WSJ to the defense

posted at 10:12 am on July 18, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

The lead editorial in today’s Wall Street Journal has drawn hoots of derision on Twitter from the Left since it first appeared last night, and it’s not hard to see why.  Drawing on the strategy of “the best defense is a good offense,” the WSJ attacks critics of the Murdoch empire for their “schadenfreude” over the expanding scandal of phone hacking by News International’s just-shuttered News of the World.  At times, their offense is inexpert at best:

At least three British investigations into phone-hacking and payments to police and others by the now-shuttered News of the World tabloid are underway, with 10 arrests so far. News Corp. and its executives have apologized profusely and are cooperating with authorities. Phone-hacking is illegal, and it is up to British authorities to enforce their laws. If Scotland Yard failed to do so adequately when the hacking was first uncovered several years ago, then that is more troubling than the hacking itself.

It is also worth noting the irony of so much moral outrage devoted to a single media company, when British tabloids have been known for decades for buying scoops and digging up dirt on the famous. Fleet Street in general has long had a well-earned global reputation for the blind-quote, single-sourced story that may or may not be true. The understandable outrage in this case stems from the hacking of a noncelebrity, the murder victim Milly Dowler.

The British politicians now bemoaning media influence over politics are also the same statesmen who have long coveted media support. The idea that the BBC and the Guardian newspaper aren’t attempting to influence public affairs, and don’t skew their coverage to do so, can’t stand a day’s scrutiny. The overnight turn toward righteous independence recalls an eternal truth: Never trust a politician.

It seems the editors could use a good editor themselves. Coming as it does at the very beginning of the editorial, this string of non-sequiturs makes it difficult to continue, as the eye-rolling it induces creates at least a momentary impediment to vision.  A bungled investigation is almost never as “troubling” as the undeniably criminal activity that took place, especially if (as it seems) the criminal activity was part of a conspiracy by a corporation for competitive advantage.  Buying scoops and single-sourced articles might be bad practice, but they’re not illegal.  Politicians do want good press coverage — which benefits the press at least as much as the politicians, by the way — and the media influences public affairs, but those aren’t equivalent to hacking into phones and computers to get stores, not morally or legally.

To paraphrase Jules in Pulp Fiction, that’s not just not in the same ballpark — it’s not even the same sport.

One one gets past the self-serving non-sequiturs, however, there is an actual argument to be made.  They offer an impassioned defense of Les Hinton, the Journal’s publisher and CEO, who resigned from his post, which deserves to be read on its own.  They then argue, very effectively, that the same people baying for Murdoch blood at the moment had just been cheering for Bradley Manning and Wikileaks for doing essentially the same thing and calling it “journalism.”  The only real difference is in target selection.

The Journal then scolds some of its competitors for demanding government action against News International, warning them that they may not like the precedent it would set:

The political mob has been quick to call for a criminal probe into whether News Corp. executives violated the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act with payments to British security or government officials in return for information used in news stories. Attorney General Eric Holder quickly obliged last week, without so much as a fare-thee-well to the First Amendment.

The foreign-bribery law has historically been enforced against companies attempting to obtain or retain government business. But U.S. officials have been attempting to extend their enforcement to include any payments that have nothing to do with foreign government procurement. This includes a case against a company that paid Haitian customs officials to let its goods pass through its notoriously inefficient docks, and the drug company Schering-Plough for contributions to a charitable foundation in Poland.

Applying this standard to British tabloids could turn payments made as part of traditional news-gathering into criminal acts. The Wall Street Journal doesn’t pay sources for information, but the practice is common elsewhere in the press, including in the U.S.

The last time the liberal press demanded a media prosecutor, it was to probe the late conservative columnist Robert Novak in pursuit of White House aide Scooter Libby. But the effort soon engulfed a reporter for the New York Times, which had led the posse to hang Novak and his sources. Do our media brethren really want to invite Congress and prosecutors to regulate how journalists gather the news?

Let the British continue their investigation into the hacking at NotW, and if evidence arises that Murdoch’s American media outlets engaged in the same conduct, then investigate that as well.  Demanding exotic prosecutions based on stretching statutes to the breaking point should threaten anyone working in the First Amendment sphere.  It’s too bad that the Journal didn’t just stick with that argument today, because it’s a valuable reminder that government regulation of media won’t solve any ills, but instead will introduce a lot of new and much more malignant problems.  Unfortunately, they buried the lede.

