Quotes of the day

posted at 10:33 pm on July 13, 2011 by Allahpundit

“The average Republican voter, based on this data, wants a mix of 26 percent tax increases to 74 percent spending cuts. The average independent voter prefers a 34-to-66 mix, while the average Democratic voter wants a 46-to-54 mix…

“If we do take the Republicans’ no-new-taxes position literally, it isn’t surprising that the negotiations have broken down. Consider that, according to the Gallup poll, Republican voters want the deal to consist of 26 percent tax increases, and Democratic voters 46 percent — a gap of 20 percentage points. If Republicans in the House insist upon zero tax increases, there is a larger ideological gap between House Republicans and Republican voters than there is between Republican voters and Democratic ones.

“It would be foolish, in my view, to render any overly specific predictions about how the negotiations are likely to be resolved. But I would put greater weight on scenarios that would involve House Republicans not having to violate the pledge they signed to Mr. Norquist, including an end-around like Mr. McConnell’s — or even a failure to raise the debt ceiling at all, resulting in some combination of a debt default, a government shutdown, and a Constitutional crisis.”

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“Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R., Wyo.), who co-chaired the White House’s deficit reduction panel last year, said he has lost hope the White House and Congress will be able to reach a deal to raise the debt ceiling by Aug. 2.

“‘I don’t think they’ll get it done,’ he told Washington Wire. ‘I did for a long while. Now that I see the total rigidity of the parties, if that is going to continue, there’s just no hope. I thought there would be.’”

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“‘Our problem is we made a big deal about this for three months. How many Republicans have been on TV saying, ‘I’m not going to raise the debt limit.’ You know, Mitch [McConnell] says, ‘I’m not going to raise the debt limit unless we talk about Medicare.’ And I’ve said I’m not going to raise the debt limit until we do something about spending and entitlements.’ So we’ve got nobody to blame but ourselves,’ [Lindsey] Graham told reporters after a GOP caucus lunch.

“‘We shouldn’t have said that if we didn’t mean it.’”

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“A blow-up between Obama and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor at the end of Wednesday’s White House negotiating session captured the building tension. ‘He’s frustrated, we’re all frustrated,’ Cantor said, describing the president as ‘abruptly walking out.’ Democrats took a different slant: ‘He (Obama) lit up Eric Cantor like he’s never been lit up,’ said one in the room…

“Cantor, who sparred on several occasions Wednesday with the president, complains of what he sees as a steady retreat from the higher level of savings that he anticipated would come from the Biden talks…

“Silent like two bookends throughout were McConnell and Reid. And it’s clear the two men are moving toward some variation of McConnell’s draft, sweetened perhaps with Democratic options and some savings, perhaps, to attract conservatives.”

***
“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., is working with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., on an updated version of a proposal McConnell floated on Tuesday to allow President Obama to raise the federal debt ceiling in multiple steps.

“Reid has proposed linking McConnell’s plan with spending cuts—totaling perhaps $1 trillion over 10 years—and identified talks led by Vice President Joe Biden as the likely source of those cuts, according to Senate leadership aides. When each chamber voted to approve the process allowing Obama to increase the debt ceiling, they would also vote on the cuts, the aides said.

“‘The Republican Leader’s proposal combined with ideas he and I have been discussing to force a vote on deficit-reduction proposals could go a long way toward resolving the impasse we now find ourselves in,’ Reid said Wednesday morning.”

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“There seems to be a sense on the Right that McConnell’s concession to reality was far too broad, far too soon, and far too permissive—that Obama and the Democrats must be made to account for the increase in the debt limit with significant spending cuts that will at least mitigate in some way the damage they did by piling on new debt in 2009 and 2010, and that McConnell is letting them off the hook. Fair enough; maybe he was. But the question he was attempting to answer is which will be more damaging to the GOP and conservatives generally: Raising the debt limit without making Obama pay or failing to raise the debt limit? McConnell is betting that failing to raise the debt limit, or even contributing to the general uncertainty about whether the debt limit will be raised, is worse for him and his party.

“It is, of course, a guessing game, trying to figure out who would be blamed for bad stuff. But peddling the ‘narrative’ in which the GOP gets blamed for irresponsible and unreasonable negotiating tactics has a long history of working for Democrats. McConnell’s sense that seeming to be recalcitrant about raising the debt ceiling is more perilous than the alternative is sound pessimistic politics, which takes into account that very danger.”

