Top Democrats: McConnell’s proposal is now our Plan B
posted at 6:50 pm on July 14, 2011 by Allahpundit
If they’re serious, i.e. this isn’t some form of kabuki, then they’re awfully, awfully stupid to be chattering about it. No matter how much they sweeten the deal, the more the plan reeks of Democratic approval, the harder it’ll be to get through the House.
“Some version of it is definitely the plan B if these larger discussions don’t pan out,” a senior Senate Democratic aide tells me.
Democrats see McConnell’s proposal as a key opening, largely because it constitutes an acknowledgment on McConnell’s part that the debt ceiling must be lifted — a display of urgency that from the point of view of Dems has been alarmingly lacking in other Republicans.
“We are relieved that at least someone on the GOP side says that if nothing else happens, the debt ceiling still needs to be lifted,” the aide continues. “Here you have McConnell siding with Democrats on the urgency of the situation.”
There is, in fact, a sweetener:
The plan, which is being hatched by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), would ensure that over $1.5 trillion in cuts over ten years be passed into law. It would also grant President Obama the authority to extend the debt ceiling through the 2012 election season while requiring him to propose — but allowing him to ultimately veto — cuts beyond those initial $1.5 trillion.
Additionally, the deal would create a new “deficit commission” comprised solely of lawmakers who would be tasked with finding additional savings in the budget. The commission’s recommendations would be given automatic, amendment-free votes in both chambers of Congress.
Why, that sounds a lot like Cantor’s idea for a short-term deal involving $1.5 trillion in cuts — with the important caveat that this wouldn’t be a short-term deal. McConnell’s plan would get Obama through the election on the debt-ceiling issue, albeit at the price of him taking greater ownership of it by kinda sorta unilaterally raising the ceiling himself. Is that good enough for Boehner and the House leadership, who vowed that any debt-ceiling hike would be dollar-for-dollar? $1.5 trillion in cuts would, per their pledge, limit the debt-ceiling increase to $1.5 trillion, which means we’d have to deal with this again before election day. Unless the amount of cuts can be increased, the pledge would have to be quietly dropped. Is Boehner prepared for that? Maybe!
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, just told reporters that he thought Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s so-called “last resort” option for resolving the debt ceiling stalemate should be left on the table.
“Mitch described it as a ‘last ditch,’” Boehner said, adding that whatever people think of it at the moment, if no deal is reached, “it might look pretty good a few weeks from now.”
Paul Ryan, in an interview with Guy Benson, also conspicuously refused to rule out McConnell’s plan while acknowledging that he’s “not a fan.” Maybe it’s the House GOP leadership, in fact, that’s engaged in a little kabuki here: The more they treat McConnell’s plan, which tea partiers hate, as a viable alternative, the more the caucus might be willing to accept a deal with the Democrats, be it Cantor’s short-term debt-ceiling hike in exchange for $1.5 trillion in cuts or some other compromise.
As for McConnell’s new partner in the Senate, he’s sure of only two things. One: McConnell’s plan is constitutional, so shut up, wingnuts. And two: He gets really uncomfortable when you ask him whether tax hikes are more important to Democrats than avoiding a default. Exit quotation: “I am not going to get into a bunch of hypotheticals.”









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That is great news..I hope seniors will not be spooked by Obie!..:)
Dire Straits on July 14, 2011 at 7:56 PM
Its not so much that the Democrats say and do stupid and false things its that they get away with it, if they were held to the same standard as the Right they’d never be reelected.
Speakup on July 14, 2011 at 7:56 PM
Plan E.. Remove the imaginary 14 Trillion number and just raise it to 14 Quadrillion then party. Doom either way so lets just party. Party like there is no tomorrow because there may not be.
In 2020 August 4th will be a national holiday for the dear leader’s birthday so why not start now.
tjexcite on July 14, 2011 at 7:57 PM
Shouldnt that read Top Dems Ok Democrap bitch mcconnells plan?
because that plan was submitted by obamas bitch !
ColdWarrior57 on July 14, 2011 at 7:57 PM
If the leadership attempts this sellout, we can only hope Congress votes it down. McConnell’s plan is no good for conservatives, and gives Obummer nearly everything he wants. Congress would become even less relevant than it is now!
GFW on July 14, 2011 at 7:58 PM
Erick at RedState. The McConnell support for CC&B was a sham becauswe he’ll never let it get to the floor.
Wethal on July 14, 2011 at 8:17 PM
1.5 over 10 years? what is funny is ALL the cuts they have been talking about so far are nothing but air… they are cuts in spending increases. Nothing but DC smoke and mirrors. If they cant agree to the fake cuts that have been proposed to this point how much faith are we supposed to put into that nonsense that Odrama will own it this time theory. The Won has come out and sternly proclaimed a number of times to this point how he welcomes the economy, give it to me, I will gladly own it, blah blah blah. Doesnt matter when the media will spin it back to R’s and he will always flip it back to the right on a whim.
The lying and overtly political gamemanship is completely out of control at this point.
Koa on July 14, 2011 at 8:19 PM
I do hope that posters are also sending their comments directly to their congress critter. Posting here is fun and I enjoy it…but, alas, it is mental masturbation because congress critters don’t read these.
Dingbat63 on July 14, 2011 at 8:39 PM
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JIMV on July 14, 2011 at 8:59 PM
These damned debt issues certainly are taking up plenty of time to discuss backdoor immigration. I need my illegal aliens to clean my house.
