Oh my: Angry Obama storms out of debt-ceiling negotiations; Update: “This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this”

posted at 8:25 pm on July 13, 2011 by Allahpundit

Between this and the Moody’s news, tomorrow ought to be fun on Wall Street. Per Slublog, remember during Campaign ’08 when this guy’s big selling point was his “first-class temperament”?

Also, am I right in thinking that the only two times O has walked out on a meeting are today and when he met with Bibi Netanyahu back in March of last year? That’s quite a record of indignation, champ. You really know how to get tough with the enemy.

Cantor said he told the president that the two sides remain so far apart at this point that he doubted they could get to $2.5 trillion in cuts (to match the debt increase requested by the administration, enough to get through the 2012 election) given the time available. President Obama has said he will not sign any increase to the debt ceiling less than that amount, and Cantor had previously insisted that the House would vote no more than one time to increase the debt limit. Cantor said he was willing to abandon his position in order to allow some kind of short-term measure to increase the debt limit and reassure credit markets while negotiations continue, and asked the president if he would be willing to consider this option.

At this point, Cantor explained, the president became “very agitated” and said he had “sat here long enough,” that “Ronald Reagan wouldn’t sit here like this” and “something’s got to give.” Obama then told Republicans they either needed to compromise on their insistence on a dollar for dollar ratio of spending cuts to debt increase or agree to a “grand bargain” including massive tax increases. Before walking out of the room, Cantor said, the president told him: “Eric, don’t call my bluff. I’m going to the American people with this.” He then “shoved back” and said “I’ll see you tomorrow.”

The Democratic spin on what happened is that Cantor “rudely” interrupted The One mid-finger-wag and he got huffy and walked out. As for what he means by “going to the American people,” I don’t want to get my hopes up but we might be in store for another 45-minute lecture tomorrow morning about corporate jets. As an ironic gloss on this drama, read Chuck Todd’s take on how, in principle, Obama and Boehner aren’t all that far apart. If O publicly committed to a truly significant concession, like means-testing for Medicare or raising the eligibility age for Social Security, then maybe the GOP could be persuaded to take another look at letting the Bush tax cuts lapse for the wealthy. But since he won’t, they can’t. Said Boehner to a gaggle of reporters this afternoon, “Dealing with them the last couple months has been like dealing with Jell-o.”

Before he threw his tantrum, Obama also reportedly told Republicans today that Friday’s the deadline for deciding whether both sides should continue to pursue a real deficit-reduction deal or whether they should shift to looking for some sort of fallback plan a la McConnell to avoid default. So, the good news: The first stage of the debt-ceiling drama will kinda sorta be over in the next 48 hours. The bad news: Three more weeks of the next stage to come, guys. Three. More. Weeks.

Update: To steal a line from our Greenroom contributor Karl, here’s more of what the “adult in the room” had to say before he, er, left the room:

“This process is confirming what the American people think is the worst about Washington,” the president said. “Everyone is more interested in posturing, political position and protecting their base than in solving problems.”…

“I have shown enormous willingness to compromise and have taken huge heat for it,” he said, “but my responsibility is to the American people and there comes a point when I need to say, ‘Enough.’”

“It cannot all be on us,” the president said, arguing that Republicans need to give on the revenue side of things as Democrats are willing to do so on spending cuts.

Weigel also clarifies the terms of the actual dispute between O and Cantor. Cantor says they can get a deal for $1.5 trillion in cuts through the House. Problem is, the GOP’s vowed not to raise the debt ceiling by more than the amount in total cuts and a $1.5 trillion debt-ceiling hike won’t get us past the election next year. That makes The Perpetual Campaigner unhappy, so either the GOP will have to step back from its vow or O will have to agree to deal with the debt ceiling again — just a few months before election day, when the incentives on both sides to hold out will be even greater than they are now.

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Somehow I think when he practiced this “spontaneous walk-out” in front of his handlers, Valerie Jarrett told him – One More Time with Feeling!

