Oh my: Perry edges Obama in North Carolina poll

posted at 2:00 pm on July 18, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

When Barack Obama carried North Carolina in 2008, it foreshadowed the first Democratic winning majority in the popular vote since Jimmy Carter and a near-landslide win in the Electoral College.  The question in 2012 will be whether Obama can hold those gains.  Based on a new poll pitting the incumbent President against a man who hasn’t even entered the race, the answer appears to be no:

Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry leads Barack Obama 45 percent to 42 percent among North Carolina voters in a potential presidential matchup, according to a new poll released by the Civitas Institute.

Forty-five percent of voters said they are leaning towards or would vote for Gov. Rick Perry if the election for President of the United States was being held today and the candidates were Perry, the Republican, and Barack Obama, the Democrat.  Forty-two percent said they are leaning towards or would vote for Obama, and 9 percent said they are undecided.

“For the President to be trailing an unannounced candidate in a state he barely won in 2012 has to be concerning for the Obama team,” said Civitas Institute President Francis De Luca.  “If Obama is hoping to catch lightning again and win North Carolina, he is going to have to hope for a weaker opponent than Gov. Perry or a big bounce from having the Democratic National Convention here next year.”

Jim Geraghty notes that this is a poll of registered voters rather than likely voters.  Most pollsters won’t apply their formulations for identifying likely voters in the 2012 election for another year, though (Rasmussen being an exception).  The difference in this case doesn’t help Obama, since likely voters tend to skew more conservative as a general rule, and perhaps more so in traditionally conservative states like North Carolina.  The state went for its first Democrat in 32 years in 2008, with Obama only edging John McCain by 0.3% of the vote.

The poll sample will give the White House some heartburn as well.  It has a D+14 advantage, slightly better than the 2008 Democratic performance in North Carolina (11%) in what was a big-turnout election for Democrats.  Even with the assumption of an even better Democratic turnout, Obama has dropped significantly in standing — and against a man who isn’t even running at the moment.  Independents still favor Obama’s opponent by 20 points, nearly identical to 2008, but in this poll Perry gets 17% of Democrats, where McCain could only get 4% in 2008.

In fact, Obama only get 69% of Democrats, and only 60% to “definitely” commit to him — which portends a big, big problem among conservative Southern and perhaps Rust Belt and Midwestern Democrats.  If the GOP can offer the right candidate that can appeal to what used to be considered the Reagan Democrats across the aisle, Obama might find himself limited to the coasts, and out of a job in 2013.

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Run, Rick, run.

publiuspen on July 18, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Perry would win a lot of states against Obama. Any Republican(yes, even Palin) would win North Carolina.

Doughboy on July 18, 2011 at 2:05 PM

But… but..but …but Obama has done so much for the country like ordering someone else to get Osama..

And…………………………………………………………………………

Chip on July 18, 2011 at 2:05 PM

It’s the jobs stupid.

DrW on July 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Yeah baby!

gophergirl on July 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM

You could have Obama(D) V Satan(R), and Obummer wont carry NC again.

Southernblogger on July 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM

…traditionally conservative states like North Carolina.

We only just got our first Republican legistlature since reconstruction. No, NC is quite purple thank you.

Gus Bailey on July 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Run Perry Run

Southernblogger on July 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Uhm, let’s not get all excited about Obama losing NC. To me it’s a given he will lose NC, VA, IN and NH. I want to see polls of him losing Ohio, Florida, Nevada, etc.

angryed on July 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM

You could have Obama(D) V Satan(R), and Obummer wont carry NC again.

Southernblogger on July 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Well based on the way the media depicts Republicans, that’s exactly what the matchup will be in 2012.

Doughboy on July 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Is there a room he can storm out of, The Won doesn’t have to take this kind of sh!t.

Cindy Munford on July 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Obama out of work in 2013 would be great.