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Be very worried when the trash that passes for today’s left, wants to use this to go after those who broke no laws, such as Fox News or the WSJ.

MNHawk on July 18, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Hackgate
JournOlist
Rathergate
Wikileaks

All this scandal shows is that journalists are ripe for corruption and can be extremely underhanded and dishonest (SHOCK!), no matter who the man at the top of the ladder is.

Good Lt on July 18, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Whatever… the OLM will run the meme it wants, as long as it benefits their agenda…

Khun Joe on July 18, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Needless to say, they will damage or shut down Fox News if they can. The First Amendment be damned. These Fascist goons are playing for keeps.

If we don’t fight for our political lives now, then when?

petefrt on July 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM

MNHawk on July 18, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Yes, I am quite worried… that we’ll be out-thugged.

petefrt on July 18, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Let the British continue their investigation into the hacking at NotW, and if evidence arises that Murdoch’s American media outlets engaged in the same conduct, then investigate that as well

Sounds reasonable to me. But who wants to be reasonable when there’s a chance to smear Faux News!

forest on July 18, 2011 at 10:29 AM

The leftist media is under the assumption that people who don’t trust them would become active viewers/readers if FOX were to somehow disappear.

Sorry Charlie, I’ll use a HAM radio if necessary to get factual information before I will ever again trust the propaganda spewing from the Communists news organs.

Bishop on July 18, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Pot meet kettle. Let’s see…Dan Rather with forged documents at C-BS. NY Times with both plagiarizing and fabricating stories. Both the NYT and WaPo publishing leaked secret government documents. Oh yes…the conspiracy between many writers across many organizations to push the liberal agenda otherwise known as JournOlist.

I demand we prosecute Carlos Slim, Les Moonves and the chairpersons from all the papers involved with JournOlist. See how this works? What I said was just as stupid as what Holder and the media are doing now, but because Murdoch owns some conservative media outlets he must be prosecuted. Unless they have real evidence that Murdoch was involved…the rest of the media should STFU.

ReaganWasRight on July 18, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Once upon a time, Democrat operatives hacked into Newt Gingrich’s private cell phone conversation. It was passed on to leftist politicians and then passed on to the New York Times, who gleefully printed a transcript.

Sarah Palin e-mail hack anyone?

What’s the difference?

I do think the WSJ has a good point in this editorial about what other news outlets do.

MNHawk on July 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM

So, the _______ wants to use the power of government to punish or destroy their enemies.

A. Right = illegal

B. Left = legal

cartooner on July 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Why were they hacking these cell phones?

What was the story there?

BallisticBob on July 18, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Ethics, the long dead dinosaur of the education system.

Sometimes, folks(conservative or liberal), the crap on your shoe is your own. Deal with it.

Limerick on July 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM

What was done is inexcusable.
Those who made these decisions, must go to jail.

Its really that simple.

KMC1 on July 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM

I haven’t been paying attention much to this scandal as most of the controversy seems to be taking place overseas where the actual crime happened, but if the left wing media (pretty much anything not Newscorp) is trying to make an issue of this in America then the WSJ should fight back. They made some great points with Wikileaks and government involvement, but as Ed pointed out they also derailed their argument with too much emotion.

A crime was committed and people should pay the price. As long as they get the right people then all is well. If Eric Holder wants to make a witch hunt out of this, he will do nothing but distract Obama from his re-election campaign.

Speaking of Holder, is the media talking about the Fast and Furious operation at all? I get my news from the internet but I don’t think I’ve read many headlines from the MSM on this. People actually died there.

Daemonocracy on July 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM

This is tough for NewCorp organizations. If they don’t cover it they will be accused of burying it and when they do cover it, it’s pandering and covering their hindquarters. But it is interesting that the Left can’t equate it with Assange/Manning and company.

