Jim Jordan to Harry Reid: “Gang of 234″ just showed you the way forward

posted at 4:10 pm on July 20, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) this morning said he’s waiting for House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to let him know what kind of debt limit deal would be able to pass the House, The Hill reports.

But Republican Study Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) has a message for Mr. Reid: The House showed the Senate the way forward last night, when it voted 234 to 190 to pass the RSC-initiated “Cut, Cap and Balance” legislation. The bill would cut spending by more than $100 billion in 2012, cap spending over the next decade and make a debt limit increase contingent on the dual passage and presentation to the states of a balanced budget amendment.

“In case Senator Reid didn’t notice, a bipartisan ‘Gang of 234’ just sent him the way forward,” Jordan said in a statement. “It’s called the Cut, Cap and Balance Act. This is the only plan that can fundamentally solve our debt problem, and it is waiting for Senator Reid to bring up on the Senate floor for an up-or-down vote. The House made its position in the debt debate crystal clear. It’s Cut, Cap and Balance.”

Reid, of course, favors Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s so-called backup plan, which would give President Obama the authority to request three separate debt limit increases to eventually arrive at the $2.4 trillion increase under debate right now. Theoretically, this plan leaves Obama alone accountable for any increase in the debt limit — but it nets no gains in the present debate.

The “Cut, Cap and Balance” coalition — a group of hundreds of non-profit political organizations, in addition to members of Congress who have pledged not to vote for a debt ceiling increase unless Congress passes CCB — cheekily calls the McConnell-Reid plan, “Cut, Run and Hide.”

The McConnell plan has some merit, but Jordan’s point is more, well, to the point. The House majority that passed “Cut, Cap and Balance” was a bipartisan majority. And CCB was crafted with the American people — the majority of whom supports cuts, caps and a balanced budget amendment (even though they’re also somewhat open to tax hikes) — in mind. What more does Reid need to at least allow the Senate version of CCB to see a vote? The president has promised to veto — but if the House and Senate handed him the Cut, Cap and Balance deal to increase the debt ceiling, the American people could at least see whether he means what he’s said about the imperative nature of a debt limit increase.


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“The gang of 234.”

I like that.

Akzed on July 20, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Bing.

Jaibones on July 20, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Well it’s about time that the GOP stood up and made their voices heard. Way to hold the line Congressman Jordan

hawkman on July 20, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Thank the GOP House which has shown those old fossels in the Senate that the GOP still has teeth.

William Amos on July 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM

What is it with these feisty GOP members? It’s kind of scary in a very odd way.

SouthernGent on July 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM

I saw this guy on Fox a few days ago with Bret Baier. I like this guy.

jawkneemusic on July 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM

“In case Sen. Reid didn’t notice, a bipartisan ‘Gang of 234′ just sent him the way forward. It’s called the ‘Cut, Cap, and Balance Act,’ ” Jordan said in a statement.

I love the ‘Gang of 234′!

INC on July 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Akzed on July 20, 2011 at 4:14 PM

I do too. And no mysteries and nothing behind closed doors.

The Senate–for the sake of watching those on the bubble for 2012–should be required to vote on this.

BuckeyeSam on July 20, 2011 at 4:18 PM

The last time the House GOP promised $100B in cuts, they delivered $25B in cuts. Maybe. No one’s really sure.

But nothing like that will ever happen again.

Bugler on July 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM

I heard that Moodys says that McConnells plan doesn’t do the trick and the Gang of Six is an unwritten pipe dream, have the chimed in on CCB?

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

“The gang of 234.”

Plus 150 million voters

Kini on July 20, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Bipartisan!!!!11!!

But… but… I was told it was only racist Tea Party types.

faraway on July 20, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Is anyone else getting a tar-and-feathers vibe from many in the House GOP?

Will this be the Howard Beale moment for the House GOP?