However, I think he would run in 2016 like Grover Cleveland did.

taney71 on July 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Please let this continue to be so. It seems that bho isn’t all that liked in gobs of states. Guess bho hasn’t been on the tube enough to tell those in NC how wonderful he is?
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letget on July 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

I find these sorts of polls to not make much sense. Rick Perry is at this point (except for in Texas) an unknown. The people in North Carolina or in any of 48 other states barely know who Rick Perry is, what he stands for, and also what his potential negatives are. The Democrat machine hasn’t had a chance yet (let alone his Republican primary opponents) to leak potentially damaging information. Everyone is already aware of Obama’s negatives. Once things are in full swing and the negatives and positives of the various candidates are known, then I’ll take polls like this seriously. In the meantime, this is much ado about nothing in my opinion.

FireDrake on July 18, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Obama might find himself limited to the coasts, and out of a job in 2013.

Pacific coast, Atlantic coast, and coast of Lake Michigan. Gulf coast, not so much.

peski on July 18, 2011 at 2:09 PM

This is exactly why I think him being a former Democrat is helpful. He can talk about how the Dems have drastically moved away from mainstream America and has become the party of graduate students and the liberal elite.

cpaulus on July 18, 2011 at 2:09 PM

However, I think he would run in 2016 like Grover Cleveland did.

taney71 on July 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

To what end? The only reason he got elected in the first place was by riding a unicorn made of Hope, Change, and History. What’s his message going to be in 2016? “I screwed up the country once already, gimme one more swing at it.”?

KingGold on July 18, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Oh my: Perry edges Obama in North Carolina poll

Um, what’s with the “Oh my”… if Perry didn’t beat Obama in North Carolina he would be in big trouble…

ninjapirate on July 18, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Gus Bailey on July 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Yeah, it’s been a few years since I lived there (born in the Mts.) but my memory is that NC tends to vote GOP for POTUS, many other Washington offices, but vote Dem for state & local govt. as a general trend. Shuler is in Congress as a (D) in my former district, but only got there as a “blue dog” with football name recognition.

However, I think Obama has shown himself as too far left to have much chance there in 2012 if the GOP can put up a good candidate.

cs89 on July 18, 2011 at 2:15 PM

They just haven’t heard about Perry’s massive window treatment scandal yet.

forest on July 18, 2011 at 2:18 PM

there are rumors in NC that obama is going to pick Kay Hagan as VP choice in attempt to carry NC seeing it as key to victory.

I don’t think he has a prayer unless minority vote comes out in same force as last time for him in NC AND the Conservative/Repub vote is suppressed again(stay home) or divided with a 3rd party candidate.

my guess is GOP carries NC by 5-10 pts

jp on July 18, 2011 at 2:19 PM

cs89 on July 18, 2011 at 2:15 PM

You’re not related to cs deven I hope.

Lanceman on July 18, 2011 at 2:19 PM

However, I think he would run in 2016 like Grover Cleveland did.

taney71 on July 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

This is why the GOP candidate must be a fighter. They must destroy Obama (politically) and the far left for a few election cycles.

faraway on July 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Perry will play well in the conservative breadbasket of Pennsylvania. Just beware Philly and its soccer Mom dominated burbs. And neither Palin nor Bachmann will find friendly territory here, either. Mitt? Too squishy to excite the hardcore conservatives.

Pennsylvania will be tough to snatch away from Barry. He’s idolized in Philly. This is the city whose first black mayor bombed and burned a neighborhood to the ground, and was re-elected.

PA Guy on July 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Um, what’s with the “Oh my”… if Perry didn’t beat Obama in North Carolina he would be in big trouble…

ninjapirate on July 18, 2011 at 2:12 PM

At this stage, not really. I think Obama has a bit of a name recognition edge on the guy who hasn’t even declared his candidacy yet. A sitting president should be winning polls like this by double digits.

forest on July 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM

Oh my! Someone in DC says that Rick Perry could win!

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Um, what’s with the “Oh my”… if Perry didn’t beat Obama in North Carolina he would be in big trouble…

ninjapirate on July 18, 2011 at 2:12 PM

North Carolina voted for Obama in 2008, has a Democratic governor, 7 of 13 House members are Democrats, and has a Democratic senator. It’s not really that red of a state any more.

amerpundit on July 18, 2011 at 2:23 PM

KingGold on July 18, 2011 at 2:11 PM

I can only agree with history part. People were definitely psyched about voting for a blank man to be POTUS. As for the rest, I think it was less about PBHO than Bush. I think that most people voted on the theory that we couldn’t do worse than W (and people didn’t distinguish between GOP McCain and W). Many of those now know how wrong they were.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:23 PM

If the GOP can offer the right candidate that can appeal to what used to be considered the Reagan Democrats across the aisle, Obama might find himself limited to the coasts, and out of a job in 2013.