Cindy Munford on July 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM

His opponents are acting positively medieval in their zeal to destroy his media empire. So sometimes the only option is to gross out the mob. Therefore Murdoch should demand that all the arrested employees be marched to Tower Hill and for all to pray that the Axeman swings true. But only if they are willing to suffer the same fate.

meci on July 18, 2011 at 10:42 AM

This President has a Nixonian enemies list, its incredibly naive to think his minions don’t hack them every day.

What this scandal shows is how common hacking is.

Liberals world wide slather hate for Fox and every American Conservative, Limbaugh and Palin Especially, like hyenas the pop their jaws, give their cowardly yips and foam at the mouth when a lion shows up.

The left is willing to do anything to have their monopoly back.
And that after the fact Fox isn’t even biased Right, the howl would be unimaginable if a cable network did exist that came close to the bias of MSNBC, for Conservatives.

Speakup on July 18, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Speaking of Holder, is the media talking about the Fast and Furious operation at all? I get my news from the internet but I don’t think I’ve read many headlines from the MSM on this. People actually died there.

Daemonocracy on July 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Sharyll Atkisson of C-BS “News” broke that story 6 months ago, and she continued to file regular reports on it…until June 29th.

5 days later, the head of ATF testified in secret to Issa and his Committee, and the trail started to get too close to O’bama for C-BS’s liking.

Atkisson was immediately taken off the story she broke, and is now doing investigative reporting on a much more sinister story-some sort of scandal at a program started 50 years ago by President Eisenhower.

What I want to know is: did C-BS intentionally remove her from the story, or did she asked to be removed?

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2011 at 10:44 AM

What’s the difference?

The difference is that the New York Times itself didn’t hack Gingrich’s phone or Sarah Palin’s e-mail. News of the World did hack phones.

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM

I’m torn by this story as it develops. Obviously, the end game for democrats, the Obama Administration, and the Holder Justice Department would be to find a way to get Fox News off the air before the 2012 election really gets underway. On the one hand, that concerns me because I only watch Fox News, and they are the only network even attempting to hold the Obama Administration responsible for its growing record of malfeasance. On the other hand, I know I’m not alone in watching only Fox News, so I wonder if Holder and his fellow democrats are really stupid enough to pursue a government shutdown of their only opposition press. The blowback would be stunning. The conservative vote would be energized in unprecedented ways. And “Take Our Country Back” would suddenly make a lot of sense to a lot of folks sitting on the fence right now.

Rational Thought on July 18, 2011 at 10:50 AM

The difference is that the New York Times itself didn’t hack Gingrich’s phone or Sarah Palin’s e-mail. News of the World did hack phones.

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM

True.

Therefore, FOX News and any outlet Murdoch is involved with must be destroyed. Or something.

After all, that’s the nakedly obvious subtext of this whole charade, isn’t it?

Good Lt on July 18, 2011 at 10:51 AM

The whole scenario reads like a Steig Larrson novel. Must be some channeling going on…

smylatu on July 18, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Buying scoops and single-sourced articles might be bad practice, but they’re not illegal. – Ed

No they’re not Ed, but they’re widely frowned upon by the ‘broadsheet’ press, politicians and so on, and the point the WSJ was making in that line was about moral outrage, so I think their point is valid.

EnglishMike on July 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM

The leftist goal is to take down the networks they don’t control. That doesn’t make the audience switch. If Bill changed networks, his audience would follow. I admit never hearing of this news paper. i also know most newspapers are hurting.

seven on July 18, 2011 at 11:01 AM

There is no real outrage about the phone hacking. First, it was overseas and second, most people probably assume our tabloids do the same things. It is only about one thing. Trying to get Fox News off the air.

Southernblogger on July 18, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Also Murdoch owns a lot of media outlets. If this was his standard operating procedure, why does it seem like everything is contained to NOTW?

Southernblogger on July 18, 2011 at 11:09 AM

True.

Therefore, FOX News and any outlet Murdoch is involved with must be destroyed. Or something.

After all, that’s the nakedly obvious subtext of this whole charade, isn’t it?

Maybe for Media Matters, but not for me. News Corp. is a hugely diversified company, and right now, Fox News Channel is as complicit as The Simpsons. I just don’t think this should be swept under the rug or diminished because of what other media organizations do (that’s a deflection, not an excuse).

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 11:11 AM

I just don’t think this should be swept under the rug or diminished because of what other media organizations do (that’s a deflection, not an excuse).