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“[L]et’s be serious: there is no dealing with Obama on entitlements in the next eighteen months because there is no common ground to be found with him. Sure, he talks a good game about controlling spending, but consider his actions. The country handed the keys of the kingdom to Obama and the Democrats in November 2008. At that point, CBO was already projecting that entitlement spending was going to break the bank, and what did Obama and his party do? Create another new entitlement, one designed not for long-term durability, but short-term political calculations. Since his midterm rebuke, he’s decided to channel hyper-partisan Harry Truman and run against the evil Republicans, who are threatening to kill seniors with the Ryan plan. Clearly, his focus is on his reelection, which is dependent on firing up the Democratic left once again…

“This is the party’s best bet: rein in spending as best it can in a debt ceiling deal as well as the upcoming budget, then take the battle on deficits to the November 2012 election, offering the public this position: Our entitlement system is no longer sustainable with the taxes we raise to support it; either taxes must be raised substantially or the system must be reformed; we Republicans oppose tax hikes and believe that reform of the system can be achieved without reducing benefits.”

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“I don’t trust this President… He doesn’t know how to make those cuts. He’s never had to do this before. He’s always just been one to spend other people’s money even if that money is just borrowed money or printed out of thin air. He’s never had to exercise real executive authority like that.” Click the image to watch.



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someone should inform Simpson that the person who hired him was the first person to discard his recommendations.

rob verdi on July 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM

“I don’t trust this President… He doesn’t know how to make those cuts. He’s never had to do this before. He’s always just been one to spend other people’s money even if that money is just borrowed money or printed out of thin air. He’s never had to exercise real executive authority like that.”

Money quote…!

… That’s my girl!!!

Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Taxed
Enough
Already

FloatingRock on July 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Outbreak of Palin Fantasy Syndrome on its way.

Be sure to pre-order your tickets for “The Undefeated” they’re going fast!!!

NickDeringer on July 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM

Stick to your guns, don’t let victory slip away.

Speakup on July 13, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Be sure to pre-order your tickets for “The Undefeated” they’re going fast!!!

NickDeringer on July 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM

Get ‘em while they’re hot stringing you along about their intentions!

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 10:41 PM

NickDeringer on July 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM

There’s that subtlety again.

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2011 at 10:42 PM

But peddling the ‘narrative’ in which the GOP gets blamed for irresponsible and unreasonable negotiating tactics has a long history of working for Democrats.

Yes, with the backing of the derelict and complicit, criminal main stream media. They are really the source of much of our problems as they brainwash the masses with outright lies.

mrsmwp on July 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Lindsey Graham never fails to disappoint.

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM

DickNeringer on July 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Lindsey Graham never fails to disappoint.

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM

he should run for POTUS many Mitt supporters would join his campaign.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Outbreak of Palin Fantasy Syndrome on its way.

Be sure to pre-order your tickets for “The Undefeated” they’re going fast!!!

NickDeringer on July 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM

Do you get as tired of typing this tripe as I get of reading it?

KickandSwimMom on July 13, 2011 at 10:48 PM

How about spending cuts to the tune of $1 trillion effective immediately?

No deferred spending cut will happen.

Valiant on July 13, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Will some GOP person please refer to Obama as a community organizer-in-chief? That’s all this is. He’s demanding stuff because he can, or he thinks he can. He’s not used to people saying “No!”. He used to banks, businesses, whatever cowering in fear of a protest or a boycott. Well, guess what, you turd, WE WON last November.

SouthernGent on July 13, 2011 at 10:49 PM

Palin’s interview was very presidential. Called out the GOp for their waving of the white flag, called out Obama for his failure to lead, no plan and attmept to scare our sesteemed senior citizens.

Laid out how we could go without raisng the debt limit and not defaulting. how everything needed to be paid would be paid. She had the numbers down. numbers that hannity had to read off a sheet of paper Palin knew by heart.

She placed a firm timeline of aug/sept for her decision on running and said if the gop surrenders and raises the debt limit then they need to embrace Demint’s plan.

the debt limit vote will be what Palin uses to throw her hat in the ring and run against both Obama and the gop establishment. game set match.

Mcconnell and the speaker’s actions will hand Palin the nomination….

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Why is it people feel the need to rip on one of the few people who, has not minded from day one, to call Obama out – those “on our side’ I might add… I mean I get why Liberals do it, since she stands for everything that they hate.

Hey Sarah Palin rips Obama, and supposed Conservatives, try to tear her down. Not smart.

Sharr on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Please tell me why “Don’t call my bluff, Eric” is NOT the quote of the century? Right now Sarah Palin is insignificant to this travesty of a President playing three card Monty on the American public’s well being.

Rovin on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Palin won’t win crap… she’s unelectable and she is starting to get on my nerves.

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., is working with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., on an updated version of a proposal McConnell floated

TRANSLATION: McConnell is working behind the scenes to sellout any sense of Conservative principles and governance. He should resign immediately.