Perry/Bachmann 2012. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel from my front porch.

NickDeringer on July 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

People were definitely psyched about voting for a blank man to be POTUS.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:23 PM

They got their wish

faraway on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

NickDeringer on July 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

You say that daily and I just don’t get it. Why in the world would a smart guy like Perry even consider hitching his rising star to a radioactive nobody like MB? I mean it isn’t even as though she could help him deliver her own state of MN.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

People were definitely psyched about voting for a blank man to be POTUS.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Well they got what they deserved … a blank man.

darwin on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Lanceman on July 18, 2011 at 2:19 PM

If I am, must be the black sheep of the family…

I’m a Palinista!

From Western NC, but moved around a lot- currently in Indiana (another state I don’t think Obama will carry in 2012!)

cs89 on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

They just haven’t heard about Perry’s massive window treatment scandal yet.

forest on July 18, 2011 at 2:18 PM

“No governor who spends $1,000 in taxpayer money for Neiman Marcus window coverings can call himself a conservative.”

What do you expect him to do?

Shop at Walmart?

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

faraway on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

LOL! That was a fortuitous (or Freudian) typo.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Perry/Bachmann 2012. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel from my front porch.

NickDeringer on July 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

It’s nice to dream, but when you think your dreams can become reality it gets dangerous. Let go Nick, let go.

darwin on July 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

However, I think he would run in 2016 like Grover Cleveland did.

taney71 on July 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Not if Obama gets beaten by 5 points or more. If you want to use the Cleveland example you have to remember that all three of his races were very close.

Harpoon on July 18, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Oh my? Why? Obama is losing to a generic Republican.

sheryl on July 18, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Hmmm. Could this mean that he really is gay?

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:28 PM

If some of the population wasn’t dependent on government for everything, democrats would never win.

darwin on July 18, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Crucio!! Hope it stings, Barry. :-)

CantCureStupid on July 18, 2011 at 2:30 PM

So why did they only poll Perry against Obama and not any of the actual GOP candidates who have already announced?

Mark1971 on July 18, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Shop at Walmart?

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

What’s wrong with shopping at WalMart?

I can see this thread heading south from my porch.

Knucklehead on July 18, 2011 at 2:31 PM

North Carolina voted for Obama in 2008, has a Democratic governor, 7 of 13 House members are Democrats, and has a Democratic senator. It’s not really that red of a state any more.

amerpundit on July 18, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Thanks to the State Legislature going GOP for like the 2nd time every in 2010, under the new veto-proof Congressional Districts being drawn up the GOP is going to gain about 2-3 seats in NC next year.

Traditionally its a Red state nationally, and Blue on State level but there was a major sea change on the State level in 2010. The Dem Governor is a lame duck 1 term in, has like 30% approvals

jp on July 18, 2011 at 2:31 PM

jp on July 18, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Bev just had a budget veto overridden recently. Shucks.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:32 PM

darwin on July 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Palin Fantasy Syndrome?

Palin came in 5th in the last 2 polls posted on Hot Air…behind Herman Cain. Apparently sane people think a guy with no elected office experience would be better POTUS than Sarah Palin.

Besides, Perry never resigned elected office.

NickDeringer on July 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Polls are racist.

Akzed on July 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Bah! CBS has a poll showing Obama ahead over every candidate. All they need to do is change the date.

John Deaux on July 18, 2011 at 2:34 PM

What do you expect him to do?

Shop at Walmart?

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Nah, I was joking.

Maybe the MSM would like him better if he took a 747 to NYC for date with his wife, or maybe if he stocked the Governor’s G-5 with $100,000 in booze.

forest on July 18, 2011 at 2:34 PM

Perry/Bachmann 2012. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel from my front porch.

