Wisconsin recall wars continue: Dems aim to ensure an ideal date for Walker recall election

posted at 8:45 am on July 19, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Today marks the first of nine summer recall elections related to the passage of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s controversial bill to limit collective bargaining and to require public employees to pay more into their health and pension plans. Three Democrat senators and six Republican senators face a Wisconsin voting public that wants a second say about them. Nor will the efforts to recall Wisconsin legislators end with state senators. Democrats have vowed to recall Walker, as well.

But the attempt to oust the steadfast Badger State executive demands high Democratic turnout and low GOP participation in the special election — and Democrats are already worried that, if they start collecting signatures for Walker’s recall in the fall, the recall election itself will fall on the same day as the GOP presidential primary next spring when GOP turnout would be especially high. The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent explains:

Leading Wisconsin Dems are leaning towards a plan to ensure that the recall election against Walker is held on the same day as the November general election in 2012. This would ensure maximum turnout among Dems in the state, making Walker’s recall more likely, and provide a big boost in grassroots energy that could help Obama win a key swing state.

But Graeme Zielinski, a spokesman for Wisconsin Dems, tells me that party members have picked up private scuttlebutt from Republicans that they have another scheme in mind — to ensure that the recall election is held on the same day in April as the GOP presidential primary.

Here’s the situation, in a nutshell: The date of the recall depends on when signature gathering for the election starts. If it starts this fall, just after the recalls against state senators wrap up, activists will have 60 days to collect the required signatures. If they succeed by the end of the year, Wisconsin officials very well may schedule the Walker recall to coincide with the next big statewide election: The GOP primary.

Some local activists on the Dem side want to begin collecting signatures for Walker’s recall just after the current elections conclude, in order to build on their momentum. But some top Dems worry that this will play into the hands of Republicans who want this timeline. What’s more, Dems expect Republicans to try to encourage this outcome by launching their own dirty-trick drives to collect signatures for Walker ’s recall on this timeline, in order to force the earlier date.

It’s interesting that Sargent — who has followed the Wisconsin story closely and written extensively about the Republicans’ “dirty tricks” in the recall elections — manages to spin this in favor of the Democrats, as though Democrats, not Republicans, have shown respect for the electoral process throughout the entire controversy. But Democrats started the movement to recall rightfully elected senators in the first place, betraying an unseemly impatience to thwart Walker’s transparent administration (everything he’s done, he said he would do during his campaign!) and to enact a union agenda. After all, all nine recalled state senators would have stood for reelection eventually, just as Walker would have.

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing. But it’s not at all clear that that’s the case from Sargent’s article. What is clear is that Democrats are strategizing about this in a way that shows little respect for the voters themselves, worrying more about outcomes than about giving the public a chance to speak through the special election.

The maneuvering needs to stop. At some point, party (and union!) leaders have to accept what Wisconsin voters decide. They should have accepted it in the first place, with the initial election of Walker and a Republican majority in the Senate. But if they insist on special elections, then let the special elections just take place as “ordinarily” as a “special” election can.


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At some point, party (and union!) leaders have to accept what Wisconsin voters decide.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Yer killin’ me here.

Rational Thought on July 19, 2011 at 8:50 AM

I’m just surprised that the Democrats aren’t trying to schedule the recall vote for Christmas Day, when only the secular crowd will have nothing else better to do than go to the polls.

jon1979 on July 19, 2011 at 8:51 AM

Not seeing anything wrong with what the Republicans are doing.

The Democrats started this – we’re just playing by their rules in their sandbox.

gophergirl on July 19, 2011 at 8:51 AM

The Reds have infested that state.

wheelgun on July 19, 2011 at 8:54 AM

Why would they schedule it during the GOP primary? Wouldn’t the ensure high Republican turnout? And Election Day 2012 is no guarantee to work either. Sure, Dem turnout will be high that day, but who’s to say it won’t be even more intense amongst the GOP? You think they won’t be itching to vote in order to get rid of Barry?

Doughboy on July 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM

So it’s a dirty trick to counter the Democrats dirty trick?

How the Democrats can continue to stake out the immoral swamp land and call it the Moral High Ground is beyond me.

The Rock on July 19, 2011 at 8:58 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing.

Huh? What’s wrong with trying to win?!

Is there anything illegal about this?

You’re highly disappointed that Republicans have a strategy to win elections that the Democrats have foisted on the state simply because they lost on an issue?