Staged BS.

batterup on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Anyone notice that ever since Obama got involved in these meetings personally it has all gone to hell. He comes in insisting on his “big deal” and raising taxes and totally blows up the negotiations.

JohnInCA on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

“Thank you, President Obama.”
-crr6*

* If McCain were President in the exact same circumstance, crr6 would be here lecturing people on the meaning of temperament, civility, maturity, how Obama’s superior temperament and negotiation skillz, coupled with his obviously superior intellect, would have been useful here, etc.

Good Lt on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

If your enemy is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him.”

- Sun Tzu

thirteen28 on July 13, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Doesn’t work if everyone on your side is of phlegmatic temperament

rrpjr on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

If you don’t mind me asking, how is she doing?

Chip on July 13, 2011 at 8:48 PM

no clue chip, haven’t heard anything. I am not even sure my mom made it down there.

upinak on July 13, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Okay, just thought I’d ask, you’re still in our prayers.

Chip on July 13, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Interesting that under Obama we are as war like as ever . We still have Gitmo open. We are using drones at a level that would earn a AAAAA Hitler rating for G.Bush . Yet we have the gushing crr wondering why I call her a lapdog. Crr you are pretty dim.

Hey again tell us about how we on the right came up with that fancy name for Obama’s “Fast and Furious” program again.

CW on July 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM

The Luntz group is over President Jackass, it appears.

Philly on July 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Baxter Greene on July 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

You’re a machine. Great stuff.

rrpjr on July 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM

crr6 on July 13, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Seriously, I know you are young but can you really be thankful of the amount of money spent (between TARP & Porkulous) with zero gains? And how can you, in good conscience, suggest that we borrow more and more money without cutting spending?

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Cindy,

Always, always remember….

Liberalism is a mental disease. You cannot expect the mentally ill to think rationally. Crr6 thinks we can borrow and spend forever. I know it’s crazy. You know it’s crazy. But to her it makes perfectly good sense. Trying to convince her is like trying to convince a paranoid schizophrenic that everyone isn’t out to get him.

angryed on July 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM

* If McCain were President in the exact same circumstance, crr6 would be here lecturing people on the meaning of temperament, civility, maturity, how Obama’s superior temperament and negotiation skillz, coupled with his obviously superior intellect, would have been useful here, etc.

Good Lt on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Bullseye

CW on July 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Why is the term revenues being repeated by those media outlets on the right? Say it with me, they are taxes.

The Democrats focus grouped the term revenue increase and it went over well, so they keep using it.

But we need to use the correct terminology-tax increases.

texasconserv on July 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Hannity has made it official…

“President Cry Baby!”

Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM

An Obamanaiton of a comprimise: “Whaaaaa. My way or the highway!” So what else is new?

This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this”

Be still my heart. If only.

IrishEyes on July 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Boehner is the good cop. Cantor is the bad cop. Obama is the perp.

KW64 on July 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM

The little jackass attorney wannabe is still quiet.

From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

CW on July 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Why is the term revenue increases being repeated by those media outlets on the right? Say it with me, they are taxes.

The Democrats focus grouped the term revenue increase and it went over well, so they keep using it.

But we need to use the correct terminology-tax increases.

texasconserv on July 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM

The Luntz group is over President Jackass, it appears.

Philly on July 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Pretty much. Still a couple of deranged folks there, but there’s still time for recovery and they do seem to be making progress.

IrishEyes on July 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM

“It cannot all be on us,” the president said,

Says the leader of the party that has presented no plan or presented a credible budget in almost 800 days.


Boehner told Bret Baier on Fox News Channe
l:

I think it is time for the president to put his plan on the table. Let the American people see just what the president is proposing. You can’t go out there and talk about some $4-trillion agreement to substantially change the fiscal situation here in Washington without any facts.

What kind of an idiot takes a President seriously that does not have the intelligence or leadership ability to offer their own solutions.

