Conservatives push back: Cut, Cap and Balance is the plan

posted at 12:20 pm on July 21, 2011 by Tina Korbe

To listen to the president, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, the mainstream media and even some of my favorite conservative pundits, you’d think the House of Representatives hadn’t passed “Cut, Cap and Balance” Monday. The plan, carefully crafted by the Republican Study Committee and then improved upon by various members of the House, is routinely dismissed as extreme — if it’s acknowledged at all.

Reid yesterday actually said he’s waiting for Speaker John Boehner to inform him what kind of deficit reduction and debt limit increase deal would pass the House. RSC Chairman Jim Jordan quickly put Reid in his place, reminding Reid that the House had already passed Cut, Cap and Balance.

On the conservative side, pundits and strategists seem to assume a balanced budget amendment is too far-fetched, that the hurdles are too high. But CCB requires only that an amendment pass the House and Senate and go to the states before the nation raises its debt ceiling — and some 20 Democratic senators have at one time or another indicated they would support such an amendment to balance the budget.

Other conservatives have legitimate objections to a balanced budget amendment and seem to have consigned themselves to one of two alternative “solutions” to the debt ceiling debate — the as-yet-to-be-crafted Gang of Six plan or the McConnell compromise. I certainly have more respect for those who have valid concerns about the potential unintended consequences of a balanced budget amendment than I do for those who simply want to give up before Cut, Cap and Balance is even tried in the Senate. But I still maintain Cut, Cap and Balance is the best plan on the table.

So, as a supporter of CCB, I was relieved when a series of three reinforcements came across my computer screen yesterday and this morning.

First, yesterday afternoon, I had the privilege of speaking via Skype with a couple of House Republicans as a part of the House Republican Conference’s Blogger Row on a balanced budget amendment. Both Rep. Steve Southerland of Florida and Rep. Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia reiterated their support for Cut, Cap and Balance and said they’re optimistic a balanced budget amendment could pass.

“The reason I supported Cut, Cap and Balance was not because it was a Republican plan, but because it was the American family plan,” Southerland said. “It is based in common sense and every American family, every small business — they know you can’t spend more money than you have. I learned that from a very young age with my allowance. My parents gave me a certain amount of money and I couldn’t go over that. That’s not hard.”

About a CCB vote in the Senate, Southerland expressed my sentiments exactly.

“We don’t know if we don’t try,” Southerland said. “So much of the conventional wisdom in Washington D.C. is not the conventional wisdom that our Founding Fathers had. This place, they love to quit and just call somebody else in to finish the job that they were set out to do. I think if we don’t continue to push hard, then we’ll certainly never know.”

He had sharp words for Harry Reid, as well. “We work over here in the House,” he said. “We send him legislation. It’s almost like he doesn’t even come to work.”

Westmoreland echoed Southerland. “We’ve still got faith that it might pass in the Senate,” he said. “It would take senators coming to their senses that spending has been out of control. Even though the president says he doesn’t need a constitutional amendment to do his job, I think he does. Hopefully the Senate can be persuaded that the cuts that we’re doing are very reasonable — $111 billion in the ’12 budget. I think the cap is very reasonable, 20 percent of GDP, and then, of course, to me, the balanced budget amendment makes sense. Forty-nine of the 50 states already have it. It’s good policy.”

Westmoreland even has hope the president would sign the legislation he’s promised to veto. “I think if the Senate passed it, he would really be obligated to sign it or face defeat in 2012.”

Then, yesterday evening, after my conversations with Southerland and Westmoreland, Sen. Jim DeMint eloquently defended Cut, Cap and Balance on the Greta Van Susteren show. Every word is worth watching.


Then, finally, this morning, Heritage Foundation president Ed Feulner eloquently explained why the think tank has thrown its weight behind CCB, as well. He writes:

As of this moment, only one plan in Congress attempts transformative change that puts America on the path to getting spending under control before raising the debt limit. That is the Cut, Cap and Balance Act passed by the House of Representatives on Monday night. It isn’t perfect, but it is definitely a step in the right direction.

The act cuts federal spending immediately, caps it by statute going forward, and requires passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution, which would then be sent to the states for ratification.

