Oh my: CCB bill gets 2-1 approval among adults in CNN poll

posted at 7:20 pm on July 21, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Tina touched on this in the previous post, but it’s important enough to look into the numbers.  Harry Reid might consider the Cut, Cap, and Balance Act the worst piece of legislation in the history of, well, legislation, but he doesn’t get much company among American adults.  In the latest CNN poll, two-thirds of voters favor the idea of tying a raise in the debt ceiling to spending caps and a balanced budget amendment, and this isn’t a survey of conservative-leaning likely voters, either.  However, if you expect the CNN story about its own poll to highlight this result, then you obviously haven’t been reading CNN long (via Poor Richard’s News):

Americans are hungry for a solution to the debt ceiling debate but there is a big partisan divide that isn’t going to make a solution easy to achieve, according to a new national survey.

And a CNN/ORC International Poll also indicates that while Democrats and independent voters are open to a number of different approaches, Republicans draw the line at tax increases, and many of them oppose raising the nation’s debt ceiling under any circumstances.

“That may create a problem for the Republican party, because most Americans think that GOP has been acting irresponsibly in the debt ceiling talks and they will blame congressional Republicans, not President Barack Obama, if no action is taken on the debt ceiling by August 2,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

One has to go thirteen paragraphs into the story to find CNN addressing this at all:

Republicans like the “cut, cap, and balance” approach to the debt ceiling, as do Democrats and independents. Most Americans support a balanced budget amendment, and most, but not as many, think an amendment is necessary to get federal spending under control. A balanced budget amendment passed the House earlier this week, but a vote in the Senate is expected to fail.

Er, yeah.  In other words, a consensus exists across all political lines that the CCB/BBA approach would be a good idea.  When one scrolls down to the crosstab sections of the raw data, the consensus becomes very, very clear.  The CCB/BBA approach wins majorities in every single demographic — including self-described liberals.  Sixty-three percent of Democrats back the House bill.  The least supportive age demographic is 50-64YOs at 62/37; the least supportive regional demographic is the Midwest at 61/39.  Even those who express opposition to the Tea Party supports it 53/47.

In other words, it’s a clean sweep.  Simply put, there is no political demographic at all where the CCB/BBA doesn’t get majority support.  The BBA on its own does even better.  It gets 3-1 support (74/24), and except for those Tea Party opponents (56%) and self-professed liberals (61/37), doesn’t get below 70% support in any demographic.

Guess what doesn’t get much support?  The McConnell plan.  Respondents rejected the idea of letting Obama raise the debt ceiling on his own, 34/65.  Not one single demographic supports the idea, not even Democrats (40/60) or liberals (34/65).

To quote Barack Obama, the American people are sold — on the Republican plan passed in the House to deal with the debt-ceiling and spending crises.  Too bad CNN buried the lede.

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Sixty-three percent of Democrats back the House bill

I’m confused… if the poll was targeted to adults, how did Democrats get in there?

malclave on July 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Don’t call my bluff, Eric.

carbon_footprint on July 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Heh – guess we aren’t paying enough attention huh Barry?

gophergirl on July 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Why isn’t the RNC running ads showing this poll in Montana, Nebraska, Louisiana, Florida, Missouri and every other state where a Dem is up for re-election next year?

Wait I answered my own question. It’s the RNC.

angryed on July 21, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Americans were sold a counterfeit president in 2008 and have awakened to reality! It’s long overdue.

clnurnberg on July 21, 2011 at 7:25 PM

If only our republican leaders in congress believed in the CCB as much as the American people do. This is such a no brainer for them to fight on, yet, they are scrambling to find a way to cave. I’m convinced that Washington does not have democrats and republicans. They only have the ruling class, and the ruling class certainly does not want the credit card revoked.

KickandSwimMom on July 21, 2011 at 7:26 PM

The Republicans in the Senate aren’t sold.

The power of just sticking to your guns and principles could not be more evident here.

