Bachmann would consider debt limit increase — in exchange for Obamacare repeal

posted at 1:55 pm on July 12, 2011 by Tina Korbe

A sample of the ideological purity that some say makes Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) a surprisingly compelling contender for the GOP presidential nomination: Bachmann yesterday said she would support a debt ceiling increase if and only if the deal included the defunding of the new health care law, “the largest entitlement in the history of the country,” as she put it.

During an appearance on The O’Reilly Factor, Bachmann stated her conditions for an increase: “They’d have to cut an enormous amount [of spending], including they would have to defund Obamacare.”

When Bill O’Reilly reminded Bachmann that repeal isn’t even on the table, she agreed and said, “No and that’s why I can’t go for [a debt limit increase]. I can’t go for it because never will we be able to balance our books ever in the future.”

She also pushed back against O’Reilly’s insistence that no debt ceiling increase would mean default. She stopped short of accusing Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner of lying about the probability of default, but didn’t hesitate to repeat adamantly, “He’s wrong, he’s wrong, he’s wrong.”

“Well, of course, it’s not true that anyone wants to see the United States government default on its debt,” she said. “We don’t have to because the fact is we have sufficient revenue coming in to pay off the interest on the debt. We don’t have to default. … All you have to do is look at the books. We have sufficient revenue coming in. We can pay off all of those obligations first — and we must. We always have and we always will.”

What the nation can’t afford, Bachmann says, is another $2.4 trillion in debt or “wasteful Washington programs.”

Bachmann’s position on the debt ceiling — what O’Reilly called the “renegade” position — is a prime example of the way she favors the fight against big government over any kind of so-called legislative accomplishments (which all too often amount to bills passed for the sake of being passed) that could fill the gaps in her congressional record — the “nonexistence” of which has lately taken so much criticism. Of course, to some, that fight she’s been waging — all those “no” votes — amounts to its own kind of record — a record the other candidates lack.


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Is MB reading HOTAIR?

WOW!

44Magnum on July 12, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Hey I said that yesterday

gophergirl on July 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Boom. I could go for that deal.

dczombie on July 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Can someone please put a muzzle on Bill O’Reilly? That pompous ass thinks that Bachmann’s demands are “renegade positions?” Hmmm… Then conservatives must ALL be renegade.

search4truth on July 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM

MB……running the race that Palin won’t.

PappyD61 on July 12, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Wow, that’s a great idea. Boehner should take that one to BO, considering how unpopular Obamacare is. Of course, he won’t go for it, but it would highlight the fact that Obamacare is going to be another huge driver of govt. spending that necessitates future debt ceiling hikes.

thirteen28 on July 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM

She also pushed back against O’Reilly’s insistence that no debt ceiling increase would mean default

Bachmann is the only person who seems to understand this truth, and that’s why she’s standing out alone among the Presidential candidates.

MassVictim on July 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM

OT: chicago thuggery…dear leader will stop your SS checks because of those mean old gop folk won’t help him out

cmsinaz on July 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM

The checks will go out to the blue states. Texas, Arizona, etc, you’re out of luck.

iurockhead on July 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Obama’s policies call for $1.5T deficit spending as far as the eye can see. If the debt ceiling holds, that’s $15T of spending over 10 years. That should be the starting point, not the last three years of massive splurges.

If you start at $15T of cuts, it becomes immediately obvious that we can’t afford inane programs and institutions like the Department of Education, Department of Agriculture, and Department of Energy — much less idiotic policies like Obamacare.

The only way Obamacare is remotely possible is if the debt ceiling is raised……

…..so just don’t raise it.

cthulhu on July 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM

A sample of the ideological purity that some say makes Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) a surprisingly compelling contender for the GOP presidential nomination:

It’s not a matter of purity, it’s about liberty verses tyranny.

FloatingRock on July 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM

No, no, no, no, NO. NO. NO!!!!!

No “considering” any kind of deal right now, or any time as long as Osama Obama is pulling the strings and leading the narrative.

The only acceptable “deal” for any halfway intelligent patriotic American (which leaves out Congress and the Traitor-in-Chief) is a massive halt in government spending. If possible, Social Security and Medicare payments to the elderly and legitimately infirm must continue, even if it means the royalty in Congress lose their grandiose perks and can’t throw pork at their pals. Even if it means the Chicago Jesus has to do without vacations, payoffs to ACORN and the rest of the underhanded theft he routinely indulges in.

