WaPo poll puts blame for debt crisis on … everyone

posted at 8:48 am on July 20, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

The latest Washington Post/ABC poll doesn’t deliver good news to either side of the debt-ceiling standoff.  Voters appear to be putting more blame on Republicans than on Barack Obama for the lack of a deal, but both get solid majorities disapproving of their actions thus far:

Majorities of Americans see both President Obama and congressional Republicans as not willing enough to compromise in their budget negotiations, but the public views the GOP leaders as particularly intransigent, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

There is also growing dissatisfaction among Republicans with the hard-line stance of their congressional representatives: Fifty-eight percent say their leaders are not doing enough to strike a deal, up from 42 percent in March. …

There is also broad dissatisfaction with Obama’s unwillingness to reach across the aisle: Nearly six in 10 of those polled say the president has not been open enough to compromise. Among independents, 79 percent say Republicans aren’t willing enough to make a deal, while 62 percent say the same of Obama.

Republicans may also be losing the war of perception about who stands with whom in the debates over the deficit and the economy. A majority view the president as more committed to protecting the interests of the middle class and small businesses, while large majorities see Republicans as defending the economic interests of big corporations and Wall Street financial institutions.

For sample watchers, this isn’t one of the WaPo/ABC series’ worst sampling performances.  At 32/26/34 it undersamples Republicans (and Democrats slightly, as well), but it’s still an improvement over their 10-point gap in April.  The June sample had the same six-point gap and undersampled both parties more than this one does.  Gallup showed a six-point gap in May, but that was also taken at the same time that Obama got his Osama bin Laden mission bump, too.

The sample won’t make too much difference in this poll, except perhaps in Obama’s approval numbers, which I’ll get to in a moment.  The big takeaway from this survey is that a failure to reach a deal will damage both sides, which isn’t exactly a surprise in politics; no one gets a clean victory or defeat in these battles.  Within Republican ranks, pressure has begun to make a deal, which may be why some GOP leaders have begun looking for Plans B, C, and D.  Republican respondents that paint the GOP as too resistant to a bargain has climbed 16 points since March to 58%. On the other hand, Republicans have gained traction with their argument that tax cuts create jobs, flipping that from 41/45 in March to 47/44 now.

At the same time, that 62% of respondents that claim that Obama is too resistant to a deal can’t possibly comprise just Republicans and independents.  However, half of all Democrats worry that Obama will give away too much in a deal.  The WaPo’s analysis of the data doesn’t discuss much more than that about Democrats; they spend most of their time focusing on Republicans.  That’s both a measure of the leadership Republicans have taken on providing actual plans to deal with the crisis, and the media’s attempt to hang the whole issue on them rather than on the administration that blew up the budget over the last two years.

The public hasn’t forgotten that, though.  Obama’s overall approval rating stayed underwater, virtually unchanged from June at 47/48.  On the issues, he fares much worse:

  • Economy: 39/57, was 40/59 in June
  • Budget deficit: 38/60, was 33/61
  • Taxes: 45/47, was 50/44 in January, last time question asked

Obama’s insistence on getting tax hikes may be taking its toll.  On the economic questions, Obama has remained mired in overwhelming disapproval — and it’s interesting that the WaPo/ABC survey doesn’t ask for an approval rating on job creation.

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The blame lies with both parties (and Progressive Leadership in both). DUH!!

The GOP under Bush was spending like crazy for all of his pet programs (although dwarfed by the DOTUS and his minions).

O/T: The Weekly Standard is having a CHRISTIGASM.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hmm-chris-christie-headed-iowa_577153.html

PappyD61 on July 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM

Obama’s overall approval rating stayed underwater, virtually unchanged from June at 47/48. On the issues, he fares much worse:

Economy: 39/57, was 40/59 in June
Budget deficit: 38/60, was 33/61
Taxes: 45/47, was 50/44 in January, last time question asked

It is mind-boggling to see his numbers on individual issues so p-ss poor, yet he’s in the high 40′s on overall approval.

Doughboy on July 20, 2011 at 8:51 AM

hold fast, victory is close and as more money is cut off from the left wing syndicate and their elite allies they will be weakened even further.

rob verdi on July 20, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Does anybody think Obama really cares about his approval rating? He’s going to ram through what he wants to do regardless of public opinion.

search4truth on July 20, 2011 at 8:54 AM

This is what happens with a drooling lsm and dear leader with the biggest megaphone

But we knew this would happen so take the bulls by the horns and git’er done

cmsinaz on July 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM

Doughboy, the sheeple still like him

cmsinaz on July 20, 2011 at 8:56 AM

I hope the Republicans don’t panic over this kind of polling. The president as an individual will usually poll better than “Congressional Republicans/Democrats”. People hate Congress, but the wrath isn’t usually focused on one person or party because the same people who hate congress also usually approve of their own representative. I don’t think this kind of polling has much value.

forest on July 20, 2011 at 8:58 AM

His entire focus is raising taxes.Do all democrats want to pay more?

docflash on July 20, 2011 at 8:58 AM

Why did the GOP allow Obama to roll them when it would have taken so little to throw it back in Obama’s face?