Baxter Greene on July 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Tell you what. Keep Obama out of the meetings, and let Cantor and Boehner deal with Pelosi and Hoyer. Then let the Crats worry about Obama. He will be their problem.

paul1149 on July 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM

angryed on July 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM

I wasn’t expecting to convince her but I sure would like to know how that mind works. I have three young adult children and their minds don’t work that way. But then, they all have pay checks and can see that socialism doesn’t work.

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2011 at 9:54 PM

An AK-47 recovered at the murder site of US Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry has been identified as one of the rifles ATF agents permitted to be sold to a Mexican straw buyer and ‘illegally’ trafficked into Mexico. There are also links between Fast and Furious and the weapon used to kill ICE Agent Jaime Zapata.-Foreignpolicyblogs.com

God bless you, Mr. President.

crr6 on July 13, 2011 at 9:19 PM

CW on July 13, 2011 at 9:54 PM

“Thank you, President Obama.”
-crr6*

Obama is an incompetent spoiled brat and is destroying the country to serve his egotistical sense of self importance. It’s time to call him, let the chips fall where they may and suffer if necessary.

rplat on July 13, 2011 at 9:54 PM

At this point, Cantor explained, the president became “very agitated” and said he had “sat here long enough,” that “Ronald Reagan wouldn’t sit here like this” and “something’s got to give.”

Sooooh, in a nutshell, Barry thinks Cantor is the enemy, kinda like Gorbachev.

Buy Danish on July 13, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Obama has never had to do this before. He doesn’t handle governing very well. He wants to dictate. Make edicts. Sign executive orders. Agitate. Seize things. Get his way.

He doesn’t do this negotiating thing very well. It’s so beneath him. He is the one, you know. God doesn’t give things up, why should he? The President/Citizen of the World or whatever just arrives and conquers. He speaks to adoring crowds who chant his name. He has children sing songs about him. Women faint at his presence. People build statues of him. He travels the world and see kings and queens and world leaders. he speaks to the United Nations. With a word he can start a war and kill hundreds or thousand by ordering a drone strike. He has the power to launch nuclear weapons. To start WWIII or to snuff out some tiny little country and to choose who lives or dies through one of his many soon to be death panels.

And yet, here he is being confronted by these little annoying Republicans, his enemies, who, not long ago, he could just shut the door on and flick them off with a “We Won” finger to their face.
Reality is suddenly creeping into his fantasy world. He has deluded himself the past 3 years that it will never end. He’ll always get his way. He’ll always be President, maybe someday dictator for life. But this meeting now, these negotiations, there’s something more to these meetings that is gnawing at his brain. Something more sinister and evil that is disturbing his world…. that they are a sign of something that is coming, the realization that 2012 is real. That one day in the not too distant future one of these Republicans, one of his enemies, may actually be President, and he won’t be.
It is not always and easy or safe thing to wake a narcissist from his delusions.

One of the most important symptoms of pathological narcissism (the Narcissistic Personality Disorder) is grandiosity. Grandiose fantasies (megalomaniac delusions of grandeur) permeate every aspect of the narcissist’s personality. They are the reason that the narcissist feels entitled to special treatment which is typically incommensurate with his real accomplishments. The Grandiosity Gap is the abyss between the narcissist’s self-image (as reified by his False Self) and reality.

When Narcissistic Supply is deficient, the narcissist de-compensates and acts out in a variety of ways. Narcissists often experience psychotic micro-episodes during therapy and when they suffer narcissistic injuries in a life crisis. But can the narcissist “go over the edge”?

http://www.statssheet.com/articles/article33889.html

Pathological narcissism is a spectrum of disorders. People suffering from the full blown, all-pervasive, personality distorting mental health disorder known as the Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) – are, indeed, more prone to violence than others.

http://samvak.tripod.com/9.html

JellyToast on July 13, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Later crr you’re just a useful idiot.