Or, as T-Paw would surely say: “gosh, everyone is messing up but me, aren’t they?”

MrScribbler on July 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Bachmann’s position on the debt ceiling — what O’Reilly called the “renegade” position — is a prime example of the way she favors the fight against big government over any kind of so-called legislative accomplishments (which all too often amount to bills passed for the sake of being passed) that could fill the gaps in her congressional record — the “nonexistence” of which has lately taken so much criticism. Of course, to some, that fight she’s been waging — all those “no” votes — amounts to its own kind of record — a record the other candidates lack.

Oh, I get it now, Tina. MB is just too darn principled to have a legislative record of accomplishment.

Vyce on July 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM

iurockhead on July 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM

duh! my bad…

cmsinaz on July 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM

I’m sure she’s performing very poorly in the polls with “renegade” positions like that.

John Deaux on July 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Well, according to Drudge, Obama has finally invoked the nuclear option,….. SS, veterans, and disability checks can’t be guaranteed on Aug 3rd if he doesn’t get his way.

a capella on July 12, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Now THAT’S a bargaining position!

Bachmann’s position on the debt ceiling… is a prime example of the way she favors the fight against big government over any kind of so-called legislative accomplishments (which all too often amount to bills passed for the sake of being passed)

Well put, Tina, I’ve long thought congress could spend at least 2 years repealing laws and wouldn’t get enough done at that.

cartooner on July 12, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Is Timothy Geithner lying about the probability of default?

Did the little piggy cry WHEE-WHEE-WHEE all the way home?

pilamaye on July 12, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Flip Flopney’s testes just shriveled to the size of chick peas.

OhioCoastie on July 12, 2011 at 2:04 PM

I could go for that deal. spending limit increase defund Obamacare.

Kudos to Bahcmann.

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Can someone please put a muzzle on Bill O’Reilly? That pompous ass thinks that Bachmann’s demands are “renegade positions?” Hmmm… Then conservatives must ALL be renegade.

search4truth on July 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM

LOL! Better than being a “maverick”.

cartooner on July 12, 2011 at 2:05 PM

That’s only about $3 trillion, not even halfway to the cuts we need to make.

Vashta.Nerada on July 12, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Then conservatives must ALL be renegade.

search4truth on July 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Hell welcome to my world. I can’t even watch the guy anyomore.

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 2:06 PM

I watched MB school BOR. He looked like a buffoon.
MB is doing what she knows is right and that is exactly what someone, anyone needs to do.
This lastest Obama tactic on social security checks is absolutely stunning. How did we end up with such a thug?

ORconservative on July 12, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Well, according to Drudge, Obama has finally invoked the nuclear option,….. SS, veterans, and disability checks can’t be guaranteed on Aug 3rd if he doesn’t get his way.

a capella on July 12, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Snort! Yup, try that one, Barry.

katy the mean old lady on July 12, 2011 at 2:08 PM

I don’t get it. Obama is saying he wants to increase taxes–massively AND that he will see to it that checks are stopped to entitlement programs come Aug. 3 if he doesn’t get them.

Could someone please tell me what President EVERY has said these two things and not had the majority of the country turn against him in a BIG way! Can you imagine if Bush had said this instead of TARP (yes, I know, he wouldn’t have had time). The LSM would have eaten him alive!

UnderstandingisPower on July 12, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Shouldn’t Bachmann be in Congress making up a bill to push for this idea, getting her fellow congresspeople to cosign on to this bill and making the speaker bend to her ideas?

she has the power to create bills and get them into committees and pushed on to the floor and make them be voted on correct?

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 2:09 PM

OT: chicago thuggery…dear leader will stop your SS checks because of those mean old gop folk won’t help him out

cmsinaz on July 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Does this kind of behavior make anyone want to begin impeachment proceedings against the Traitor-in-Chief? Or is this just another cute little foible of the Chicago Jesus’s regime, a snippet that might make “Obamateurism of the Week” next Sunday?

