MI lawmakers protest new mileage standards

posted at 8:00 am on July 23, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Barack Obama is fulfilling another one of his stated goals from the campaign and bringing people together. In this case, he’s bringing together the bipartisan group comprising Michigan’s entire congressional delegation. It’s not exactly the love festival you might expect, though, since they are targeting the president in protest of his plans to jack up automobile mileage standards to 56 m.p.g. from 2017 to 2025.

Michigan lawmakers sent a scathing letter late Thursday to President Barack Obama directly criticizing the 56 m.p.g. fuel economy target by 2025 the White House wants.

The bipartisan group of 14 Michigan members of Congress, including both of the state’s Democratic senators, called the 56 m.p.g. target “not reasonably feasible” and claimed it would hurt the U.S. auto industry.

“Such a proposal would push beyond the limits of reasonably feasible technology development and would have significant negative ramifications for U.S. jobs and competitiveness,” states the letter, obtained by the Free Press.

The lone non-signatory of the letter was Rep. John Conyers, who apparently believes that setting a fuel standard that would cause a significant decline in sales and which has been projected in a study cited by his fellow Michiganders to cost more than 200,000 jobs is somehow a “job creator.”

Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder previously sent a letter urging the Obama administration to adopt a “sensible” approach when setting new fuel standards (i.e., not 56.2 miles per gallon). It would appear that Michigan’s legislators aren’t convinced that the White House is doing that.

But on the plus side, particularly in light of the debt ceiling debate, Obama just got a group of Democrats and Republicans to agree on something. And that’s got to be good news.

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The disconnect from reality is more glaring by the day.

rob verdi on July 23, 2011 at 8:02 AM

Last one leaving Detroit please turn off the lights. Oh, never mind, the lights will be shut off anyway….

Tim Zank on July 23, 2011 at 8:04 AM

Isn’t this too little too late?

darwin on July 23, 2011 at 8:09 AM

Lolz. Cripple the already ailing U.S. auto industry further, 0…

OmahaConservative on July 23, 2011 at 8:10 AM

Let’s hope America is learning something from the catastrophic obama presidency.

paul1149 on July 23, 2011 at 8:11 AM

Come on President Obama, don’t be a wimp, let’s make it an even 100 MPG!!!

I hope all the UAW guys understand they just got thrown under the electric powered trolley.

barnone on July 23, 2011 at 8:12 AM

Rep. John Conyers, who’s wife is currently in prison on bribery and conspiracy charges, is an embarrassment to the entire state, if not the country. We here in the northern part of Michigan can’t take responsibility for this idiot who apparently is re-elected by a group of idiots every two years.

flytier on July 23, 2011 at 8:13 AM

Let’s hope America is learning something from the catastrophic obama presidency.

paul1149 on July 23, 2011 at 8:11 AM

Peggy Joseph learned that no, Obama will not pay for her gas and mortagage as she had believed.

darwin on July 23, 2011 at 8:15 AM

Next headline:

Iowa congressmen protest Whitehouse decision to mandate that pigs fly

PackerBronco on July 23, 2011 at 8:19 AM

Oh, I get it. The only way to get there (56.2 mpg) is “green energy” from batteries supplemented with the occasional gasoline vapor and automobile bodies as light as tissue paper.
.
I love utopia! Utopia is such a fulfilling place with all its “good for me” rules and regulations and requirements and standards. I am so grateful! Hey, let’s be Indians Native Americans and live within nature without modern convenience! ‘K?

ExpressoBold on July 23, 2011 at 8:20 AM

What next ?
Is Obama to mandatethat we light up our cities by rubbing giant balloons together…?

NeoKong on July 23, 2011 at 8:27 AM

Obama: Oh and GM is exempt.

Patrick S on July 23, 2011 at 8:27 AM

I don’t even think Toyota Pious gets 56 mpg.

Outlaw gasoline cars, bankrupt coal power plants, and “necessarily skyrocket” electricity prices. I guess the only option will be to keep fixing up our old used cars forever – like they do in Cuba.

So those need to be destroyed too.

These guys won’t be satisfied until everyone is allotted a commie block next to a government train station that will take them to the welfare office and ration dispensary one per week.

forest on July 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM

The newest green-energy regulation from the Obama White House: All condoms must have a energy collection source built in…

The administration is preparing to announce thousands of new green energy jobs throughout all 57 states, in the new occupation of condom collector.

Rumors have been denied by un-named sources at the White House that a new abortion tax was being considered.

When asked about additional rumors of a new confiscatory bible tax -the spokesman neither affirmed nor denied it was being considered, but suggested to this reporter that he might consider buying any new bible quickly.