Daemonocracy on July 21, 2011 at 7:27 PM

count it!

ted c on July 21, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Tweet this, Dumbo.

hillbillyjim on July 21, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Forget about the poll of the ignorant…. Whistletooth knows better.

PaCadle on July 21, 2011 at 7:29 PM

eat your peas Obama.

clement on July 21, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Our government is likely to go against the will of the people. Any Republican congress person who does so will pay a big price.

GaltBlvnAtty on July 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM

awesome!

tinkerthinker on July 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM

So Mconnell hatches a plan that’s not just fiscally irresponsible but it is electorally unpopular as well. Good job, Mitch. Where do they make these guys?

promachus on July 21, 2011 at 7:34 PM

time for some of those ‘job killin’ tax cuts‘ eh, champ?

eat your peas, bub.

ted c on July 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Drawing a line in the sand is an exercise in futility when you are already drawing up alternatives in the cloakroom.

I’m not getting my hopes up on Congress getting it right this time, or any other time, until we sweep out the damn place.

hillbillyjim on July 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM

That’s gonna cause some heartburn in the WH political operation tonight.

JohnGalt23 on July 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM

In other words, it’s a clean sweep. Simply put, there is no political demographic at all where the CCB/BBA doesn’t get majority support.

time to put up, or shut up, champ. Mom’s a waitin’ for her vacaycay…and you don’t wanna keep mom waitin.

ted c on July 21, 2011 at 7:39 PM

ted c on July 21, 2011 at 7:39 PM

You made me grin, damn you. I’m trying to be righteously indignant, and then you pull that?

hillbillyjim on July 21, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Look in the mirror Obama. The target has been isolated.

xrayiiis on July 21, 2011 at 7:44 PM

time for some of those ‘job killin’ tax cuts‘ eh, champ?

eat your peas, bub.

ted c on July 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Barack.
Hussein.
O-Ba-Ma.
mmmmm
mmmmm
mmmmm

GrannyDee on July 21, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Sweep out the damn place? Hell’s Bell’s Billy the Exterminator couldn’t get those vermin out!

hip shot on July 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Obama: Operating above his paygrade again.

BobMbx on July 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Obama: Operating above his paygrade again.

BobMbx on July 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM

He would be doing same were he elected dogcatcher of Cowsludge County, though. He has no experience beyond rabble-rousing and gaming elections.

hillbillyjim on July 21, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Get Dem senators on record. It either passes or the GOP uses it to destroy many of the Dem senators up in 2012.

I really want Ohio’s Sherrod Brown to go down in flames in 2012.

BuckeyeSam on July 21, 2011 at 7:54 PM

If a majority of Americans express consent with this bill, then it will be squashed. Afterall…don’t the commies know what’s best??? *SIGH*

CNN’s problem is…they like it too, but Dems didn’t come up with it. If they had, CNN would be praising it for weeks.

capejasmine on July 21, 2011 at 7:55 PM

I think Jim DeMint or his staff are reading us as we type

https://www.facebook.com/#!/senatordemint

gophergirl on July 21, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Are Americans projectile vomiting pea soup at Obama?

BuckeyeSam on July 21, 2011 at 7:55 PM

This CNN poll also said:

In the negotiations, Obama is seen as the more responsible party, with 52 percent saying he has behaved responsibly in the talks on the debt ceiling and 46 percent saying he has not. The public holds the opposite perception of Republicans in Congress, with 63 percent saying that they have not behaved in a responsible manner in these discussions.

Republicans would also bear the brunt of the blame if the debt ceiling is not raised according to the poll, an outcome that worries Americans both nationally and on a personal level.

A plurality of poll respondents — 43 percent — said that not raising the debt ceiling would cause ‘major problems’ for the country. 27 percent felt it would affect their personal finances ‘a great deal’ and 37 percent said it would have at least ‘some’ effect.