Oh, I know, the HA position seems to be that any use of the “I-word” is Bad Optics, unrealistic and, what the hey, Tim Pawlenty will take it to Osama Obama next year anyway.

I kinda hate letting all the pantywaist Neville Chamberlains of Congress and the commentariat pull us into the abyss with them, though. Even if our President-for-Life appreciates their indulgence.

MrScribbler on July 12, 2011 at 2:10 PM

Well, according to Drudge, Obama has finally invoked the nuclear option,….. SS, veterans, and disability checks can’t be guaranteed on Aug 3rd if he doesn’t get his way.

a capella on July 12, 2011 at 2:03 PM

He is such an awful awful person.

gophergirl on July 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM

In March of this year the Republican, yes, the Republican House voted, with 95 R votes, to add Veterinarians to ObamaCare. They expanded it, with their own hands.

Throw them all out in 2012.

Schadenfreude on July 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Brace yourselves. The media war against Bachmann is about go to the next level.

poorrichardsnews on July 12, 2011 at 2:09 PM

the media is still at defcon 4 they haven’t really scratched the surface yet. hell they aren’t even making crap up yet. Maher endorsed her yeasterday…

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 2:12 PM

The media are busy with Rubio this week, and the week is new. He makes them sizzle because he is dangerous.

Schadenfreude on July 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Tina’s the only real Michele Bachmann enthusiast on Hot Air. Allah’s more of a RINOish/Romney supporter (I still luv you, man!) and Ed seems more establishment Republican, as near as I can tell.

You go, girl!

Sailfish on July 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM

katy the mean old lady on July 12, 2011 at 2:08 PM

No, he’s doing it so seniors will bombard Boehner et al with accusations of being cruel. It’s a variation of the donk ad showing Paul Ryan’s plan pushing Granny over a cliff. This is intended to put maximum pressure on the GOP. Geithner made reference to it on MTP Sunday,..preparing the field.

a capella on July 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM

“It was like talking to Ted Baxter,” -Michelle Bachmann.

Akzed on July 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Tpaw and Mitt, you’re being called out.

Bishop on July 12, 2011 at 2:14 PM

Hell welcome to my world. I can’t even watch the guy anyomore.

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 2:06 PM

I have never liked him. I have seen through his “I am in the middle” BS for years. Big, pompous blowhard that just wants to yell over his guests. Don’t know how he gets good ratings.

search4truth on July 12, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Repeal ØbamaCare? I could go for that deal too.

O’Reilly wasn’t prepared if he didn’t know already that there’s ample revenue to service the debt. His fumble there surprised me.

Score one for the Titanium Spine.

MB +1
O’R 0

Of course, to some, that fight she’s been waging — all those “no” votes — amounts to its own kind of record — a record the other candidates lack.

TK +1

petefrt on July 12, 2011 at 2:15 PM

I watched MB school BOR. He looked like a buffoon.

ORconservative on July 12, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Me too. This was her best performance. Very impressive.

faraway on July 12, 2011 at 2:15 PM

A sample of the ideological purity that some say makes Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) a surprisingly compelling contender for the GOP presidential nomination: Bachmann yesterday said she would support a debt ceiling increase if and only if the deal included the defunding of the new health care law, “the largest entitlement in the history of the country,” as she put it.

Nancy Pelosi must be puking with rage.

disa on July 12, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Oh, I get it now, Tina. MB is just too darn principled to have a legislative record of accomplishment.

Vyce on July 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Hey, do you know what those other candidates who have not been in Congress lack? They lack a record of “no” votes in Congress!

Missy on July 12, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Oh, I get it now, Tina. MB is just too darn principled to have a legislative record of accomplishment.

Vyce on July 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM

In a parliament of wh0res, a virgin is destined for the backbench.

JohnGalt23 on July 12, 2011 at 2:18 PM

The media has already started the palinization with the treatment program they had…..

cmsinaz on July 12, 2011 at 2:21 PM

I can’t believe she’s the only one making Obamacare part of the cuts. It’s like a huge flashing red light.