CW on July 13, 2011 at 9:55 PM

You’re a machine. Great stuff.

rrpjr on July 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Just following your lead.
Never has this country seen such incompetence and failure coming from the White House.

The people still praising this failed community organizer would have fit in quite well in Jim Jones “People’s Temple”.

Baxter Greene on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

So let me get this straight….if the GOP calls his bluff, it will bring his presidency down? Sounds like a plan.

ElectricPhase on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Hey again tell us about how we on the right came up with that fancy name for Obama’s “Fast and Furious” program again.

CW on July 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Don’t forget “Operation Castaway”, were they watching reruns of Gilligan’s Island at the WH or something?

Chip on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

I’m not dissing anyone that writes for HotAir so much as I’m complimenting AllahP…

I’ve been coming to HotAir and reading a lot…for quite a while…perhaps since the beginning when it was cool vids with Malkin in them…

Lately, I’ve been glad to open and read an AllahP post. They have gotten better over time and are always well done. I’m just sayin’….

As far as this post…as Krauthammer says…another round of Amateur Hour with this administration…sheesh.

bridgetown on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Baxter Greene on July 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

You’re a machine. Great stuff.

rrpjr on July 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM

ditto! +1

Rovin on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

texasconserv on July 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Same reason illegal aliens became undocumented immigrants.

Read George Orwell’s classic essay, “Politics and the English Language.” The 20th Century prophet saw political correctness and the distortion of reality coming long before anyone else.

Wethal on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

With all due repsect.. Mr President GFY..this we / us sh-t is just that SH-T.. It’s all on us. We increase revenue as you suggest not only will jobs be lost but we as customers, shareholders and owenrs of any sort of retirement fund will either pay more, lose more or have less and debt will continue to rise

Do the anatomically impossible to yourself, cuz I’m tired of you doing it to me..

theblacksheepwasright on July 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM

It’s 14th Amendment time..

Viator on July 13, 2011 at 9:59 PM

He’s so full of it. Talk about dramatics, I’m sure the media will run with it too.

Dash on July 13, 2011 at 9:59 PM

ditto! +1

Rovin on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Thanks…
Now if we can just get Obama to explain how the fact that we have lost millions of jobs since he signed the stimulus is proof of it’s success.

Baxter Greene on July 13, 2011 at 9:59 PM

Palin to hannity:

says she does not trust this president. we should not trust this president. This president has not earned our trust.

McConnells plan is stupid in so many words.

No reason to raise the debt limit. But the sheep in congress will raise it so she would vote no if she was in congress but if it passes (which thanks to the sheep it will) we should embrace Demint’s plan of cap cut and balance.

she seee no candidates out there who she can support at this time. she will decide by aug/sept.

Told Hannity his plan was stupid (in so many words).

very good interview.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 10:00 PM

“This process is confirming what the American people think is the worst about Washington,” the president said. “Everyone is more interested in posturing, political position and protecting their base than in solving problems.”…

Massive projection or just a total lack of an irony sensor?

BKennedy on July 13, 2011 at 10:01 PM

FINALLY! Bachmann has her hair up! HOTNESS!!

SouthernGent on July 13, 2011 at 10:01 PM

texasconserv on July 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Same reason illegal aliens became undocumented immigrants.

Read George Orwell’s classic essay, “Politics and the English Language.” The 20th Century prophet saw political correctness and the distortion of reality coming long before anyone else.

Wethal on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

I had my son read it when he was a senior in high school. Here’s a link:

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

My favorite lines:

The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one’s real and one’s declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink.

INC on July 13, 2011 at 10:03 PM

* If McCain were President in the exact same circumstance, crr6 would be here lecturing people on the meaning of temperament, civility, maturity, how Obama’s superior temperament and negotiation skillz, coupled with his obviously superior intellect, would have been useful here, etc.

Good Lt on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Yep. And on that note, they told me that if I voted for McCain …

Firefly_76 on July 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM

It’s 14th Amendment time..