NickDeringer on July 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Why on Earth would Perry pick Bachmann as his VP? He’s going to take her base away in the primary and in the national vote. Besides her social conservative base, she doesn’t offer much. If he’s taking a member of the House it’s most likely going to be Ryan or Pence. With Pence being the less risky choice due to the demagoguing of Ryan’s plan.

Bachmann adds nothing to a Perry ticket she won’t help in a swing state. For all intents and purposes she’s the Joe Biden of the Republican party. This is her version of his 1988 run.

cpaulus on July 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Perry will play well in the conservative breadbasket of Pennsylvania. Just beware Philly and its soccer Mom dominated burbs. And neither Palin nor Bachmann will find friendly territory here, either. Mitt? Too squishy to excite the hardcore conservatives.

Pennsylvania will be tough to snatch away from Barry. He’s idolized in Philly. This is the city whose first black mayor bombed and burned a neighborhood to the ground, and was re-elected.

PA Guy on July 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Hey, I live in one of those soccer-mom ‘burbs and Obama couldn’t get elected dogcatcher here now. Even Bobby Casey is running away from him. We elected three new Republican Congressmen in the Philly burbs last year, and both Corbett and Toomey carried our area handily. The economy still sucks around here, school districts are hurting, churches are closing. Nobody thnks it’s Bush’s fault anymore.

rockmom on July 18, 2011 at 2:38 PM

A PPP poll with similar partisan breakdown showed O leading Palin 50-42

Raisedbywolves on July 18, 2011 at 2:39 PM

NickDeringer on July 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Don’t get me wrong, I like Perry and I’m sure Sarah will appreciate his endorsement.

darwin on July 18, 2011 at 2:39 PM

cpaulus on July 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Then perhaps a castrated male would be available to be somebody’s running mate. I do believe Mitt would fit that role perfectly.

Really Right on July 18, 2011 at 2:41 PM

NickDeringer on July 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

You say that daily and I just don’t get it. Why in the world would a smart guy like Perry even consider hitching his rising star to a radioactive nobody like MB? I mean it isn’t even as though she could help him deliver her own state of MN.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

That may be in fact the only way he could ultimately win the general. Michelle Bachman is a strong campaigner and a good PR agent for the conservative cause. And… lack of executive experience didn’t stop Barack Dick Obama…because he is a strong PR agent for the liberal cause.

Having Palin as a vice presidential candidate AGAIN…
would be suicidal for Perry. Sorta like a brain freezing, air sucking gasp of remembering McCain/Palin all over again.

Besides that fact, that with Romney more financially situated with personal wealth and all, and plus with Michelle Bachman surging, Perry jumping in could actually hand the nomination to Mitt Romney.

Actually, come to think of it, the only way to guarantee that Romney doesn’t win the nomination with Perry in the race, would be if Rudy Guilanni jumps in, runs strong and pulls away/completely waters down the Romney RINO votes and allows a Perry (or Bachmann) to win the nomination.

Romney is a strong campaigner and has boucoo amounts of money to throw at his win, plus he wants it very badly and is not afraid to expose the records of candidates who stand in the way.

…just sayin’….this may add up to be why Perry is throwing out the “feeler flags”…

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:42 PM

I can’t believe it’s even that close. Well, yes, I can. When I left Raleigh I saw plates from Michigan, Californnia, New Jersey, and Wisconsin. It was like a plague of locusts or something.

SouthernGent on July 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM

and out of a job in 2013.

God, though might exist.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:42 PM

Nothing personal, but there’s not a sentence in that analysis that I could agree with.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Perry = Drano

darwin on July 18, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Yes, and the Dems are ever on the lookout for new victims and needy losers to help and protect.

Just producing an enviroment for jobs (the word Dems can’t spell — and boy, is that Freudian!) is not too important. Why, people can get government jobs like the first couple was telling everyone a few months ago. The fact that it clogs the pipes of commerce is lost on the left.

IlikedAUH2O on July 18, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Obama out of work in 2013 would be great.

However, I think he would run in 2016 like Grover Cleveland did.

taney71 on July 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Hopefully tomfoolery works just once. If it repeats itself, the joke is entirely deserved on the people and their progeny. Such stupidity would have to be punished, and harshly.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM

I can see this thread heading south from my porch.