BuckeyeSam on July 20, 2011 at 4:22 PM

I’ll see your 6 and raise you 234…234 ain’t no bluff…

right2bright on July 20, 2011 at 4:24 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

that’s five times the number of republicans that voted for obamacare (Joe Cao, R-LA) that the democrats subsequently called “bipartisan” IIRC.

ted c on July 20, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Me likey Jordan :-)

Gang of 234

Excellent

cmsinaz on July 20, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Reid is an unmitigated fool but one must remember he was elected by his left wing contemporaries and obviously represents their politics and values. The bottom line is they’re all a bunch of destructive jackasses.

rplat on July 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Gang of 234 – has a nice ring to it.

gophergirl on July 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Have you considered some of those claims of bipartisianship between Obama’s inauguration and the midterms? Hell, the Dems claimed bipartisan support when they had only the vote of that Cao clown from LA.

BuckeyeSam on July 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Using liberal definitions, it’s not just bi-partisan, it is overwhelmingly bi-partisan…

right2bright on July 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM

…cheekily calls the McConnell-Reid plan, “Cut, Run and Hide.”

True dat.

slickwillie2001 on July 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM

With a couple exceptions, the “old conservative bulls” in the senate only know the “old Republican way”, the Rodney King way––”why can’t we just all get along?”And get taken to the cleaners. We need a younger gutsier bunch of senators like some of those freshmen in the House.

cartooner on July 20, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Let me know when this is being reported by ABC, CBS, NBC …and any and all ‘local’ news networks.
Until then…it didn’t happen.
I’m just sayin’

bridgetown on July 20, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Jordan is the kind of person to replace Boehner

georgealbert on July 20, 2011 at 4:32 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”
That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?
Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Considering that Dems have called a bill “bipartisan” with only Scott Brown and Snowe on their side, having 5 Dems vote for CCB is almost like having unanimoous consensus. :)

ptcamn on July 20, 2011 at 4:32 PM

only 100billion in cuts? Weren’t trillions in cuts being floated?

joeindc44 on July 20, 2011 at 4:34 PM

People’s House tells members of the Club they need to get their act together and vote.

txmomof6 on July 20, 2011 at 4:38 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Hey lady, I had a snappy reply but I see at least five other people beat me to it. What else ya got?

DanMan on July 20, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Reid, of course, favors Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s so-called backup plan, which would give President Obama the authority to request three separate debt limit increases to eventually arrive at the $2.4 trillion increase under debate right now.

/Facepalm

HondaV65 on July 20, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Cantor and Boehner are meeting now with Obama, lets hope they explain the power of the Gang of 234. Not holding much hope.

txmomof6 on July 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Cantor and Boehner are meeting now with Obama, lets hope they explain the power of the Gang of 234. Not holding much hope.

txmomof6 on July 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

heh.

So, eric, you virginia hick! You called my bluff and I told you not to…Well then, I am still going on vacation, dammit./BHO

ted c on July 20, 2011 at 4:42 PM

In other words…

… screw around all you want Harry Reid. You were sent a bill from the House.

If you don’t bring it up for a vote…

… NOTHING ELSE, NOTHING, NOT A SINGLE THING IS GOING TO PASS THE HOUSE!!!

Seven Percent Solution on July 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Using liberal definitions, it’s not just bi-partisan, it is overwhelmingly bi-partisan…

right2bright on July 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Every vote/bill against the Obama agenda has been bipartisan, except for when the Senate voted down his stupid budget and that time it was unanimous.

txhsmom on July 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Ask Nancy Pelosi.

At least they didn’t attempt Louise Slaughter’s “deem and pass.”

Put that into your pipe and smoke it, Tommy.

onlineanalyst on July 20, 2011 at 4:44 PM

Yes, absolutely, the presence of 5 (five) democratics on the side of this bill makes this a ‘compromise’ and a ‘bipartisan’ bill. This is exactly what little Bammie wants and what the American people are asking for in the polls that the old media deluge us with.

slickwillie2001 on July 20, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Debt By a Thousand Cuts

faraway on July 20, 2011 at 4:46 PM

The McConnell plan has some merit,

yeah right…in a make believe world!

winston on July 20, 2011 at 4:47 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Hey lady, I had a snappy reply but I see at least five other people beat me to it. What else ya got?