As for Palin:

Are you going to run or not? Or are you just a big talker?

PappyD61 on July 13, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Do you get as tired of typing this tripe as I get of reading it?

KickandSwimMom on July 13, 2011 at 10:48 PM

DickNeriger only comments on Palin to gain favor and humor his Ace Buddies. A sad lot they are.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 10:54 PM

she is starting to get on my nerves

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

you are going to have a very bad next 10 years then.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Palin won’t win crap… she’s unelectable and she is starting to get on my nerves.

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Be honest. She’s been on your nerves since 2008.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 10:55 PM

TRANSLATION: McConnell is working behind the scenes to sellout any sense of Conservative principles and governance. He should resign immediately.

As for Perry:

Are you going to run or not? Or are you just a big talker?

PappyD61 on July 13, 2011 at 10:54 PM

fify

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Are you going to run or not? Or are you just a big talker?

PappyD61 on July 13, 2011 at 10:54 PM

But did you agree with what she said, or are you too caught up in Times Tables for Announcements?

Ronald Reagan didn’t announce until November of 1979.

Whats the big hurry? Nobody has been able to explain this to me?

Why is it so imperative that Palin or Perry jump in now?

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Oh yes, by all means lets line up behind the usual milquetoast Vanilla offerings of the Beltway GOP.

Let’s Nominate Romney: Only He Is Moderate Enough To Appeal To The Moderates!

I hope all you Romneybots around here realize that the only reason that anyone on K-Street supports Mittens at all is because he has more money than God and is willing to spend it on consultants like a 17-year old PFC in a Bangkok cathouse.

Jesus. Republicans never learn. Mittens couldn’t beat Joe Lieberman for the Presidency of Hamas. Of course, the GOP is the Stupid Party, so there is the always reasonable chance that we’ll nominate this Store Mannequin for President.

In which case, Obama will beat Romney like a rented mule. It won’t even be close.

victor82 on July 13, 2011 at 10:57 PM

I just finished watching Hannity and Greta and this debt ceiling fight is truly splitting the republican establishment and tea partiers. On Hannity I heard Ann Coulter today as well as Stuart Varney, Dana Perino and Governor John Kasich yesterday all suggesting that McConnell needs to cut a deal with Obama. Coulter went so far as to say that if the republicans don’t they’ll look bad. WTH??? On Greta, I heard Rove who also believes a deal must be cut. These are the same people who told us that the last time the debt ceiling was raised we were getting an excellent deal. You know, the one where the $300 billion in cuts ended up being about $30 billion? These people are all cut from the same Washington cloth. I’ve had it with the republicans. I don’t want to cut any deal with the democrats because we always end up with the short end of the stick!!

KickandSwimMom on July 13, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Why is it people feel the need to rip on one of the few people who, has not minded from day one, to call Obama out – those “on our side’ I might add… I mean I get why Liberals do it, since she stands for everything that they hate.

Hey Sarah Palin rips Obama, and supposed Conservatives, try to tear her down. Not smart.

Sharr on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

because their candidates don’t and they know if people listen to Palin as a serious candidate she wins by a landslide.

who would you rather have in the WH right now on this debt limit crisis. Mitt or Palin. Who’s actions would you trust more to do the correct thing for the long term good of the country? And the answer to that explains why they must tear down Palin.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 10:58 PM

you are going to have a very bad next 10 years then.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Your Palin Fantasy knows no bounds. You honestly believe she’s going to win the nomination, get elected, and get re-elected, seemingly over the wishes of over 50% of the voting public.

I wish I had that kind of delusion optimism.

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Palin won’t win crap… she’s unelectable and she is starting to get on my nerves.

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Since Huntsman basically wrote love poems to Obama, I guess I should be surprised that Huntsman supporters get testy when someone criticizes him.

Kataklysmic on July 13, 2011 at 10:59 PM

I don’t trust this President… He doesn’t know how to make those cuts. He’s never had to do this before. He’s always just been one to spend other people’s money even if that money is just borrowed money or printed out of thin air. He’s never had to exercise real executive authority like that.”

Neither has she….

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-23-palinspending_N.htm

Dreadnought on July 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Please tell me why “Don’t call my bluff, Eric” is NOT the quote of the century? Right now Sarah Palin is insignificant to this travesty of a President playing three card Monty on the American public’s well being.

Rovin on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Boy ain’t that the truth! We’re actually witnessing history as our POTUS has a melt down right before our eyes.

His remark “I’m taking this to the American people” tonight was very telling.

Knucklehead on July 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Reid has proposed linking McConnell’s plan with spending cuts—totaling perhaps $1 trillion over 10 years

Why do they always get away with talking about cuts “over 10 years”?