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Nor do I, but let’s not pretend that the reason for this scandal being even mentioned in the US is simply becuase (DUN DUN DUN) RUPERT MURDOCH OWNS THAT PAPER (Scream of horror).

Good Lt on July 18, 2011 at 11:17 AM

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 11:11 AM

The rag is gone and people are rightly going to jail. That is not why the left is all of a sudden getting all righteous.They want FNC shut down.

Southernblogger on July 18, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Hmmm… Interesting. There are a lot of definitive statements here. Is the “investigation” even over? Have these folks been arrested, charged then released pending a trial? Did any of you read the media accounts at how guilty Casey Anthony was and how tight the Prosecutor’s case would be? *smh* So many definitive statements often prove to not be so definitive. In closing I’ll just say Jon Benet Ramsey and Richard Jewel. You guys all know EXACTLY the evidence Scotland Yard has on Murdoch and his minions. Oops. Or do you? ;)

Sultry Beauty on July 18, 2011 at 11:19 AM

The difference is that the New York Times itself didn’t hack Gingrich’s phone or Sarah Palin’s e-mail. News of the World did hack phones.

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM

The guy that hires someone else to off his wife is charged with murder, whether or not he actually pulls the trigger.

So the news orginization that hires out the dirty work, but profits from the deeds is any different?

MNHawk on July 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Is she really Finoa? (The redhead on the cellphone that has been in an unemployment line for 2 years.) Looks like her in this pix.

Dingbat63 on July 18, 2011 at 11:25 AM

How dare they criticize St. Assange!

Seriously, Murdoch should let loose their investigative resources in the UK to unearth instances when other papers used the very same tactics. Take a page from the prog bible, -it’s not the offense, it’s the hypocrisy.

slickwillie2001 on July 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM

You know how it is when sharks first sense blood in the water. The MSM were embarrassed by Palin email debaucle so they have moved on. Hope this frenzy is as toothless as the last one.

jakev on July 18, 2011 at 11:33 AM

I think personally the plan here is now getting to the point.
The EXTORTION comes next….
Want to make it go away?

Start playing ball and start now, otherwise you will be ruined, etc.

golfmann on July 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM

So the news orginization that hires out the dirty work, but profits from the deeds is any different?

Not quite sure what your point is. It was News of the World hired private investigators. If memory serves, the Times was given the Gingrich intercepts, but did not pay for or ask for them (not that that’s an excuse – they shouldn’t have published them). And didn’t some teenager hack into Palin’s e-mail?

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 11:42 AM

The ‘BBC Left’ is using hacking to get revenge

Left-wing politicians and broadcasters do not want to debate ideas but they do want to remove their opponents.

“But the power of the BBC – and its historical hatred for the “Murdoch empire” – is just one aspect of a larger battle which has now leapt across the Atlantic, where the target is not newspapers which can be legitimately charged with having committed unconscionable acts, but Fox News. Its offence is to have filled such a huge gap in the market for television news and current affairs that it has swept all before it. Its raucous Right-wing orientation is, in fact, matched by an equally raucous Left-wing equivalent in the cable news channel MSNBC, so why should anyone who believes in open and free debate among news providers object to this?”

“The problem is that Fox’s audience share is enormous, by far the largest of any cable news channel, whereas MSNBC’s is tiny, the smallest of any cable news channel. People are voting with their remotes for the kind of opinions they want to hear and the result is infuriating for the Left-liberal axis – and particularly for the Obama White House, which has made no secret of its desire to shut Fox News down.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/janetdaley/8642161/Phone-hacking-The-BBC-Left-is-using-hacking-to-get-revenge.html

Viator on July 18, 2011 at 11:43 AM

News Corp. is a hugely diversified company, and right now, Fox News Channel is as complicit as The Simpsons.

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Has FNC itself actually been accused of anything? No.

But in your world, they’re automatically suspect.

Want another shovel?

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2011 at 11:45 AM

this string of non-sequiturs makes it difficult to continue,

That you disagree with their assertions does not make them “non-sequiturs”. @@

VerbumSap on July 18, 2011 at 11:48 AM

If stupid editorials sank an argument, the world would be safely on a path of intelligent conservatism today.