SouthernGent on July 12, 2011 at 2:22 PM

I thought Michele Bachmann did well in the BOR interview..I also think she is spot on in saying we need to repeal Obiecare..:)

Dire Straits on July 12, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Mr scribbler, the lsm has already started with how can you (the gop) live with yourself because you made dear leader stop those checks….

cmsinaz on July 12, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Brace yourselves. The media war against Bachmann is about go to the next level.

poorrichardsnews on July 12, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Oh you already know that the lunatic lineup at the insane asylum known as MSNBC have been filing their teeth for weeks in preparation for their own assault on Bachmann.

pilamaye on July 12, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Ds are harlots, bought by lobbyists. Rs are too.

Schadenfreude on July 12, 2011 at 2:25 PM

“He’s wrong, he’s wrong, he’s wrong.”

He is not wrong.

.
.
.
.
He is lying.

There is a difference

LegendHasIt on July 12, 2011 at 2:26 PM

The irony is that increasing the debt limit is default, not the other way around.

jhffmn on July 12, 2011 at 2:26 PM

I also think she is spot on in saying we need to repeal Obiecare..:)

Dire Straits on July 12, 2011 at 2:22 PM

I think that’s going to be her battle cry. I wish it included sealing the border and energy independence.

darwin on July 12, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Tpaw and Mitt, you’re being called out.

Bishop on July 12, 2011 at 2:14 PM

Those two are competing for a totally different part of the Canadian electorate.

MeatHeadinCA on July 12, 2011 at 2:28 PM

I think that’s going to be her battle cry. I wish it included sealing the border and energy independence.

darwin on July 12, 2011 at 2:27 PM

I thought she was relatively strong on border issues.

MeatHeadinCA on July 12, 2011 at 2:29 PM

No, he’s doing it so seniors will bombard Boehner et al with accusations of being cruel. It’s a variation of the donk ad showing Paul Ryan’s plan pushing Granny over a cliff. This is intended to put maximum pressure on the GOP. Geithner made reference to it on MTP Sunday,..preparing the field.

a capella on July 12, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Not this senior.
Let him try defunding the troops.

katy the mean old lady on July 12, 2011 at 2:29 PM

darwin on July 12, 2011 at 2:27 PM

I hear you..:)

PS..I’m also willing to bet if a couple of other folks get in the GOP Primary repealing Obiecare will be their Battle cry also..IMHO!..:)

Dire Straits on July 12, 2011 at 2:30 PM

I have never liked him. I have seen through his “I am in the middle” BS for years. Big, pompous blowhard that just wants to yell over his guests. Don’t know how he gets good ratings.

search4truth on July 12, 2011 at 2:15 PM

i think it is a function of him being on fox at 8:00pm more so than anything about him personally.

I do know that the entire foxnews channel has been losing viewers since the Obamacare debate. adn is about back to where they were in 2009. Basically all the bump they got from the TEa party tuning in is now gone.

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 2:31 PM

That’s only about $3 trillion, not even halfway to the cuts we need to make.

Vashta.Nerada on July 12, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Obamacare is like the Holy Grail to libs. If she’s willing to go for that she’s willing to go for other waste.

MeatHeadinCA on July 12, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Bachmann would consider debt limit increase — in exchange for Obamacare repeal

That’s it?

Repeal Obamacare is a must, with or without the current debt ceiling deal.

She’s not going to touch Social Security, Medicare and/or other entitlements? If you don’t fix those boondagles, how soon are we going to run out of money next?

So how much is she willing to raise this time?

Sir Napsalot on July 12, 2011 at 2:32 PM

This might be the one thing that would get me to be OK with a debt ceiling increase.

miConsevative on July 12, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Was she holding the back of her pinkie up to the corner of her lip when she said this?

MJBrutus on July 12, 2011 at 2:33 PM

MeatHeadinCA on July 12, 2011 at 2:31 PM

OT:..Have you checked out the “sister wives” thread in the Headlines..:)

Dire Straits on July 12, 2011 at 2:35 PM

MeatHeadinCA on July 12, 2011 at 2:31 PM
OT:..Have you checked out the “sister wives” thread in the Headlines?..:)

Dire Straits on July 12, 2011 at 2:35 PM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on July 12, 2011 at 2:36 PM

She stopped short of accusing Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner of lying about the probability of default, but didn’t hesitate to repeat adamantly, “He’s wrong, he’s wrong, he’s wrong.”