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM

KickandSwimMom on July 13, 2011 at 10:57 PM

I am extremely disappointed with Ann Coulter. Her true colors have certainly bled through. As for Rove & Company, I am not surprised they want a deal. Why do they care so much about Republican perception now, after destroying the Republican party over 8 years and not caring what anybody thought?

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM

“Obama holding our esteemed seniors, those who helped build this country hostage by not getting their social security checks is disgusting’
-Gov Palin

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:02 PM

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Me likey.

Mirimichi on July 13, 2011 at 11:02 PM

I read a comment on another site discussing the collapse of Europe, it went like this:

First Greece goes, then Ireland, then Italy, Spain, Portugal, and when the shock hits the USA Bachman gets sworn in.

rob verdi on July 13, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Are you going to run or not? Or are you just a big talker?

PappyD61 on July 13, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Why don’t we let her choose to tell us if, and when in her own good time? Its not up to anyone but her to set her schedule and do so, when she thinks it will help her, and her campaign best.

I’ve never seen so many people try to shut out a potential candidate whom they’re sure is loser. There’s that odd disconent agian, between actions and words. If she can’t win, “even the nomination…” then what are you so worried about? And conversely, if she can move the needle to get the nomination, surely she can do so in a general election. After all, she’s been elected before and I bet knows more about how to do then any of us posting here.

Sharr on July 13, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Glad to hear Palin taking it to Obama, and giving the RINOS willing to cave to him a little love tap as she does it.

I think I even heard a few policy specifics in there…

/s

Oh, and it’s increasingly clear that while Palin likes Bachmann, she won’t support her candidacy in the primary (did you hear the comments about needing a candidate with strong “executive experience?”)

I could see her backing Perry, but can also see her running.

Announcement in early August?

cs89 on July 13, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Neither has she….

Dreadnought on July 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Oh please. Alaska’s fiscal budget was cut drastically during the Palin years. Palin & Perry were the only 2 of a small handful of Governors to fight Obama trying to force feed states money.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Palin won’t win crap… she’s unelectable and she is starting to get on my nerves.

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

If we’re still in this same situation a month from now where she’s playing the “is she or isn’t she?” routine, then I’m right there with you. #$%& or get off the pot, Sarah.

However, it’s not even mid-July and obviously she won’t announce anything in advance of The Undefeated’s nationwide release. Give her a couple more weeks before piling on.

Doughboy on July 13, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Assume that the people who told Gallup that they wanted “mostly” cuts would prefer a 3-to-1 ratio of spending reductions to tax increases, and that those who said they wanted mostly tax increases would prefer a 3-to-1 ratio in the opposite direction. (The other choices that Gallup provided in the poll — an equal mix of tax increases and spending cuts or a deal that consisted entirely of one or the other — are straightforward to interpret.)

The average Republican voter, based on this data, wants a mix of 26 percent tax increases to 74 percent spending cuts.

That is an UNBELIEVABLY IDIOTIC way to interpret that data. Nate Silver’s grasping at straws here.

Caiwyn on July 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Had to scroll all the way down to the end of this thread to find some leadership.

VidOmnia on July 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 10:58 PM

You really don’t get it do you? did you think Palin was just a flash in the pan? and not only will she win the nomination get elected win re-election she unlike Reagan because of his illness will stay on the stage after her term like clinton and make sure the next GOP admin doesn’t go wobbly and become bush lite again.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM

I was mildly surprised at Coulter’s take on this. I say mildly because she has been steadily leaning RINO for a while now. I heard her on an interview the other day defending Bill Maher. Anyone who can defend that low-life does not deserve any of my respect.

KickandSwimMom on July 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM

As for Palin:

Are you going to run or not? Or are you just a big talker?

PappyD61 on July 13, 2011 at 10:54 PM

What’s the rush? How would anything be different (other than polls and exploding heads) if she announced today instead of August or September. She wouldn’t have any more power then than she does now. She still couldn’t enforce what she says or have any real influence on the process (other than steering the debate…which she seems to do anyhow).

I must say that this interview is one of the most impressive I’ve seen of Sarah. She wasn’t evasively kind in this interview. I think she’s had enough. Love the money quote about BO having no executive experience and not knowing what to do.

Has Bachmann done anything to affect this debate since she announced? Why, she’s the only contender that actually has a say in the process since she is IN THE HOUSE. She should take this opportunity to show her leadership skills. Where’s her proposal/bill? Where’s the Bachmann plan? She wants to lead the country, she should be chomping at the bit be a leader in this debate in the House. Especially since one of her weaknesses (that she’s already been hit on) is a lack of executive experience. Maybe she has taken a lead, but I haven’t seen it yet. I see McConnell, Boenher, and Ryan. The first two can be excused, but Ryan isn’t the Speaker or minority leader.