Akzed on July 19, 2011 at 8:59 AM

The recall process cannot begin until Walker has been in office for one year. They cannot file papers, or even begin collecting signatures until January 2012.

pablo5108 on July 19, 2011 at 8:59 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing.

What? It’d be disappointing if they didn’t do exactly that. It’s not a “dirty trick”, it’s just how the state has chosen to handle recall elections. If delaying signature collection is a valid tactic then surely not delaying them can’t be “dirty”.

The Democrat’s entire recall strategy has been built around gaming the vote to minimize the input of ordinary voters, who didn’t want the recalls in the first place, and maximize the influence of the coordinated union voting blocs.

GalosGann on July 19, 2011 at 9:03 AM

Recalls should be for serious crimes or dereliction of duty. Not liking a political decision or vote isn’t necessarily the basis for a recall (unless you’re voting to send Belgians to work camps or something heinous like that).

mankai on July 19, 2011 at 9:03 AM

The Reds have infested that state.

wheelgun on July 19, 2011 at 8:54 AM

They’ve been there for a long time:

By the 1930s, when depression and unemployment dominated American public life, the assumptions of the Wisconsin Progressives had penetrated deeply into national politics. Much of Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal legislation was drafted by Wisconsin citizens, such as Edwin Witte (author of the 1935 Social Security act), who had been trained by Progressive Wisconsin economics professor John R. Commons. In fact, the momentum of La Follette and his allies rippled down through the decades into John Kennedy’s “New Frontier” and Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” programs.

That’s one of the reasons why they’re becoming unhinged as Walker turns the state around. On a larger scale, the outright long-term failures of Democrats and Progressive Republicans must sting as well.

The Progressive ideology is a failed ideology. The endgame is people rioting in the streets for “birthright entitlements.” See: Europe, etc.

visions on July 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing.

Not sure why you think so. All they need to do is to launch the petition & then put no effort into it — the Dems will handle that just fine. Even though the press would spin it as “dirty tricks”, beating the Dems at their own game would be encouraging, not disappointing.

KS Rex on July 19, 2011 at 9:05 AM

The only voter decision liberals approve is when the voters side with them.

search4truth on July 19, 2011 at 9:06 AM

Will Wisconsin voters have to go to Illinois to vote in the recall elections of the Democrats?

NotCoach on July 19, 2011 at 9:10 AM

I wasn’t aware that there is any “high ground” in Wisconsin.

williars on July 19, 2011 at 9:12 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing.

I don’t think this is disappointing in the least. If the Dems want to play games with the electorate then they should be forced to do so in a manner that is most advantageous to the GOP.

By the way, one could easily argue that by working to ensure the recall elections falls on the same day as the GOP primary actually saves the state money by not having yet one other election on a different day. See, the GOP is once again looking out for the interest of the taxpayer!

glennbo on July 19, 2011 at 9:14 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing.

What IS disappointing is the GOP’s insistence on Marquis De Queensberry rules of engagement when the Democrats are coming at us from every angle. Such a maneuver, may be unsavory, but certainly not disappointing.

Jorge Bonilla on July 19, 2011 at 9:15 AM

What is clear is that Democrats are strategizing about this in a way that shows little respect for the voters themselves, worrying more about outcomes than about giving the public a chance to speak through the special election.

Democrats in Wisconsin have already told the nation what they think about the democratic process when they ran away like cowards in order to avoid a vote.

Murf76 on July 19, 2011 at 9:16 AM

You think they won’t be itching to vote in order to get rid of Barry?

Doughboy on July 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM

That depends on the voter. As we have seen, many people have claimed they will sit home or vote 3rd party if their candidate isn’t the GOP nominee.

csdeven on July 19, 2011 at 9:19 AM

This whole recall effort is pathetic. Democrats simply can’t respect any result where they’re not the victors, period.

changer1701 on July 19, 2011 at 9:19 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing.

Yeah, I’ll never vote Republican again if the Republicans don’t bend over and let the Democrats choose the manner in which they should get screwed.

Buddahpundit on July 19, 2011 at 9:20 AM

Gotta be something in them bratwursts up there that are affecting the brain cells or something.

pilamaye on July 19, 2011 at 9:20 AM

People = pawns in their power war game. If the citizens of that state don’t like Walker’s policies, then they should vote him out if they do then they should keep him but they should not let themselves be manipulated by union thugs or politicians.