If you haven’t heard about it, you’re not alone. The nation’s media all but ignored this historic vote or dismissed the Cut, Cap and Balance Act as an empty gesture. CBS’s Bob Schieffer once again spoke for the establishment when he called it “a total waste of time…part of this little Kabuki dance that we go through.”

This media establishment took its cue from President Obama, who showered his trademark disdain on the House vote, not only threatening a veto but also announcing a so-called breakthrough in negotiations just hours before the House voted. In doing so, Mr. Obama refused to engage the arguments of Cut, Cap and Balance and signaled his fear of this serious proposal.

The House has already passed Cut, Cap and Balance. Conservatives should keep up the pressure for a vote in the Senate. Make the Senate fail it. Make the president veto it. But don’t give into the lie that Republicans haven’t put forward a plan.


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Wow…finally not buying into the DC/media narrative and fighting through the BS…

Keep pushing the plan until it becomes the narrative

katy on July 21, 2011 at 12:25 PM

I don’t think dingy will bring the ccb to the floor for vote and in the slime chance he does and it was to pass, bho will veto it! I have no idea why he would do that.
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letget on July 21, 2011 at 12:27 PM

When you walk through life with no plan, one will eventually find you.

Chuck Schick on July 21, 2011 at 12:30 PM

CBS’s Bob Schieffer once again spoke for the establishment when he called it “a total waste of time…part of this little Kabuki dance that we go through.”

Bob is fighting the good fight here. Reminds me of the 300 Spartans or something. A cause worth dying for. Good for you, Bob.

a capella on July 21, 2011 at 12:32 PM

The House has already passed Cut, Cap and Balance. Conservatives should keep up the pressure for a vote in the Senate. Make the Senate fail it. Make the president veto it. But don’t give into the lie that Republicans haven’t put forward a plan.

1000+ Yeah Tina!!!!! Pressure the Senators, make them vote. We only need 4 votes!!! Pressure, Pressure, Pressure.

txmomof6 on July 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM

“You can’t vote on a speech.” I love it!

txhsmom on July 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Pipe.Dream.

This is all fantasy talk (and you all know it too) until we get Tea Party leadership but by Tyne it may be too late…..

LordMaximus on July 21, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Harry Reid has scheduled a vote on CCB for Saturday, I think.

He no doubt plans that it can’t get cloture, and goes down in defeat. Then the Gang of 6 or McConnell plans are brought out as “moderate” and “bipartisan”.

MSM carries water for “moderate” and “bipartisan” plans on Sunday talk shows.

Wethal on July 21, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Reid yesterday actually said he’s waiting for Speaker John Boehner to inform him what kind of deficit reduction and debt limit increase deal would pass the House.

Gang of 234, Harry.

Shay on July 21, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Bob is fighting the good fight here. Reminds me of the 300 Spartans or something. A cause worth dying for. Good for you, Bob.

a capella on July 21, 2011 at 12:32 PM

The guys in 300 were men, bob schieffer, not so much.

VegasRick on July 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Cut, Cap and Balance is the only plan as it should be.
If Reid and the President prefer to shutdown the government and lay off thousands of workers or default on our obligations, rather than pass the legislation presented to them, so be it. We can bring them up on high crimes and misdemeanors afterwards.

paulsur on July 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Finally! John Thune was selling it too on Greta last night. There needs to be a full court press. It’s time to saturate the media cycle with Republican law makers on every cable news dial selling this Bill. You passed it now sell it.

Dr Evil on July 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM

you can’t spend more money than you have…

Everyone who has to meet the bills knows this.

Obama likely also does know this but he doesn’t care, his goal is to increase debt and otherwise, spend other people’s money even when they don’t have it and he doesn’t.

Seriously, I do believe he’s set on a goal of wrecking this nation.

If he wasn’t, he’d be leading the way in reducing spending and paying our obligations with what we have and not increasing debt. But he’s not doing that. Leads me to the conclusion I stated in the second paragraph ^^ here.

Lourdes on July 21, 2011 at 12:38 PM

Gang of 6 is all the media are talking about. The idiot Senate completely kneecapped the House.

