Q-poll: GOP will get blame if debt ceiling not raised

posted at 10:13 am on July 14, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Most analysts reviewing the latest Quinnipiac poll have focused on the fact that while Barack Obama remains seriously underwater on the economy, voters appear to trust him more than either party in Congress.  The bigger takeaway, though, might be how voters see the potential outcomes of the debate over the debt ceiling.  The Q-poll shows that Obama is, at least for now, edging out the GOP in casting the terms of the debate:

The president gets a 47 – 46 percent job approval rating, unchanged from the June 9 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University. That tops a 64 – 28 percent disapproval for Democrats in Congress and a 65 – 26 percent disapproval for Republicans. Obama outscores congressional Republicans on several points in the deficit reduction battle:

  • Voters will blame Republicans over Obama 48 – 34 percent if the debt limit is not raised;
  • Voters say 67 – 25 percent that an agreement to raise the debt ceiling should include tax hikes for the wealthy and corporations, not just spending cuts;
  • Voters say 45 – 37 percent that Obama’s proposals to raise revenues are “closing loopholes,” rather than “tax hikes”;
  • But voters say 57 – 30 percent that Obama’s proposals will impact the middle class, not just the wealthy.

“The American people aren’t very happy about their leaders, but President Barack Obama is viewed as the best of the worst, especially when it comes to the economy,” said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling institute.

Obama’s approval rating on the economy is still mired at 38/56, hardly a good position for an incumbent looking for a second term.  With another recession looking more likely, those numbers won’t improve much.  Right now, 71% think we’re in a recession, but they still blame George Bush 54/27 for it; that’s 49/24 among independents.  If we do hit negative territory again after two years of stagnation, though, Obama will end up owning it.

However, at the moment, Obama has a narrow lead over Republicans in trust on the economy, 45/38.  The bullet points show a serious vulnerability for Republicans in staring down Obama to the point where market disruptions from debt-ceiling paralysis occurs, assuming such disruptions do occur.  At least in this poll — and Quinnipiac has generally been a reliable, independent pollster — standing on the no-new-revenues pledge might end up with the GOP taking ownership of whatever follows.

This is, of course, exactly what Mitch McConnell warned about earlier this week.  However, Quinnipiac never asks the straightforward question of whether the ceiling should be raised, as other polls have and routinely get 2-1 opposition.  They do ask what worries voters more, that raising the debt limit would mean more government spending and debt, or economic disruption from a refusal to raise the ceiling.  The fear of economic disruption barely edges the fear of escalating debt 45/43, which seems somewhat of an outlier considering the polls from CBS and The Hill over the last few months.

If this poll is accurate, then McConnell has good reason to worry.

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“GOP will get blame if debt ceiling not raised”

Yep. And they should.

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Multiple polls show 2-1 don’t raise it.

But this poll shows R’s get blamed if it’s not raised?

F them.

artist on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Can’t blame Obama, that would be RACIST!

NMRN123 on July 14, 2011 at 10:16 AM

I would argue that the GOP has been awfully poor in messaging. Unless they’ve all gone mute, how about getting in front of the cameras and explaining where we are at as a country? Or are they this chicken $hit? Rush can only do so much…

search4truth on July 14, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Horse hockey

Sonosam on July 14, 2011 at 10:16 AM

•Voters will blame Republicans over Obama 48 – 34 percent if the debt limit is not raised;

That isn’t necessarily a bad thing according to all those other polls you’ve been posting lately. “Blame” makes it sound bad.

Kelligan on July 14, 2011 at 10:17 AM

••Voters say 67 – 25 percent that an agreement to raise the debt ceiling should include tax hikes for the wealthy and corporations, not just spending cuts;
•But voters say 57 – 30 percent that Obama’s proposals will impact the middle class, not just the wealthy.

Proof positive that people skipped economics 101 in school

gophergirl on July 14, 2011 at 10:17 AM

If things go South, as they very well may without a deal, I don’t think that Americans will be in a mood to distinguish between the WH or Congress. They will blame Washington DC.

MJBrutus on July 14, 2011 at 10:18 AM

I’m starting to think this isn’t the hill for the GOP to do battle on. McConnell may well be right.

It’s interesting that Ann Coulter agrees with McConnell’s strategy.