Knucklehead on July 18, 2011 at 2:31 PM

How many dogs you got under that porch?

(grins)

cs89 on July 18, 2011 at 2:49 PM

SouthernGent on July 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM

when the RTP area is known as the best place to live…they come a running

:)

cmsinaz on July 18, 2011 at 2:52 PM

LOL! That was a fortuitous (or Freudian) typo.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

It was brilliant and should go into the annals of history.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2011 at 2:52 PM

–rockmom on July 18, 2011 at 2:38 PM

We also won back the state house with a 13 seat majority, but many of those wins were by 100-vote pluralities, and that was with an extremely depressed Dem base. These seats will be hard to hold when the Barry-Bots who stayed home in 2010, like the college students, come out in mass.

Gov. Corbett’s popularity tanked when he unveiled his austere budget, and these same suburban Republican legislators ran from it. They fear the soccer moms who fear shale drilling and cuts to even bloated schools.

RockMom, I hope you’re right. But I believe 2010 will be the high water mark.

PA Guy on July 18, 2011 at 2:53 PM

“Rick Perry is one tough guy. Don’t think I don’t admire that.”
- Paul Burka

This is a scary story. The Statesman reported yesterday that Governor Perry is removing Linus Wright, a former Dallas school superintendent, as chair of the board that oversees the $88 billion Teacher Retirement System and will replace him with a current board member who is also a member of Perry’s campaign finance team,

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 3:00 PM

They just haven’t heard about Perry’s massive window treatment scandal yet.

forest on July 18, 2011 at 2:18 PM

You mean when someone firebombed the governor’s mansion and the state rented similar quarters, which was not cheap.

Kermit on July 18, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Barring an October surprise of the Repub candidate, whomever that may be, Obama will lose big in 2012.

holygoat on July 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Perry + Rubio will be very strong in all toss up states, but creative class, socially liberal ones, eg CO, MN, OR, NH. Perry should be fine in PA, FL, NC, VA, IA, maybe WI. I don’t disagree that Romney would be safer electorally, but do we want him as President. It’ll be validating all the beltway, liberal DC Republicans want.

IR-MN on July 18, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Perry would win a lot of states against Obama. Any Republican(yes, even Palin) would win North Carolina.

Doughboy on July 18, 2011 at 2:05 PM

McCain couldn’t.

mankai on July 18, 2011 at 3:13 PM

I still remember ABC calling NC for Gore in 2000… early.

mankai on July 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM

It has a D+14 advantage, slightly better than the 2008 Democratic performance in North Carolina (11%) in what was a big-turnout election for Democrats.

Heh. A D+14 poll gives this nobody, unannounced candidate a 3 point lead over O’Bozo?

Jaibones on July 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM

My question is why would 42% still vote for Obambi? What the hell?

RedbonePro on July 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Oh my! Someone in DC says that Rick Perry could win!

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:22 PM

LOL! This is old and tired, not as scurrilous as the American Thinker article someone posted yesterday, but close. And what was that idiotic “analysis” (Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:42 PM) about? It makes no sense except it’s something supposedly against Perry. And then you link (Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 3:00 PM) to a 2009 story from Texas Monthly about nothing that has any bearing on Perry’s possible candidacy. Texas Monthly thinks everything Republicans do is scary.
Dude, between you and rightwingyahoo, y’all couldn’t pull one of Perry’s boots off.

cartooner on July 18, 2011 at 4:11 PM

RedbonePro on July 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Those people think spending has nothing to do with the Democrats. It was all Bush.

Europe was all other factors.

We need to take money from the rich for what we all need since they are not paying their fair share.

Got it?

IlikedAUH2O on July 18, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:42 PM

Nothing personal, but there’s not a sentence in that analysis that I could agree with.

MJBrutus on July 18, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Agree or disagree, there are other opinions and facts out there:

- Toll Roads and Trans Texas Corridor – Is it socialism, fascism or communism? Toll roads are gargantuan debt time bombs and a whopping tax on consumers. (2003)

Answer: It has increased Texas’ debt by 30 Billion just to subsidize Perry’s crony Toll Road scheme,
to wit, “Open Letter to Rick Perry:

2. Rein in the State’s ever-mounting debt. In just five years, the State of Texas has amassed a staggering $31 billion in road-related debt. For the first time in Texas’ history, the state budget is projected to spend more on debt service for roads than it will on new road construction.

