Obama: Hey, you know who was a fiscal conservative?

posted at 1:20 pm on July 25, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Granted, this isn’t as incoherent as Barack Obama’s running mate on FDR in 2008, but it’s close. In his town-hall meeting last week, Obama warned about cutting federal spending and used the example of the 1937 so-called “austerity” budget as his evidence. Referring to Roosevelt as a “fiscal conservative,” Obama told the audience that a reduction in federal spending now would create another recession just like the one that preceded World War II:

… FDR comes in, he tries all these things with the New Deal. But FDR, contrary to myth, was pretty fiscally conservative. And so, after the initial efforts of the New Deal and it looked like the economy was growing again, FDR then presented a very severe austerity budget. And suddenly, in 1937, the economy started going down again. And, ultimately, what really pulled America out of the Great Depression was World War II.

CNS News provides the necessary context for this historical ignorance:

However, Jim Powell, author of the 2003 book, FDR’s Folly, How Roosevelt and His New Deal Prolonged the Great Depression said spending cuts to close the deficit had little to do with economic downturn of 1938.

“It’s a misleading analysis. The budget deficit during the Great Depression was such a tiny percent of the GDP, and because it was so small, it’s a hard case to make that these cuts cause the depression of 1938,” Powell, an adjunct fellow with the libertarian Cato Institute, told CNSNews.com.

No one grew the size of government, taxation and spending in peacetime the way Roosevelt did, Powell said.

“FDR tripled taxes and spending more than doubled from 1933 to 1940,” Powell said. “That was the biggest increase in peacetime spending in American history. Before that, the biggest increases in spending came during wars.”

Further, the New Deal did not bring the economy back and prolonged recovery, Powell said, as unemployment was still at 17 percent by 1940, before war spending began to pull the country out of the depression.

Yeah, those darned fiscal conservatives and their doubling of peacetime government spending and tripling of taxes! Note the similarities between Obama and FDR in this instance, too. FDR tripled spending, and then tried to sell a reduced budget later as “austerity” in much the same way that Obama has suddenly become a deficit hawk looking for spending reductions. The Democratic Congress increased discretionary spending by a third over their four years in the majority, two of which had Obama in the White House and the other two with Obama in the Senate.

If Obama thinks FDR was a fiscal conservative, that demonstrates Obama’s own extremist redistributionism better than anything his opponents could possibly say.

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I don’t know how the The Chosen Moron graduated from high school given his rank stupidity.

David in ATL on July 25, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Elite private school in Honolulu.

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM

ROFLMAO!!!!! Same to you, on the stress relief.

capejasmine on July 25, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Thanks. It helps keep me sane…. well, sorta.

viking01 on July 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Once again, Obowma lied, the economy died….part 15.5 trillion.

Obowma: “If I could just run more guns into Mexico, this just might stimulate the economy?”

dthorny on July 25, 2011 at 2:24 PM

I guess since Roosevelt was against public sector unions that makes him a fiscal conservative.

djaymick on July 25, 2011 at 2:24 PM

The idea that FDR’s 1937 austerity budget caused the 1938 downturn is a staple of left wing analysis. It’s probably something he remembers hearing in the faculty lounge.

Fred 2 on July 25, 2011 at 2:25 PM

FDR was a fiscal conservative!

In other news Dehydrated water is wet.

The Rock on July 25, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Liberals, just a few more letters than lies.

tarpon on July 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Referring to Roosevelt as a “fiscal conservative,”…

Funny…that’s how some of our Trolls refer to themselves, too.

kingsjester on July 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM

I don’t know how the The Chosen Moron graduated from high school given his rank stupidity.
David in ATL on July 25, 2011 at 2:13 PM
Elite private school in Honolulu.
Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Oh I’m sure he’s a bright guy, but I know a lot of very intelligent people who have fallen fully for one kind of fallacy or another. I doubt he’s a genius, but I have no trouble seeing him graduate high school normally.

Count to 10 on July 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM

Obama earned advanced placement / high honors in Lunch but Phi Beta Kappa turned him down.

viking01 on July 25, 2011 at 2:39 PM

He’s crazy.

ButterflyDragon on July 25, 2011 at 2:40 PM

Well compared to Obama, FDR WAS a fiscal conservative.

Doughboy on July 25, 2011 at 1:22 PM

+++

greeneyedconservative on July 25, 2011 at 2:40 PM

I don’t know how the The Chosen Moron graduated from high school given his rank stupidity.
David in ATL on July 25, 2011 at 2:13 PM
Elite private school in Honolulu.
Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Oh I’m sure he’s a bright guy, but I know a lot of very intelligent people who have fallen fully for one kind of fallacy or another. I doubt he’s a genius, but I have no trouble seeing him graduate high school normally.