I agree, WSJ would have done better to not come off like Murdoch’s excuser-in-chief. Frankly, it makes me angry that one of his outlets engaged in these shenanigans because it’s a frigging own goal in a present climate of horrendously partial, unfair government in the US.

Murdoch’s people should have known stuff like this wouldn’t be tolerated — by him – but apparently they didn’t. Now US authorities in the Obama administration, which cannot be trusted with anything, have an excuse to go out for blood.

Predictably, a phone hacking scandal involving a tabloid in the UK is getting much more play in the MSM than the Gunwalker scandal involving the US government shoveling guns at drug criminals. It was wrong of NOTW to hack people’s phones, but that simply pales in comparison to the literal body count in Mexico, the US, and now possibly Honduras racked up by Gunwalker.

J.E. Dyer on July 18, 2011 at 11:48 AM

“However, it now appears that Mr Brown secretly orchestrated — or at the very least supported — a campaign among Labour MPs to bring public attention to the phone hacking scandal.

The campaign was led by two former Labour ministers, Tom Watson and Chris Bryant, both also key figures in the 2006 so-called Balti-house plot which forced Tony Blair to announce the timing of his resignation.

On Monday, with political opinion virtually united against Mr Murdoch, Mr Brown finally decided to break cover and “go public” over his alleged long-held concerns over News International’s activities.

He spoke of his “tears” at allegations that his son’s medical records had been hacked by The Sun, at the time edited by Rebekah Brooks, and, for good measure, accused another Murdoch paper, The Sunday Times, of hacking his bank accounts.

However, the allegations quickly began to fall apart as The Sun produced its source for the story about his son’s health. The Sunday Times stood by its investigation which exposed a questionable deal involving Mr Brown’s flat and the former empire of Robert Maxwell — a clear matter of public interest.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8636187/Phone-hacking-two-years-in-the-plotting-Gordon-Brown-gets-hi

Viator on July 18, 2011 at 11:49 AM

And didn’t some teenager hack into Palin’s e-mail?

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 11:42 AM

No, he was 20 years old.

If memory serves, the Times was given the Gingrich intercepts, but did not pay for or ask for them (not that that’s an excuse – they shouldn’t have published them).

The Martins turned the tape over to Washington Democrat Baghdad Jim McDermott, a member of the House Ethics Committee, which was about to rule on Gingrich’s ethics violations. McDermott, in turn gave the tape to the New York Times and other newspapers. The New York Times then printed a transcript of the call’s participants discussing how Gingrich should respond to the Ethics Committee.

The Ethics Committee formally rebuked McDermott in 2006, writing he had “violated ethics rules by giving reporters access to an illegally taped telephone call involving Republican leaders a decade ago. Rep. McDermott’s secretive disclosures to the news media … risked undermining the ethics process” and that McDermott’s actions “were not consistent with the spirit of the committee.”

Of course, he’s still in office. What a country!

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2011 at 11:52 AM

To restate the obvious, the Left’s primary target is Fox News.

A sampling of what is taking place…directed at Murdoch, Murdoch’s family, Fox News and just about any and all activities and associations by all of those:

“Union pressure is nothing new, but what SEIU recommends is not limited to organizing drives and strikes. Rather, the pressure takes the form of a so-called corporate campaign, whereby the unionallies itself with outside third parties to raise intimidation to a new level.

SEIU’s manual details how “outside pressure can involve jeopardizing relationships between the employer and lenders, investors, stockholders, customers, clients, patients, tenants, politicians, or others on whom the employer depends for funds.” The union advises using legal and regulatory pressure to “threaten the employer with costly action by government agencies or the courts.”

It details the use of community groups to “damage an employer’s public image and ties with community leaders and organizations.” SEIU recommends going after company officials personally.”

From: “Labor’s new strategy: Intimidation for dummies — Pressure manual advocates bullying of employers and their families”

Lourdes on July 18, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Lourdes on July 18, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Re the SEIU tactical manual, I read that earlier today. We need stronger laws to protect non-greedy-union businesses and employees from these organized criminals. We need more prosecutors willing to take on these thugs via RICO statutes.

slickwillie2001 on July 18, 2011 at 12:00 PM

I demand we prosecute Carlos Slim, Les Moonves and the chairpersons from all the papers involved with JournOlist. See how this works? What I said was just as stupid as what Holder and the media are doing now, but because Murdoch owns some conservative media outlets he must be prosecuted. Unless they have real evidence that Murdoch was involved…the rest of the media should STFU.