Don L on July 23, 2011 at 8:30 AM

Such a proposal would push beyond the limits of reasonably feasible technology development and would have significant negative ramifications for U.S. jobs and competitiveness,

well, yeah….that’s what he’s trying to do.

ted c on July 23, 2011 at 8:30 AM

Why haven’t they mandated a cure for cancer yet? Seriously. By 2020, in a single pill the size and cost of an aspirin?
 
If it’s as simple as writing a law with no understanding of or regard for viable technology, why not?

rogerb on July 23, 2011 at 8:32 AM

How dare they?! Obama should summon the Michgan delegation to appear before him!

DrStock on July 23, 2011 at 8:47 AM

The disconnect from reality is more glaring by the day.

rob verdi on July 23, 2011 at 8:02 AM

The narcissist is realizing time may be running out so desperation begins to kick in.

Hey, if these mileage standards were so great, why not just mandate 200mpg? Or 300mpg?
Well, you know what he said, if only he didn’t have this divided government thing, he’d be able to get a lot more done and have more free time to boot.

JellyToast on July 23, 2011 at 8:51 AM

I guess the Michigan delegation isn’t returning his phone calls either.

SlaveDog on July 23, 2011 at 8:51 AM

How dare they?! Obama should summon the Michgan delegation to appear before him!

DrStock on July 23, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Kneel before Zod!

massrighty on July 23, 2011 at 8:54 AM

While it’s awesome the MI congressional delegation agrees on this, Obama’s stupid pie-in-the-sky mileage demands will be smacked to kingdom-come in Jan 2013 when the next (Perry) administration takes the reigns….along with many many other executive branch orders that have slithered out of this WH. In the meantime, auto makers will give these demands only token consideration while good king O tries to bully them into submission. However, they snicker at him behind his back.

starman on July 23, 2011 at 8:54 AM

So if the mandate stays in place and the mileage standard can’t be met what happens?Do they stop building cars?

docflash on July 23, 2011 at 8:55 AM

Change the size of a gallon – problem fixed. (It’s only a volume).

Seriously, this guy’s a danger to mankind.

OldEnglish on July 23, 2011 at 8:56 AM

FYI, Ed will be along shortly. Had a few technical glitches to address with the new TEMS show software he installed, but he’s back in business now.

Jazz Shaw on July 23, 2011 at 9:05 AM

These guys won’t be satisfied until everyone is allotted a commie block next to a government train station that will take them to the welfare office and ration dispensary one per week.

forest on July 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM

In that you would be mistaken. A hallmark of progressivism is the insatiability of their demands. If you compromise or concede, their next act is to simply start the process anew with a newer more stringent demand.

Their demands have no basis in reality, nor do they reflect upon the consequences of their actions. With regard to automobiles, they care not that their demands for increased fuel mileage will directly cause the needless deaths of thousands in automobile accidents that would not have otherwise occurred with heavier automobiles.

With regard to pesticides, removing a product from the market with all manner of manufactured suppositions and impossible benchmarks is followed by an assault upon whatever product is developed to take its place in the market – with no regard whatsoever for the safety or efficacy of the product.

Just like Rush says, I know these people because I have been battling against onerous pesticide regulations for a long time. That they have moved on to bigger and better things – like destroying our nation entirely – does not bode well for us.

turfmann on July 23, 2011 at 9:05 AM

You know, you can get close to that kind of mileage from a 4 cyl. turbo diesel. I got high 40′s off my diesel Honda CRV. What they should do is lower the taxes on diesel fuel and provide an environment where it pays to import more fuel efficient cars from the EU or build diesel cars here. Will never happen though, it’s still a petroleum based solution.

ExPat on July 23, 2011 at 9:08 AM

56 mpg – What a laugh. I’ve got a 25 year old vehicle and a 3 year old vehicle, and will probably still be driving both in 2025.

Hiya Ciska on July 23, 2011 at 9:13 AM

We should just make cars run of fairy dust and unicorn farts. Liberals have a gargantuan supply of those.

Hog Wild on July 23, 2011 at 9:15 AM

So if the mandate stays in place and the mileage standard can’t be met what happens?Do they stop building cars?

docflash on July 23, 2011 at 8:55 AM

They find a loophole. People drive SUVs now, because the previous standards took the station wagon out of the mix. SUVs are not counted in the standards.

Hiya Ciska on July 23, 2011 at 9:15 AM

What they should do is lower the taxes on diesel fuel and provide an environment where it pays to import more fuel efficient cars from the EU or build diesel cars here. Will never happen though, it’s still a petroleum based solution.