Drained Brain on July 14, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Screw the polls. You have to do what is RIGHT.

Instead of floating CYA positions where McConnell hopes and prays that giving the executive office the power of the purse strings granted to the legislature by the US Constitution will somehow stick Obama with the problem is moronic and childish.

The GOP MUST get out to the press and explain their position that the US can survive by tightening its belt, that there’s more than enough revenues coming in to pay the bills and keep the country going if we just fall back to the 2008 budget.

Where is THAT effort? Where is that wheeling and dealing?

Nooo… the polls say the Republicans will be blamed for a default if the debt ceiling isn’t raised, so the GOP wrings their hands in fear.

Screw them. Pass the budget bill that spends within our means and won’t cause a deficit default, talk it up in the press about the great solution they’ve come up with and LET THE SENATE AND PRESIDENT VETO it.

THAT is how you shift blame.

Skywise on July 14, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Why?

Is it Because the NSM is an integral part of the Democratic National Socialist Progressive Party?

Chip on July 14, 2011 at 10:19 AM

I think people will blame the r’s no matter how this thing works out. WE always get the blame, never bho, team, or the d’s.
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letget on July 14, 2011 at 10:19 AM

sorry.. it happens on the presidents watch, its the president who gets the blame…

gatorboy on July 14, 2011 at 10:19 AM

If an asteroid knocked the moon into the earth tomorrow, the GOP would get blamed for it. Puh-leeze.

CurtZHP on July 14, 2011 at 10:20 AM

Where the hell is Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University?

pilamaye on July 14, 2011 at 10:20 AM

Blame?

They should get credit for stopping a runaway Marxist train.

darwin on July 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM

I’m starting to think this isn’t the hill for the GOP to do battle on.

….

We hear that on everything.

The next cave will be the 12 budget.

Then…

artist on July 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM

OT:Bailout for Booze

ConservativePartyNow on July 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM

They do ask what worries voters more, that raising the debt limit would mean more government spending and debt, or economic disruption from a refusal to raise the ceiling. The fear of economic disruption barely edges the fear of escalating debt 45/43,

Both will cause economic disruption, one will cause some right now, and one will cause a greater one later when they won’t be blamed for it. So kick the can down the road again politicians, while we look for a leader to get us out of this mess.

Corsair on July 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM

DRywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Windowless van at the mechanic’s again?

CurtZHP on July 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Where the hell is Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University?

CT.

artist on July 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM

The American people aren’t very happy about their leaders, but President Barack Obama is viewed as the best of the worst,

Was this poll taken before he had his little temper tantrum?

Chip on July 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Whut duz this hear mean Harriet, economic diruption?

I don’t know Ed, just say but it has economics in it so it can’t be good!

Vince on July 14, 2011 at 10:22 AM

The GOP is being set up to take the fall for Professor O’Barry’s disastrous policies.

It’s the Chicago way…
Loot the economy.
Make your cronies rich.
Find a Republican to blame it on when you get caught.

NickDeringer on July 14, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Alternative headline ………..

GOP Stands Firm, Refuses to Spend More Money, Raise Debt

fogw on July 14, 2011 at 10:22 AM

And Sarah Palin was responsible for Gabby…

I like what SP thinks

” you can’t trust this president”

Sonosam on July 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM

I blame Republicans for not hitting back and hitting hard. No fancy words, Keep It Simple Stupid:

We’re spending ourselves into a huge hole, and we’ll never be able to dig out if we don’t stop NOW.

Laura in Maryland on July 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM

“GOP will get blame if debt ceiling not raised”

Yep. And they should.

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Then shouldn’t Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid get the blame for running up another $7 trillion in debt and making this increase necessary? If not, why?

rockmom on July 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Blame is a funny word. They will get accolades from me.

Fallon on July 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM

I blame Republicans for not hitting back and hitting hard. No fancy words, Keep It Simple Stupid:

We’re spending ourselves into a huge hole, and we’ll never be able to dig out if we don’t stop NOW.

Laura in Maryland on July 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM
———-
Yeah you are – so how come proposed cuts are only hitting the middle class?
How come the rich aren’t asked to sacrifice anything?
Why was closing a private jet tax loophole so offensive?
How come you refuse to make cuts to the military?
Why is your country so f*cked?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Obama has a narrow lead over Republicans in trust on the economy, 45/38.

