive social bills and all the last minute democrat pushed fiscal legislation that I suppose they thought were worth losing to get their progressive social issues past.

True Conservatives are not the problem in the Republican Party.

hawkdriver on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Lots of truth here. When your only first principal is the acquisition and retention of power, and you can pal around with others who share your single-minded obsession, then it’s easy to all hang together. (Hey, Democratic vote-whores; I’m talking to you!)

massrighty on July 27, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Why is mcconnell doing anything with biden

Nooooooooooo

cmsinaz on July 27, 2011 at 10:54 PM

How many of the 53 Democrats are up for reelection in 2012 and who is vulnerable?

Khun Joe on July 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM

I think there’s 21 plus the two independents (socialists)

Of course, if you count Lugar, Hatch and Snowe, that’s 3 more Dems.

TxAnn56 on July 27, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Come on folks, isn’t there any way to push CCB to the floor. Why are our senators such wimps. They can filibuster Reid’s plan as easily as Reids crew can vote no.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Erm… Cindy… our Senate Minority Leader will prefer to huddle with Biden and plan how they can shaft us with the bill for their big Govt. agenda rather than push for a VOTE for that “icky” CCB bill.

TheRightMan on July 27, 2011 at 10:56 PM

So, GOP, why even vote for Boehner’s 2nd bill and compromise your voters’ principles?

SouthernGent on July 27, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Because the Republican establishment wants to exploit the debt ceiling battle to undermine the tea party. We are a threat to their power and privilege. They’ll vote anyway, including a bunch of tea party defectors, and the tea party defectors will marginalize themselves and we’ll have that much more work to do primary them.

The biggest casualty is Allen West. I thought he might be one of our most promising leaders and it turns out he was one of the first to run away from the battle. If nothing else this has been very instructive.

FloatingRock on July 27, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Boner should withdraw CCB and his latest junk bill and put forward the follow:
(1)No rise in debt ceiling equals balanced budget.
Then his fall back/compromise position would be:
(2)Compromise would be a 500 billion dollar spending reduction.
#2 shows the House compromising by 1 trillion dollars or 2/3 of the way.

bej on July 27, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Have the House pass this plan, and double dog dare them to go forward with a NO vote in the Senate. When the Aug.2nd deadline passes, all of us should direct calls to Senate Democrats in threatened seats — and much footage should be shot for the Nov. 2012 Senate election.

Boehner’s plan isn’t fabulous, but it is better than the McConnell deal (which places more power in the hands of the Once) or what’s apt to occur if Reid interjects any terms.

A great read on the subject by Keith Hennessy is here: Why I support the Boehner bill

Mutnodjmet on July 27, 2011 at 11:00 PM

(2)Compromise would be a 500 billion dollar spending reduction.

Should be 500 billion dollar spending reduction for the next budget.

bej on July 27, 2011 at 11:01 PM

The House GOP should write a letter back that says “Pass the BBA and we’ll talk.”

pedestrian on July 27, 2011 at 11:02 PM

This is exactly why YOU DON’T COMPROMISE WITH LIBERALS.

Get it now sqishes??

Tim_CA on July 27, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Dem seats up in 2012 include but are not limited to-

Nelson in NE
Nelson in FL
Brown in OH
Tester in MT
McCaskill in MO
Open seat in VA (Webb)
Open seat in NM (Bingaman?)
Casey in PA
Sanders in VT
Open seat in CT (Lieberman)
Open seat in North Dakota (Dorgan?)
Cantwell in WA
Open seat in Hawaii (Inouye?)
Carper in DE
Feinstein in CA

Ones in New England and the Left Coast probably aren’t in play, but a bunch of open seats and vulnerable Red state Dems will mean a target rich environment for pickups.

teke184 on July 27, 2011 at 11:04 PM

TheRightMan on July 27, 2011 at 10:56 PM

It’s maddening.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2011 at 11:06 PM

“This sucker’s going down!”
–George W. Bush

Default is coming, baby.

Which would you rather have–a 10% return on your money market fund, a 15% return on your 10-year notes, a Dow at 5,000, and gasoline at $1.00 a gallon, or the Dow at 12,500 with no return on your savings, and with $4 a gallon gas?

Default–it’s not just a big crack in the ground in California!

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 11:06 PM

The Dems are going around claiming that Boenher would extend the ceiling only six months. Well make it 14 months.Have it come around again in October 2012.The Dems want Jan 2013.Make it Oct 2012.That’s only a two month difference.

xkaydet65 on July 27, 2011 at 11:08 PM

The House can drive a stake through the heart of the welfare state immediately by not raising the debt ceiling. And you know what a stake through the heart does. That’s even better than a silver crucifix.

Sure, we’ll pay Grandma’s Medicare and Social Security. That’s our solemn pledge. We’ll pay for the elderly, and we didn’t even like Grandma. We’ll pay the creditors, too, now and then, and we’ll pay for national defense. As for the Democrats, you can get up off your asses and get a real job for a change!

Emperor Norton on July 27, 2011 at 11:15 PM

So they vote down THREE bills and produce nothing themselves? Yeah, they’d better hope the citizens are not paying attention or 2012 is going to be a Dem bloodbath.

UnderstandingisPower on July 27, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Has anyone seen/heard these questions asked of any Democrat during this kerfuffle:

1. “Explain your vote against raising the debt ceiling in 2006.”

2. “Explain why the unanimous Democrat Senate vote against raising the debt ceiling in 2006 did not constitute a crisis, as you have repeatedly declared this issue to be.”

3. “Explain why tax-and-spend leftist Obama’s florid rhetoric against raising the debt ceiling in 2006 earned him the Presidency, but conservative House members who ran on fiscal reform and now oppose borrowing more money are ‘acting like children’”.

4. “Explain why you Democrats are on television declaring that it is “extreme” to oppose raising the debt ceiling and that the only reasonable and responsible solution is for House Republicans to negotiate with Democrat Senators and abandon certain of their positions ‘because this issue is so important’, but you yourself voted to pass socialized healthcare on a straight party-line vote with the entire GOP shut out of the development of the legislation and even prevented from seeing the bill before the vote.”

For that matter, ask those same questions to every single member of the liberal press.

Jaibones on July 27, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Once more – with FEELING

Simple GOP solution … Double the terms of the CCB and send it back to the Senate. Every time it fails double it again.

The “no planners” will only wish for the original back. Don’t let that happen. The backup baseline room for negotiations is 25% of the last one sent.

Katfish on July 27, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Looks like Soros’ currency plans are coming along quite nicely.

rogerb on July 27, 2011 at 11:24 PM

We need to do the right thing to solve this problem. We must work together to avoid a default the responsible way – not in a way that will do America more harm than good.

…we didn’t get to this point because we “didn’t tax the rich enough”…we got to this point mainly because we are spending to much money…
….now which party is it that is offering up bogus spending cuts and wanting to raise taxes…..come on Harry…give you two guesses.

Baxter Greene on July 27, 2011 at 11:30 PM

PS- And thank goodness we fixed the Constitution and passed the 17th Amendment. Can you believe senators used to be chosen by each states’ legislatures? I mean, jeez, what’s the point of that?
 
Stupid founding fathers and their outdated ideas…

rogerb on July 27, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Better buy food…

… while you can still afford it!

Seven Percent Solution on July 27, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Good Lord, will someone please retire this crusty old poop?

John the Libertarian on July 27, 2011 at 11:33 PM

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