Kissmygrits on July 19, 2011 at 9:21 AM

Dems aim to ensure an ideal date for Walker recall election

Now why on earth would they want to do something like this? Aren’t Walkers initiatives already beginning to bear fruit? Aren’t some school districts that were in the red, now in the black? Aren’t people who might otherwise have been fired because of budget shortfalls still working?

glennbo on July 19, 2011 at 9:21 AM

I’m just surprised that the Democrats aren’t trying to schedule the recall vote for Christmas Day, when only the secular crowd will have nothing else better to do than go to the polls.

jon1979 on July 19, 2011 at 8:51 AM

Won’t they be busy eating Chinese food and going to the movies that day?

Naturally Curly on July 19, 2011 at 9:23 AM

That depends on the voter. As we have seen, many people have claimed they will sit home or vote 3rd party if their candidate isn’t the GOP nominee.

csdeven on July 19, 2011 at 9:19 AM

Those people are full of….what’s the term, hot air? I don’t care if Mittens is the nominee. To sit 2012 out and potentially pave the way for Barry’s reelection is insane. At least with Romney, we have a pretty decent chance of an Obamacare repeal, a reduction in spending, and conservative Supreme Court justices.

Doughboy on July 19, 2011 at 9:26 AM

All I can say is that if they are spending money on this, that is money they are not sending to Obama.

txmomof6 on July 19, 2011 at 9:26 AM

When the communist party openly supports Obama and the democrats, there might be a problem.

GOOGLE: Does the communist party endorse Obama and the democrats……Scroll Down

volsense on July 19, 2011 at 9:28 AM

This is why the concept of recall elections is foolish to begin with. If you’re so hard up to have the ability to get rid of a guy in a shorter amount of time, make the terms shorter. I’m sure everyone would love one year terms for the Senators and two year terms for the Governors, right?

The perpetual election.

Red Cloud on July 19, 2011 at 9:29 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing. But it’s not at all clear that that’s the case from Sargent’s article. What is clear is that Democrats are strategizing about this in a way that shows little respect for the voters themselves, worrying more about outcomes than about giving the public a chance to speak through the special election.

I haven’t heard word one of that stragedy (not a typo) from the RPW. It would be extremely high-risk. Do consider that the Democrat Party of Wisconsin not only attempted to schedule a series of “rolling recalls” this summer by staggering the submission of their recall petitions, but they thwarted an attempt by the Government Accountability Board to get all 9 recalls on the same cycle.

As for the timing of any potential 2012 recall, the clock to the election actually begins when the signatures are turned in, not when the first petitions are circulated. Unless things are extended by a court (as they were for this summer’s Recall Madness), the Government Accountability Board has up to 31 days from the date they’re turned in (which is no later than 60 days after the start) to determine sufficiency, and then another 3 days after sufficiency is determined to order the election. That election (which, as we’ve found out, is a primary if more than one candidate per eligible party submits enough signatures, and only for the multiple candidates of said party or parties) is on the 6th Tuesday after the election is ordered, and if that is a primary, the general recall election is 4 Tuesdays after that.

With respect to a possible April 3 recall election date which would coincide with the Presidential primary (and non-partisan general elections), if there is a primary (which would happen on March 6), that election would need to be ordered between January 25 and January 31, which would mean the GAB would have at most 28 days to certify 540,208 signatures and then order the election. Given I don’t expect the Democrats to seize control of the Senate next month, I expect them to also attempt recalls of the other 11 Republican Senators and at least 11 Assembly members to try for the pre-November “clean sweep”, which would make this spring’s process look like a breeze.

For an April 3 recall primary (or a recall general with no primary), that election would need to be ordered between February 22 and February 28. That puts the earliest a recall petition could be filed as January 20.

Steve Eggleston on July 19, 2011 at 9:31 AM

It’s interesting inevitable that Sargent — who has followed the Wisconsin story closely and written extensively about the Republicans’ “dirty tricks” in the recall elections — manages to spin this in favor of the Democrats

FTFY

Jim Treacher on July 19, 2011 at 9:33 AM

At least with Romney, we have a pretty decent chance of an Obamacare repeal, a reduction in spending, and conservative Supreme Court justices.

Doughboy on July 19, 2011 at 9:26 AM

ROFLOL. At least you tell a better joke than Zero does.

chemman on July 19, 2011 at 9:38 AM

We are no longer a nation of laws. We are a nation of angry mobs.

NickDeringer on July 19, 2011 at 9:40 AM

They just seem to assume they will recall all these evil Republicans with no problem.