Here, to me, is the most damning proof of the utter and complete failure of the the GOP “message machine” and its inability to present a unified, clear, concise message to counteract the avalanche of bullsh*t pouring out of the White House each day.

No rapid response, no press conferences, nothing. Just silence while Democrats run around screaming childish nonsense and fairy tales.

And I have no confidence they’ll get it together and start pushing back, either.

Good Lt on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

GOP will get blame

May as well stop right there.

Who else would the leftist propaganda organs blame? For anything?

You can’t win playing defense.

faraway on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

The GOP will be ‘blamed’ not matter what happens.

The GOP does not have the ability to control the media narrative. The GOP will always in every situation be blamed for everything bad. That’s the narrative.

If our economy collapses because our debt burden the GOP will be blamed even though Democrats are responsible for most of the spending – and 100% responsible for the rapid acceleration of debt accumulation of the last several years.

Here’s what’s going to happen if McConnell’s plan is taken: The media will praise the Democrats for raising the debt ceiling and saving us from the economic-terrorist GOP.

What will happen if the GOP holds the line and the Democrats cave? It will prevent our nation from sliding even further into economic decline.

What will happen if the GOP holds the line and the Democrats don’t cave and Aug 2nd comes and goes and there has been no debt ceiling increase? Obama will be forced to prioritize spending. If Social Security checks don’t go out it’s his fault. If our debt doesn’t get paid and we go into default it will be his fault. We have enough money coming in to pay our most critical ‘bills’. Of course the media will try to cover this up but there is only so much they can do when Obama’s actually in charge of spending and there is enough honest and conservative media out there to highlight what government is spending money on (instead of paying off maturing bonds or Social Security etc).

gwelf on July 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Hear hear skywall!

cmsinaz on July 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM

“GOP will get blame if debt ceiling not raised”

Yep. And they should.

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Blame Canada. South Park does.

Wethal on July 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Skywise Sorry

cmsinaz on July 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM

I would argue that the GOP has been awfully poor in messaging. Unless they’ve all gone mute, how about getting in front of the cameras and explaining where we are at as a country?

search4truth

Well its not as if they get equal time in front of the camera. Nor do they get fair coverage in articles. No article I read on CNN about SS checks not going out said jack about prioritizing payments for example. hence they have to work 4 times as hard. Thats what McConnell was thinking.

Zaggs on July 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Increasingly, I think the GOP has little power in DC other than to stop some things. But in the case of the debt-ceiling debate, there’s no agreement on the consequences of of not raising the ceiling, but Obama and the press will blame the GOP all the same.

I say the GOP should step back, admit that it can’t stop Obama, and give him what he wants. Just let Obama raise the debt ceiling with nothing in return. Heck, give him his tax increases and his depreciation on corporate jets. Put it all on Obama.

Then, all the GOP senators and members of the House should meet at some place for a group press conference and inform the public that they can’t stop Obama and the Senate Dems until voters turn them out. Then, cite the dire predictions resulting from the tax increases, the effect on small-aircraft manufacturing from the slower depreciation deductions. More important, they should draw big red circles around the important regulatory efforts that are killing the economy: Obamacare, the EPA’s war on fossil fuel, the NRLB’s war on right to work, the effect of Dodd-Frank on the financial industry.

In the end, the GOP should just throw up its hands and say, “You think things are bad now. Just wait. But polls tell us that you don’t want out solutions. And if it turns out that in about 18 months that you do, make sure that you vote in November 2012.”

BuckeyeSam on July 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Ok, here’s the truth of it…

Republicans will get the blame for any breakdown, and Obama will get the credit for any deal. It’s the way the media works, so it’s the way the American muddlehead thinks.

So the GOP will take the heat for a debt-limit crash, but will it hurt them in elections?

The GOP Freshmen in the House got in on fiscal policy, and Obama and the Democrats have done nothing to steal their thunder. They can blame the GOP all they want for the debt ceiling problems, but the RNC can cut ads showing A) that Obama’s spending got us into the debt ceiling problem faster than ever and B) the GOP has been calling for cuts to accompany any ceiling raise to prevent us running into the debt ceiling again.

In fact, the RNC or some Republican organization MUST cut these ads, and soon, so people know who’s really to blame here. This will mitigate damage in possible swing districts and maintain the GOP strength in the House.