She missed a chance here. It’s time for the GOP to NOT “stop short of accusing Tim Geithner of lying”. Call him out on it! They should summon him before the House to come with figures and PROVE how the country will default in his debt obligations minus an increase in the debt limit!

TheRightMan on July 12, 2011 at 2:37 PM

OT:..Have you checked out the “sister wives” thread in the Headlines..:)

Dire Straits on July 12, 2011 at 2:35 PM

Not yet :)

MeatHeadinCA on July 12, 2011 at 2:39 PM

The real problem with the interview is that Timmy was talking about what happens if we default.

Poor BOR is not smart enough to notice that Timmy never mentioned when default would happen.

faraway on July 12, 2011 at 2:39 PM

She stopped short of accusing Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner of lying about the probability of default, but didn’t hesitate to repeat adamantly, “He’s wrong, he’s wrong, he’s wrong.”

Why, how could he be wrong about the numbers? I mean, he got so confused by TurboTax
/s

IrishEyes on July 12, 2011 at 2:40 PM

MeatHeadinCA on July 12, 2011 at 2:39 PM

Big debate going on..:)

Dire Straits on July 12, 2011 at 2:43 PM

Obama has finally invoked the nuclear option . . . Social Security . . . checks can’t be guaranteed on Aug 3rd if he doesn’t get his way

Obama is trying to kill grandma!

Emperor Norton on July 12, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Does anyone here imagine that very bad things will not happen if the debt ceiling is not raised? I mean anyone besides MB who no doubt reads this blog and takes what she sees here seriously.

The question is not will we raise it. We have to. Period. The question is what concessions we can obtain by doing so. Making demands that everyone in the world knows will never happen does nothing to obtain concessions. It simply marks one as not being serious.

I think that Boehner is on the right track in demanding spending cuts equivalent to the amount of a debt ceiling increase. It is realistic and it only needs pass the house to place the ball squarely in the Senate and PBHO’s court. They either pass a reasonable bill out of the house or they take the responsibility for the consequences of the US treasury not meeting its obligations.

Going down the loony MB road is a perfect way to seize defeat from the gaping jaws of victory. It would ensure that the GOP would take the blame for those consequences and taking all the pressure off of the Donkeys.

MJBrutus on July 12, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Oh, I get it now, Tina. MB is just too darn principled to have a legislative record of accomplishment.

Vyce on July 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM

She’s accustomed to standing on principle. It’s an admirable legislative trait and a disastrous executive trait. Common-ground finder she ain’t.

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 2:51 PM

Vyce on July 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM

What legislative victories (bills signed into law) should MB have having been in the minority party with Lugosi as Speaker?

Gohawgs on July 12, 2011 at 2:51 PM

This is more of the same ole crap.

Why would you support increasing the national debt for eliminating obamacare?

Why do we need to support a debt limit increase at all?

Sell out, sell out, sell out.

paulsur on July 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM

What legislative victories (bills signed into law) should MB have having been in the minority party with Lugosi as Speaker?

Gohawgs on July 12, 2011 at 2:51 PM

I’d settle for common sense legislation with her name attached that garnered close to majority support, even if they didn’t pass. This latest gambit is just another way of saying she’d never vote to pass a debt limit increase, and that’s a little extreme. Not even for $1 trillion in real cuts and no tax increases? Come on.

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Why do we need to support a debt limit increase at all?

paulsur on July 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM

So that we can get some cuts. It’s a bargaining tool. But eventually we’ll have to raise it, since we do not have a balanced budget.

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 2:55 PM

We already have a ridiculously huge debt ceiling, so raising it a bit more isn’t going to affect our short term economic problems very much. Long term, yes, of course.

However, Obamacare, has a huge impact that makes our debt ceiling a minor issue for the short-run and the long-run.

So, yeah, I’d make this trade too if it was the only option left in the short-term debate.

Lawrence on July 12, 2011 at 2:59 PM

How does Bachmann’s plan pass the Senate or the Oval Office? It doesn’t so what’s the point?

Buy Danish on July 12, 2011 at 3:01 PM

I hope people understand that a simple refusal to raise the debt limit is by definition a vote for a balanced budget. a vote for the increase is a vote for an unbalanced budget.