According to the poll, a 66 percent majority of Americans favor a deal in which “Congress would raise the debt ceiling while cutting between two trillion and four trillion dollars in government spending over the next ten years and raising taxes on some businesses and higher-income Americans.”

Specifically, more than 70 percent of Americans favor a plan that raises taxes on “those who make more than $250 thousand a year,” businesses that own private jets, oil and gas companies – as well as ending the federal subsidies that those businesses receive.

Spending cuts, however, get minimal support. Just 12 percent say they would support cutting the amount spent on Medicare, and only 22 percent would support cuts to Medicaid. Cutting federal subsidies to farmers or benefits for retired government workers get support from just 31 percent and 30 percent of Americans, respectively. Cutting defense spending would seem to be the most acceptable of the cuts, with 47 percent saying they would favor such a measure.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/21/cnn-poll-in-debt-limit-debate-obama-has-the-public-on-his-side/#ixzz1SmpgLlit

They might support a balanced budget amendment, but I am not sure how they want to implement it.

The most recent polls {aside from Fox} have tended to have mixed results for both Obama and the Republicans in this deal. I think it is possible, they might both lose.

Most people want to deal…the recent polls such as Gallup say that much. But they don’t like the idea of raising the debt ceiling even if they think it has to be done, so they want something in return for doing it..such as real progress on the deficits.

And if there is not a deal, all of these polls, including Fox do have one thing in common: they say Republicans will get blamed. So will Obama, but not as much..and if interest rates go up and the economy slows more and things get worse, well it is hard to say how the public will react.

Hopefully there will be a deal that Republicans can support and that the Democrats will be forced to accept.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 7:55 PM

But wait….Michael Medved keeps siting polls everyday that show the Republicans losing this debt debate.

::rollseyes::

jawkneemusic on July 21, 2011 at 7:56 PM

I’m confused… if the poll was targeted to adults, how did Democrats get in there?

malclave on July 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM

ROFL!!! That’s a good one!

capejasmine on July 21, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Obama suddenly wants a short-term extension.

BuckeyeSam on July 21, 2011 at 7:57 PM

I don’t want the senate to give the Won any more keys to the kingdom. The Obamas couldn’t even manage their own personal finances while still in Chicago why do we think they could manage the world’s greatest economy.

Kissmygrits on July 21, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Guess what doesn’t get much support? The McConnell plan. Respondents rejected the idea of letting Obama raise the debt ceiling on his own, 34/65. Not one single demographic supports the idea, not even Democrats (40/60) or liberals (34/65).

I think the point to the McConnell plan was that is was supposed to act as a fail safe if all other plans failed. It was not supposed to be popular. It is interesting that Democrats did not support it, because so many conservatives and Republicans said it was a give away to Democrats..I guess the Democrats did not see it that way.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 7:58 PM

The coming press conference:

“Let me be clear… I’m glad that I took the initiative to bring the Republicans around and make them put forward legislation that I could sign. It wasn’t easy, but that’s why the American people put me in charge. The previous administration pushed the Republicans in the wrong direction, and now with ObamaCuts legislation, we can get this economy – which I inherited – back on track so that we can more good woprk done for the American people.”

beatcanvas on July 21, 2011 at 7:59 PM

“Too bad CNN buried the lede.” ?

“Too bad…”??

C’mon Ed. It’s contemptible. They are prostituting their supposed profession to advance political agendas. It is precisely and exactly the thing they are supposedly dedicated to avoiding.

They are despicable, unprofessional hacks, and it is time to take a cue from the Honorable Congressman from Florida and tell it like it is.

I know you can do it, Ed. Let them have it. They have earned it, and long ago. Time to go Allen West on them.

novaculus on July 21, 2011 at 8:00 PM

To hell with a deal; how about a solution?

Nah, that’s politically unpalatable.

hillbillyjim on July 21, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Why isn’t the RNC running ads showing this poll in Montana, Nebraska, Louisiana, Florida, Missouri and every other state where a Dem is up for re-election next year?