Daemonocracy on July 21, 2011 at 12:38 PM

The plan, carefully crafted by the Republican Study Committee and then improved upon by various members of the House, is routinely dismissed as extreme — if it’s acknowledged at all.

MSNBC acknowledged it, by referring to the plan as “Cut, cap, and deceive.”

Leftist media doing its non-partisan best to inform the public.

Bishop on July 21, 2011 at 12:38 PM

Hold. the. line.

4Freedom on July 21, 2011 at 12:39 PM

It would seem to be a pretty simple issue- Obama is running trillion dollar plus deficits and Democrats seem to want that to be the norm from now on. And apparently some Republicans agree, arguing over cuts of a few billion here and there.

The fact of the matter is though that spending in Washington has radically increased in just the past couple of years. As Mark Steyn points out today a 2008 headline read, “U.S. Budget Deficit Hits Record $438 Billion For Year”

Check this out-

2007 federal spending: $2.73 trillion
2008 federal spending: $2.90 trillion
2009 federal spending: $3.11 trillion
2010 federal spending: $3.55 trillion
2011 federal spending: $3.82 trillion

So yearly spending has increased by just over a trillion dollars (and the GOP should be hitting the Democrats with that every single day) and we’re now looking at a yearly deficit of about a trillion dollars. Mmm, could there possibly be a link?

Roll back spending to 2007 levels and I’d say that a massive part of this problem is solved.

Jay Mac on July 21, 2011 at 12:39 PM

If CCB gets to the Senate, I think they’ll pass it, and I do not believe Barry will veto it — he’ll use some sleazy “no signing” BS to let it become law. The irony here is that if this thing passes both houses and becomes law, the economy will start to rebound and Barry will be in a better position for re-election — and don’t think that the Obama Regime doesn’t know that. Looking at today’s awful PPP numbers on Barry, there’s no doubt he’ll be looking to become President Cut, Cap, and Balance as quickly as he can.

Rational Thought on July 21, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Perhaps you missed the fact that Reid has actually scheduled a vote for Saturday on CCB.

I don’t know if the rule under which this will come to the Senate floor will aloow for amendments, but I hope so. If the Democrats have a specific plan to raise the debt ceiling that can pass the two houses of Congress then we might finally get a look at what that plan is in the amendment process.

MTF on July 21, 2011 at 12:40 PM

The Tea Party is looking for confirmation from the new members of congress that they will be steadfast. Getting this confirmation will further enthuse the millions of Americans who joined the effort in 2010 to take back our once great America and will boost our chances of getting even more true conservatives elected in 2012.

GaltBlvnAtty on July 21, 2011 at 12:40 PM

The big problem I have with this plan is that it makes Constitutional requirements dependant upon economic figures generated, presumably, by agents of the Executive branch. Doesn’t that strike anyone as being an invitation to massive manipulation?

JohnGalt23 on July 21, 2011 at 12:41 PM

The Republicans need to get out there now, and not wait for the weekend they need to start selling Cut, Cap and Balance. They need a big push back effort now not later.

Dr Evil on July 21, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Sounds about right wethal

Tru dat daemon

cmsinaz on July 21, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Obama dithers and the Senate is out to lunch.

GarandFan on July 21, 2011 at 12:46 PM

The idiot Senate completely kneecapped the House.

Daemonocracy on July 21, 2011 at 12:38 PM

That was the plan of the senate Dems and RINOs all along.

Wethal on July 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM

Th

e big problem I have with this plan is that it makes Constitutional requirements dependant upon economic figures generated, presumably, by agents of the Executive branch. Doesn’t that strike anyone as being an invitation to massive manipulation?

JohnGalt23 on July 21, 2011 at 12:41 PM

You may be right. However, we are in danger fiscally, both choices are dreadful. However, we need to actually make it to Nov. 2012 in order to have an election.

txmomof6 on July 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM

Make the Senate fail it. Make the president veto it. But don’t give into the lie that Republicans haven’t put forward a plan.

Right on, Tina, right on.

