Reid: I have an exciting new compromise debt deal for you radical right-wing extremists

posted at 6:00 pm on July 25, 2011 by Allahpundit

The Corner has a rundown of Boehner’s two-step short-term proposal — lots o’ buck-passing to a commission plus some procedural chicanery a la Mitch McConnell’s proposal plus a vote on a balanced-budget amendment down the line — but I think it’s a nonstarter. The Cut, Cup, and Balance coalition has already rejected it, which, if all members abide by that, means Boehner’s bill would start without 39 GOP votes in the House and 12 Republican votes in the Senate. Maybe the CCB crowd is playing good cop/bad cop with Boehner, trying to frighten the White House and Reid into agreeing to more concessions as the deadline looms, but eyeball their membership roster. Usually they mean what they say.

As for Reid’s plan: $2.7 trillion in cuts and no tax hikes — but no entitlement reform either, and fully $1 trillion of those “cuts” are merely the savings the feds have already been counting on from winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama endorsed it about an hour ago, notwithstanding his weeks-long demand for new revenue, because it ensures that the next debt-ceiling debate won’t happen until 2013 and thus achieves his main/only goal of helping him get reelected. In fact, per Ed’s post this morning, remember that as of this weekend Boehner’s short-term plan was Reid’s plan. They were going to present it as a bipartisan compromise until The One intervened and reminded Dingy Harry what’s truly important to America, namely, another four years of Barack Obama. So Reid caved, even though Obama surely would have signed Boehner’s plan, and threw this thing together as quickly and haphazardly as he could. How haphazardly? Feast your eyes.

And that’s where we are at right now. Check back in an hour or two and we’ll probably have another 15-20 new proposals to fill you in on. Via Greg Hengler, here’s Dingy’s salute to the CCB coalition, which inexplicably makes it even harder for moderate Republicans in the House and Senate to vote for his plan. Which GOPer would want to take sides against the tea party with a guy who’s dumping on them as “extremists”? Exit question: Doesn’t Reid have the upper hand on Boehner right now? We already know that the GOP caucus is split over Boehner’s proposal whereas the Democrats might support Reid’s plan fairly uniformly, especially in the Senate. It’ll be a tough sell to progressives in the House, but the fact that it doesn’t touch entitlements and that Obama’s backing it (and sure to talk it up during his speech tonight) makes things somewhat easier. If Pelosi/Hoyer can deliver 100 Democrats in the name of averting default, Boehner might be able to deliver 120 Republicans, especially now that some righties are half-praising Reid’s bill as not so bad.

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Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:13 PM

I have an answer to your Obama IL record question.

INC on July 25, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Del, I left it another thread. I’ll repeat it here if you’re still around.

INC on July 25, 2011 at 7:18 PM

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM

I’m going to make this easy for you.

Lowering tax rates will cause economic expansion. The businesses which right now are scared to death to expand or invest, will start doing so, creating jobs and magnifying wealth.

This will also lower prices, increasing consumer confidence, increasing consumer spending, raising profits for business, so they can raise salaries and increase hiring.

All of this activity increases the tax base, which raises revenue for the government.

Better to get a slightly smaller percentage of a much bigger pie, than a slightly bigger percentage of a much smaller pie.

Yes, bayam, the size of the pie is fluid. When business owners are under the thumb of government, the pie shrinks. When they are cut loose to do what they love doing, creating wealth, the pie expands.

Increasing taxes does the exact opposite. It has always been and always will be thus. You cannot prevent it from being so.

Freelancer on July 25, 2011 at 7:20 PM

What seems lost in all this is that if significant cuts aren’t made — most say $4 trill at least, which CCB does but neither the Reid nor latest Boehner plan do — S&P and Moodys are going to downgrade our bonds, which will wipe out most of the so-called savings due to higher interest rates.

In other words, Reid 1.0 or Boehner 2.0, will net no effing savings at the end of the day. And, CBO doesn’t factor in downgrades in their estimates, period.

Hence, the only choice Boehner really has is to stand hard on CCB.