As soon as Obama declared war on corporate-jet owners, the GOP should have said fine, eliminate the accelerated depreciation. But in doing so, they should have held a press conference in which they highlighted (1) their effort to appease Obama’s insatiable desire for tax revenue, (2) the minor amount of tax revenue to be generated (absolutely and relatively speaking), (3) the detrimental effect on the corporate-jet manufacturing industry (noting the locations and corresponding congressional districts of those plants).

I think Obama would have suffered horribly.

BuckeyeSam on July 20, 2011 at 8:59 AM

This is why I put little, if any, faith in polls these days. You have no idea who is doing the asking, who they are asking and what exactly it is they are asking. But when they compile all the results, they slap the designation “scientific” on the end product as if that alone gives it any weight and then throw it out there for all to behold and call it authoritative.

You could do the exact same thing with horse racing bets.

pilamaye on July 20, 2011 at 9:00 AM

I was at a dinner party last night – and people are openly talking about leaving the USA.

Incredible.

jake-the-goose on July 20, 2011 at 9:00 AM

I was at a dinner party last night – and people are openly talking about leaving the USA.

Incredible.

jake-the-goose on July 20, 2011 at 9:00 AM

Did they say why? Was it because of Obama?

Doughboy on July 20, 2011 at 9:03 AM

Does anybody think Obama really cares about his approval rating? He’s going to ram through what he wants to do regardless of public opinion.

That’s good, right? I mean, Presidents aren’t supposed to care about their approval ratings (even though they all do).

YYZ on July 20, 2011 at 9:04 AM

I talked to a neighbor (old school Republican) and she said that they should just compromise and get it over with… Grrrrr.

I asked, why do we always compromise up instead of compromise down with regards to the debt? She just looked at me and then we talked about the weather…

Fallon on July 20, 2011 at 9:06 AM

It’s all in how you phrase the question:

Can you afford to have more taxes taken out of your paycheck to provide more spending by your federal government?

Rovin on July 20, 2011 at 9:09 AM

jake-the-goose,
I’ve heard talk like that as well.

rob verdi on July 20, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Just imagine what the poll numbers would be with an honest media.

Nethicus on July 20, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Has anyone seen any specifics on the Gang-of-Six’s tax changes other than eliminating the AMT? I’m hearing today that they are cowardly proposing to hide increases by limiting Schedule A deductions for mortgage interest and charitable contributions. I understand that there’s a trade off lower rates in exchange for limitation on deductions, but I thought these clowns were interested in simplifying the tax code.

BuckeyeSam on July 20, 2011 at 9:10 AM

I was at a dinner party last night – and people are openly talking about leaving the USA.

Incredible.

jake-the-goose on July 20, 2011 at 9:00 AM

My 14-year-old has already decided she is going to live in Canada. She says we have screwed up this country too much. Everyone I know with money is moving it offshore. The country is going Galt.

rockmom on July 20, 2011 at 9:12 AM

The TEA party members in the house aren’t concerned about reelection so what kind of pressure is WA PO a poll supposed to put on them?

The President on the other hand wants reelected.

Dr Evil on July 20, 2011 at 9:17 AM

I was at a dinner party last night – and people are openly talking about leaving the USA.

Incredible.

jake-the-goose on July 20, 2011 at 9:00 AM

It’s sad when people are just giving up like that.

Crux Australis on July 20, 2011 at 9:20 AM

BuckeyeSam on July 20, 2011 at 9:10 AM

I’m hearing some of this too Sam. Wait until this legislation gets to the House in print, and then you’ll see Tea Party conservatives go nuts over this lunacy. When you hear the liberal media “cheering on this gang of six”, be very worried.

Rovin on July 20, 2011 at 9:22 AM

While we’re apportioning “blame,” let’s hand a big chunk of it to polls.

I suspect polls are what have encouraged some cowardly “conservatives” to lie down in front of the Osama Obama steamroller and acquiesce to his economy-killing actions.

Polls may well have driven some so-called “pundits” to mask the reality of the impending economic disaster in theoretical terms and see it as more political gamesmanship.

It won’t matter what polls indicate when the dung hits the rotary ventilator. It will splash equally over all. The difference is that some of us know it’s coming, while the delusional hide their heads behind the skirts of “process” and politics.

In short, I counsel all to ignore polls and go for the gut reaction. When destruction is at hand, all that will suffice is some kind of action, not the namby-pamby “oooh, the polls say…” crap.

MrScribbler on July 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM

As long as the old media is in the democrat’s pocket you’ll never get a large majority to agree with Republicans.

Watch your local news and you’ll see what agenda they’re pushing. They form their news around national media and never think for themselves.

Vince on July 20, 2011 at 9:27 AM

I was at a dinner party last night – and people are openly talking about leaving the USA.

Incredible.

jake-the-goose on July 20, 2011 at 9:00 AM

A lot of people are talking about leaving Illinois as well. Unfortunately, you have to be able to write off getting much for your house is you leave.