Count to 10 on July 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM

I’m not so sure. I think we could ask him what 2+2 is and get a response of “Thomas Jefferson, sucka!”

teke184 on July 25, 2011 at 2:43 PM

Harry Reid is on lying some more and blaming the extremists of the Republican party, and now Schumer. Where does the info come from that they are working together. The whole thing is a kabuki dance from all of them.

silvernana on July 25, 2011 at 2:45 PM

I wonder if the poor fools sitting behind Obowma for the photo op realize that they will forever be linked to this jackalope…

Seven Percent Solution on July 25, 2011 at 1:39 PM

A buddy and I were talking last night…..this guy will be the “Jimmy Carter” of our kid’s generation.

Wonder if he’ll build “Houses for Humanity” after his brief and damaging single-term?

Imagine bammie swinging a hammer? Or worse…using a skill-saw?……oh the “humanity”.

Tim_CA on July 25, 2011 at 2:55 PM

I don’t know how the The Chosen Moron graduated from high school given his rank stupidity.
David in ATL on July 25, 2011 at 2:13 PM
Elite private school in Honolulu.
Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Oh I’m sure he’s a bright guy, but I know a lot of very intelligent people who have fallen fully for one kind of fallacy or another. I doubt he’s a genius, but I have no trouble seeing him graduate high school normally.

Count to 10 on July 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM

Actually, it was a perfect training ground for some of his dangerous ideas.

Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, said the school allowed her brother to see the vast inequities in the nation’s education system and push for a public school curriculum that balances “practical” with “poetic and philosophical education.”

Soetoro-Ng also attended Punahou and remembered taking classes in photography and Russian literature while also learning how to write a resume.

“It was a kind of education … where classes were small enough that each individual child got nurtured, where tests weren’t as high stakes, where there were projects and papers, and the whole child was attended to,” she said.

When Obama was there, the islands’ most prestigious school offered a class in glass blowing, exchange trips to Japan and the opportunity to work on a literary magazine.

What most people don’t know is that O’bama’s school at the time engaged in the same racist practice as all of the other schools (private and public) in the 50th State: “Kill Haole Day”, where on the last day of school the white students would be beaten up simply because they were white.

Punahou’s wiki entry actually mentioned that Kill Haole Day was practiced at the school, until that part of the entry was magically vanished in the summer of 2008.

Wonder why?

Del Dolemonte on July 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM

Waiting for the inevitable “Washington crossing the Delaware” comparisons, followed by the equally inevitable, equally foolish, equally arrogant “I’m just like Jesus on the cross, only better.”

crazy_legs on July 25, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Reminds me of a joke:

Q: What’s the difference between God and 0bama?

A: God doesn’t think he’s 0bama.

UltimateBob on July 25, 2011 at 3:39 PM

It looks to me like there is a lot of youths in attendance. Clearly the perfect audience for him to get away with rewriting history. Those idiots are going to come away from that believing every word of it and would never dream of fact checking their Messiah. The progressives have no shame as is evident by Obama’s willingness to use his bully pulpit to shamelessly tell bald faced lies to the citizens of this country.

csdeven on July 25, 2011 at 3:48 PM

So, basically, FDR, who hurried us down the path to socialism is considered conservative by our president.

All you need to know…

Fallon on July 25, 2011 at 5:15 PM

And he wonders why people think he wasn’t born in America.

Ronnie on July 25, 2011 at 5:32 PM

FDR as a fiscal conservative. That makes an Obamateurism, already!

tom on July 25, 2011 at 5:37 PM

If Obama says it, we know it is a lie. Never wrong taking that course.

proconstitution on July 25, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Obama believes this, so believes him doing the same thing, is going to get the same results.

capejasmine on July 25, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Which results would those be? The Great Depression, or the War Between the States?

And why does he want those results?

tom on July 26, 2011 at 12:39 AM

Yeah, this FDR analogy is a weird one for Obama. Anyone who really knows or cares anything about history will have him laughed off the street. The rest of his dumb, adoring masses do not know or care about some FDR dude so it will have no impact. Hmmm…

yubley on July 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM

You know who will find this comparison brilliant and impressive? The media.

That is, those who are too dumb to realize they’re not all that smart.

tom on July 26, 2011 at 12:40 AM

“We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started … And an enormous debt to boot!”
–Henry Morgenthau, Treasury secretary of FDR, to Congress in 1939.

donbury on July 26, 2011 at 1:07 AM

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