Weight of Glory on July 21, 2011 at 12:49 PM

NYT says Boehner and Obama close to major deal. OMG. We are going under the bus.

txmomof6 on July 21, 2011 at 12:54 PM

NYT: GAME OVER…BUDGET DEAL SOON

30 Year Long Bonds are surging….

LordMaximus on July 21, 2011 at 12:54 PM

UPDATE: Carney says NO deal…but he is a Liar…sooooo…the deal must be very close

Keep watching Bonds…it’s over people, it was inevitable, it was just a matter of time.

LordMaximus on July 21, 2011 at 12:55 PM

The House has already passed Cut, Cap and Balance. Conservatives should keep up the pressure for a vote in the Senate. Make the Senate fail it. Make the president veto it. But don’t give into the lie that Republicans haven’t put forward a plan.

They apparently plan to. That’s the google news update from the WSJ right now. The Senate is expected to vote on – and kill – the plan on Saturday.

Vyce on July 21, 2011 at 12:56 PM

It’s time for Senate Republicans to form their own gang in favor of CCB. Let it be the gang of 47 or whatever number and publicize it as such. The gang of 234 is the House version and it has a simple genius to it. Once the number is established, it needs to be hammered into the subconscious of the nation every time a Republican stands in front of a television or radio microphone. The Democrats have their lies down and communicate their lies in a unified and effective way. Witness the continual mantra put out by the most vile congressman in the House, Debbie Wasserman-Shultz when she spews lies about Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Look at the lies of President Obama making up his own poll results out of thin air about a “balanced approach” that has nothing to do with actually balancing the budget. The truth as presented in a unified way by the Republicans would of course be far more effective.

stefano1 on July 21, 2011 at 12:58 PM

FIGHT THE POWER!!

The power being the OLM (MSM)…

Khun Joe on July 21, 2011 at 12:59 PM

NYT says Boehner and Obama close to major deal. OMG. We are going under the bus.

txmomof6 on July 21, 2011 at 12:54 PM

That was the OTHER google news headline. Boehner telling the GOP to “brace for a compromise.”

You might want to “brace” for a new job, John.

Vyce on July 21, 2011 at 1:01 PM

@SpeakerBoehnerSpeaker John Boehner

False. Senate should pass #CutCapBalance. RT NYT NEWS ALERT: Obama and Boehner Close to Major Budget Deal, Congressional Leaders Are Told

Maybe not. Holding breath.

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txmomof6 on July 21, 2011 at 1:04 PM

“Harry, I know you’re old and not very bright … but if you actually show up for work every day, you’ll find out that we already passed a bill and sent it to your staff. Look sharp, Dingy!”

- John Boehner

Jaibones on July 21, 2011 at 1:04 PM

blink on July 21, 2011 at 1:03 PM
Specifically the 23 Dems up for reelection.

txmomof6 on July 21, 2011 at 1:05 PM

“You can’t vote on a speech.” I love it!

txhsmom on July 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM

I saw DeMint last night. He was terrific. I’m glad he said that SS checks will go out unless Obama decides not to send them, and that Obama can make things look like chaos even when there isn’t chaos.

INC on July 21, 2011 at 1:11 PM

I love Sen. DeMint. He has sound principles and logic informing his decisions.

onlineanalyst on July 21, 2011 at 1:11 PM

It needs to be shouted over the media noise that the rating agencies like Cut, Cap, and Balance.

onlineanalyst on July 21, 2011 at 1:13 PM

The future cuts will not happen. Everybody knows this. I understand that we all want to find a way out of this mess, but self-deception isn’t the way to go.

Bugler on July 21, 2011 at 1:15 PM

I hope the people can force Cut, Cap and Balance down the ruling class’ throat, for a change. That would be swell.

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Sorry, I dont believe in the power of the force.

CCB is a symbolic vote. It wont survive Reid or Obama, never mind both. At some point, its time to knuckle up and quit the wishful thinking.

swamp_yankee on July 21, 2011 at 1:22 PM

The ruling class insists we only have two choices: we either accept one of their crooked plans or they’ll continue the crooked status quo until such time that they convince us that we have no choice but to accept one of their crooked plans.

If McConnell isn’t mustering Senate Republicans behind CCB, he should resign from leadership immediately.