TXUS on July 25, 2011 at 7:20 PM

INC on July 25, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Yeah, still here. Funny how his wiki page makes absolutely no mention of his time as an elected Illinois politician. Did find this:

Also during his law school years, Obama spent eight days in Los Angeles taking a national training course on Alinsky methods of organizing

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:21 PM

So basically I am getting that we are sold down the river again! Why can’t the GOP finally do something right? I am beginning to believe that old saying , “snatching defeat from the jaws of victory” is actually their actual plan to get what they want. All of these long serving politicians cannot be trusted to do the right thing anymore, no matter the circumstances it seems. There is absolutely one reason to work with the Prezident on this, as Nancy said about W, “…. He must be stopped!”.

bluemarlin on July 25, 2011 at 7:21 PM

your linked story quotes absolutely no “Wall Street economists” by name

Let me know when you start subscribing to WSJ or Barrons and you can read paid links. But I don’t have time to help the financially illiterate who think that a radio talk show host is a good basis for understanding finance.

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Which “analysts on Wall Street?” you repeat this and don’t back it up.

Yes I easily forget how financially illiterate you are, when these points are covered by WSJ, Barrons, and the Economist every week.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304584404576440250900783950.html

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:12 PM

LOL, your linked story quotes absolutely no “Wall Street economists” by name.

F-

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:15 PM

I noticed the same thing.

bayam

Perhaps before you claim something you have no knowledge of, you should think a little first, you know what they say a bout redheads having a fiery temper.

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

So basically I am getting that we are sold down the river again! Why can’t the GOP finally do something right? I am beginning to believe that old saying , “snatching defeat from the jaws of victory” is actually their actual plan to get what they want. All of these long serving politicians cannot be trusted to do the right thing anymore, no matter the circumstances it seems. There is absolutely one reason to work with the Prezident on this, as Nancy said about W, “…. He must be stopped!”.

bluemarlin on July 25, 2011 at 7:21 PM

That should read “There is absolutely no reason to work with the President on this, as Nancy said about W, “…

bluemarlin on July 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Try this:

Editorial: Democrats Are Obsessed With Raising Taxes

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/579223/201107221832/Tax-Obsessed.htm

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Wiki didn’t want to admit the truth!

Just curious…did O’bama actually “accomplish” anything legislatively during his extremely short “career” as an Illinois and then national “Legislator”?

I asked this same question in a thread last week. No results then.

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 6:11 PM

The answer is No.

Here you go: While in IL Emil Jones took legislation others Dems had worked on and handed it off to Obama. This is from Dan McLaughlin of RS who did a great job of slicing and dicing BHO before the election:

Jones became the State Senate President when the Democrats took the majority in 2003, and basically created most of Obama’s legislative record by adding Obama’s name on other people’s bills. As Jones once said (apparently at Obama’s instigation), “I’m gonna make me a U.S. Senator”:

Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.

The series was called the Integrity Gap.

A couple of years ago I tried to track down any legislation Obama had initiated and finished as a US Senator. I don’t remember finding anything major (if anything at all). I didn’t count co-sponsored bills as once one guy proposes something a lot of others join in.

INC on July 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM

That quote was from chapter 5: POLITICS: Obama and the Integrity Gap: The Machine

INC on July 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Raising rates a few percentage points on upper income taxpayers won’t wreck the economy,

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM

If raising taxes only a few percentage points won’t wreck the economy, [Everyone note no figures were provided] them what about raising them 20%? Or maybe 30% would those levels damage the economy?

Try again: Which “analysts on Wall Street?” you repeat this and don’t back it up.

Can you try answering a question for once?

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

your linked story quotes absolutely no “Wall Street economists” by name

Let me know when you start subscribing to WSJ or Barrons and you can read paid links. But I don’t have time to help the financially illiterate who think that a radio talk show host is a good basis for understanding finance.

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

1. You claimed “Wall Street economists” said something, and then posted a link to try and prove your point. Your link did not prove your point, because it didn’t quote any economists.

2. Thanks for admitting you’re Carl.

Now, once again. Can you cite any example of tax increases helping an economy in recession?

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Perhaps before you claim something you have no knowledge of, you should think a little first, you know what they say a bout redheads having a fiery temper.

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

bayam is Maureen Dowd! That explains a lot.

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Reid: I have an exciting new compromise debt deal for you radical right-wing extremists

I am not even a Republican and I know this is just BS. Saving 1 trillion from the draw down of Iraq and Afghanistan wars at the height of surge level spending…sure that’s a like cutting spending that we aren’t spending in the first place. In some alternate universe two non spending measures, equals spending cuts. Monica Crowley we had 20,000 Pentagon bureaucrats in WWII. Today we have over 700,000.00 Pentagon bureaucrats. The last to military hospitals were built with private money from private donors. San Antonio and Bethesda Maryland…so why exactly do we need a bunch of civilians working for the Pentagon? Ask a returning Vet, how much help they are getting from the Pentagon bureaucrats.