A no vote on the debt limit would require immediate cuts of about $1.5 trillion in spending over night. It will shrink the government by about 40% over night. right now the GOP has the power to do everything it has cmapaigned on. Drastic government cuts, balanced budget, living within our means and the fun part is that it doesn’t even take a vote. simply by doing nothing all of the conservative dreams can be accomplishment in one stroke.

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 3:01 PM

If the gop doesn’t raise the debt limit. Obamacare by definition is defunded.

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 3:03 PM

How does Bachmann’s plan pass the Senate or the Oval Office? It doesn’t so what’s the point?

Buy Danish on July 12, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Another chance to burnish her conservative bona fides, no doubt. It’s not realistic.

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 3:04 PM

the gop should not raise the debt limit. they should hold firm and make the hard choice to finally do what they have promised us for 30 years. cut government size. Period. with the act of inaction the GOP can give us all they have promised. they don’t even have to vote on it. simply do nothing and Obama is boxed in, and the government is leashed again. Obamacare will never be funded.

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM

What bills did our current Spelunker of the House, Cantor or any other R in the minority leadership get PASSED under Lugosi’s regime?

And, I don’t see why we need to raise the debt limit if the idea is to cut spending. We have enough revenues coming in — as both Palin and MB have stated — to service our debt obligations, just cut spending…

Gohawgs on July 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM

just cut spending…

Gohawgs on July 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Because a spending cut that drastic ($1.5 Trillion this year) would have a serious negative effect on our economy, just as raising taxes would. Cutting spending is necessary but it has to be phased in.

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 3:08 PM

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 3:01 PM

I see that this is your first rodeo, so let me explain a few of the more elementary facts of life for you.

In a rational world, closing food inspections, for example would make sense. Private industry would pick up the slack because their business requires public confidence in the safety of their product. That is precisely why it would be the very last thing that the Donkeys would cut.

No, the first thing that will happen is that Social Security checks will go out late or be stopped altogether for some. They will make sure that the cuts will occur to the most popular, noticeable program there is. They will make seniors suffer. As long as they can blame the problem on the GOP for being ridiculous such as what MB is demanding they will win.

The way to win this fight is to make demands that are meaningful, but also sane and reasonable enough that most Americans will not think that the we should shut down Social Security payments to deny those demands. This is no time to stupidly overreach or make moronic grand stand plays. This is a time to call the Donkeys bluff by making them an offer they can’t refuse.

MJBrutus on July 12, 2011 at 3:09 PM

O’reilly was acting the ignorant and close minded fool who wouldnt let Bachmann complete an answer during this interview. The only thing that turned my stomach more was the next segment where that a**clown Juan Williams started high 5′ing and fist bumping Bill for putting the coals to Bachmann.
I can hardly watch the Factor anymore due to its incessant pandering the “middle of the road” veiwer.

Koa on July 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM

afu,

Why the 1.5 Trillion/40% level of cuts?…The problem with phasing in cuts is that the cuts never get cut. Throw in the 10 year or 20 year cycle that many pols toss out and nothing gets cut…

Gohawgs on July 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Gohawgs on July 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM

I think a down payment is worthwhile, and an actual cut instead of reductions in planned increases. But we can’t eat the whole apple in one bite.

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Gohawgs on July 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM

I’d favor passing a budget together with the debt ceiling increase, particularly because the budget is the correct place to be having this fight and not a continuing resolution.

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 3:16 PM

I think a down payment is worthwhile, and an actual cut instead of reductions in planned increases. But we can’t eat the whole apple in one bite.

