NPR pretty excited about new Voter ID laws

posted at 6:00 pm on July 18, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

NPR sets out to examine both sides of the debate regarding new voter ID laws going into effect this year around the country. And amazingly, they manage the feat after a fashion. At least to a point:

Voters going to the polls next year — and even some this year — will encounter a lot of new rules. Photo ID requirements and fewer options for early voting are among the biggest changes.

They’re part of a wave of new laws enacted by Republican-controlled legislatures this year. Supporters say the rules are needed to ensure honest elections.

But Democrats say it’s part of a concerted GOP campaign to suppress the vote. They say minorities, students, the poor and disabled — those most likely to vote Democratic — will be hurt the most.

Did you catch the second sentence of the second paragraph? The one that begins with, “supporters say…?” I sure hope so, because if you only read the story above the fold, that’s the last mention you’ll see of reasons to support such laws until you get to the final third of the article. In the intervening space, the piece swings out to Wisconsin where a spokesperson for One Wisconsin Now goes into great detail about how these laws are “obstacles” to voting by the usual class warriors and it’s all a massive plot to disenfranchise the poor… or something.

In the end, though, even NPR can’t help itself and points out that free ID cards are available to all lawful residents of legal age who wish to vote. (Though the aforementioned spokesperson jumps back in to claim that making it to the DMV to pick up the free card is still too great an obstacle for “many.”) But the highlight of the article comes by way of a quote from Tre Hargett, Tennessee secretary of state. Responding to allegations that the new requirements would “discourage voter turnout,” he responds:

“I think that nothing could disenfranchise an eligible voter more than finding out that ineligible voters are voting,” he says.

That one just may have to make it into the quotes of the day.

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But some perspective is in order: for people who do not have ready access to any identification, not being able to vote is the least of their problems. What’s more, requiring these folks get a valid government ID may bring them greater benefits than would accrue to them merely by being eligible to vote.

The Upside of Voter ID Initiatives.

visions on July 18, 2011 at 11:28 PM

Voters going to the polls next year — and even some this year — will encounter a lot of new rules. Photo ID requirements and fewer options for early voting are among the biggest changes.

WTF are they talking about? I’m in TN and I already had to show my photo ID before voting for years already.

Moesart on July 18, 2011 at 11:48 PM

I had no idea that minorities had such a hard time buying adult beverages. /sarc

gwelf on July 18, 2011 at 11:54 PM

I mean WTF?
Are the democrats saying minorities, students, the poor and disabled are idiots and can’t figure out how to get a photo ID … for free?
Are they also saying that minorities, students, the poor and disabled can’t get a drivers license, or that they don’t get loans, or buy anything on credit, or have any dealings that require them to prove who they are?
Are the democrats saying no minority, student, poor or disabled person has a photo ID of any kind?
darwin on July 18, 2011 at 6:09 PM

And they call us racist.

This is how liberals view “minorities” – helpless children who can’t take care of themselves.

gwelf on July 18, 2011 at 11:59 PM

I love crr6.

Requiring ID to vote is “disenfranchisement” but an ID to buy alcohol isn’t, nor is requiring me to have a license and insurance to drive a car. But this is just voting – no big deal. Not like driving a car. Also explain to me again how an ID is an onerous requirement but forcing me to buy health insurance isn’t?

gwelf on July 19, 2011 at 12:08 AM

I had no idea that minorities had such a hard time buying adult beverages/cold medicine/tobacco/paint/plane tickets/pr0n/some prescription meds/”marital aids”/hotel rooms/guns/tattoos/piercings/lottery tickets/rental cars. /sarc

gwelf on July 18, 2011 at 11:54 PM

FIFY

Egad, what CAN you do if you don’t have ID to at least prove your age and buy all that?

Sekhmet on July 19, 2011 at 12:16 AM

The Upside of Voter ID Initiatives.

visions on July 18, 2011 at 11:28 PM

From the link:

Someone who can’t legally work, drive, have a bank account, or obtain credit has severely misplaced priorities if he’s worried about voting.