Dr Evil on July 25, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Editorial: Democrats Are Obsessed With Raising Taxes

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/579223/201107221832/Tax-Obsessed.htm

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Chippy, IBD isn’t considered by anyone to be an objective source of economic analysis. That’s why I’m not sharing links from MotherJones or TheNation. Is that the best you can do?

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Now, once again. Can you cite any example of tax increases helping an economy in recession?

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Can you cite an example of borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars to subsidize tax cuts helping an economy?

Let me know when you start subscribing to WSJ or Barrons and you can read paid links. But I don’t have time to help the financially illiterate who think that a radio talk show host is a good basis for understanding economics.

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Is that the best you can do?

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Same back at you on your original claim on “analysts on Wall Street” – Which you have yet to back up.

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:34 PM

A couple of years ago I tried to track down any legislation Obama had initiated and finished as a US Senator. I don’t remember finding anything major (if anything at all). I didn’t count co-sponsored bills as once one guy proposes something a lot of others join in.

INC on July 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Well, that’s not surprising. The Idiot the Democrats ran 4 years before they ran O’bama has something like 10 pieces of passed legislation bearing his name alone in 25 years.

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:34 PM

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

1. You claimed “Wall Street economists” said something, and then posted a link to try and prove your point. Your link did not prove your point, because it didn’t quote any economists.

2. Thanks for admitting you’re Carl.

Now, once again. Can you cite any example of tax increases helping an economy in recession?

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

I read that article myself and didn’t see any backing of her claim.

Kind of sad that she has to fall back on a really lame subscription gambit – laughable but lame all the same.

BTW, I heard that call from ‘Carl’ and it was amazing that they were almost the same talking points.

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Now, once again. Can you cite any example of tax increases helping an economy in recession?

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

“No, I can’t. So I will change the subject.”

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Chippy, IBD isn’t considered by Paul Krugman to be an objective source of economic analysis.

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:29 PM

The gift that keeps on giving!

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Now, once again. Can you cite any example of tax increases helping an economy in recession?

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Let me know when you start subscribing to WSJ or Barrons and you can read paid links. But I don’t have time to help the financially illiterate who think that a radio talk show host is a good basis for understanding economics.

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Is this the same bayam that complains about ad hominem attacks?

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Is this the same bayam that complains about ad hominem attacks?

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:38 PM

But Chippy, when Del just posted a quote from Rush it’s not ad hominem.

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:40 PM

INC on July 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM

What is so amazing is that the wiki O’bama page virtually erases the years of his life between 1996 and the time he won the pResidency.

I did find one other tidbit I was unaware of, namely that O’bama worked “full time” for 4 years as a lawyer at Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.

During the four years Obama worked as a full time lawyer at the firm, he was involved in 30 cases and accrued 3,723 billable hours.

That works out to about 18 hours of work a week. What a Country!

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Paul Ryan says the Reid plan is a-no-go:

It is encouraging to see Senate Democrats acknowledge that job-destroying tax increases are a bad idea – and that they are ready to work with House Republicans to cut government spending. Yet it is critical for policymakers to maintain credibility as they work together to deal responsibly with the debt ceiling. Senator Reid’s misleading claims will not pass muster with credit markets. Such gimmickry does a disservice to the American people, who deserve responsible, honest leadership.

Weight of Glory on July 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

You still tell a better joke than Obama.

Remind me again how badly those Wall Street economists screwed up in 2008. Wasn’t TARP required to save their arses. I don’t think they are credible at all.

chemman on July 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM

But Chippy, when Del just posted a quote from Rush it’s not ad hominem.

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Can you credibly refute any of the points Rush made in that segment I quoted?

While you’re at it, please tell us why the Fed reported the end of the Pappy Bush Recession in March of 1991, but the Democrat Media didn’t get around to “reporting” that fact until 1999.

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:43 PM

What if one of the reasons that they are so desperate to make a deal is that there IS no money to pay SS, or anything else? That the $200 billion they say comes in every month is ephemeral, vapor, gone, gone, gone, in advance. We know that the Social Security ‘lockbox’ is empty, but what if it is ALL empty now? And without the ‘deal’ everyone will find out about it, and hang them all from lampposts.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Sorry, s/b no quotes.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2011 at 7:46 PM

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Try answering a question for once instead of trying to distract away from them:

, analysts on Wall Street?