DanMan on July 20, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Beuller? Beuller?

Crickets as usual!

bluemarlin on July 20, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Jordan was just on with Stuart Varney and he is NOT backing down. Excellent!

Naturally Curly on July 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Jim Jordan was awesome on Cavuto’s show! Stuart Varney was not. I hope Cavuto’s health is OK….

FloatingRock on July 20, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Medved had a very calm Paul Ryan on for an extended interview. We’re fine.

DanMan on July 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Oh… yes….. MANDATE weighting, no, really!

Cut, Run, and Hide
Starring Moe, Larry and, Harry Jo

golfmann on July 20, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Capping all-time high spendings levels for the next decade is the only way to solve the problem?

Cutting $100 billion in 2012 when even the White House projects that year’s deficit to be $1.1 trillion?

Really?

Am I the only one thinking that GOP isn’t serious about reducing the size of government?

landshark on July 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

McConnell needs to muster the Republicans behind Cut, Cap and Balance or resign from leadership.

FloatingRock on July 20, 2011 at 4:57 PM

O/T but Korbe’s Bachmann thread is buried:

LINK to NRO Corner where they’ve just posted a letter Bachmann’s physician wrote describing her condition and treatment.

It confirms that these are infrequent headaches requiring as-needed very standard meds. Nothing daily. Nothing extraordinary. No underlying physical (neurological) problems of concern.

Can we drop this tedious attack on Bachmann now?

Y-not on July 20, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Using liberal definitions, it’s not just bi-partisan, it is overwhelmingly bi-partisan…

right2bright on July 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM

TS walked right into the various retorts.

INC on July 20, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Coburn needs to quit the Gang of 6, again, but since he’s a Lame Duck maybe he won’t. At least he could make his change of parties official and stop peeing in the Republican pool.

FloatingRock on July 20, 2011 at 5:04 PM

“In case Senator Reid didn’t notice, a bipartisan ‘Gang of 234’ just sent him the way forward,” Jordan said in a statement. It’s called the Cut, Cap and Balance Act.

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Nice backhand…
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RalphyBoy on July 20, 2011 at 5:12 PM

The House majority that passed “Cut, Cap and Balance” was a bipartisan majority. And CCB was crafted with the American people — the majority of whom supports cuts, caps and a balanced budget amendment (even though they’re also somewhat open to tax hikes) — in mind. What more does Reid need to at least allow the Senate version of CCB to see a vote?

Few in the U.S. need any more proof that Reid is a petty dictator, not a Majority Leader. Let him gasp at the podium all he wants, he’s got little support any longer.

Lourdes on July 20, 2011 at 5:13 PM

McConnell needs to muster the Republicans behind Cut, Cap and Balance or resign from leadership.

FloatingRock on July 20, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Yes, I agree.

Lourdes on July 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Hi Cindy, Haven’t read all this thread yet, but that is what I heard about Moody’s. In addition, the Dems are now against McConnell’s plan. This was in the other thread, which I’ll link to in a minute. I think the W.H. & the Dems are all about the Gang of 6(7)plan as soon as they finish writing it, LOL

bluefox on July 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM

What is it with these feisty GOP members? It’s kind of scary refreshing in a very odd good way.

SouthernGent on July 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM

FIFY.

TheRightMan on July 20, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Let’s see. Obama wants and probably will get authority to borrow and then probably spend 2,400 Billion. This is on top of spending a similar amount from tax revenues. And the House Reps are trumpeting a tiny cut of 100 Billion next year? 3,800 Billion spending, 100 Billion cut.

That is a 2.6 % cut.

So a cancer of government spending is crippling our economy and the best we get (as a bargaining position?) is a tiny nick off the malignancy?

AshleyTKing on July 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Here is what was quoted on the other thread:
“Obama summons Democrats….”