Also, people disapprove of Congress. But they love their own Representatives. If the GOP Freshmen stay on the message they pledged to go there with, the people will still love them.

There’s an opportunity here for the GOP to snatch a big victory from the jaws of defeat. I just hope they can take advantage of it.

Nethicus on July 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM

As long as BO is in office the GOP eill get blamed for everything bad that happens so why is this any different? Apparently many voters still like the crease in BO’s pants or are still afraid of being called bigots. /

katiejane on July 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Boehner might be a nice guy but he is a piss poor leader, the interview he did with Brett Bair the other day on Fox was pathetic…really he needs to be replaced with someone that is confident and smart…telling the world he does not know what to do is just unacceptable…

georgealbert on July 14, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Aren’t you still Canadian? We don’t opine on your country’s dealings.

Red Cloud on July 14, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Yeah you are – so how come proposed cuts are only hitting the middle class?
How come the rich aren’t asked to sacrifice anything?
Why was closing a private jet tax loophole so offensive?
How come you refuse to make cuts to the military?
Why is your country so f*cked?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

I stand in awe of your ignorance and stupidity.

gwelf on July 14, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Yeah, they might get blamed. But the rap’s on Obama if SS checks don’t go out. And in any rate, our 24-hour news cycle will ensure this is out of everyone’s mind in three weeks.

KingGold on July 14, 2011 at 10:30 AM

24b. SPLIT SAMPLE B What do you think is more important – reducing federal government spending, or reducing unemployment?

This kind of implies that the two are inversely related.

forest on July 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM

GOP will get blame if debt ceiling not raised

…by Democrats, who cares, what’s new?

royzer on July 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Agree gop will get the blame no matter what happens so they should stand true. Screw the lsm and the dems. I’m tired of the kowtowing

cmsinaz on July 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM

The GOP will get blame no matter what. If we did what McConnell wants we’d be blamed for playing a “pass the buck” game in the middle of a economic crisis. And those critics would actually be correct, since McConnell admits that the best aspect of his plan is to avoid blame and thus political fallout. THe media would jump on that faster than you could say “debt”. It’d be, “The republicans care more about elections than they do about the economic condition of this country.” And they’d be right. McConnell’s plan wont stop the GOP from being blamed for anything. So…do what voters sent you there to do.

Weight of Glory on July 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Blamed for what exactly? Starting the government down the path to sanity?

The poll is skewed and not relevant.

dogsoldier on July 14, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Why is your country so f*cked?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

You are a scumbag.

VegasRick on July 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Yeah you are – so how come proposed cuts are only hitting the middle class?
How come the rich aren’t asked to sacrifice anything?
Why was closing a private jet tax loophole so offensive?
How come you refuse to make cuts to the military?
Why is your country so f*cked?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Are you really so stupid that you think “the rich don’t sacrifice anything?” Seriously? You can’t be this stupid. “The Rich” pay more than anyone else. Liberals.

search4truth on July 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Yeah you are – so how come proposed cuts are only hitting the middle class?

They’re not.

How come the rich aren’t asked to sacrifice anything?

They are, idiot. They’re paying most of he income taxes in the country, idiot. The bottom 50% pay how much proportionally compared to the top 10%, you idiot?

Why was closing a private jet tax loophole so offensive?

It was put in the stimulus by Obama and the Democrats. Ask them why they put it in there to begin with, idiot.

How come you refuse to make cuts to the military?

How come Democrats won’t allow reform of Medicare and Social Security, even as the acknowledge both are unsustainable as currently structured, you idiot?

Why is your country so f*cked?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Too much government and too reliance on it, you idiot.

Good Lt on July 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM

If we do hit negative territory again after two years of stagnation, though, Obama will end up owning it.

You sure Obama will own it, Ed? Even if people have finally accepted that he’s clueless on economic matters, I’ll bet many of them will never be willing to admit it to anyone else.

Doughboy on July 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Why is your country so f*cked?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Liberal policies and big gov’t spending.

Next question?

artist on July 14, 2011 at 10:34 AM

artist on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Yeah its a con job fake poll put up by the socialists intended to scare the GOP. They are a pretty weak knee’d bunch.