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Which “analysts on Wall Street?” you repeat this same talking point almost every day and don’t back it up.

Raising rates a few percentage points on upper income taxpayers won’t wreck the economy,

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Okay sport, let’s play that game – if raising taxes only a few percentage points won’t wreck the economy, [Everyone note no figures were provided] them what about raising them 20%? Or maybe 30% would those levels damage the economy?

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:47 PM

During the four years Obama worked as a full time lawyer at the firm, he was involved in 30 cases and accrued 3,723 billable hours.

That works out to about 18 hours of work a week. What a Country!

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Heh, good one.
I wonder if he had taken up golf yet. That would explain much. The Affirmative Action hire hangs out at the golf course with the Senior Partners so that they can show that they are ‘not racist’…..

Either that, or he was caddying.

LegendHasIt on July 25, 2011 at 7:51 PM

The sound you hear is a can about to be kicked down the road.

The sound after that is the grenade in the can going off as the spending at current levels is unsustainable. The markets get jittery every time they hear that the US might continue its spendthrift ways.

This is not a middle of the road option, but stay the course over a cliff option. A nation of spendthrifts is not a good place to put your money.

ajacksonian on July 25, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:43 PM

You will note that when she gets caught posting nonsense, she quickly distracts away for it with an overly long posting that is more “argumentum ex stercore tauri” than anything else or throws up a link to a story that supposedly backs her up but doesn’t.

Notice that she also keeps on moving around she doesn’t get pinned down in her assertions.

I will wager she will start ignoring my postings soon, if not already.

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Ok so Reid went ahead and put his sham plan out and now Failbama will press for it, claiming the GOP are obstructing him…

I won’t fly, Failbama Nero. The people are watching and you’re gonna have to eat your peas.

dogsoldier on July 25, 2011 at 7:54 PM

All of this hocus pocus is falling short of the $4 trillion that we should be cutting in the next decade in order to meet the credit agencies’ requirements to keep our rating.

Meanwhile Dingy Harry is counting our disengagements from Iraq and Afghanistan as part of the “savings,” a no-no, according to the credit agencies.

Smoke and mirrors and b*llsh*t from the Dems…again.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/25/congress-warned-credit-downgrade-if-war-savings-counted-as-deficit-reduction/

onlineanalyst on July 25, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Hence, the only choice Boehner really has is to stand hard on CCB.

TXUS on July 25, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Exactly! Every point you make is valid.

onlineanalyst on July 25, 2011 at 7:57 PM

………The markets get jittery every time they hear that the US might continue its spendthrift ways…………
ajacksonian on July 25, 2011 at 7:52 PM

I don’t disagree with any of what you said….

But buy the same token, The markets ALSO get jittery every time they think that the US (govt.) may NOT continue its spendthrift ways.

Half of Wall Street has been purchased by TARP, QE type money. And the other half is smart enough to have figured out how to make short term money off of the government either way.

LegendHasIt on July 25, 2011 at 7:59 PM

bayam

Try answering a question for once instead of trying to distract away from them:

, analysts on Wall Street?

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Which “analysts on Wall Street?” you repeat this same talking point almost every day and don’t back it up.

Raising rates a few percentage points on upper income taxpayers won’t wreck the economy,

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Okay sport, let’s play that game – if raising taxes only a few percentage points won’t wreck the economy, [Everyone note no figures were provided] them what about raising them 20%? Or maybe 30% would those levels damage the economy?

What’s wrong bayam? Can’t answer those questions?

Well. I’ll be waiting….

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Hey what a coincidence, I’ve got something for Harry too! But since linking to it would almost certainly qualify me for an insta-ban on any reasonably civilized site, I’ll leave it to your imagination.

Cylor on July 25, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Hence, the only choice Boehner really has is to stand hard on CCB.

TXUS on July 25, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Exactly! Every point you make is valid.

onlineanalyst on July 25, 2011 at 7:57 PM

That is the only sensible choice, that does not mean he will choose it. The rating agencies can be bought off, just look and subprime mortgage packaging and how they rated them AAA for so long. I hope you are correct though, I really do!

bluemarlin on July 25, 2011 at 8:15 PM

That works out to about 18 hours of work a week. What a Country!

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM

I didn’t know that about the law firm–not surprising. Obama’s natural talent and intellect is not very high. He’s crafty, and that’s about it.