Hubby’s been talking about leaving the country as well. We have had discussions regarding how long do you stay and fight for your country. I’m for staying and fighting but I’m more Irish than he is and he has a little French in him, lol.

I think, naking Obama a one term president will do wonders to quiet this talk.

Fallon on July 20, 2011 at 9:29 AM

Don’t leave the country. Don’t run. Read this from Peter Ferrara first.

John the Libertarian on July 20, 2011 at 9:30 AM

When the libs get pinned this what they do, its not the left’s fault because everybody’s supposedly doing whatever is bad.
Its lying by other means.

The state owned media is shoveling the shill at a high rate and manipulating their polls to excuse themselves while the country circles the toilet bowl.

Remember when the Democrats and their minions are screaming the rest of the country is winning.

Let-em scream, the louder the better.

Speakup on July 20, 2011 at 9:34 AM

I think, making Obama a one term president will do wonders to quiet this talk.

lol

Fallon on July 20, 2011 at 9:35 AM

I WEEP FOR MY COUNTRY…

OmahaConservative on July 20, 2011 at 9:43 AM

This is why I put little, if any, faith in polls these days. You have no idea who is doing the asking, who they are asking and what exactly it is they are asking.
pilamaye on July 20, 2011 at 9:00 AM

Especially with media polls. I also wonder how many polls they commission at a time. My bet is they pay for around 5 polls and then publish the one with the results that most suits their agenda.

tommyboy on July 20, 2011 at 9:43 AM

The gang of 6 or 7 whatever is grasping at straws – the media took their cue from Obama, and now they are chatting it up. It looks desperate because it is. IF all the polling etc…is supposed to convince the members in the house to vote for it, because it’s so popular with the public. Good luck with that White House, those folks don’t trust the LSM to report the weather correctly with out spinning it.

The U.S. Senate really needs refreshed, we need new blood. More folks like Rubio. He was a good start, but he needs some company, more Senators just like him. We have an aging Senate population 42 of them are of the age or over the age of federal retirement (65) That’s 42 out of 100, almost half. We have 3 that are in their 80s. Only one of them is retiring next year. It appears they think their Senate seats are lifetime appointments. They get addicted to the Power, and forget what they were sent there for in the first place.

Dr Evil on July 20, 2011 at 9:46 AM

I WEEP FOR MY COUNTRY…

OmahaConservative on July 20, 2011 at 9:43 AM

I often feel this way too. As lame as this may seem, and when I feel that way….I seem to always be reminded of Sam from Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers. At the end where he gives his talk to Frodo.

I remember him saying…there’s some good in this world, and it’s worth fighting for. Well…there’s some good in this country…and it IS worth fighting for. :)

capejasmine on July 20, 2011 at 9:52 AM

I asked, why do we always compromise up instead of compromise down with regards to the debt? She just looked at me and then we talked about the weather…

Fallon on July 20, 2011 at 9:06 AM

Because the Dems and the press (I know, redundant) know if they hammer it long enough and loud enough normal people will do exactly like your friend, throw their hands up and say “whatever”.

Tim Zank on July 20, 2011 at 9:58 AM

If this poll was supposed to have some desired effect to make the gang of 6′s plan palatable. It’s having the opposite effect on me. I actually think I would prefer default. Let the system default and make them really cut, instead of all these friggin legislative tricks.

Dr Evil on July 20, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Obama and every one of those politicos on both sides of the isle are starting to crumble like a thin pillar of salt hit by a fire hose. You can’t believe them, you can’t trust them and they need to begin to suffer politically for their despicable, cowardly behavior.

rplat on July 20, 2011 at 10:17 AM

Just imagine what the poll numbers would be with an honest media.

Nethicus on July 20, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Just imagine what the poll numbers would be with an educated electorate.

John Deaux on July 20, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Republicans may also be losing the war of perception about who stands with whom in the debates over the deficit and the economy. A majority view the president as more committed to protecting the interests of the middle class and small businesses, while large majorities see Republicans as defending the economic interests of big corporations and Wall Street financial institutions.

WTF??? AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!

How can so many people in this country be so stupid?

mrsmwp on July 20, 2011 at 10:48 AM

I was at a dinner party last night – and people are openly talking about leaving the USA.

Incredible.

jake-the-goose on July 20, 2011 at 9:00 AM

It’s sad when people are just giving up like that.

Crux Australis on July 20, 2011 at 9:20 AM

Anyone with serious money is foolish to not think through an escape plan in case the D!ck gets his Cloward-Piven collapse. The rest of us are stuck. Maybe we’ll be sneaking into Canada with a backpack, swimming the Detroit river.

slickwillie2001 on July 20, 2011 at 10:48 AM

YYZ on July 20, 2011 at 9:04 AM

It depends on if they are doing something they are convinced is in the country’s best interest or just not doing anything. Obama has done nothing but ignore his leadership role. “No, that’s not right” or “That’s close” is the extent of his involvement. I bet he had more input on the art that was hung, I understand a lot of it is of him.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2011 at 11:12 AM