Viator on July 13, 2011 at 9:59 PM

This is where this is all going folks. This has been his plan all along. The nuclear option.

Pull the trigger Barry, I dare you.

Knucklehead on July 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM

CWForFreedom,

What do you think your comments make you look like?

crr6 on July 13, 2011 at 9:29 PM

1. CW =/= CWForFreedom.
2. Weak retort, even for you.

massrighty on July 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM

At this point, Cantor explained, the president became “very agitated” and said he had “sat here long enough,” that “Ronald Reagan wouldn’t sit here like this” and “something’s got to give.”

*COUGH* um, REALLY? Teh WON is comparing himself to Reagan now?

*Cough*

44Magnum on July 13, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Tell you what. Keep Obama out of the meetings, and let Cantor and Boehner deal with Pelosi and Hoyer. Then let the Crats worry about Obama. He will be their problem.

paul1149 on July 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM

I’ve been thinking about Dingy’s part in this, which appears to be minimal. Is part of little Bammie’s frustration the fact that they are laying so low? Shouldn’t the democratically controlled Senate be running interference for little Bammie?

Granted, Dingy is no mental giant, and I can’t see him going toe to toe with people like Cantor and Ryan. He’s more like that guy always shuffling down the hall at the old folks home, trying to get out the locked door. But is there any democratic in the Senate that should be representing the dem side in these meetings?

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM

Boy, I tell ya what….Bachmann may convert me yet.*

*Maybe.

SouthernGent on July 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM

So let me get this straight….if the GOP calls his bluff, it will bring his presidency down? Sounds like a plan.

ElectricPhase on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Problem: The Republicans are running scared and will NOT call his bluff.

chumpThreads on July 13, 2011 at 10:09 PM

If McCain were President in the exact same circumstance, crr6 would be here lecturing people on the meaning of temperament, civility, maturity, how Obama’s superior temperament and negotiation skillz, coupled with his obviously superior intellect, would have been useful here, etc.

Good Lt on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

If McCain was president and acting like Obama I would be calling him out too. I’m tired of these politicans more worried about electiosn than about the good of the country. Just tired of the R vs D fight. I want a leader that places the good of the country and her citizens first for once.

unseen on July 13, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Boy, I tell ya what….Bachmann may convert me yet.*

*Maybe.

SouthernGent on July 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM

She did a nice job there on Greta.

IrishEi on July 13, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Nah, cr isn’t as stupid as she pretends to be. But she is a troll. And saying stuff like Bless You Mr. President is classic trolling.

angryed on July 13, 2011 at 9:29 PM

the adults are in charge

/getalife

Missy on July 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Community Organizer in da house! Rep-PRESENT-ing

EPIC FAIL 0bama

shanimal on July 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Lord have mercy. This is the man we’ve entrusted to negotiate treaties and he’s acting like a kindergartener.

Greek Fire on July 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Baxter Greene on July 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Thanks, Baxter!

It’s amazing how the 2012 ads just write themselves with Obama’s record. The GOP should be trumpeting this RIGHT NOW!!! Blasting it on TV and radio ads every day fom now until Novemeber 2012. That would ensure an Obama loss irrespective of whom we place on the GOP’s ticket!

And end the ads with Obama’s “… time to eat our peas” statement.

TheRightMan on July 13, 2011 at 10:13 PM

She did a nice job there on Greta.

IrishEi on July 13, 2011 at 10:11 PM

She did a great job on Hannity last night too

Knucklehead on July 13, 2011 at 10:13 PM

if they pull the 14thA, and Bernanke does QE3, can anyone tell me that we’re living in anything remotely resembling a democracy, let alone a constitutional republic?

Firefly_76 on July 13, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Time to bring this mess down.

No increase of the debt limit. Let the August 2 deadline pass.

Then have the House GOP pass bills, one by one, ordering Obama to make certain kinds of payments with the revenue the government gets, and get out in front of the camera to show that the GOP is trying to keep the entitlements going, and that Reid/Obama are being intransigent and preventing Granny from getting her check.