Pattosensei on July 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Dreadnought on July 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM

congrats you won the most stupid post of the night! here’s your sign.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:08 PM

KickandSwimMom on July 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM

I agree. It was hard to hear that defeatist tone from her.

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2011 at 11:10 PM

I was mildly surprised at Coulter’s take on this. I say mildly because she has been steadily leaning RINO for a while now. I heard her on an interview the other day defending Bill Maher. Anyone who can defend that low-life does not deserve any of my respect.

KickandSwimMom on July 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM

I don’t know anymore. The lines between allies & Enemies are so blurred as of late, I don’t know who has Americas best interest at heart, and who just wants to get along with the jerks across the aisle.

It’s like McCain’s disease is spreading though the party. If the GOP thinks they are going to just waltz into the White House beating an Anti-Obama drum, they are going to be sorely mistaken. Fiscal restraint, and spending repeals must be top priority.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:10 PM

. I heard her on an interview the other day defending Bill Maher. Anyone who can defend that low-life does not deserve any of my respect.

KickandSwimMom on July 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Coulter dated Bill Maher. She was on his show last Friday and made a fool out of herself.

Knucklehead on July 13, 2011 at 11:11 PM

Has Bachmann done anything to affect this debate since she announced? Why, she’s the only contender that actually has a say in the process since she is IN THE HOUSE. She should take this opportunity to show her leadership skills. Where’s her proposal/bill? Where’s the Bachmann plan? She wants to lead the country, she should be chomping at the bit be a leader in this debate in the House.

Pattosensei on July 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM

I’ve been asking the same thing. To her credit though, she had quite a good interview on Greta tonight – though she deal steal the ‘President can’t prioritize’ from Palin when she seemed not sure what to say.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Yes, with the backing of the derelict and complicit, criminal main stream media. They are really the source of much of our problems as they brainwash the masses with outright lies.

mrsmwp on July 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM

And only one Republican is fighting them.

VidOmnia on July 13, 2011 at 11:13 PM

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

You seem to be praying for a plane carrying Obama, Biden, Romney, Perry, Cain, Pawlenty, Bachmann, Donald Trump and Lou Dobbs to crash in the Rocky Mountains somewhere, because otherwise she’s going to remain a private citizen.

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:14 PM

I wish Sarah Palin would declare but hey I think America has a debt problem that people should be more concerned about that when Palin is going to get in.

The fact is she is getting into the race and no actual votes are going to be conducted until next year.

It’s still 0-0 for everybody.

technopeasant on July 13, 2011 at 11:15 PM

don’t know anymore. The lines between allies & Enemies are so blurred as of late, I don’t know who has Americas best interest at heart, and who just wants to get along with the jerks across the aisle.

It’s like McCain’s disease is spreading though the party. If the GOP thinks they are going to just waltz into the White House beating an Anti-Obama drum, they are going to be sorely mistaken. Fiscal restraint, and spending repeals must be top priority.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:10 PM

it’s always been there. It’s just that certain people are making us aware of it. Before we would have had ann and Rove speak and that would have been the stanard gop line. now with the Tea party and its leaders on the stage we have a diffenret opinion.

the gop establishment is showing daily they are closer to the liberals than to the people.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:15 PM

Like Palin or not, it’s hard to argue against that quote of hers. If more people realized that, PBHO might actually resign from lack of support.

Bishop on July 13, 2011 at 11:16 PM

This is the party’s best bet: rein in spending as best it can in a debt ceiling deal as well as the upcoming budget, then take the battle on deficits to the November 2012 election

Didn’t they say at the budget talks a few months ago that the REAL time to fight is with the debt ceiling?

You can only kick the can down the road so long until you get hit by a bus.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:16 PM

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:14 PM

I’m sorry you have been blinded by the Orwell media.

you should get that looked at.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:17 PM

So she said “LEGALLY”…

mmmmm, I guess that’s in reference to the Statute of Limitations issue in Alaska that has been mentioned briefly here before.

So maybe she is going to run.

If so……….count me in.

PALIN 2012!

PappyD61 on July 13, 2011 at 11:17 PM

You seem to be praying for a plane carrying Obama, Biden, Romney, Perry, Cain, Pawlenty, Bachmann, Donald Trump and Lou Dobbs to crash in the Rocky Mountains somewhere, because otherwise she’s going to remain a private citizen.