Wait I answered my own question. It’s the RNC.

angryed on July 21, 2011 at 7:25 PM

That would make a terrific ad: juxtapose this poll with Obama’s recent statement that 80% of Americans want to pay more taxes.

This is conservatism’s single biggest problem. The media constantly drill in the perception that responsible people are the weirdos of American society, and moonbats outnumber us by ten-to-one.

Unfortunately you’re right though. This is a problem for conservatives; but it’s not a problem in the eyes of the RNC.

logis on July 21, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Sold!

golfmann on July 21, 2011 at 8:02 PM

But wait….Michael Medved keeps siting polls everyday that show the Republicans losing this debt debate.

::rollseyes::

jawkneemusic on July 21, 2011 at 7:56 PM

If you actually go read this poll, the Republicans are losing the debate in many ways. Most people in the CNN poll supported Obama over the Republicans..I saw an interesting poll not long ago on the balanced budget amendment.. Most people supported it..but when questions were asked such as would you support it if it meant cutting popular programs..the support fell to about 30% and the same was true when asked if you would support it if it required tax increases. I am not sure how the respondents thought the thing was supposed to work. It is like a lot of things, the devil is in the details.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Obama: “Americans polled stupidly.”

csdeven on July 21, 2011 at 8:04 PM

Why isn’t the RNC running ads showing this poll in Montana, Nebraska, Louisiana, Florida, Missouri and every other state where a Dem is up for re-election next year?

Wait I answered my own question. It’s the RNC.

angryed on July 21, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Maybe the RNC are not running ads on this poll, because they worry that the Democrats would respond by citing other findings in the same poll that benefit them. That is the problem with picking through polls and using them in ads, there might be something in there that does not work for you.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Why isn’t the RNC running ads showing this poll in Montana, Nebraska, Louisiana, Florida, Missouri and every other state where a Dem is up for re-election next year?

Wait I answered my own question. It’s the RNC.

angryed on July 21, 2011 at 7:25 PM


RNC: Republican Ninkanpoop Committee

PappyD61 on July 21, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM

If that’s the case…we’re screwed. I’m moving my company to a low tax country. I’m sick of paying for this bs and all these losers who just sit around waiting for their government handout. I am too young to spend the rest of my life paying for someone else’s candy. Screw these entitlement freaks.

jawkneemusic on July 21, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Saw this posted on another site:

The Dems DO have answer to Cut, Cap, and Balance:

It’s called Gut, Grab, and Unbalance.

They want to Gut the private sector, Grab whatever they can and Unbalance the economy.

Marxists don’t care if they have to get they’re utopia though a Cloward-Piven collapse of the economy or if they can fool enough people into voting for it.

NMRN123 on July 21, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Bill O’Reilly has turned on the Tea Party in his talking points LOL! WINNING! Laura Ingraham is supporting the Tea Party. Bill O’Reilly it’s extreme the Tea Party is going to implode GRIN. At least some folks know how to sacrifice for their country Bill.

He’s calling the Tea Party position in the Republican House, radical then he quoted a CNN poll.

Boy the corporate masters are really leaning hard on the talking heads. Convince the folks we got to go deeper into debt…if you are wealthy individual in this country you would be scared if you are a middle class American, you are taking your country back.

Oh Bill is doing the Tea Party a favor now…he’s warning them to abandon their principles or they will be shunned. Sure why not Bill, let’s snatch defeat from the mouth of victory. Bill O’Reilly is a company man.

Dr Evil on July 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM

I think the point to the McConnell plan was that is was supposed to act as a fail safe if all other plans failed. It was not supposed to be popular. It is interesting that Democrats did not support it, because so many conservatives and Republicans said it was a give away to Democrats..I guess the Democrats did not see it that way.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 7:58 PM

First – the Dims did like it – at least Reid did.

Second – you don’t negotiate to buy a house by saying …

I’d like to buy this house for $100,000 less than you are listing it for but, I have to have this house – no if’s, and’s, or but’s – so as long you hold to your price I promise I’ll pay whatever you want for the house in two weeks when I’m tired of haggling with you.