Get your act together, Congress. I need my toilet cleaned.
madmonkphotog on July 14, 2011 at 9:06 PM
This stinks. Just pass a short term deal with matching cuts. Let Obama veto it if he dares.
G. Charles on July 14, 2011 at 9:10 PM
Republicans folding like cheap lawn furniture. There is no other way to spin it.
Dr Evil on July 14, 2011 at 9:26 PM
Just a good example of how America, if it ever has an actual dictator rise to power, it won’t be through some violent coup or something or even from Democrats doing something insidiously clever, it’ll just be the GOP voluntarily giving up and handing over all of their power.
JellyToast on July 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM
I think it’s about time for McConnell to start looking for a new line of work.
Kevin71 on July 14, 2011 at 10:00 PM
This!
promachus on July 15, 2011 at 1:00 AM
The McConnel plan only highlights why I WILL NOT be going to the polls in 2012 to throw Obama out of power.
If we throw him out – we have to have something to replace him with other than a GOP Establishment Eunuch.
I’ll be going to the polls in 2012 specifically to REFORM the GOP. That means voting out ALL elitists and I’ll vote for any Tea Party wingnut that it takes to do that – regardless of their record of mental sanity. I just don’t care – they’ll do better than the McConnell crowd.
We cannot fix the nation until we get at least one party in shape to fix it. That means fixing the GOP – or starting another party and, I’m fine (totally) with starting another party.
But right now – I’m more angry at the GOP than I am the Dims. The Dims are predictable – and true to their base at least. This cannot be said of the lying, traitorous GOP in it’s current form.
And if the GOP has the stupidity to nominate an Establishment nominee – I’ll vote proudly for Obama or third party.
TIRED OF THE GOP.
HondaV65 on July 15, 2011 at 1:31 AM
Anyone here still doubts that Obamacare was passed with the complicity of the GOP establishment?
They could have stopped it if they wanted to, especially in the Senate where there are many tools at the disposal of the minority to thwart the will of the majority if they so desire. Anyone remember McConnell allowing the vote on Obamacare before Christmas?
It will be noted in some time to come that one of the major victories that the Dems achieved in our generation was the infiltration and takeover of the leadership of the GOP. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to learn later that McConnell and most of the Senate RINOs were Democrats all along.
TheRightMan on July 15, 2011 at 2:02 AM
Yep, until conservatives/Tea Party complete the purge of the RINOs from the GOP, the party certainly does not deserve control of the Senate nor the White House.
When you have GOP leaders laying down proposals to benefit Democrats and backstabbing their base every chance they get, the base would be foolish to keep voting them into power.
McConnell (king of pork and earmarks) has never been a small Govt. conservative – he loves the expansion of the nanny state probably more than Obama himself. Heck, Bill Clinton was probably more of a conservative than a lot of the RINOs we have now.
TheRightMan on July 15, 2011 at 2:09 AM
No matter how cynical I get, I just can’t seem to keep up.
Bugler on July 15, 2011 at 6:44 AM
Me too.
Bugler on July 15, 2011 at 6:46 AM
It is very simple.
If Republicans hand over more power and money now they will cease to exist as a party by 2016.
Do your job, stick to your oath, protect and defend the republic and you will be fine. It isn’t about ‘the country’ it is about the republic, and if you can’t figure out that the republic is the strength of having our nation, then you don’t understand what republicanism IS any more.
ajacksonian on July 15, 2011 at 7:21 AM
President Obama has done it again. Classic rope-a-dope.
And the Republicans supplied their own rope. Now they are in complete disarray. I predict total capitulation and bitter, freestyle recrimination within the GOP.
Nice to see this thread already has a head start.
“First you get ‘em drunk, then you mug ‘em.”
-Muhammad Ali
chumpThreads on July 15, 2011 at 8:43 AM
Right on!
rplat on July 15, 2011 at 8:56 AM
JellyToast on July 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM
What a great handle for Mitch McConnell!
theaddora on July 15, 2011 at 10:49 AM
Republicans won an historic landslide election last November not to hand over more power to Obama but to lead, to reduce spending, and put an end to criminally inept fiscal irresponsibility. Faced with $14.6 Trillion in total debt, being more than $1.6 Trillion over budget this year alone, and already having surpassed the legal debt ceiling, President Obama is acting like a spoiled socialist brat! He has resorted to blackmail/threatening the elderly and demands to have the debt ceiling raised high enough where he doesn’t have to face the issue again until after the next election, demands to keep the pace of his record-setting deficit spending, with NO CUTS!
I already thought he was beginning to lose touch with reality when he signed the Westminster Abbey visiter’s log earlier this year with the date ’2008′. I thought so again yesterday when it was reported that Obama couldn’t remember his own birthday (hard to keeep track of birth certificates? LOL!). But watching him rabidly defend his out-of-control, national security-threatening, record setting deficit spending hasme convinced. 80% of all Americans back his plan and are onboard for higher taxes while tax payer dollars are going to fund teaching Chinese prostitutes how to drink more responsibly on duty, shrimp on treadmills, jello wrestling in the antarctic as he threatens granny’s social security checks?! Far from Presidential material, Obama is a socialist thug who talks the talk and will do anything to get his way while refusing to walk the walk. One thing is for sure, I am finally onboard with his campaign slogan: Man, I “HOPE” for “CHANGE”…soon! All this nation has to do is SURVIVE until he is out of office!
easyt65 on July 19, 2011 at 9:02 AM
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