House Democratic leaders are attacking Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) debt-ceiling fallback plan, characterizing it as a political ruse intended to scapegoat Democrats and taint them at the polls.
“I’m not a fan of the McConnell proposal,” Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Md.), the senior Democrat on the House Budget Committee, said Tuesday during a press briefing in the Capitol. “It’s designed to protect mostly Republican members of Congress from taking responsibility for votes that they’ve already made.”

That is why I think they are going with the Gang of 6(7) plan now.

bluefox on July 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Am I the only one thinking that GOP isn’t serious about reducing the size of government?

landshark on July 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Reading the thread backwards now: you are not alone.

AshleyTKing on July 20, 2011 at 5:23 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Did Tina claim is was bi-partisan? If you’re using them media/Democrat’s meaning of bi-partisan then you’re talking about conservative/Republican capitulation.

It’s obviously that anything truly bi-partisan that compromises with Democrats will still end up ruining our country.

gwelf on July 20, 2011 at 5:25 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Which parts of the Democrat ‘plan’ should the Republicans have included – the ones that kill business growth even more or the ones that increase the debt to even higher levels?

gwelf on July 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM

I personally don’t care if the CCB vote in the House was bi-partisan or not, we won that battle!! The House represents the American People and it is about time our voice was heard.

And if the House stands their ground there is a good chance we’ll win this war too. I’m hoping the Senate Republicans will win it first. We don’t have a majority, it’s true, but we have more than 6(7)

bluefox on July 20, 2011 at 5:42 PM

McConnell needs to muster the Republicans behind Cut, Cap and Balance or resign from leadership.

FloatingRock on July 20, 2011 at 4:57 PM

McConnell and Boehner should never have been put back into the leadership positions. They blew it the first time around and yet, they were put back in with the same old play book which always seems to be, “they win, we lose.”

Jvette on July 20, 2011 at 5:59 PM

$100 billion? WTF?? I hope that is from the 2008 budget and NOT what has been the projection of $3.7 trillion this year. If it is, then there are a whole lot of RINOs that are going to be added to the endangered seat list next year.

Sporty1946 on July 20, 2011 at 6:01 PM

188 Dems vote “no.” Five vote “yes.”

That’s your definition of bi-partisan support?

Tom_Shipley on July 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

that’s five times the number of republicans that voted for obamacare (Joe Cao, R-LA) that the democrats subsequently called “bipartisan” IIRC.

ted c on July 20, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Yeah, but that was, like, different…and stuff.

/TS

Left Coast Right Mind on July 20, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) this morning said he’s waiting for House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to let him know what kind of debt limit deal would be able to pass the House.

ANYONE but a senile old fool like Reid would already have taken the hint as to what would pass in the House.

Thanks Nevada!

GarandFan on July 20, 2011 at 6:56 PM

I have seen a slew of people hitting the media rounds talking down CCB and talking up Coburn’s stew. The Republicans need to get out in force on radio tv, billboards, magazines new paper editorials..the internet there needs to be a media blitz. CCB is alive and lingering in Harry Reid’s inbox awaiting his immediate attention because we know how dire raising the debt ceiling is to the Democrats/

It would help if they started by using the Republican candidates to sell the legislation. “Kick Off To American Prosperity” brought to you by the good people who gave you Ronald Reagan.

Dr Evil on July 20, 2011 at 7:13 PM

He looks like he could use a shot of Geritol. He’s been in the desert too long and has mummified.

Kissmygrits on July 20, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Cut, Run, and Hide = almost as awesome as Gang of 234.

Yellowdog12 on July 20, 2011 at 8:33 PM

HC bipartisan = HISTORIC
CCB bipartisan = evil racist rethuglicans bullying America

LOVE the regressive logic

Ris4victory on July 21, 2011 at 7:31 AM

I just hope this crew doesnt lose their nerve. I used to be a big fan of McConnell, but he is a perfect example of what happens to those who stay in DC too long. They become all too willing to sacrifice principles to remain in office.

pgrossjr on July 21, 2011 at 8:04 AM

Gang of 234. Sorta makes one wonder who the heck the 6 think they are.

dogsoldier on July 21, 2011 at 8:57 AM