[20] See Texas Transportation Department Going Into Debt To Pay For Road Work, Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Feb. 27, 2011 (“Unable to persuade lawmakers to raise gas taxes or vehicle registration fees, the Texas Department of Transportation is going deep into debt to build roads…”)

…Note, that the Gas Tax is continually being diverted for other purposes, year after year, with a Republican majority in control and with Perry at the helm, to try and plug the budget holes – this year: 2011, was just another prime example.

- continuing on…
• Business Margins Tax – backdoor state income tax (2006) National Federation of Independent Business agrees it is a disaster.

Note: NFIB calls Texas’ Business margin tax a ‘lose-lose’ situation:

NFIB is leading the charge to eliminate the harmful Texas margin tax and replace it with a more equitable form of taxation.”

……..(Google: NFIB Texas Business margin tax )

• HPV vaccine mandate – Attack on parental rights (2007)

• FLDS El Dorado raid – Religious Oppression, traumatizes 438 children and their parents; out of control Child Protective Services raid based on crank phone call (2008)

• Defeats Justice Steven Wayne Smith (a “Justice Bork” of Texas) – makes robo phone calls against most conservative Supreme Court judge in modern Texas history (2004)

• Vetoes Texas Eminent Domain Bill – taking your land for a toll road more important than signing property rights protection overwhelmingly passed by Legislature. (2007)
Then, to answer the outrage, he signs another eminent domain bill(s) to appease the grassroots that still have major loopholes in it – wouldn’t protect against a Kelo case abuse. (2009 & 2011)

• Signs Hate Crimes bill — Attack on free speech and creates thought crimes, includes sexual orientation as a class! (2001)

• Globalist – Perry hasn’t seen a one-way street “free trade” agreement he doesn’t like – is for the United Nations, NAFTA, CAFTA, Trans Texas Corridor, etc.,

Note that even Mitt Romney spoke about the unfairness of the “Free Trade” acts during the 2008 primaries and he would eat Perry alive in the debates, because truly I have the witness of many businesses who confirm that these “free trade” agreements are a one-way street and are patently unfair!

• Governor for NINE years, then reads about the 10th Amendment a few months ago. (2009)

• Supports No Child Left Behind Act and Dept. of Education (Hey, is the federal government running your local school in the Constitution? Fine with Rick Perry.)

• Endorsers RINO-liberal and gun grabber Rudy Guiliani for President – over Mike Huckabee (2008) – tells his good friend Mike Huckabee I love you like a brother, but you can’t win so I am going with gun grabber Rudy, he’s a sure thing!

• Token opposition to illegal immigration – probably because the illegals will be building all his toll roads! Opposes wall on Mexican border – supports tuition for undocumented workers’ kids.

• Does not stand up for elected State Board of Education every time it gets castrated by the liberals in the legislature (2000s). Throws crumbs to conservatives on SBOE, but when they really need him, hides under desk, sticks fingers in ears. (2009)

- Signed an anti-conservative (SBOE) State Board of Education gerrymandered redistricting plan that will destroy the conservative’s chance of getting re-elected – with a Republican super-majority, virtually guaranteeing that all the work that the conservative board did for restoring sanity to the school curriculum, will be reversed and destroyed!! (2011)

• Instituted state CHIP program!, a widely abused program and one more step to socialized medicine, more taxes and rationed health care. (Hey, is CHIP in the 10th Amendment?)

• Supports Sobriety Check Points! Unconstitutional trashing of YOUR 4th Amendment rights where everyone is pulled over with no probable cause and no reasonable suspicion. (Perry supported SB 298 bill) 2009

Texas Enterprise Fund – basically, Rick Perry’s slush fund, thus government choosing winners and losers, a corporate welfare system for politically connected insiders such as the failed Country Wide scheme, another WASTE of your tax dollars. Big Government + Big Business = Fascism – just like Obama’s cronyism..