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:14 PM

They don’t need a plane, most have already crashed and burned…LOL

idesign on July 13, 2011 at 11:17 PM

You seem to be praying for a plane carrying Obama, Biden, Romney, Perry, Cain, Pawlenty, Bachmann, Donald Trump and Lou Dobbs to crash in the Rocky Mountains somewhere, because otherwise she’s going to remain a private citizen.

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:14 PM

What a terrible thing to say, or joke about.

Change your filter, because the one filtering the crap out of your decision making is all clogged up.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:17 PM

I also liked Sarah’s comment on 0bama as the POTUS and can’t prioritize spending. She keeps hitting him with jabs, upper cuts, and round houses. The knock-out punch will be delivered in 2012.

Mirimichi on July 13, 2011 at 11:18 PM

The public needs to see the graphs of debt and deficit and interest payments and revenue and spending and projected growth. Then they will see with their own eyes how unsustainable this all is. Maybe then we’ll begin to live within our means.

Paul-Cincy on July 13, 2011 at 11:18 PM

So she said “LEGALLY”…

I guess that’s in reference to the Statute of Limitations issue in Alaska that has been mentioned briefly here before.

PappyD61 on July 13, 2011 at 11:17 PM

I think it’s more that by law, you have to submit certain forms and crap by certain deadlines if you are planning on being on the ballot. I don’t know any of the specific dates and keep telling myself to research some and find out but just haven’t yet.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:19 PM

though she deal steal the ‘President can’t prioritize’ from Palin when she seemed not sure what to say.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:12 PM

the more bachmann does this crap the more people will see her as en empty suit unable to make up her own talking points. As her baggage grows she will be increasingly laughed off the stage.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:19 PM

What a terrible thing to say, or joke about.

Change your filter, because the one filtering the crap out of your decision making is all clogged up.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Call your mommy if you can’t handle it. I confront absurdity with absurdity. If I wrote this

You really don’t get it do you? did you think [] was just a flash in the pan? and not only will [] win the nomination get elected win re-election [] unlike Reagan because of his illness will stay on the stage after [] term like clinton and make sure the next GOP admin doesn’t go wobbly and become bush lite again.

about my favored candidate I’d be ashamed of myself abjectly.

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2011 at 10:44 PM

lol!..Where is Grahamesty’s buddy the “Maverick”?..:)

Dire Straits on July 13, 2011 at 11:21 PM

What’s the rush? How would anything be different (other than polls and exploding heads) if she announced today instead of August or September.

Has Bachmann done anything to affect this debate since she announced? Why, she’s the only contender that actually has a say in the process since she is IN THE HOUSE. She should take this opportunity to show her leadership skills. Where’s her proposal/bill? Where’s the Bachmann plan?

Pattosensei on July 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM

The polls actually are different now compared to a month ago. Palin’s losing support to other contenders, particularly Bachmann. That’s not to say some or even many of those voters wouldn’t swing back into her camp should she announce her candidacy, but the longer she waits, the more difficult a task that’ll be. Her supporters can talk all day long about volunteers on the ground waiting for her to get in, but unless she’s got a campaign staff working behind the scenes that no one knows about and she’s been secretly talking to donors, then she’s already behind the eight ball compared to others like Mittens.

Bachmann has announced her intentions regarding the vote on the debt ceiling(assuming there even is one). As for why she doesn’t have a plan to deal with it, she doesn’t have a seat at the negotiating table. Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell are in charge there. If you’re gonna fault Bachmann for not being there, you’d have to do likewise with every other GOP contender.

Doughboy on July 13, 2011 at 11:21 PM

I also liked Sarah’s comment on 0bama as the POTUS and can’t prioritize spending.

Mirimichi on July 13, 2011 at 11:18 PM

And it makes sense with his community organizing in Chicago where you set up your Utopian project, apply for a grant for the full amount, pull a few strings (this is Chicago we’re talking about), badda bing, badda boom, you’ve got the full amount of cash. Never need to cut and pare from the ideal because you can’t raise enough cash.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Obama is loving to use the name REAGAN to try and cover his Marxist/Socialist ideology but……let’s ask the Conservative Reagan what he thinks……

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1656939.ece

PappyD61 on July 13, 2011 at 11:22 PM

“The average Republican voter, based on this data, wants a mix of 26 percent tax increases to 74 percent spending cuts.”

Nate Silver

This is statistical gibberish. Those numbers mean no such thing.

Jaibones on July 13, 2011 at 11:23 PM

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Call your daddy if you can’t handle it. You think If Palin wins the nomination and eleection she would lose an re-election bid? That’s just wishful dreaming on your part.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:24 PM

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Yes, I think I heard her mention something about those deadlines in earlier interviews.