I think they are going to be sorry they ever started this.

golfmann on July 19, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Those people are full of….what’s the term, hot air? I don’t care if Mittens is the nominee. To sit 2012 out and potentially pave the way for Barry’s reelection is insane. At least with Romney, we have a pretty decent chance of an Obamacare repeal, a reduction in spending, and conservative Supreme Court justices.

Doughboy on July 19, 2011 at 9:26 AM

I totally agree. Repealing Obamacare and the Supreme court are the reasons I will vote for a GOP Limburger Cheese sandwich if it is the nominee!

csdeven on July 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM

The recall process cannot begin until Walker has been in office for one year. They cannot file papers, or even begin collecting signatures until January 2012.

pablo5108 on July 19, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Hate to break that illusion, but the GAB decided that 1 year in office applies to the first day they’ll accept a recall petition, not the first day it can be circulated.

Steve Eggleston on July 19, 2011 at 9:43 AM

…in order to build on their momentum.

…assumes that the momentum is favorable to Democrats. Think they’ll follow through if the recall effort turns out to be nothing-burger or, worse yet, a massive fail? We’ve been nodding approvingly about how red (well, purplish) Wisconsin is turning: is that all just Hot Air?

Also worrisome is that Wisconsin has an open primary. Having Walker’s recall election on the same day as the GOP primary would give the Dems the opportunity to vote in it to (a) recall Walker, and (b) ensure that he is NOT the Republican candidate in 2012. This could bring a lot of Dems to the pols, too, in some latest version of Operation Chaos.

ss396 on July 19, 2011 at 9:46 AM

I’m at a loss here. Why would the Republicans have a scheme to call their own very effective governor at all? This recall business is a great way to destroy the public vote and their involvement in the political system. I don’t mind being wrong but I don’t want to be second guess and living in a world of perpetual campaigning. Especially WI style elections.

Cindy Munford on July 19, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Also worrisome is that Wisconsin has an open primary. Having Walker’s recall election on the same day as the GOP primary would give the Dems the opportunity to vote in it to (a) recall Walker, and (b) ensure that he is NOT the Republican candidate in 2012. This could bring a lot of Dems to the pols, too, in some latest version of Operation Chaos.

ss396 on July 19, 2011 at 9:46 AM

It depends on what is actually on the ballot on April 3, and whether a recall partisan primary (or two, or three) and the Presidential primary are considered as one partisn primary election, two partisan primary elections, three, or four. The only “safety valve” against Operation Chaos (of which I am a 2008 veteran) in Wisconsin is that in a “normal” partisan primary election, one cannot vote in the Republican primary for one race on the ballot and the Democrat primary in the next.

Steve Eggleston on July 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM

I see a foot bullet in the making. The recall could actually pump up Republican turnout, and reverse-coattail Barry back to community organizing.

Greek Fire on July 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM

I’m at a loss here. Why would the Republicans have a scheme to call their own very effective governor at all? This recall business is a great way to destroy the public vote and their involvement in the political system. I don’t mind being wrong but I don’t want to be second guess and living in a world of perpetual campaigning. Especially WI style elections.

Cindy Munford on July 19, 2011 at 9:53 AM

The only explanation would be that, in Wisconsin, if a politician survives a recall election, he or she is immune to further recall for the remainder of his or her term.

That is why I am pissed that John Nygren <expletive deleted> up on his nomination petitions, giving himself a mere 40-signature margin which the GAB and the DPW more than covered (oh, and he and his wife didn’t sign the nomination petition, which had nothing else changed, would have put him on the ballot). Once Fleebagger Dave Hansen (D-Green Bay) beats David VanderLeest today, he’s safe until 2014.

Steve Eggleston on July 19, 2011 at 9:58 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing.

Were you dropped on the head as a child, Tina? That’s not “highly disappointing;” that’s highly intelligent and a welcome departure from the way Republicans usually allow themselves to be run roughshod over when it comes to logistical concerns about elections.

steebo77 on July 19, 2011 at 9:59 AM

“You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist.” ~ Indira Gandhi

Fallon on July 19, 2011 at 10:04 AM

Those people are full of….what’s the term, hot air? I don’t care if Mittens is the nominee. To sit 2012 out and potentially pave the way for Barry’s reelection is insane. At least with Romney, we have a pretty decent chance of an Obamacare repeal, a reduction in spending, and conservative Supreme Court justices.