Spineless squishy politicians. They need to stop spending.

dogsoldier on July 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM

I love question #11:

Regardless of how you feel about Barack Obama’s policies, would you say you like or don’t like Barack Obama as a person?

Did any poll anywhere ever ask such a question about GWB? Of course not. They know Obama’s competency numbers are deep under water, but need a polling point to sell him as a success to the American people. The introductory clause directs the person how to answer the question, and then we get news report after news report about how much Americans “like” president Obama. And then — after asking if they “like” Obama or not — they get to the approve/disapprove questions about his governance, thus having softened the ground for how people will respond to those. This poll, like nearly all others from lefty outfits, is a transparent attempt to prop up a failing presidency.

Rational Thought on July 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM

***

Why was closing a private jet tax loophole so offensive?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Can you please describe what this loophole is? I bet that you cannot. Loophole is a term of disparagement that applies to a manuever that purports to comply with the letter of the law while evading the spirit of the law. How is that applicable in this instance?

BuckeyeSam on July 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM

Why is your country so f*cked?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Because we’ve got too many retards like you down here.

gwelf on July 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM

That’s strange because the real poll last November basically said Republicans are trusted more at all levels of government by wide margins (landslide margins).

Youngs98 on July 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM

So let’s see:

GOP President, Dem Congress: If there is a shutdown or problem – blame the GOP.

GOP President, Dem Congress: If there is a shutdown or problem – blame the GOP.

Dem President, GOP Congress: If there is a shutdown or problem – blame GOP.

Dem President, Dem Congress: If there is a shutdown or problem – blame GOP.

What am I missing? The GOP gets the blame no matter what according to polls of “DC insiders”. Frankly, why should we care? Just DO THE RIGHT THING and let the only polls that matter (election day) speak for themselves.

It’s time to “call their bluff” – as Obama confessed.

TheRightMan on July 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Good Lt on July 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Please don’t feed the maple syrup-covered troll.

KingGold on July 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM

The poll question asks who would be responsible if the debts ceiling isn’t raised. Responsibility is not credit or blame, y’know.

Sick of spin.

ElectricPhase on July 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM

So many people are breaking the law and risking their very lives to move into Canada to live with liberals like DRywall. Oh wait, no they’re not. That’s the United States they’re trying to live in sorry.

search4truth on July 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM

B-O-O H-O-O

RDE2010 on July 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM

The first should read:

GOP President, Dem GOP Congress…

TheRightMan on July 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM

GOP will get blame if debt ceiling not raised”

Yep. And they should.

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

One mans’ blame is another mans’ vindication.

We will soon be vindicated.

BobMbx on July 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Yep. And they should.

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM

For a party that only controls 1/3 of the government the GOP sure does have a lot of power. But then, this was also true when it controlled nothing in government, so I guess the Right just has magical powers. That’s really so convenient for the Left. No responsibility, no blame.

Esthier on July 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM

As you may know, unless Congress and the president can agree to raise the federal debt limit soon, the government will not be able to borrow more money to fund its operations and pay its debts. If the limit is not raised, who do you think would mainly be responsible for this: the Obama Administration or the Republicans in Congress?

Of course the response would be Republicans, but I think the headline should be GOP will get credit if debt ceiling not raised.

mbs on July 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Because we’ve got too many retards like you down here.

gwelf on July 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Mentally Challenged people everywhere are outraged at being compared to that troll!

search4truth on July 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM

Boehner might be a nice guy but he is a piss poor leader, the interview he did with Brett Bair the other day on Fox was pathetic…really he needs to be replaced with someone that is confident and smart…telling the world he does not know what to do is just unacceptable…

georgealbert on July 14, 2011 at 10:30 AM

I’m beginning to agree. And I’m in one of the two districts just south of his in SW Ohio.

BuckeyeSam on July 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM

Youngs98 on July 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM

A poll Failbama and company are trying hard to ignore. But they can’t. There are rumors that internally Fail’s staff is in total panic.

As well they should be, especially after he admitted he was bluffing yesterday. Ouch that’s gotta smart!

dogsoldier on July 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM

Groan.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM

GOP will get blame

faraway on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

UNLEASH THE KRAKE….I mean, UNLEASH THE LUNATICS AT MSNBC!

pilamaye on July 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Obama beat everyone, however, with his scaremongering claim that Social Security checks are at risk if he doesn’t get his way on the debt ceiling. “I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on Aug. 3 if we haven’t resolved this issue,” he told CBS News, “because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.”