ExPat on July 23, 2011 at 9:08 AM

Most likely, we will move to natural gas as fuel. Plentiful, and easy to convert.

Hiya Ciska on July 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM

You mean legislation isn’t what drives innovation?

Sgt Steve on July 23, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Just imagine if this guy were to actually get elected again… and still be able to keep at least the Senate. You think this first term was great.. well.. this will look like the good ol days compared to what will be coming.

During this term Obama always had another term to look forward to. There was always that additional 4 years. But during a second term he is faced with the fact that legally, it will be his last.

Nothing else will matter in his mind.. not gun control, not green initiatives, not gay marriage, not destroying more of the economy… none of those things are going to matter as much to his narcissist mind as knowing the fantasy will end. Even though it will be 4 years until his term expires, from the moment he wins, if he does, in 2012 he will become consumed with the reminder “this is your last term” every single day. That will be his focus. That will eventually become the media’s focus as well.

Obama’s priority if he is re-elected, will immediately be to ensure he will always be the President. ( I will grant this one exception… if not the President.. leader of a new more powerful UN )
So how would a lawless narcissistic Marxist thinking President do that? You could just let your mind wonder and consider the countless ways or you could just listen to some of the things he says himself.
Repealing the 22 Amendment will become his obsession. Expect trail balloons to be floated by the media within the first year of his second term. Stories about FDR and all the good he did because he was able to govern America for so long.

Obama will need to shut more people up. To restrict and regulate more the free flow of information. The mainstream media will need to protected at all costs. Fox will have to be dealt with. Conservative Blogs will be attacked using new arcane definitions of copyright laws (as we have already seen). Attacks against all of his political enemies will be breathtaking. From IRS audits, confiscation of properties and God knows what else.

It will happen. It already has.. just go back and see what Woodrow Wilson did to America. He had around 175,000 political prisoners in jail. Woodrow Wilson already has given Obama a blueprint to work from. It will only take a willing congress, a willing media and a little boldness and creativity to unleash a new modern 21st century version of the Sedition Act upon Obama’s enemies!

2012 is more important than some of us could possibly realize.

JellyToast on July 23, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Wasn’t it legislation that forced the development of the internal combustion engine and horseless carriages to alleviate the large amounts of animal waste that was piling up in the metropolitan areas of America?

I thought so

darwin-t on July 23, 2011 at 9:52 AM

A narcissistic rat is one thing. But a narcissistic rat cornered by knowing he is in his last term with nothing to lose is something else entirely.

JellyToast on July 23, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Barry actually believes what ever he says is fact. If Barry says auto makers can manufacture a car that would give 56mpg; then it’s a fact that they are capable of doing it.

It’s good to be the King.

GarandFan on July 23, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Interesting; the comment section ate the link.

Steve Eggleston on July 23, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Obama will not be the president in 2017. So he’ll surely tell them to go and pound sand, until just after the 2012 election at the least. He needs the enviro vote today. Hopefully by 2017 he’ll be on his second post presidency book tour.

multiuseless on July 23, 2011 at 10:14 AM

It’s good to be the King.

GarandFan on July 23, 2011 at 9:58 AM

King Canute thought so, too – until he got all wet.

OldEnglish on July 23, 2011 at 10:14 AM

I’m against this legislation for a different reason – if you can order the laws of physics to be bent in order to get fifty-six mpg, then why not go for a hundred? Or two hundred?

I’ve got it – I’ll run for President, and my platform will be “If I am elected then cars will get two hundred and fifty miles per gallon!”

Send your campaign donations to me, care of me, and I’ll be sure to spend it much more wisely than you could.

Squiggy in ’012!
I’ll command nature! (for your children)

Squiggy on July 23, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Also on the plus side, if allowed to stand this will put all those UAW $100k/yr bums who drink and ‘blo’ at lunch out of work. Plus GM and ‘Fiat’ will go under in the U.S. Since we’ll never see the money paid back I am A-OK with them going under. A pox on both their houses. Ford will find a way to survive (probably by moving HQ and all other ops to Texas).

JimP on July 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM

GarandFan on July 23, 2011 at 9:58 AM

King Canute thought so, too – until he got all wet.

OldEnglish on July 23, 2011 at 10:14 AM

In the version of that story I read, Canute tried turning back the sea as a demonstration to all the flattering toadies of his court that he was NOT all-powerful.

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 23, 2011 at 10:35 AM

As insane as these standards are, I really have no sympathy for MI. They voted for this imbecile. They voted for socialists for Senators.