ReaganWasRight on July 18, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Not so much as a peep from Holder as to the JourOlisters. Nor from nearly anyone except concerned citizens. No lawsuits resulted, no “boycotts” of the individuals nor their associated outlets who were/are responsible, no protests, no complaints, no “media outcry”…

Remember Walter Cronkite and his grandfatherly “guidance” nightly in most Americans’ homes delivering the CBS News for years? Upon his retirement, it managed to leak to the public that Cronkite was a Communist. I do not kid.

And even Nancy Pelosi, while Majority Leader of the House, despite that fact proven (Cronkite was a Communist), upon his death, called for some national honor for the guy or some sort of national grieving process, whatever.

Lourdes on July 18, 2011 at 12:00 PM

World Federalist Association – Walter Cronkite

…toward the end of this video of one of Cronkit’s banal speeches, he declares he’s “proud to sit at the lefthand of satan” after he promotes “world law” among other decrepit distortions of democracy.

Lourdes on July 18, 2011 at 12:09 PM

World Federalist Association – Walter Cronkite

…toward the end of this video of one of Cronkit’s banal speeches, he declares he’s “proud to sit at the lefthand of satan” after he promotes “world law” among other decrepit distortions of democracy.

Lourdes on July 18, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Correction: he says, “well, join me, I’m proud to sit here at the righthand of satan.”

Lourdes on July 18, 2011 at 12:10 PM

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Del covered the specifics, and my point was/is that the NY Times profited from illegality every bit as much as NOTW. Should it matter whether the NY Times directly engaged in the actual hacking, but fully benefited from the fruits of third parties’ labors?

NOTW hacks phone. NOTW published story to sell newspapers.

Third party hacks phone. NY Times gets tape. NY Times published story to sell newspapers.

In the end, what’s the difference? People at NOTW are rightly in legal trouble. Why not people at the NY Times?

MNHawk on July 18, 2011 at 12:12 PM

… and then there’s this.

Apparently the London police really, really failed to investigate thousands of pages of evidence they had on the phone hacking, years ago.

I didn’t realize it was that bad. WSJ is right: whatever’s been going on with the London police bears looking into.

J.E. Dyer on July 18, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Ed -

It isn’t just a “bungling” of the investigation that is alleged. We aren’t talking about mere incomptence. The allegation is that police at Scotland Yard accepted bribes to look the other way.

And yeah, THAT IS worse than the underlying crime, from a who-watches-the-watchman standpoint. Not so much as a matter of morality but as a matter of justice. Government has to be held to a higher standard. Corruption in government is worse than corruption in private affairs precisely because the government has a responsibility to ensure justice and the TOOLS given to it to do so (i.e. power).

And since the WSJ’s editorial isn’t a defense of the underlying actions (indeed, they state precisely the opposite)…uh, exactly how is pointing out the hypocrisy and hyperbole of News Corp’s critics a non sequitur. It seems to me the true non sequitur is employed by those who conflate the actions of a few (all that is in evidence to date) in a singular organ of massive multinational corporation to the entire news organism. D.GOOCH

DGOOCH on July 18, 2011 at 12:23 PM

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM

That’s true, but those who are outrageously outraged in this case but were cheering on “heroes” in the other two, should shut their mouths.

Esthier on July 18, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Should it matter whether the NY Times directly engaged in the actual hacking, but fully benefited from the fruits of third parties’ labors?

MNHawk on July 18, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Yes, it really should. Papers financially benefit from murders too, but it makes a huge difference if the murderer is on the payroll.

Now, I’d argue that it should be illegal to publish information that has been acquired illegally, but I still wouldn’t want that to be as severe a punishment as the act of stealing information.

Esthier on July 18, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Be sure to keep an eye on the Power Line blog this week-they are running excerpts of the new book by a UCLA professor on media bias called “Left Turn”.

Tim Groseclose is the Marvin Hoffenberg Professor of American Politics at UCLA. He holds joint appointments in the political science and economics departments.