• Supports whopping $3 Billion Cancer BONDS, the Lance Armstrong cancer tax – more taxing, borrowing and spending. (2007). For Texas borrowing money to go into the cancer research business, instead of getting out of the way and letting private business taking on the risk (and reward).

• Tries to intimidate FEMALE state trooper who pulls him over for speeding while he was lieutenant governor, telling her “Why don’t you just let us get on down the road?” as she was writing him a ticket.

• Tells a Houston tv reporter Ted Oberg “Adios, mofo.” (2005)

• Wants to use Texas Teacher and State Employee Retirement Money on risky TOLL ROADS! www(dot)texasmonthly(dot)com/blogs/burkablog/?p=4969 ing

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Mcguyver on July 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

What’s wrong with shopping at WalMart?

I can see this thread heading south from my porch.

Knucklehead on July 18, 2011 at 2:31 PM

I shop at Walmart-’course it makes sense being that that I work @ Walmart.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 18, 2011 at 5:06 PM

I can’t believe it’s even that close. Well, yes, I can. When I left Raleigh I saw plates from Michigan, Californnia, New Jersey, and Wisconsin. It was like a plague of locusts or something.

SouthernGent on July 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM

The ONLY Illinois plate I’ve seen in Lubbock WAS on our car-but we fixed that straight away. I’ve seen a few from CA. I hope they don’t plan on staying.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 18, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Woohoo! As much as I’m not surprised, this is still exhilarating.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on July 18, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Don’t get me wrong, I like Perry Sarah and I’m sure Sarah Perry will appreciate his her endorsement.

darwin on July 18, 2011 at 2:39 PM
FIFY.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 18, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Woohoo! As much as I’m not surprised, this is still exhilarating.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on July 18, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Run Rick Run!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 18, 2011 at 5:12 PM

I happily shop at Wal-Mart. It’s a great American success story of free enterprise that we need more of.

slickwillie2001 on July 18, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Don’t get me wrong, I know that Obama isn’t our real problem as much as those who think like him are.

Nonetheless, when the day ever comes when he is no longer President and we don’t have to say “Obama” every five seconds and look at his picture all over the place, I think I will be very happy.

Alana on July 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Hope and Change!

Pablo Snooze on July 18, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Looking at how skewed this poll was to favor Dems, it seems that in a fair poll, Perry might beat Obama with one hand tied behind his back?

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on July 18, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Alana on July 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM

This song makes me think of that glorious day, January 20th, 2013.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on July 18, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Perry can beat this little punk. Get ‘em, Rick Perry.

petefrt on July 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Love me some Walmart, and Rick is choice #1 thus far.
Bob Beckel , of The Five, hates Perry. That should be the Republicans big hint. Run Rick!

humdinger on July 18, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Uhm, let’s not get all excited about Obama losing NC. To me it’s a given he will lose NC, VA, IN and NH. I want to see polls of him losing Ohio, Florida, Nevada, etc.

angryed on July 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Exactly. The Republican candidate will NEED to win NC, VA, IN, and FL to stand a chance, although the many seniors in FL are probably not too thrilled about Obama cutting Medicare to “pay for” ObamaCare.

IMHO, the crucial states in the 2012 election will be OH, WI, and CO. Whoever wins two out of three wins the White House.

Steve Z on July 18, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Perry + Rubio will be very strong in all toss up states, but creative class, socially liberal ones, eg CO, MN, OR, NH.

Perry is by far the strongest GOP candidate so far, and Rubio is a great freshman Senator. But Perry needs a different running mate, since the VP needs to be a natural-born citizen, and Rubio is ineligible.

Steve Z on July 18, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Steve Z on July 18, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Rubio was born in Miami to LEGAL residents. He’s eligible.
Let it go.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 18, 2011 at 7:17 PM

I live in the triangle in NC and there are more liberals than you can shake a stick at. Add to that the poor eastern counties that border VA who always vote Dem, plus the libtard 20/30-something’s in the Charlotte metro area and I’m a little nervous about next year.

citrus on July 18, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Romney is going to collect the crossover Democrats in states with open primaries. Actually, I think Perry might collect a lot of them if he runs, but so far my money is on Romney collecting center Democrats.

crosspatch on July 18, 2011 at 10:28 PM