Revenant on July 13, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Venezuela is looking for a spoiled thug.

Schadenfreude on July 13, 2011 at 10:15 PM

As usual, with Obama, it’s all about Obama!

Never mind the economy, never mind all the jobless, never mind all the small businesses having to layoff people or being forced to closed altogether, never mind any of that.

It’s all about OBAMA!

It’s all about what is best for OBAMA!

And to hell with everyone and everything else!

Enough is enough!

Impeach this assclown now!

pilamaye on July 13, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Kindergartens are indignant.

Schadenfreude on July 13, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Its only a matter of time before the President caves.

If the Republicans hang tough.

Speakup on July 13, 2011 at 10:17 PM

TOTUS the Toddler Throws Terrible Tantrum.

News at ten.

viking01 on July 13, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Oh, BTW, what do the Krauthammers, Frums, and other establishment idiots have to say about Obama’s “first class tempermant” now?

thirteen28 on July 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

That was the point of my post; but my segue was not the best for failing to play off the “first class temperament” tag line. LINK

Mine sounded like an off tangent attack on CK but it was for reasons which might be clearer now from your post.

Geochelone on July 13, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Seriously, I know you are young but can you really be thankful of the amount of money spent (between TARP & Porkulous) with zero gains? And how can you, in good conscience, suggest that we borrow more and more money without cutting spending?

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Cindy,

1) I (and pretty much anyone outside the confines of the Hotair commentariat) don’t agree there have been “zero” gains from TARP and the Stimulus bill. Why’s that? Because there is almost no objective evidence supporting your position, and a wealth of evidence suggesting both of those measures helped the US economy a great deal (especially TARP).

2) I don’t think anyone’s arguing we shouldn’t cut any spending. What we’re suggesting is that if you’re truly concerned about the deficit, you should agree that tax cuts should be balanced with the elimination of tax loopholes and/or the end the Bush tax cuts.

crr6 on July 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM

“It cannot all be on us,” the president said, arguing that Republicans need to give on the revenue side of things as Democrats are willing to do so on spending cuts.

Translation: Obama wants to Share in our Sacrifice now.

We’ll Share talk about the possibility of their Sacrificing later.

Chip on July 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM

The adults are in charge?

kingsjester on July 13, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Well Varuca Salt, if if was a fifth we would all be drunk!

What a petulant spoiled child and liar!

bluemarlin on July 13, 2011 at 10:20 PM

okay, the country might collapse but I you get 10 points for the airplane clip.

rob verdi on July 13, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Also, am I right in thinking that the only two times O has walked out on a meeting are today and when he met with Bibi Netanyahu back in March of last year?

Someone else probably mentioned it, but if not, isn’t it odd that the two blow-ups occurred with two Jews. Looks like O doesn’t like Jewish people.

pearson on July 13, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Let me see if I’ve got this straight.

Fearless leader calls the following a “compromise” on his part:

I get to raise our level of indebtedness to astronomical levels and then, to get a deal to raise the limit on our indebtedness (which limit would never have mattered had I not borrowed every last dime in the piggy bank), you have to agree to raise taxes to cover it.

If that’s his idea of leadership then I totally agree and I’d like to be the first one to buy either a bridge or a used car from that man. This Hope & Change elixir is simply delicious!

IndieDogg on July 13, 2011 at 10:22 PM

* If McCain were President in the exact same circumstance, crr6 would be here lecturing people on the meaning of temperament, civility, maturity, how Obama’s superior temperament and negotiation skillz, coupled with his obviously superior intellect, would have been useful here, etc.

Good Lt on July 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Lazy counterfactual is lazy.

crr6 on July 13, 2011 at 10:22 PM

1. CW =/= CWForFreedom.
massrighty on July 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Sadly, that’s incorrect. CW = CWForFreedom.

crr6 on July 13, 2011 at 10:23 PM

“Dealing with them the last couple months has been like dealing with Jell-o,” Boehner said. “Some days it’s firmer than others. Sometimes it’s like they’ve left it out over night.”