INC on July 25, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Remind me again how badly those Wall Street economists screwed up in 2008. Wasn’t TARP required to save their arses. I don’t think they are credible at all.

chemman on July 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM

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Damn. You should add “Thor’s Hammer” to your screen name.

ExpressoBold on July 25, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 7:54 PM

bayam, like fellow HA Deep Minds Shipley and monkei, came over from Captains’ Quarters when Ed and some of us sane folks there sailed over here to HA. So I’ve had experience with her “logic”.

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 8:21 PM

It took Paul Ryan all of 30 minutes to point out that Reids plan contains a trillion dollar flim flam in it with regard to phony savings from not fighting the wars. you can’t count as savings money that nobody requested.

exceller on July 25, 2011 at 8:27 PM

LegendHasIt on July 25, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Then they are a null factor in making decisions.

Do the right thing and you will get half of them PO’d.

Do the wrong thing and you get half of them PO’d.

So, do the right thing. Pass nothing.

ajacksonian on July 25, 2011 at 8:52 PM

I’m a bit upset that Reid and the fascists can’t come up with some new terminology to describe us Tea Party members.

Extremists is so 2009.

BTW, what was Boehner thinking with his proposal? Sheez!

madmonkphotog on July 25, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Okay sport, let’s play that game – if raising taxes only a few percentage points won’t wreck the economy, [Everyone note no figures were provided] them what about raising them 20%? Or maybe 30% would those levels damage the economy?

What’s wrong bayam? Can’t answer those questions?

Well. I’ll be waiting….

Chip on July 25, 2011 at 8:09 PM

This may go in one ear and out the other, but I have to try since your ‘question’ is so completely absurd that not even bayam deserves it.

The answer: the same reason you probably won’t drown if you wade in a kiddy pool, but probably will if you dive head-first into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 25, 2011 at 9:13 PM

This may go in one ear and out the other, but I have to try since your ‘question’ is so completely absurd that not even bayam deserves it.

The answer: the same reason you probably won’t drown if you wade in a kiddy pool, but probably will if you dive head-first into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 25, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Agreed, it’s kind of amusing to hear such stupid questions. You could also ask how reducing social security checks during a recession helps the economy. The question goes both ways and just reflects an inability to see any kind of compromise as the way out.

bayam on July 25, 2011 at 9:25 PM

The only balanced approach we need is a balanced budget. Congress and the President both need to cut up their credit cards.

wonk-a-donk on July 25, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Oh, my gosh… stop arguing with bayam. That’s a clueless, Marxist, libtard tool if there ever was one. Let bayam die a lonely and gruesome troll death. There are better things to do, like, saving the country. Of course, that means bayam and all of that ilk will be some of the first up against the wall, but hey… we all have to compromise and make a sacrifice, right?

creekspecter on July 25, 2011 at 11:59 PM

So if I don’t buy a $30k car today I can say I saved $30k this year & there for I can go to Vegas & throw as much of that “$30k” since it’s a + on my budget…

Great plan Senate…

Give me CCB or give me default…

Y314K on July 26, 2011 at 12:33 AM

So if I don’t buy a $30k car today I can say I saved $30k this year & there for I can go to Vegas & throw as much of that “$30k” since it’s a + on my budget…

Great plan Senate…

Give me CCB or give me default…

Y314K on July 26, 2011 at 12:33 AM

Today Kraut said that Dingy should count “not invading Normandy a second time” as a saving.

slickwillie2001 on July 26, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Can you cite an example of borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars to subsidize tax cuts helping an economy?…
bayam on July 25, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Can you explain how GE made $5B, that’s BILLIONS, in profit and paid nor tax?

Also, how come no one seems concerned that the CEO of GE is so chummy with dear Leader?

belad on July 26, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Can you explain how GE made $5B, that’s BILLIONS, in profit and paid nor tax?
Also, how come no one seems concerned that the CEO of GE is so chummy with dear Leader?
belad on July 26, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Speaking of which, GE is moving its X-RAY Machine business to China

LegendHasIt on July 26, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Is it asking too much for Harry to slip and fell again, the last time he didn’t fall FAR enough.

…Thanks Nevada!

try again later on July 26, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Any relevance Reid ever had was lost when he delared the Irag war was lost on the floor of the Senate while American troops were still in combat. The face of evil for the democrats, nothing more, nothing less.

volsense on July 26, 2011 at 4:57 PM

“I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.”

shorebird on July 27, 2011 at 12:19 AM

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