That’s why some people vote Democrat!

gwelf on July 19, 2011 at 12:28 AM

FIFY

Egad, what CAN you do if you don’t have ID to at least prove your age and buy all that?

Sekhmet on July 19, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Ha!

gwelf on July 19, 2011 at 12:28 AM

I’d personally like to see a true, tamper-proof system such as fingerprint scanning. This would remove any human element of ID verification and no voter would have to carry any pesky little card around or show up to vote saying “I lost my card etc.”

When I travel internationally, I don’t have to show my passport to a human at any US port of entry instead my identity is verified by electronic fingerprint scanning.

Even my gym doesn’t have membership cards but instead uses an electronic fingerprint scanner. NO ONE gets in the gym without being eligible!

JetBlast on July 19, 2011 at 4:53 AM

I mean WTF?
Are the democrats saying minorities, students, the poor and disabled are idiots and can’t figure out how to get a photo ID

I wonder if your typical piece of leftist garbage will claim it’s genetics that make Blacks less capable of living in civilized society and doing civil things…like have an ID?

Think a 21 year old student would have problems getting an ID?

MNHawk on July 19, 2011 at 7:21 AM

adult beverages/cold medicine/tobacco/paint/plane tickets/pr0n/some prescription meds/”marital aids”/hotel rooms/guns/tattoos/piercings/lottery tickets/rental cars. /sarc

What happens in the voting booth… er… stays in the voting booth?

bitsy on July 19, 2011 at 7:27 AM

At any rate, 20 million Americans of voting age don’t have a govt-issued ID. Why do you want to disenfranchise them to attempt to solve a problem which doesn’t exist?

crr6 on July 18, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Where’d you pull that number from? Out of the same a$$ that you leftists pull that 42 million uninsured number out of?

Anyway, a lot of people that are eligible to vote have ID’s but choose not to register to vote because they choose not to participate. The point has been made that those people have to have ID to buy alcohol. Don’t tell me, they have someone else buy their booze for them.

You are still a Dem hack and an idiot because you have NO common sense and are unable to think logically.

Sporty1946 on July 19, 2011 at 7:38 AM

This is how liberals view “minorities” – helpless children who can’t take care of themselves.

gwelf on July 18, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Liberals look at minorities and poor people and see benighted ninnies for whom voter registration must be easier than getting a Lotto ticket.

Conservatives view these citizens as functional Americans who can easily navigate the processes of local government and properly document their qualification to vote. Or, as NPR would have it — we’re racists.

Jaibones on July 19, 2011 at 7:58 AM

bitsy on July 19, 2011 at 7:27 AM

It would make voting more fun, wouldn’t it?

But seriously, you can’t acquire these things legally without proof of age. And unless you are a felon, it’s much more worth it to get your ID and obtain these than to obtain them illegally.

Sekhmet on July 19, 2011 at 8:10 AM

Wait, so you guys deny that these laws are part of a plot to disenfranchise the poor/minorities? What exactly are they for then?

crr6 on July 18, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Does your dishonest ever bother you?

You are a disgusting, dishonest idiot. You literally make me sick. You have no argument, you can never be honest, you can’t make a rational point – all you can do is claim “racism” or “you hate the poor”. Doesn’t lying so often for your marxist ideology ever tire you out?

good lord you are an idiot. I hope you are enjoying your job working for soros as a paid troll. Or do you still claim to be a law student (in her sixth year no less).

Monkeytoe on July 19, 2011 at 8:30 AM

At any rate, 20 million Americans of voting age don’t have a govt-issued ID. Why do you want to disenfranchise them to attempt to solve a problem which doesn’t exist?

crr6 on July 18, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Wow, that lie had to hurt coming out.

So, there are 20 million americans who have never flown, never rented a car, never opened a bank account, never been employed (the I9 requires a photo i.d.), never bought liquor or alcohol, never driven, never cashed a check, and never received any gov’t benefits (which also require photo i.d.)?