Heh. Not a huge Boehner fan, but that’s good.

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 10:23 PM

I have shown enormous willingness to compromise and have taken huge heat for it,” he said, “but my responsibility is to the American people and there comes a point when I need to say, ‘Enough.’”

pearson on July 13, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Any bets on when Obama comes completely unglued?

coldwarrior on July 13, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Coming right after McConnell’s silly proposal, how can we have a debt limit debate without Senator “Surrender” weighing in?

Sen. Graham: Republicans Should Accept Tax Revenue Increase

Senator Graham said Republicans should be willing to accept a deal that curbs entitlement spending and increases tax revenues by closing loopholes.

“To me, that makes sense,” he said. “That way you don’t raise tax rates, but you do generate new revenue by closing loopholes. You’re giving money away to a few people at the expense of many, and I think it’s time to reevaluate that.”

TheRightMan on July 13, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Any bets on when Obama comes completely unglued?

coldwarrior on July 13, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Bout 4 years ago?

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Also, am I right in thinking that the only two times O has walked out on a meeting are today and when he met with Bibi Netanyahu back in March of last year?

Someone else probably mentioned it, but if not, isn’t it odd that the two blow-ups occurred with two Jews. Looks like O doesn’t like Jewish people.

pearson on July 13, 2011 at 10:21 PM

No surprise, all his life he has surrounded himself with rabid jew-hating knuckle-draggers like Reverend Wright and the three nutty broads in the White House. The center of jew-hatred in the USA today is in the black radical left.

BTW, I read somewhere today that Mayor Ed Koch will endorse the Republican for Weiner’s seat in protest over little Bammie’s treatment of Israel.

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Any bets on when Obama comes completely unglued?

coldwarrior on July 13, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Between the July 24th and August 1st, while I’m on a cruise ship to Alaska.

All the good stuff always happens when I’m on vacation.

Knucklehead on July 13, 2011 at 10:29 PM

crr6 on July 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Wow, unemployment has exploded, housing is still in the dump, creditors got screwed out of what a regular bankruptcy court would have given them if GM & Chrysler would have used existing courts and laws. Add to that the revenue quarters keep getting revised downward from a lackluster starting figures and I can see why you would be excited about our strides. Let me at least admire your optimist. I will gladly turn my Pollyanna designation over to you, wear it with pride.

Cindy Munford on July 13, 2011 at 10:30 PM

miConsevative on July 13, 2011 at 10:26 PM

No, I was thinking more of this sort of coming unglued….

coldwarrior on July 13, 2011 at 10:30 PM

I prefer the Cowboy Diplomacy presidential style over the Childish Temper Tantrum presidential style.

ButterflyDragon on July 13, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Cannot believe Barry compared himself to Reagan. Here’s a little history lesson, sonny. Reagan never, ever had a hissy fit, and he didn’t go into negotiations of any sort without a plan of his own. He was a leader. You’re a child.

Rational Thought on July 13, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Hannity has made it official…

“President Cry Baby!”

Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM

We got President Cry Baby in DC and Governor Loony Toons in Saint Paul. Good help us.

AUH2O on July 13, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Obama also reportedly told Republicans today that Friday’s the deadline for deciding whether both sides should continue to pursue a real deficit-reduction deal or whether they should shift to looking for some sort of fallback plan a la McConnell to avoid default.

And there’s the rub. The fallback plan. McConnells plan. Give him more authority, he takes it, runs with it, and becomes even more of a dicator than he is now. *Siiiiiiiiigh*

capejasmine on July 13, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Any bets on when Obama comes completely unglued?

coldwarrior on July 13, 2011 at 10:25 PM

In one of his crappy books he admits that there is a “burning rage inside” of him that he has to suppress.