She’s just laying out the “well, if you want to run you have to file by certain dates, and build your infrastructure” but isn’t going to be pushed into declaring her intentions based on a media timetable, IMO.

cs89 on July 13, 2011 at 11:24 PM

CUDA

Metro on July 13, 2011 at 11:24 PM

Barack Obama: In your heart you know he’s nuts.

Bishop on July 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM

the more bachmann does this crap the more people will see her as en empty suit unable to make up her own talking points. As her baggage grows she will be increasingly laughed off the stage.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Not sure if you saw the Greta interview, but if you did, you’ve gotta give credit where it’s due – overall, it was a strong performance. Just like it’s disingenuous when ABPers can’t acknowledge Palin’s strengths, it’s no difference if Palinista’s do the same with other candidates.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM

the gop establishment is showing daily they are closer to the liberals than to the people.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:15 PM

I think you hit the nail on the head. The GOP is running against the Liberals and the Tea Party. Sometimes I think Rove & Company fight the TEA Party harder than they do the Obamacrats.

I feel that there are two distinct factions within the GOP fighting for control. The Reagan Conservatives vs. the Bush “Compassionate Conservative” Republicans.

It’s interesting to see who is siding with which faction.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM

Neither has she….

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-23-palinspending_N.htm

Dreadnought on July 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM

I’ve disagreed with you before without thinking you were an idiot. That’s changed.

Did you bother reading the article you linked to?

I’ll save you some of the trouble; check the 4th and 5th paragraphs:

Palin tried to restrain legislative spending, pare back earmark requests and steer money into reserve funds, he said. He acknowledged, however, that Palin had to sign off on numerous pet projects in legislative districts.

“Sure, there are some political realities,” McAllister said.

Palin used her line-item veto power to strike nearly half a billion dollars in spending items in 2007 and 2008.

Sounds like she has never cut spending any more than O’Bama, right?

rwenger43 on July 13, 2011 at 11:26 PM

I love that woman. she cuts to the chase like nobody.

Be sure to pre-order your tickets for “The Undefeated” they’re going fast!!!

NickDeringer on July 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM

Get ‘em while they’re hot stringing you along about their intentions!

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Sigh. In some cities they are going quite fast, yes. But the movie is not a campaign commercial. As far as it is concerned, it doesn’t matter if she declares or not. the fact that she fights and won’t give up is what matters, and we need more congresspeople who get that message.

alwaysfiredup on July 13, 2011 at 11:27 PM

about my favored candidate I’d be ashamed of myself abjectly.

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Impossible. You have no shame.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:27 PM

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM

the Reagan/bush dichotomy will always be with us. Maybe someday they’ll call it the Palin/Romney division. But it’s the same thing: a cultural schism in America.

alwaysfiredup on July 13, 2011 at 11:28 PM

anyone worried about the markets tommorrow?

will talk of QE3 save the markets form a moody’s downgrade? It will be interesting….

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:28 PM

Barack Obama: In your heart you know he’s nuts.

Bishop on July 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM

Ringing endorsement for Obama:

A shining wit!

-William A. Spooner

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:29 PM

It’s like McCain’s disease is spreading though the party. If the GOP thinks they are going to just waltz into the White House beating an Anti-Obama drum, they are going to be sorely mistaken. Fiscal restraint, and spending repeals must be top priority.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:10 PM

I’m coming to the conclusion, as I stated above, that the Washington establishment are all cut from the same cloth. They all live and depend upon government for their survival. I liken it to a royal court in the 17th-18th centuries. You had the royals (president, congress) and all the courtiers (lobbyists, pundits, journalists, etc.) who hung around trying to curry favor with the royals so as to gain some of their own power and wealth. Above all, though, the royals and the courtiers were aware that they depended upon the labor of the lowly masses, and they worked together to be sure they kept the masses down so they could retain their power and privilege.

KickandSwimMom on July 13, 2011 at 11:30 PM

The polls actually are different now compared to a month ago. Palin’s losing support to other contenders, particularly Bachmann.

Doughboy on July 13, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Not all polls. PPP (Daily Kos polling firm) from North Carolina came up with this:

Palin’s net favorable rating has improved by nine points since June while Pawlenty’s, Cain’s, and Mitt “peacetime” Romney’s net favorable ratings have fallen by nine, four, and six points, respectively.

Palin’s net favorable rating among independents has increased by 37 points since June.

She has a better a net favorable rating among independents than Michele Bachmann or Mitt “peacetime” Romney.

She has turned a 16-point deficit among independents into a 13-point lead in one month.

Among McCain/Palin voters, the Governor has a net favorable rating of +40 while Bachmann and Romney have net favorable ratings of +15 and +20, respectively.