Doughboy on July 19, 2011 at 9:26 AM

LOL @ Romney choosing a ‘Conservative’ SC justice.

Notorious GOP on July 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Steve Eggleston on July 19, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Well it’s nice to know something good comes from all this mess. I’m sure this is an unfair generalization but it seems like y’all sure like to squabble in WI!

Cindy Munford on July 19, 2011 at 10:15 AM

What concerns me most is if NONE, or a zero sum gain, of the recall elections don’t pan out as planned? Then what will the communist do? After the protests and threats, intimidation of elected officials that we saw just a few short months ago. Just how low will they go?

JimmyGee on July 19, 2011 at 10:17 AM

I don’t like the idea of having recall elections anyway. No re-dos. It undermines the democratic process. We don’t have this in Texas.

You get what you voted for, and and you can un-elect them next time they run, or if they commit a crime you can impeach them.

juliesa on July 19, 2011 at 10:18 AM

LOL @ Romney choosing a ‘Conservative’ SC justice.

Notorious GOP on July 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM

In his entire four years of elective office, did Romney ever once appoint a conservative judge? No.

steebo77 on July 19, 2011 at 10:32 AM

In his entire four years of elective office, did Romney ever once appoint a conservative judge? No.

steebo77 on July 19, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Not true. And in liberal Massachusetts, that was probably the best he could do. Romney certainly is not a grass roots conservative and a RINO, we know what Obama will do. If Romney is the guy, then he will be better than Obama.

csdeven on July 19, 2011 at 10:59 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing.

Were you dropped on the head as a child, Tina? That’s not “highly disappointing;” that’s highly intelligent and a welcome departure from the way Republicans usually allow themselves to be run roughshod over when it comes to logistical concerns about elections.

steebo77 on July 19, 2011 at 9:59 AM

Tina has really been a disappiontment since she started at HotAir. Looking at her picture and reading her posts I get the feeling she is incredibly naive. Tina if you are reading this you better understand that simple things like getting the COMPLETELY BOGUS recall to fall on the GOP primary is the about as untricky a trick in politics as you can get. You need to wake up to the fact that the Union thinks their GOTV can win them a special election (and they probably are right) and unless you want the voters who LEGITIMATELY came out on Nov 2010 to have to get dragged out to constantly defend thier vote on election day then ANYTHING that can be done to stop this recall abuse IS FAIR GAME!!!!

Conan on July 19, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Tina, you are doing a fine job! Wanting an honest political process is commendable. However, I think the GOP has no other choice than to use whatever tools available to counter the progressives. My fear is that once we start down this road, it will become a standard practice even when it isn’t necessary to counter the progressives.

csdeven on July 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM

We are no longer a nation of laws. We are a nation of angry mobs.
NickDeringer on July 19, 2011 at 9:40 AM

That is the true definition of a democracy. Majority (mob) rules.

Mirimichi on July 19, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Democrats never lose an election,they are always robbed or lost by dirty tricks or voter fraud. It’s amazing how they project themselves on Republicans and especially Conservatives.

flytier on July 19, 2011 at 11:18 AM

In my State only one recall per election cycle and the first group to file the papers is THE group.

So friends of the politian file the recall paperwork and fail to do a good job. The total signatures do not qualify. The politian stays in office.

barnone on July 19, 2011 at 11:23 AM

If it’s true Wisconsin Republicans would stoop so low as to initiate a drive for signatures to recall Walker just to ensure the election falls on the same day as the GOP primary, that’s highly disappointing.

Give me a break. This priggishness is why we keep losing. You do what you gotta do.

rrpjr on July 19, 2011 at 11:25 AM

I am mystified as to why the dems think the same people who voted in the Republicans in the first place won’t vote for them in the recall election. Must be the new math or something. Or have the dems already hidden those missing bags of ballots?

tcn on July 19, 2011 at 11:33 AM

Not true. And in liberal Massachusetts, that was probably the best he could do. Romney certainly is not a grass roots conservative and a RINO, we know what Obama will do. If Romney is the guy, then he will be better than Obama.

csdeven on July 19, 2011 at 10:59 AM

I wish this were true.

Because you know, a mushy conservative President has never given us a stimulus package, No Child Left Behind, TARP bank bailouts, Medicare expansion, and pushed for amnesty.

Assuming Romney would be better than Obama is about as naive as believing the dems will play fair in these Wisconsin recalls.