Wait! What happened to Social Security’s “guarantee”?
You know, the iron-clad assurance of Social Security benefits in exchange for paying into the program your whole working life? It’s something Democrats constantly talk about, particularly when attacking Republicans who propose privatizing the program.

As Nancy Pelosi once put it: “Social Security has never failed to pay promised benefits, and Democrats will fight to make sure that Republicans do not turn a guaranteed benefit into a guaranteed gamble.”

EPIC FAIL by “The Won”

J_Crater on July 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

The Quinnipiac poll is not a professional polling group actually paid by customers to do research, but a group affiliated with a college. It strongly favors Democrats, since its director, Maurice Carroll, was a reporter for The New York Times and the New York Daily News and is a classic knee-jerk liberal.

Quinnipiac University is located in Hamden, CT, just north of New Haven, and Quinnipiac is an Algonquin word which means, “vote Democratic.”

Emperor Norton on July 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

GOP will get blame CREDIT if debt ceiling not raised

(Corrected to remove dishonest left-wing bias from headline which implies that public wants debt limit raised, when in fact public is 2:1 AGAINST raising debt limit)

landlines on July 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

I am at a loss why popularity and blame is even a consideration when making these decisions. Why doesn’t anyone question why $128Billion in unspent Porkulous is off limits in the discussion. Or the high speed rail that NO ONE WANTS. How about a little reality in reporting about The Won. I live to dream.

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Please don’t feed the maple syrup-covered troll.

KingGold on July 14, 2011 at 10:36 AMBut he’s so tasty!

Good Lt on July 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

GOP will get blame on everything due to the MSM.

yubley on July 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Dave Rywall, why haven’t the Democrats passed a budget in the last 800 days?

Good Lt on July 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM

It’s interesting that Ann Coulter agrees with McConnell’s strategy.

Drained Brain on July 14, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Isn’t she BFF with Bill Maher?

a capella on July 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Mentally Challenged people everywhere are outraged at being compared to that troll!

search4truth on July 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM

In Rywall’s country I could probably be criminally charged with human rights violations.

gwelf on July 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Of course the GOP gets the blame. They always get the blame thanks to the MSM, an ineffectively opposed Dem propaganda machine, and jelly spined RINOs like McConnell who go wobbly even they have the upper hand: and the GOP always has gotten the blame, at least until things go so far down that even morons finally understand a change must be made or that it wasn’t the GOP afterall. If the GOP were effective at getting their arguments before the public they’d not get the blame. You cannot do so, however, when you do not believe in Reagan conservatism and are at heart a cheapskate Democrat yourself. So the GOP gets blamed because too many of them are RINOs and the conservatives don’t do an effective job at explaining themselves to a broad audience. Thus, they should do the right thing, and not worry about polls etc., but of course, this is not in the nature of RINOs/moderates/Rockefellers. They are collectively a bunch of “old maids” and besides, in their hearts, they believe in and want the leviathan state.

McConnell et al are Charlie Brown to the Dems Lucy. RINOs will NEVER stop getting duped by the Dems, apparently.

JimP on July 14, 2011 at 10:42 AM

Rywall must be of the Canadian socialist party or something. The only thing those idiots up there know who to do is play hockey and make beer. Envy seems to have become the number 1 sin these days. I mean sure I would like to have a lot more money for me and my family but I realize that I have to do it on my own and not rely on someone else to rob from others to give to me. That is the group think of these lazy liberal slobs that think that the world owes them a living and everything is so unfair.

I have the view just like Christ who said “I never said that following me would be easy but if you did it would be worth it”.

jistincase on July 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM

another day, another rigged poll…

golfmann on July 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM

EPIC FAIL by “The Won”

J_Crater on July 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

I agree. This is another statement by Captain Fail that will have long term unexpected consequences. He doesn’t understand how seniors look at Social Security at all. In their minds, there is an account with all their money in it.

Failbama completely destroyed that myth…

(I tried explaining this to my Dad once. He sure got angry. The dems fed that myth for a very long time….)

dogsoldier on July 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Where can you find the sampling in that poll?