THAT was the McConnel plan – and it was a STUPID ASSED plan.

HondaV65 on July 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM

If that’s the case…we’re screwed. I’m moving my company to a low tax country. I’m sick of paying for this bs and all these losers who just sit around waiting for their government handout. I am too young to spend the rest of my life paying for someone else’s candy. Screw these entitlement freaks.

jawkneemusic on July 21, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Maybe not. It is a big deal to do an amendment like this. It requires ratification by the states..the whole process would take several years. It could be that over time people would begin to realize that if they actually support something like this, then that means they have to be prepared to deal with the consequences. Over time, they could come to understand that and realize that there is no magic bullet when it comes to dealing with the debt. Real choices have to be made.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Someone tell Bill O’Reilly he is an ass.

freedomplow on July 21, 2011 at 8:16 PM

If the Senate passes CCB and O signs it, for the rest of our lives it will be” President Obama saved the US from becoming like Greece by leading us to a balanced budget amendment”.

How often have you heard how great the economy was under the leadership of Clinton, including welfare reform and budget surpluses? No mention of the Republican House and Senate dragging him kicking and screaming.

barnone on July 21, 2011 at 8:17 PM

First – the Dims did like it – at least Reid did.

Second – you don’t negotiate to buy a house by saying …

I’d like to buy this house for $100,000 less than you are listing it for but, I have to have this house – no if’s, and’s, or but’s – so as long you hold to your price I promise I’ll pay whatever you want for the house in two weeks when I’m tired of haggling with you.

THAT was the McConnel plan – and it was a STUPID ASSED plan
HondaV65 on July 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM

I was talking about the results of this poll has cited in the post above in which it was noted that the Democrats did not like the McConnell plan.

Besides, it was not meant to be popular, as I said, it was a fail safe intended to force the situation. If people do not like it, then they can and should come up with a better plan.

And I used to have a real estate license. I don’t think it is really applicable here, but if you want to talk about selling property I have a little story to tell. One time I had an old guy selling land. He turned down 4 offers over the course of 2 years..in the end he took an offer that was less than the first offer he turned down.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Dr Evil on July 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM

The idiot BOR quoted that poll that says 6X% of the public ‘favors compromise’, a completely meaningless poll that Bill seems to think should guide Republicans.

They might just as well have polled “do you think Republicans and democratics should make nice with each other?” That would be just as worthless a poll.

BOR never fails to fail.

slickwillie2001 on July 21, 2011 at 8:18 PM

The GOP will betray you

True_King on July 21, 2011 at 8:20 PM

Excellent news but no surprise.

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Don’t cave now boehner

For the love of Pete

cmsinaz on July 21, 2011 at 8:33 PM

It’ll be interesting to see if the ruling class abides by the will of the American people or decides to do their own corrupt backroom deal instead regardless.

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Most people supported it..but when questions were asked such as would you support it if it meant cutting popular programs..the support fell to about 30% and the same was true when asked if you would support it if it required tax increases. I am not sure how the respondents thought the thing was supposed to work. It is like a lot of things, the devil is in the details.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM

This is what worries me. We have reached the point where approx. 50% of the population is on the government dole. There is no way in hell they will ever willingly give up the handouts. This does not bode well for our republic.

KickandSwimMom on July 21, 2011 at 8:35 PM

2nd that nova

cmsinaz on July 21, 2011 at 8:37 PM

woof-woof…Who let the adults out? woof-woof
sung to the tune of who let the dogs out

huskerdiva on July 21, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Dr Evil on July 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM

What’s even more distressing than O’Reilly is Stuart Varney. He’s been lamenting the debt all over Fox for months now, but he is now advocating for “not letting the country default no matter what.” At first I was puzzled then I remembered he was a Wall Street guy. These people are pathetic.