Here is the intro

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/07/left-turn-an-introduction.php

When Professor Groseclose published his findings with Professor Jeff Milyo in 2002, all hell broke loose. It is a revealing story with few twists and turns as well as a happy ending. He tells the story in the introduction to the book.

-snip-

We posted the results on my website. The public relations office at UCLA, where I work as a professor of political science and economics, wrote a press release that summarized the results.

Then came the firestorm. Our study was denounced by hundreds, and maybe thousands, of left-wing blogs, including Media Matters, the Daily Kos, and the Huffington Post. At one point if you googled “crap UCLA study,” most of the first ten listings would refer to our study.

On January 5, 2006, I appeared on CSPAN’s Washington Journal to discuss the study. That morning, the Daily Kos, made me the focus of an “action alert,” which encouraged readers to call CSPAN and force me to “answer some tough questions” about my and Milyo’s “highly flawed study.”

-snip-

The most vicious response of all was by Eric Alterman, a writer at Media Matters. He insinuated that we were paid by rightwing think tanks to fudge our results. “Rigging the Numbers” was the title of his essay. The following were his concluding paragraphs:

“Check the fine print and one finds this study—naively touted as both objective and significant by the UCLA public affairs office and published, inexplicably, by the previously respected Quarterly Journal of Economics, edited at Harvard University’s Department of Economics, was the product of a significant investment by right-wing think tanks. In 2000-2001, Groseclose was a Hoover Institution national fellow, while Milyo has been granted $40,500 from the American Enterprise Institute; both were Heritage Foundation Salvatori fellows in 1997.

And yet despite its shockingly desultory intellectual underpinnings and almost comically obvious ideological imperatives, we can be certain we will hear about this study over and over for the next decade—from the very people who have written off normative knowledge and scientific research as some sort of liberal plot to subvert the values of Heartland America.

Really, you just can’t make these people up.”

At one level I can understand why so many leftwing strangers sent me angry emails, and why writers, like Eric Alterman at Media Matters, would say such false and vicious things about Milyo and me.

Read the whole thing, it’s fascinating!

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM

There is more coming out from The Daily Mail that this was not a single incident but there were more. They paid bribes and for them to go after the FBI for investigating after a NYC retired cop blew the whistle on the tabloid for wanting 9-11 phone numbers of those who died.

Then the Mail actually talked to the former owners of the Wall Street Journal who most said would never have sold to Murdoch if they knew any of this was going on. Since Murdoch bought the WSJ, only 12% of their stories are on the front page as he has used them to go after the NY Times.

With this hit piece there must be more to break. I found the last paragraph one of the few that made sense but as I said this was not an isolated incident we are talking about but much more.

Maybe Murdoch should have waited before going on the attack with this editorial and let it play out. Americans have a right to know if this sleezy tabloid also tried to do the same to 9-11 victims.

After the dirty trick Murdoch did to San Antonio newspapers when we lived in the area to own one buy the other and then put the first employees out of work, makes me leary of anything Murdoch is involved as he lied to the Light workers. One was my neighbor. What makes anyone think he is not lying now?

I don’t trust Murdoch any more than I trust Soros as both are out for themselves to make more money. They are both master manipulators and anyone who doesn’t see that has swallowed the Murdoch is conservataive koolaid.

PhiKapMom on July 18, 2011 at 1:05 PM

The MSM thinks by by going after Murdoch they can eliminate the network that doesn’t parrot their narrative. What are they going to do if Murdoch sells Fox News to the Koch brothers?

agmartin on July 18, 2011 at 1:12 PM

More on the developing story that the American Democrat Media finds of no importance, compared to the possibility of bringing down Faux News:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-cartel-guns-20110717,0,6972222.story

Congressional investigators probing the controversial “Fast and Furious” anti-gun-trafficking operation on the border with Mexico believe at least six Mexican drug cartel figures involved in gun smuggling also were paid FBI informants, officials said Saturday.

The investigators have asked the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration for details about the alleged informants, as well as why agents at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the Fast and Furious operation, were not told about them.

