Norway, with a substantial rate of gun ownership, is normally noted for non-violence

posted at 5:00 pm on July 24, 2011 by Tina Korbe

The nation of Norway was an especially unlikely setting for a shooting rampage that left at least 85 dead. The country of 4.9 million residents has one of the lowest per-capita homicide rates in Europe.

Interestingly, however, gun ownership is relatively common in Norway, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Gun ownership in Norway is common, although strict gun regulations and limitations are in place on ammunition for certain kinds of guns.

According to GunPolicy.org, an Australian university-based website, the estimated number of guns held by civilians in Norway was 1.4 million in 2007, the most recent year for which the site has such statistics for Norway.

Citing the “Small Arms Survey 2007: Guns and the City,” published by Cambridge University Press, the website give the rate of private gun ownership in Norway as 31.32 firearms per 100 people[.]

In the wake of a shooting, after the initial shock and sorrow subside, two reactions predictably emerge — calls for greater civility in discourse and calls for greater gun control. Such was the case, at least, after Jared Lee Loughner shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) in January.

And, indeed, some have already begun to criticize the rhetoric in Europe that has supposedly contributed to the sort of climate of hate that would prompt someone to release fire as at Oslo:

The attacks in Oslo on Friday have riveted new attention on right-wing extremists not just in Norway but across Europe, where opposition to Muslim immigrants, globalization, the power of the European Union and the drive toward multiculturalism has proven a potent political force and, in a few cases, a spur to violence.

The success of populist parties appealing to a sense of lost national identity has brought criticism of minorities, immigrants and in particular Muslims out of the beer halls and Internet chat rooms and into mainstream politics. While the parties themselves generally do not condone violence, some experts say a climate of hatred in the political discourse has encouraged violent individuals.

“I’m not surprised when things like the bombing in Norway happen, because you will always find people who feel more radical means are necessary,” said Joerg Forbrig, an analyst at the German Marshall Fund in Berlin who has studied far-right issues in Europe. “It literally is something that can happen in a number of places and there are broader problems behind it.”

Perhaps the calls for increased gun regulations are not far behind. Both reactions are understandable. Natural to want to make sense of senseless violence and even more natural to want to forestall it by tempering tongues and enacting obstacles to gun ownership. But we must not seek solutions where they will not be found.

On some level, perhaps the wisest course is to remain a while longer in the spell of shock and grief that evil casts, allow ourselves to feel the full extent of its horror — precisely so we will realize that no carefully crafted words, no perfectly strategized policy will ever eliminate it entirely. Perhaps in that realization we will then awaken to a new realization — that evil will only fully and finally be overcome by something greater than ourselves.

Update: This post originally misidentified Rep. Gabby Giffords as a Republican.

 


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No worries. Our DC GOP geniuses in leadership will find a way to give Barry the lead again.

hawkeye54 on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Obama fatigue has set in already. For dems that is. I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.

DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.

Yeah, but who else do they have?

hawkeye54 on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Obama’s response: “Let me be clear — Quack! Quack!”

KS Rex on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Obama fatigue has set in already. For dems that is. I was tired of him just knowing who and what he was back in early 2008. Welcome to the funk libs.

DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

What else can they “win”?

Del Dolemonte on May 9, 2013 at 6:56 PM

You missed spelled it: limp d!ck.
except when Reggie comes calling.

I want to watch the one spin out of control. Literally.

AllahsNippleHair on May 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM

In all three cases, there are more Democrats who say Republicans can do a better job than Obama

Several months late on that. Where were they last November?

GarandFan on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

I don’t really have Obama fatigue right now. My frustration is with the Senate Gangbangers.

Wigglesworth on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

How’s those student loan fees going? Higher rates and higher cost to go to school now that the Govt’s got the “business”? That worked out as well as RobertObamaCare, didn’t it?

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

They both suck.

And remember 42% didn’t even know ObamaCare is the law of the land as of last week.

1-20-17

PappyD61 on May 9, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Lame Duck Liar. The Benghazi Bullsh*tter. The Teleprompter Reader In Chief.
One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Basilsbest on May 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Does this just reveal how close the GOP and the rat-eared wonder are in policy?

davidk on May 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Joe Scarborough … check your registation

J_Crater on May 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Obama’s response: “Let me be clear — Quack! Quack!”

KS Rex on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Quack! Quack! Thump! Quack! Quack! Thump!

davidk on May 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Another worthless poll.
Bottom line is make a difference voters are the Food Stampers and other benefit receivers and they all swing Democrat…

albill on May 9, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Not bad for a leaderless party demonized by the media non stop. Now just imagine if the GOP had a spine!

Jack_Burton on May 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Several months late on that. Where were they last November?

GarandFan on May 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Circling the wagons for The One. But since he’s a lame duck, it okay to begin to consider disagreeing with Obama as Dems start to position themselves for 2016.

JimLennon on May 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Gun Protectors—1

Gun Grabbers —-0

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Gun Protectors—1

Gun Grabbers —-0

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Bravo Can!

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Now just imagine if the GOP had a spine!

Jack_Burton on May 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM

They do have a spine. Just look how hard they are pushing “immigration” reform against the will of the people.
/

Mimzey on May 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM

I’d like to hear Johnny Carsons response as to just what kind of lame duck he is, as in ” he is so lame even Sheila Jackson Lee won’t greet him when he speaks to congress.”

tim c on May 9, 2013 at 7:50 PM

GOP now tied with or ahead of Obama on economy, immigration — and gun control

A two day old tuna sandwich could be tied with or ahead of ObamThe guy has accomplished about as much

scalleywag on May 9, 2013 at 8:03 PM

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Bravo Can!

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Rovin:———-:O

canopfor on May 9, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Watch “Morning Joe” any day of the week and it’s a safe bet you’ll get a lecture on how Republicans are sabotaging themselves in 2014 by alienating the centrists in their own ranks on guns.

Tell a lie often enough, loud enough… They are just trying to write the narrative hoping that if enough people believe it, it will become the truth.

deepdiver on May 9, 2013 at 8:22 PM

and now even David Frum is criticizing the schumer/rubio thing?

immigration reform must really suck bad

Unless you posit that the newly legalized immigrants will dramatically outperform the existing immigrant population, you will reach a result very like that of the Heritage Foundation: that the taxes paid by the newly legalized will not begin to equal the costs of their Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and other benefits.

oh well, Mario…here’s a clue…when Frum is off the reservation, time for you to have an ‘awakening’..and quick

http://minx.cc/?post=339838

r keller on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Lame fluck is more like it.

A bigger charlatanic thug the land never had.

Schadenfreude on May 9, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Calling him a Lame Duck isn’t right. He’s no Duck.

trigon on May 10, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Why would anyone compare the GOP’s to Obama’s on anything at this point?

Obama’s not going to be an election opponent for anyone in the GOP ever going forward.

It’s as meaningless as it would have been to compare Obama’s number’s to Bush’s numbers in 2008. Bush wasn’t running.

To quote Hillary, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

VekTor on May 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Should have been “GOP’s numbers to Obama’s numbers

VekTor on May 10, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Maybe I’m missing something, but why exactly is there an excise tax on beer? Does anyone know the rationale, other than “the government wants more money”?

NorthernCross on May 12, 2013 at 8:19 PM

There is excise tax on all alcoholic beverages, but beer, wine, and distilled liquor are all licensed and tracked separately.

gryphon202 on May 12, 2013 at 8:34 PM