KickandSwimMom on July 21, 2011 at 8:39 PM

BOR never fails to fail.

slickwillie2001 on July 21, 2011 at 8:18 PM

note to Mr. Roger Ailes….BOR needs to be replaced by a true conservative like Laura Ingraham

huskerdiva on July 21, 2011 at 8:39 PM

CCB GAINING MOMENTUM—COPY AND PASTE THIS POST NOW TO YOUR WEBSITES, FACEBOOK, AND EVERY WHERE IN THE INTERNET. MAKE THIS LEGISLATION, (THE ONLY LEGISLATION IN THE SENATE THAT CAN GO TO OBAMA’S DESK), THE BIGGEST SPAM IN HISTORY!

Rovin on July 21, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Barnone, you KNOW dear leader will take credit of the CCB….in a heartbeat

cmsinaz on July 21, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Besides, it was not meant to be popular, as I said, it was a fail safe intended to force the situation. If people do not like it, then they can and should come up with a better plan.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 8:17 PM

There already is a better plan. CCB/BBA will do what’s necessary, and set limits that are clearly needed.

First rule of negotiating – always be prepared to walk away, if the other side isn’t negotiating in good faith.

I’ve never negotiated anything where it was strategically advantageous to offer any kind of alternative in case nothing else works out…

If you glean nothing else from the poll; we might be losing in micro, but we are winning in macro; the public wants something that appears to be fiscal responsibility.

massrighty on July 21, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Despite him saying he would veto it if it comes to his desk

cmsinaz on July 21, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Well, this should be enough for the idiot middle to realize Obama is an absolute amateur. It proves to me that he is so committed to the Cloward/Piven destruction of this country that he is going to go down with it and be a one term president. Of course, like all progressives and Marxists, they know that once a Marxist program is enacted, Americans are want to give it up.

csdeven on July 21, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Oh My!!! And SO MUCH air time and serious analysis devoted to polls that said the opposite…Oh well, I’ll just wait for another poll….

winston on July 21, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Boehner should take that poll to his next meeting with Barry and especially McConnell with the Gag of 6!

bluemarlin on July 21, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Someone tell Bill O’Reilly he is an ass.

freedomplow on July 21, 2011 at 8:16 PM

What, again?

Well, if you insist….

ElectricPhase on July 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM

What’s even more distressing than O’Reilly is Stuart Varney. He’s been lamenting the debt all over Fox for months now, but he is now advocating for “not letting the country default no matter what.” At first I was puzzled then I remembered he was a Wall Street guy. These people are pathetic.

KickandSwimMom on July 21, 2011 at 8:39 PM

KickandSwimMom on July 21, 201

Someone tell Bill O’Reilly he is an ass.

freedomplow on July 21, 2011 at 8:16 PM

What, again?

Well, if you insist….

ElectricPhase on July 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM1 at 8:39 PM

Corporate media is well Corporate media. O’Reilly and Varney are shamelessly shilling for their companies. Dinosaur media doesn’t have the same influence it used to, as my daughter constantly reminds me, no one get’s their news from the boob tube anymore. And FNC got rid of Glenn Beck, who must have told them, he wouldn’t play their kind of ball. Given what’s happening in England, to the Murdochs, he may have been prescient. I miss that rodeo clown :)

Dr Evil on July 21, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Anyone who wants to have a look at tonight’s factor talking points they post them on FNC website. Bill O’Reilly quotes a CNN Poll LMAO. That’s kinda of unbelievable, the way he’s always bragging about his ratings, and Fox News being so superior…but when you are spinning for the home team, I guess you got use what’s at hand.

I guess he’s not looking out for the folks at all. This wouldn’t be a good time for News Corp to take another hit. All the folks who stopped watching MSNBC and CNN, started watching Fox News, because they don’t bash the Tea Party….First Glenn Beck is gone, and now Bill O’Reilly is lecturing his audience, on their civic duty to capitulate to whatever – the corporate overlords want. I guess Fox News is tired of high ratings.