Key West Reader on July 14, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Voters will blame Republicans over Obama 48 – 34 percent if the debt limit is not raised;

They didn’t ask the question about the debt ceiling because that wasn’t the intention of the poll. The intention of the poll was to argue to raise the debt ceiling.

When you get Obama, all the dems, the IMF, all the European press including the Economist on the same script you have to wonder why. They want the 50% of the American workforce that actually pays taxes to pay more. It looks to me like this class warfare gimmick actually pits the American worker against the failing European Union. Enough already.

DanMan on July 14, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Why is your country so f*cked?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Haha. Oh that’s rich coming from a Canadian obsessed with American politics.

Esthier on July 14, 2011 at 10:45 AM

EPIC FAIL by “The Won”

J_Crater on July 14, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Yep. A lot of people are missing this. He admitted the Ponzi scheme is what it is. No lockbox. Unintended consequenses.

a capella on July 14, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

You really, REALLY lack in the bedroom department, don’t ya. That can be the only explanation for your opinions, and comments.

capejasmine on July 14, 2011 at 10:46 AM

I think what they meant to say was that the GOP would get credit if the ceiling is not raised. AFAIK, the public still opposes raising the debt ceiling by 2 to 1.

Vashta.Nerada on July 14, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Why wont anyone come right out and get in the ManChild’s face and tell him: You do not have to default. Pay the interest on the debt; pay the Seniors and Militiary. Suspend pay for congress and for POTUS and BLOTUS.

And cancel your stupid birthday fundraising party in Illinois that scheduled for August 3rd, Buh Rock.

/sick of this noise.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Why was closing a private jet tax loophole so offensive?

Dave Rywall on July 14, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Do tell, good little tool. Reach into your extensive poli sci “education” and tell the world what exactly this “loophole” is, who created that particular “loophole,” and now much that “loophole” now costs.

Go for it, little guy.

MNHawk on July 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM

To the commie Canadian, shouldn’t you do what Canadians do best, rioting after America whooped your a** in your sport, btw no American cares about hockey or Canada.

The university is most likely left, but this is conservatives fault. We’ve allowed the liberals to control the media in this country for the last 50-70 years. If we’re ever going to turn this country around, we’ve got to take control of the msm.

IR-MN on July 14, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Rywall lives in Canada, eh?

Dave, you better hope we don’t cut our Military too much. If we did, then Canada might actually have to develop one of their own.

Youngs98 on July 14, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Best Analysis from RedState:

See, in history, we remember James Buchanan causing the Civil War. Not Congress.

We remember Abraham Lincoln winning the war. Not Congress.

We remember Andrew Johnson failing to finish reconciliation the way Lincoln wanted. Not Congress.

We remember Woodrow Wilson failing to establish the League of Nations. Not Congress.

We remember Herbert Hoover causing the Great Depression. Not Congress.

We remember Franklin Roosevelt for saving us from the Depression and war. Not Congress.

We credit John F. Kennedy for inspiring a nation of youth and leading us to the moon. Not Congress.

We credit Lyndon Johnson with passing the Great Society. Not Congress.

We blame Jimmy Carter for out of control inflation in the 70?s. Not Congress.

We credit Ronald Reagan with cutting taxes. Not Congress.

We blame George H. W. Bush for raising taxes. Not Congress.

We praise Bill Clinton for balancing a budget. Not Congress.
We credit George W. Bush with No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, Immigration Reform attempts, TARP, and the GM bailout. Not Congress.

Hell, when people hear Osama Bin Laden is dead, Barack Obama gets the credit, not the SEALs. And we credit him for passing Obamacare, for better or worse, even when Congressional Democrats did all the heavy lifting.

You see Mr. Speaker, we know Barack Obama is thin skinned and we know he is mindful of his legacy. This is why Barack Obama stormed out of a meeting with Republicans last night when they confronted him with the fact that his supposed spending cuts are accounting gimmicks.

Barack Obama, for the sake of his legacy, cannot afford to be the President under whom America’s credit tanks and under whom America defaults on its debts.

History will not blame Congress. History will blame Barack Obama for not doing what it takes to lead and for failing to do what it takes, no matter the cost, to keep the U.S. solvent.

LordMaximus on July 14, 2011 at 10:49 AM

MNHawk on July 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM

Don’t feed the trolls, dear. They multiply when you do.

Key West Reader on July 14, 2011 at 10:49 AM

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