Among Republicans, the Governor has a net favorable rating of +37 while Bachmann and Romney have net favorable ratings of +10 and +27, respectively.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:30 PM

For those who care: My very first blog post, about (natch) Palin and The Undefeated.

alwaysfiredup on July 13, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Not sure if you saw the Greta interview, but if you did, you’ve gotta give credit where it’s due – overall, it was a strong performance. Just like it’s disingenuous when ABPers can’t acknowledge Palin’s strengths, it’s no difference if Palinista’s do the same with other candidates.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM

when Palin starts copying bachmann’s talking points I will call her out about it.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Impossible. You have no shame.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:27 PM

Aren’t you too busy assigning all of the people supporting candidates other than Palin to the “Bush wing” of the party?

They aren’t going to exile themselves, you know.

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Palin nails him again. Repeatedly. All of you Palin-doubters waiting for an official announcement are playing yesterday’s game, like most generals who prepare for the last war not the next one. Game on!

SleeplessinChicago on July 13, 2011 at 11:32 PM

Excellent Palin interview.

greeneyedconservative on July 13, 2011 at 11:32 PM

Outbreak of Palin Fantasy Syndrome on its way.

Be sure to pre-order your tickets for “The Undefeated” they’re going fast!!!

NickDeringer on July 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM

What part of “I don’t trust this President…He doesn’t know how to make those cuts” do you disagree with?

Or, reverse it: what part of “John [McCain} wants to take a hammer to the Federal budget, but I want to use a scalpel” do you believe?

rwenger43 on July 13, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Palin won’t win crap… she’s unelectable and she is starting to get on my nerves.

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Trust me, after witnessing the eagerness to surrender from the Senate RINOs, Palin not winning if she chooses to run will rather be the SHOCK of the century.

The GOP Establishment/RINOs should just keep mouthing off and they continue to give us the umpteenth reason why we should kick all of them out.

Notice the so-called frontrunner, Romney, has up till date not even bothered to weigh in? Wonder why we keep sayin “No more RINOs!!”?

TheRightMan on July 13, 2011 at 11:34 PM

feel that there are two distinct factions within the GOP fighting for control. The Reagan Conservatives vs. the Bush “Compassionate Conservative” Republicans.

It’s interesting to see who is siding with which faction.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM

yes it has been going on for decades. the difference this time is there is a reaganite on the central stage getting air time and notice. The usual way the RINO wing controlled the party was to make sure no Reaganite got to this stage. limit the voices and you control the party. Now not so much…

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:34 PM

victor82 on July 13, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Always enjoy your excellent assessments.

rrpjr on July 13, 2011 at 11:34 PM

when Palin starts copying bachmann’s talking points I will call her out about it.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Well, you know how annoying it is when ABPers refuse to acknowledge the genuine strengths of Palin, but whatever dude. It’s a free country. Your credibility is yours to protect or squander.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM

Notice the so-called frontrunner, Romney, has up till date not even bothered to weigh in? Wonder why we keep sayin “No more RINOs!!”?

TheRightMan on July 13, 2011 at 11:34 PM

very good points. the more we see of the RINO wing the more the TEa party grows.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 11:36 PM

Aren’t you too busy assigning all of the people supporting candidates other than Palin to the “Bush wing” of the party?

They aren’t going to exile themselves, you know.

KingGold on July 13, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Gosh you get whiny at times.

I am not assigning all people supporting other candidates other than Palin to the “Bush wing” of the party. I am referring to supporters here, pundits, & Republicans currently serving who want to cut Deals with Obama to save their own skins, rather than make a hard decision.

Somebody has to be the adult in the ruling class of overindulgent children.

portlandon on July 13, 2011 at 11:40 PM

Palin won’t win crap… she’s unelectable and she is starting to get on my nerves.

TimeTraveler on July 13, 2011 at 10:53 PM

A plaintive cry echoes across the hollows; seeking solace and finding none. :)

Geochelone on July 13, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Not sure if you saw the Greta interview, but if you did, you’ve gotta give credit where it’s due – overall, it was a strong performance. Just like it’s disingenuous when ABPers can’t acknowledge Palin’s strengths, it’s no difference if Palinista’s do the same with other candidates.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM

She did well on Hannity last night too, but I don’t give too much credence to many of Hannity’s softball interviews.

It’s a shame what some of the Palin supporters are doing to both Bachmann and Perry here.

Knucklehead on July 13, 2011 at 11:43 PM

Scott Conroy:

“Palin Points to Late-Summer Presidential Decision”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/07/13/palin_points_to_late_summer_presidential_decision_110572.html

idesign on July 13, 2011 at 11:43 PM

we Republicans oppose tax hikes and believe that reform of the system can be achieved without reducing benefits.”

Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on July 13, 2011 at 11:44 PM

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