Dr Evil on July 21, 2011 at 9:48 PM

It’s amazing that CNN didn’t just deep six this poll. What that means is that the poll is dead on correct and CNN can see that the wave of fiscal conservatism is not about to be stopped. You might as well just admit it and be on the front end of revealing that fact. The capitulation of Mark Dayton in the Minnesota government shutdown is just the most recent in a string of defeats for Obamacrats. Wisconsin, New Jersey, Ohio, Indiana, and even a retreat from unbridled spending by a Democrat governor in New York have shown that Americans are tired of the spending binge of the last five years and are in the mood to impose their will on the political class. “Simply put, there is no political demographic at all where the CCB/BBA doesn’t get majority support.” That says it all.

stefano1 on July 21, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Dr Evil on July 21, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Well, the recent events in England are eye-opening. NEwCorp is now taken over by James Murdoch and under his wing apparently all the news outlets are doing the elitist, liberal bullsh*t. I suspect something like that must have been happening at Fox too.

promachus on July 21, 2011 at 10:03 PM

I’m confused… if the poll was targeted to adults, how did Democrats get in there?

malclave on July 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Fake birth certificates.

Lily on July 21, 2011 at 10:14 PM

But wait….Michael Medved keeps siting polls everyday that show the Republicans losing this debt debate.

::rollseyes::

jawkneemusic

Medved….the same clown who has been saying for two years now that Obama wouldn’t intentionally hurt America because all he wants is to get reelected, who is now saying Obama would intentionally hurt Americans to get his way on the debt deal and to get reelected.

That’s Medved’s standard mo. No matter what the situation, he argues that republicans must fold or they’ll be held responsible.

xblade on July 21, 2011 at 10:26 PM

“No more useless commissions” in ObaMao’s own words.

Great video here: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/272482/no-more-useless-commissions-nro-staff

onlineanalyst on July 21, 2011 at 10:31 PM

BOR has to go. What a waste of 60 min of prime time. Hannity’s an airhead too, but at least he lets his guests get their point across. Seriously, rotate Ingraham, Perino, and Hume in that 8pm spot. BOR is barely good enough for radio. C’mon Roger, do it for the folks.

teacherman on July 21, 2011 at 10:35 PM

I think more people who favor tax increases in addition to raising the debt ceiling may not know the difference between raising revenue through the elimination of tax loopholes and raising revenue through tax increases. Remove loopholes, lower tax rates and we don’t have to raise taxes.

Raising taxes is for cowards afraid to make the tough decisions.

pjean on July 21, 2011 at 11:02 PM

you don’t negotiate to buy a house by saying … I’d like to buy this house for $100,000 less than you are listing it for but, I have to have this house – no if’s, and’s, or but’s – so as long you hold to your price I promise I’ll pay whatever you want for the house in two weeks when I’m tired of haggling with you. THAT was the McConnel plan – and it was a STUPID ASSED plan.
HondaV65 on July 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM

It was actually a lot worse than that. It was like handing the buyer’s agent a pile of signed blank checks and all your credit cards, then hoping you can convince your family it was THAT GUY’s fault when you go bankrupt.

Yes, of course it was pathologically stupid to publically announce that offer at the beginning of the “negotiations.” But even if this were a carefully guarded secret, it would still be a mind-blowingly idiotic idea.

logis on July 21, 2011 at 11:02 PM

Ron Paul is against it. I agree with him.

Spathi on July 21, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Does this qualify CNN for the 2011 Orwell Award?

fred5678 on July 21, 2011 at 11:35 PM

BOR has to go. What a waste of 60 min of prime time. teacherman on July 21, 2011 at 10:35 PM

BOR and Varney were awful tonight.
BOR has his talking points pounding the Tea Party for about 3-4 minutes, then when Laura Ing. starts her rebuttal, BOR interrupts and restates his position.
Worse, however, and most disappointing was Varney, who stated that the Tea Party members of congress “must compromise at any cost.” A little reflection shows how stupid that comment was. Varney claims that the risk of default is so great that it overwhelms everything else?