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Not in one bite? You haven’t seen Mrs. Obama eat!…

I agree with you, otherwise…

Gohawgs on July 12, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Gohawgs on July 12, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Mrs. Obama? Try Teh Won

:)

alwaysfiredup on July 12, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Can someone please put a muzzle on Bill O’Reilly? That pompous ass thinks that Bachmann’s demands are “renegade positions?” Hmmm… Then conservatives must ALL be renegade.

search4truth on July 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM

BOR isn’t half as smart as he thinks. His starting positions tend to be rooted in his progressive harvard/media roots. He’s also a real big fan of “fairness” which I define as “stealing my stuff to give to someone who didn’t earn it”.

hawksruleva on July 12, 2011 at 3:28 PM

OT: chicago thuggery…dear leader will stop your SS checks because of those mean old gop folk won’t help him out

cmsinaz on July 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM

This is why Speaker Boehner says we must increase the debt ceiling. It’s not about defaulting, it’s about demogoguery. The seemingly spineless are just trying to limit the scare tactics that will be used when checks can’t be written to all the left’s little pet projects that are currently being funded. It’s silly because the demogoguery will happen no matter what because the media is an unscrupulous wing of the DNC. We know that the government doesn’t have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem. Even Rep. Ryan’s 2012 budget calls for an increase in spending to nearly $4.7 Trillion, down from the $5.7 Trillion that Obama is seeking. Only in DC is $3 Trillion not enough to run a government.

rmel80 on July 12, 2011 at 3:31 PM

….His starting positions tend to be rooted in his progressive harvard/media roots.

hawksruleva on July 12, 2011 at 3:28 PM

And thus is the difference between those educated at Ivy League type schools. The rest of us learned what “we should do,” they learned “what they can get away with doing.”

rmel80 on July 12, 2011 at 3:35 PM

BOR is a populist dope much of the time.

csdeven on July 12, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Good by me. As a start.

MTF on July 12, 2011 at 4:04 PM

The way to win this fight is to make demands that are meaningful, but also sane and reasonable enough that most Americans will not think that the we should shut down Social Security payments to deny those demands. This is no time to stupidly overreach or make moronic grand stand plays. This is a time to call the Donkeys bluff by making them an offer they can’t refuse.

MJBrutus on July 12, 2011 at 3:09 PM

I see you are a proud card carrying member of the party of sheep. you base your REACTION on what the ACTION of the dems will be. Here is a hint for you. If the GOP ever wants to be a majority party they need to start acting not reacting. By not voting to increase the debt ceiling and if the GOP would frmae the freaking debate for once. then the failure of those Social security checks to go out will be blamed on the party in charge not the GOP.

By explaining how Obama is funidng planned parent hood and abortions instead of social security or how he is funding the EPa instead of scoial security the gop wins. by giving in to the dems because they might paint us into bad guys you sir have already lost the fight. And you as a proud member of the party of sheep will soon know what it feels like to be in the belly of the wolf.

So since you nor the majority of your moderate brethern understand how to fight why don’t you all just go wait in the hallyway.

unseen on July 12, 2011 at 4:17 PM

NO! NO! NO! NO!

No deal on the debt ceiling even if it means a repeal of 0bamacare! What a terrible idea!

There is no better time to stop this spending madness than now. 0bamacare should have been on the table from the very beginning without raising the debt ceiling.

And… just let that communist hold back SS and military checks. The asleep in this country will finally wake up to his hatred for it. The scales will fall from their eyes and they will finally see what he has been doing to us. Want to see poll numbers in freefall jackwad? Want to see headlines calling for impeachment day in and day out? Go ahead and pull that trigger Mr. Resident you hateful P.O.S.

greeneyedconservative on July 12, 2011 at 4:20 PM

MrScribbler on July 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM

greeneyedconservative on July 12, 2011 at 4:20 PM

She’s joking! Sheesh. She of all people knows that Obama will NEVER go for the repeal of Obamacare! It’s like she’s goading Obama with this tease: hey, Obama, you say you care about this economy? Well, repeal Obamacare and you’ve got a deal! LOL. It’s really pretty funny because I can see O turning purple over it (well, more purple than usual).

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on July 12, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Aslans Girl on July 12, 2011 at 4:33 PM

I’m responding to those who are saying, yes, good idea and not seeing the bigger picture for their disdain for 0C. I understand the “joke” I suppose, it just scares the beejeebus out of me that it might be even slightly considered by anyone. Stupider things have happened, no? ;~)

greeneyedconservative on July 12, 2011 at 4:48 PM

How does Bachmann’s plan pass the Senate or the Oval Office? It doesn’t so what’s the point?

Buy Danish on July 12, 2011 at 3:01 PM

What’s the point of you breathing, idiot?

TexasJew on July 12, 2011 at 4:48 PM

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