The development raises further doubts about the now-shuttered program, which was created in November 2009 in an effort to track guns across the border and unravel the cartels’ gun smuggling networks. The gun tracing largely failed, however, and hundreds of weapons purchased in U.S. shops later were found at crime scenes in Mexico.

Move along, folks, nothing to see here. Getting Murdoch and FNC are much more important than this Fake Scandal!

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2011 at 1:23 PM

The truth from Londonistan…

d1carter on July 18, 2011 at 1:33 PM

The ASSumption the liberals are coming at this from is flawed. To them, a corporation is a corporation, is a corporation. They see News Corp. as being run like McDonald’s–where the facilities, policies, and offerings to customers are expected to be uniform. A quality issue at one company-owned McDonald’s is very unlikely to be isolated to the single restaurant. McDonald’s trucks with bad meat and vegetables are not likely to only be going to one restaurant, it would be a systemic problem in the entire market in question.

Liberals believe (or rather, hope) that Murdoch properties have the same uniformity of policy, where ethics issues for individual properties are decided at such a high level that News of the World cannot be the only property so affected.

However, News Corp seems more run like a corporation of restaurant investors, who buy up restaurants when Mom and Pop want to retire. The corporation makes the investment, reaps the profits, and might help a small restaurant take advantage of economies of scale. The major decisions about policies, food, decor, and the like are made by the restaurant’s manager. A failure at a restaurant in this model is much more likely to be isolated to the one problem property. The manager should be held accountable, and anyone who should have been overseeing the manager to catch these lapses before they become a problem should be held accountable. But the problems at Luigi’s Pizzeria are unlikely to have anything to do with Das Shrimpin’ Boot, even if the same company owns both.

Find those who tapped the phones. Hold them, their managers, and the folks at News Corp who were in a realistic position to find and stop the tapping, accountable. Do this, and I will support such efforts 100 percent. Start a witch hunt in hopes of censoring conservative media, and watch the backlash.

Sekhmet on July 18, 2011 at 1:38 PM

What’s the difference?

The difference is that the New York Times itself didn’t hack Gingrich’s phone or Sarah Palin’s e-mail. News of the World did hack phones.

YYZ on July 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM

The NYT suffered no legal consequences nor calls for it to be destroyed when they published plagiarized content. And for journalism, plagiarism is about as offensive ethically as it gets, even lower than “hacking telephones”.

Though I don’t by a mile condone either, just saying, that the calls for the destruction of Murdoch, his family and the corporation they own a part of is far, far in excess of the one publication’s creepy deeds of hacking telephones.

Meanwhile, isn’t it CURIOUS that suddenly hacking telephones is “outrageous”? Many 4chans, blackhats, LOLs and Wiki’s non-plussed but an employee of a gossip magazine hacking telephones is now an international conspiracy of crime?

Lourdes on July 18, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Well said. That Holder’s hot and heavy against Murdoch while he and his boss are breezy-evasive on Fast and Furious and now also Castaway out of Florida, well, the media is obviously on some command to keep it hush-hush, except as to Murdoch.

Lourdes on July 18, 2011 at 2:00 PM

The most vicious response of all was by Eric Alterman, a writer at Media Matters.

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM

I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell ya’, shocked!

Lourdes on July 18, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Uh oh. News Of The World phone-hacking whistleblower reportedly found dead.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-world-sean-hoare

fastestslug on July 18, 2011 at 2:25 PM

fastestslug on July 18, 2011 at 2:25 PM

This isn’t going to go well.

BallisticBob on July 18, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Promote this.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM

This isn’t going to go well.

BallisticBob on July 18, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Tell me about it. Too much of a coincidence.

fastestslug on July 18, 2011 at 3:05 PM

Let the chips fall where they may. All the guilty need to be exposed and locked up. Find them in all the nests.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2011 at 3:11 PM

This isn’t going to go well.

BallisticBob on July 18, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Tell me about it. Too much of a coincidence.

fastestslug on July 18, 2011 at 3:05 PM

He had already been fired for other reasons, namely problems with “drink and drugs”.

Police are saying it does not appear to be suspicious (whatever that means).

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Police are saying it does not appear to be suspicious (whatever that means).

Del Dolemonte on July 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the police are ones who killed him. What a freaking mess.

fastestslug on July 18, 2011 at 5:06 PM