GaltBlvnAtty on July 21, 2011 at 11:45 PM

LMAO!

The CNN propagandist runs a poll which attempts to project his own liberal hatred of the GOP and accidentally finds 67% support for … the GOP.

What a dick.

Jaibones on July 21, 2011 at 11:54 PM

BOR has to go. What a waste of 60 min of prime time. Hannity’s an airhead too, but at least he lets his guests get their point across. Seriously, rotate Ingraham, Perino, and Hume in that 8pm spot. BOR is barely good enough for radio. C’mon Roger, do it for the folks.

teacherman on July 21, 2011 at 10:35 PM

On the other hand, they have completely screwed up the 5pm slot now too with the Bob Beckel show.

slickwillie2001 on July 22, 2011 at 12:04 AM

A House leadership aide, meanwhile, told National Journal that Boehner is letting House Republicans know that he will unveil a debt-ceiling plan to them during their closed-door conference on Friday. Details of what he will lay out are not immediately known.

Seems HS Boehner blinked just after Pres. Obama did… We all know how well surprises go for us Conservatives in Washington Deal…

I can see next week’s MSM’s headlines…

“Republicans WIN!!! They get to raise the Debt Ceiling”

Y314K on July 22, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Does this qualify CNN for the 2011 Orwell Award?

It ought to qualify it for a Darwin, if we got it before it could reproduce.

This is pure TEA!

2012 is gonna be epic!

docjohn52 on July 22, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Are we so meek and pusillanimous as to sit idly staring at our screens while the US goes down the hole of leftist failure?
 
Why aren’t packed Tea Party buses descending on Washington and Harry Reid’s house as we speak? How ’bout some SEIU tactics?
 

ignatzk on July 22, 2011 at 12:53 AM

“That may create a problem for the Republican party, because most Americans think that GOP has been acting irresponsibly in the debt ceiling talks and they will blame congressional Republicans, not President Barack Obama, if no action is taken on the debt ceiling by August 2,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

They will blame Republicans? Is that what the poll says or is this total speculation on the part of the Polling Propaganda Director?

Dollayo on July 22, 2011 at 2:42 AM

It is not only, what American’s think” that matters, but more importantly, what a good leader can get them to believe! It is time to change “what Americans have been led to think, to what americans ought to think!

Why would we accept “what American’s think” as a criterion to fix that mess we’re in, when it has been caused directly by listening and following,”what American’s think?”

Don L on July 22, 2011 at 6:58 AM

One time I had an old guy selling land. He turned down 4 offers over the course of 2 years..in the end he took an offer that was less than the first offer he turned down.

Terrye on July 21, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Gosh, Terrye, that sounds must too close to how we elected our present government….

Don L on July 22, 2011 at 7:01 AM

boehner snatching defeat? please tell me no…

cmsinaz on July 22, 2011 at 7:14 AM

BOR wrote off The Surge before it was fully operational.

BOR doesn’t see a problem that yet another law can fix.

BOR claims he is for the folks, pretends to be a populist and then takes an elitist view towards the people as a whole.

BOR feels justified in telling the Tea Party people what to do, yet can’t fix in his own mind the difference between the deficit, the debt, income and outgo, along with default.

There is one line from his bio that explains this attitude and I will highlight the part that lets his view all make sense:

Bill was born in Manhattan and raised on Long Island. He has a Bachelor’s degree in History from Marist College, along with a Master’s in Broadcast Journalism from Boston University and another Master’s Degree in Public Administration from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.

Harvard, Kennedy, Government, Public Administration… makes sense now, doesn’t it?

ajacksonian on July 22, 2011 at 7:31 AM

ajacksonian on July 22, 2011 at 7:31 AM

yepper….thanks aj

cmsinaz on July 22, 2011 at 7:35 AM

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