Tick, tick, tick…

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Obama goes to these meetings as if he is meeting with the real enemy. That’s close since he has done more to destroy this nation and get our military killed since LBJ or Carter.

Hening on July 13, 2011 at 10:34 PM

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Obama? A hunka-hunka burning rage? He’ll be wearing a white jump suit soon enough…’cept he won’t be appearing in Vegas.

coldwarrior on July 13, 2011 at 10:34 PM

No, I was thinking more of this sort of coming unglued….

coldwarrior on July 13, 2011 at 10:30 PM

I like this kind of unglued much better.

Knucklehead on July 13, 2011 at 10:35 PM

“I have shown enormous willingness to compromise and have taken huge heat for it,” he said, “but my responsibility is to the American people and there comes a point when I need to say, ‘Enough.’”

Bad news, Obama:

Bad news for the White House: opposition is still almost 2-1 in the latest Gallup to the debt-ceiling hike for which Obama has gone on a national campaign.

englishqueen01 on July 13, 2011 at 10:35 PM

In one of his crappy books he admits that there is a “burning rage inside” of him that he has to suppress.

Tick, tick, tick…

slickwillie2001 on July 13, 2011 at 10:32 PM

I know this is un-Christian of me but I’m looking forward to it.

sandee on July 13, 2011 at 10:35 PM

When his arm starts moving by itself and he starts singing German Army songs, then we’ll know that things are coming unglued.

flytier on July 13, 2011 at 10:36 PM

So let me get this straight….if the GOP calls his bluff, it will bring his presidency down? Sounds like a plan.

ElectricPhase on July 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

I’m in!

mrsmwp on July 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM

2) I don’t think anyone’s arguing we shouldn’t cut any spending. What we’re suggesting is that if you’re truly concerned about the deficit, you should agree that tax cuts should be balanced with the elimination of tax loopholes and/or the end the Bush tax cuts.

crr6 on July 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM

You see, your problem is you think we are concerned about increasing government revenues stolen property. I don’t give two craps about raising “revenue”. Any government “revenue” is a loss for productive members of society. We want to cut government “revenue” as much as possible and then go out and slash it some more. Government “revenue” is no more than extortion and theft. I don’t care where the “revenue” comes from, I want the government to lose as much “revenue” as possible and then cut their spending to match the lower amount of stolen property the government is taking in.

AUH2O on July 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM

America, to be “STYLISH”, invited this self-absorbed hedonist into their house. He repaid them by stripping the wallpaper off the walls, trashing the appliances,totaling the computers,smashing windows, punching holes in the drywall, setting fire to the kitchen and poisoning all the pets. Time to confront him while the house is still standing and the children are still breathing.

MaiDee on July 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM

I read this on a prog forum – can anyone clarify this for me? I so badly want to respond but words fail me!

…….”I was struck by the people who seemed to have no idea what the debt ceiling is, what it means if the US defaults (one seemed to think it would be like a govt shutdown), what is behind this whole made-up “crisis”. The media does a terrible job of providing context – as in, how many times the debt limit has been raised in the past, why we have a debt limit in the first place (I can’t explain that, but it was enacted around WWI). People think if it’s raised, there will be more spending, not that it’s to be able to pay for spending that’s already been committed to – hence, the Representative from Georgia (R, of course) who wants to lower the debt limit (sigh).”

marge on July 13, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Translation: Obama “If you won’t play my way, I’m going to take my ball and go home.”

LEBA on July 13, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Again….Paging President Palin!

PappyD61 on July 13, 2011 at 10:42 PM

MaiDee on July 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM

Sounds like a typical evening in South Chicago…except for the “invited” part.

Guess we shoulda seen that one coming? [Well, some of us did.]

coldwarrior on July 13, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Government “revenue” is no more than extortion and theft.

AUH2O on July 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Again, I’d just like to reiterate that I love you guys. Seriously.

crr6 on July 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM

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