This is like PA getting hurt by the EPA rules on coal. Oh well, too bad, so sad. Maybe next time the people in PA will think twice about voting for a guy who said he would kill the coal industry.

It was nice having SUVs while they lasted.

angryed on July 23, 2011 at 10:52 AM

Yet again, Conyers proves himself a partisan hack and a moron who somewhere along the line, lost the brains he was born with. Conyers epitomizes what is wrong with Congress and why their approval rating is approaching zero. His constituents must be a proud bunch…..

ultracon on July 23, 2011 at 11:04 AM

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 23, 2011 at 10:35 AM

Yes, I’ve read that version, too. But Canute was a Viking, so it’s hard to determine which version is correct.

OldEnglish on July 23, 2011 at 11:05 AM

Latest Executive Order from POTUS:

PI is now equal to exactly “2″.

With this Executive Order, automobile manufacturers will be able to meet my energy efficiency standards.

BobMbx on July 23, 2011 at 11:23 AM

I’m against this legislation for a different reason – if you can order the laws of physics to be bent in order to get fifty-six mpg, then why not go for a hundred? Or two hundred?

Why not just require cars to not run on fuel of any sort?

BobMbx on July 23, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Is Obama doing this through legislation or executive orders?

Cindy Munford on July 23, 2011 at 11:28 AM

So if the mandate stays in place and the mileage standard can’t be met what happens?Do they stop building cars?
 
docflash on July 23, 2011 at 8:55 AM

 
They pay fines to the feds. Revenue, in other words. Perverse incentive, in other-other words.
 
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/cafe/FINES-COLLECTED-SUMMARY.html
 
Paid by a blanket increase in all cars sold by the manufacturer, btw.
 
$650,831,288.50 collected since ’83. Adjust for inflation and it’s well over a trillion dollars collected since the mid 80s.

rogerb on July 23, 2011 at 11:41 AM

Neither reasonable or feasible

The rule is: either or, neither nor.

silverfox on July 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Whiners. Michigan voted for Obama in ’08. He’s been busy shoveling cash at two of the Big Three to bail out the UAW, of which Michigan is a wholly-owned subsidiary. Now they’re balking at a few ridiculous fuel-economy standards?

J.E. Dyer on July 23, 2011 at 1:53 PM

The disconnect from reality is more glaring by the day.

rob verdi on July 23, 2011 at 8:02 AM

O’s not disconnected from reality, he’s just changing it to one he likes better.

Again, if what he’s doing seems to defy reality, it’s because we continue to incorrectly presume that he wants the same end results that we do – that he’s operating from the same ‘best for America’ mindset.

He is not.

Once you begin to accept that he does *not* want what is best for America, then everything – *everything* he does makes sense.

Midas on July 23, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Hopefully by 2017 he’ll be on his second post presidency book tour in prison.

multiuseless on July 23, 2011 at 10:14 AM

FIFY

Midas on July 23, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Why bother with a 56 mpg car? My unicorn does much better than that, is eco-friendly, and craps gold nuggets. Obama should mandate that all the rest of you get one.

glockomatic on July 23, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Once you begin to accept that he does *not* want what is best for America, then everything – *everything* he does makes sense.

Midas on July 23, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Totally correct. That’s also why Conyers is for it. They both want America dead in the water.

rcl on July 23, 2011 at 6:56 PM

and yet the U.S. automakers will continue to donate heavily to the odumbo campaign.

reap what you sow you idiots.

Tim_CA on July 23, 2011 at 8:05 PM

But on the plus side, particularly in light of the debt ceiling debate, Obama just got a group of Democrats and Republicans to agree on something. And that’s got to be good news.

NO: It’s never good when a group of wolves agree to eat us.

landlines on July 23, 2011 at 11:37 PM

Iowa congressmen protest Whitehouse decision to mandate that pigs fly

PackerBronco on July 23, 2011 at 8:19 AM

Don’t worry, if the farmers make the correct donations, just getting the pigs to hop a little will be enough to have they pass with “flying” colors.

KW64 on July 23, 2011 at 11:44 PM

You guys worry too much. When the time comes we’ll just fix the old cars and run them forever like in Cuba. Oh wait we crushed the old cars with cash for clunkers. Well maybe we can go back to those 1 Horsepower jobbys we used to have a long time ago.

KW64 on July 23, 2011 at 11:55 PM

It’s good to remember; What is desirable is not always feasible,and everything that is feasible is not always desirable.

schmuck281 on July 24, 2011 at 5:07 AM

Stupid bluster.

SouthernGent on July 25, 2011 at 1:28 AM