AUH2O on July 19, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Being strategic about election timing is neither disappointing nor a “dirty trick.” It’s just hardball politics by both sides with the Rs having the upper hand this time because their date is earlier.

edshepp on July 19, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Assuming Romney would be better than Obama is about as naive as believing the dems will play fair in these Wisconsin recalls.

AUH2O on July 19, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Romney nominated 9 conservative judges while governor of MA. He nominated 14 democrats and 13 unaffiliated. AND Romney was governor of a very blue state. He is lucky he got that many non-demrats nominated.

Go look at Obama’s record. Both Justices he nominated are far left progressive activists.

Now, given the choice between Romney and Obama, which is the better bet?

csdeven on July 19, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Romney nominated 9 conservative judges while governor of MA. He nominated 14 democrats and 13 unaffiliated. AND Romney was governor of a very blue state. He is lucky he got that many non-demrats nominated.

Go look at Obama’s record. Both Justices he nominated are far left progressive activists.

Now, given the choice between Romney and Obama, which is the better bet?

csdeven on July 19, 2011 at 12:22 PM

A lot of Hot Air commentators will blind themselves to anything you say right up until the general election when the choice is Romney or Obama. Some will even cut off their noses to spite their faces and vote “other” in swing states! It’s as bad as Palin or Bush derangement syndrome. Hopefully a plurality of the country wakes up and sees otherwise though, or we lose the Supreme Court and maybe the U.S. as we know it.

scotash on July 19, 2011 at 1:16 PM

I love ya, Tina, but you are a youngster. With a few more years will come a healthy amount of wisdom, and unfortunately, realism and cynicism.

stvnscott on July 19, 2011 at 1:19 PM

The maneuvering needs to stop. At some point, party (and union!) leaders have to accept what Wisconsin voters decide. They should have accepted it in the first place, with the initial election of Walker and a Republican majority in the Senate. But if they insist on special elections, then let the special elections just take place as “ordinarily” as a “special” election can.

Lefties are NOT: liberal, progressive, democratic, just, fair, erudite, good, enlightened.

They are impertinent thugs, only after ther own utopias and power. Period. All other is chicanery toward the submission onto their plantations. Too bad the fools fall for it. The travesty is that the media help them.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Will Wisconsin voters have to go to Illinois to vote in the recall elections of the Democrats?

NotCoach on July 19, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Yeah, no kidding.
Speaking of dirty tricks.

Democrats have no respect for anything; Laws, traditions, not even themselves.

Sterling Holobyte on July 19, 2011 at 1:45 PM

YES! To the flatland we go!(A-HO…..)

flackcatcher on July 19, 2011 at 1:55 PM

One aspect overlooked in this, is the number of officials that were appointed by the last Governor, Jim Doyle. Not only was Doyle a uber liberal, he was throughly corrupt to boot. As Governor, Scott Walker will replace the bulk of Doyle’s appointment within the next six months, wiping out a major part of the Madison mob, and taking out a strong section of the Lefty’s power in Wisconsin. It’s no wonder the Democrats are acting like they are. They know that in real terms, they are facing political death.(Which pleases me to no end.)

flackcatcher on July 19, 2011 at 2:14 PM

Hopefully a plurality of the country wakes up and sees otherwise though, or we lose the Supreme Court and maybe the U.S. as we know it.

scotash on July 19, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Yep. As it is, Obama just got two far left progressive traitors to the bench that will be undermining the constitution with their votes for the next 20 years or longer. Allowing Obama to put more progressives on the court doesn’t end the day he leaves office. It will be his legacy. And as we have seen, the court doesn’t reverse itself very often and once a progressive ruling is giving by the court, it is basically engraved in stone.

Those who want to stay home and make “statements” need to look at the long term destruction that will result from their statement of vanity.

csdeven on July 19, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Surprised by Sargent’s slant? Then you must NEVER have read a word of his drivel before.

He’s a leftist hack propagandist, PERIOD.

Adjoran on July 19, 2011 at 3:37 PM

If we know the recall is going forward, the GOP should collect the signatures and get the right date. Two can play this “sickening game”.

unclesmrgol on July 19, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Steve Eggleston on July 19, 2011 at 9:43 AM

Thank You . I thought that had been decided.I personaly don’t think it will go anywhere as 350,000 in 60 days is alot of signatures.

Gracelynn on July 19, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Once again the schools and unions display their hipocracy for the world to see. When have they ever fought so hard to hold a school levy election when there is high voter turn out?

stoutj734 on July 19, 2011 at 10:45 PM