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM

swamp_yankee on July 21, 2011 at 1:22 PM

I’m don’t mind pacifists. I think that it is natural that a population includes different kinds of people and pacifists can make contributions to society to, obviously, however in populations where the numbers/influence of pacifists grows to great it can be dangerous to their chance of survival.

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 1:26 PM

I’m = I

/facepalm

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Why does the GOP think the Balance Budget amendment can pass the house when CCB only got 55% of the house vote?

WashJeff on July 21, 2011 at 1:27 PM

in populations where the numbers/influence of pacifists grows to great it can be dangerous to their chance of survival.

Clarification: Dangerous to the entire population, not just themselves.

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 1:29 PM

It wont survive Reid or Obama, never mind both. At some point, its time to knuckle up and quit the wishful thinking.

swamp_yankee on July 21, 2011 at 1:22 PM

If they don’t like our plan, what’s their plan? Once they have a plan maybe we’ll finally have two different parties to negotiate a compromise rather than the Republicans negotiating with themselves.

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 1:33 PM

The so-called political conventional wisdom is nothing more than a poll of pundits and the MSM clearly populated more by one side of the spectrem. If we consent to be governed by polls, why bother to vote in elections?

Terrie on July 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM

I typed “spectrum” but my Droid changed it to “spectrem.” I need to proofread before I submitting comments!

Terrie on July 21, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Yes, I wish some activists would start calling Democrat Senators and tell them that they must vote in favor of CCB because default would ruin us all.

blink on July 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM

There is nothing in the way of triangulation but Obama.

Dr Evil on July 21, 2011 at 1:49 PM

My big concern with the BBA is that the libs could use it to jack taxes and gut defense. I’d like to see more protections for both in any BBA before I’m totally onboard.

Iblis on July 21, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Terrie on July 21, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Great comment regardless.

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM

CCB is a symbolic vote. It wont survive Reid or Obama, never mind both. At some point, its time to knuckle up and quit the wishful thinking.

swamp_yankee on July 21, 2011 at 1:22 PM

If it doesn’t survive, fine… no debt ceiling increase, no more debt, and then Barack Obama has some hard choices to make.

JohnGalt23 on July 21, 2011 at 2:28 PM

it doesn’t survive, fine… no debt ceiling increase, no more debt, and then Barack Obama has some hard choices to make.

JohnGalt23 on July 21, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Its not all about the budget, there is an economy to nurse. If there is no deal, it will have a negative impact on the markets and employment. I just dont see this as some great victory for conservatives. We are Americans first, and we will look like a banana republic. Foriegn countries will delight in our demise. Worse, the media and the Obama re-election team will be able to blame the economic turmoil on Republicans for the first time. And they will.

Obama owns the economy now, after a default, it will be Obama and the Republicans mess. That’s what they want.

swamp_yankee on July 21, 2011 at 2:37 PM

I don’t understand why the House has to yield to the Senate – why don’t they have to yield to the guys who actually have a voted on plan?

katiejane on July 21, 2011 at 2:43 PM

INC on July 21, 2011 at 1:11 PM

I saw Sen. DeMint also and he did a great job of explaining the CCB. For once Greta let her guest speak:-)

bluefox on July 21, 2011 at 3:26 PM

FloatingRock on July 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM

McConnell works behind the scenes against others in his party. He’s busy laying the groundwork to become Majority Leader of the Senate, which I hope fails. Seeing how he never supported any Conservative Tea Party Candidates and worked against them from what I’ve read.

bluefox on July 21, 2011 at 3:29 PM

WashJeff on July 21, 2011 at 1:27 PM

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll606.xml

bluefox on July 21, 2011 at 3:32 PM

blink on July 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Hi, I don’t have any confidence that a call from the American people could take priority over the calls(orders) they have received from their Leaders or the W.H. I may take a look and see which Dem Senators may be up for re-election. I’ve seen too much of some Dem House blue dogs that voted the “wrong” way. Then when they were up for re-election, they had R opponents and ads run against them by their own party. Not many left in the House now of the blue dogs.

bluefox on July 21, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Jim DeMint was great. He’s exactly right, the Dems are against CCB because it would change the way they campaign. they would no longer be able to bribe voters with government goodies in order to get their votes.

Common Sense on July 21, 2011 at 4:14 PM