Is that really your claim?

Again, it does not bother you to be so full of dishonesty? That in order to argue for your partisan beliefs, you always have to lie?

Monkeytoe on July 19, 2011 at 8:33 AM

Monkeytoe on July 19, 2011 at 8:33 AM

And never bought tobacco products.

Yes, apparently there are 20 million Amish people. People who have simply never done any of the things in todays world that require photo i.d.

Good lord, it is difficult to understand the need to be this dishonest.

Monkeytoe on July 19, 2011 at 8:36 AM

As I’ve stated before, you can’t even be employed (I9 form) without a photo i.d.

So, dems are claiming that we must protect these people from ever even attempting to obtain employment? Let alone buy alcohol, open a bank account, get a loan, cash a check, buy tobacco, rent a car, drive, fly, or rent a movie?

And, I’d be willing to bet that Obamacare will require photo i.d. to obtain benefits.

I guess if the dems did not have race-baiting to use, they would have nothing to campaign on.

Monkeytoe on July 19, 2011 at 8:41 AM

The next thing you know, the republicans will actually ask for the voter to be alive at the time of voting. Unbelievable.

volsense on July 19, 2011 at 8:41 AM

Many of the Democrats who don’t have regular photo ID’s can just take copies of their mug shots to the polls. That should do.

Akzed on July 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM

It’s cute when liberals complain about the “barriers” that government puts up for people. Requiring ID in this once instance – to vote – somehow amounts to some egregious requirement that will depress voter turn out.

But a 2000+ page nightmare of a “health care” bill won’t have an effect on businesses. That – along with an innumerable host of other regulations – are not really a barrier to creating jobs and the ability of citizens to live their lives.

gwelf on July 19, 2011 at 9:07 AM

I am always struck by the pleas that it is “too hard” to get to a DMV or other such location to pick up a free voter ID. It is not as though this is being sprung on anybody, you have plenty of time.

If you truly can’t be bothered to go to that effort then clearly the right to vote is not terribly important to you.

Dems do not want any system in place to ensure voters are eligible and are who they claim to be – and of course that they vote just once. They do not want this, at least, if you come from the population segments they have so effectively brainwashed into thinking they care for.

The fact is they have farmed those votes carefully and guarded them jealously, now they want to ensure they can harvest them come Fall.

RDuke on July 19, 2011 at 10:30 AM

JetBlast on July 19, 2011 at 4:53 AM

Fingerprint scanners are easy to fool.

cf. http://cryptome.org/fake-prints.htm

“The consequences of the work are even more devastating than described in the article: the use of fingerprint recognition offers a lower security than the lowest level of security used nowadays: username and password combinations.”

LarryD on July 19, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Funny thing is that virtually all states and a large number of municipalities have laws on the books requiring ALL people to have a form of ID on their person, at all times. Kind of shoots the Left’s “argument” in the arse – no?

PJ Emeritus on July 19, 2011 at 12:13 PM

Kind of shoots the Left’s “argument” in the arse – no?

PJ Emeritus on July 19, 2011 at 12:13 PM

The facts on a given issue usually do.

RDuke on July 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM

“You need to pay a fee to ride on Amtrak, ok? No one has said this is discriminatory. This is how you know this is bunk. No one has ever said paying a fee is racially discriminatory in any context other than voting.”

crr6 on July 18, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Are you trying to say, then – in your own cute, though inept way – that there should be NO fee to ride Amtrak?
Because Amtrak requires not only the presentation of a photo ID, but payment of a fee as well in order to ride their trains.
I believe that you will find that the airlines have the same requirement.

Solaratov on July 19, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Larry D,

Thanks for the link. I would guess that a photo ID is even easier to forge and/or fool.

The fingerprint option would also allow for immediate disqualification of people not allowed to vote such as convicted criminals etc. …unless GE handles the database.

JetBlast on July 19, 2011 at 8:56 PM

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