Pawlenty plays it safe — but smart — on homosexuality

posted at 6:35 pm on July 10, 2011 by Tina Korbe

GOP presidential hopeful and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty said today he’s not sure whether homosexuality is genetic or behavioral. Political Ticker reports:

“As I understand the science, there’s no current conclusion that it’s genetic,” Pawlenty said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Saying he preferred to “defer to the scientists” about the issue, the former Minnesota governor said it was unclear if being gay or lesbian was a lifestyle choice.

“There’s no scientific conclusion that it’s genetic. We don’t know that. So, we don’t know to what extent it’s behavioral,” Pawlenty said. “That’s something that has been debated by scientists for a long time.”

T-Paw didn’t pass on the chance to reiterate his support for traditional marriage, however. He phrased his views positively, emphasizing that he is a proponent of marriage between one man and one woman and saying simply, “I have not supported the issues of allowing gay couples to have the same benefits in public employment as traditional couples.”

Political Ticker and other news outlets framed Pawlenty’s remarks as a “punt,” but, from where I sit, he answered the question the only way he could have. So far, science has not conclusively established homosexuality as a genetic predisposition. Given that Pawlenty presumably disapproves of gay behavior, what did he have to gain by either absolving gay couples of responsibility for that behavior or blatantly accusing them of poor choices?

Conversely, he did have something to gain by making a statement in support of traditional marriage — an institution his base likewise values and wants to see protected. (Keep in mind just 28 percent of Republicans think same-sex marriage should be legal and just 25 percent of conservatives hold that view.) Perhaps Pawlenty played it safe, but, primarily, he played it smart.


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What would Sunday be without a ‘Brokeback Hot Air’ post?

darwin-t on July 10, 2011 at 6:38 PM

GOP presidential hopeful and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty said today he’s not sure whether homosexuality is genetic or behavioral.

Truly, this is the most important issue the country currently faces.

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Good Lt on July 10, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Funny, I saw the “David Gregory Show”, and believe it or not he DIDN’T ask Timothy Geitner about homosexuals or his love for Lady Gaga. Just boring serious policy stuff for that guy.

Where oh where is the Republican who can control an interview, and refuses to be controlled?

Marcus on July 10, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Nice move T-Paw!..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Where oh where is the Republican who can control an interview, and refuses to be controlled?

Marcus on July 10, 2011 at 6:41 PM

me too….the donald could handle them for his 15 minutes of fame…

the lsm will ONLY focus on social issues with the candidates…

cmsinaz on July 10, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Hey DS :)

cmsinaz on July 10, 2011 at 6:44 PM

I don’t think it’s safe. I think it’s true.

We don’t know.

englishqueen01 on July 10, 2011 at 6:45 PM

What would Sunday be without a ‘Brokeback Hot Air’ post?

darwin-t on July 10, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Indeed. Nothing like getting us to fight each other to get those ‘click’ numbers going up!

itsnotaboutme on July 10, 2011 at 6:47 PM

“As I understand the science, there’s no current conclusion that it’s genetic,” Pawlenty said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

He’s just homophobic and a hater.

Ernie on (you name the date and year)

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CW on July 10, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Did they ask him about sexual relations between same sex couples?

Mcguyver on July 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Hey DS :)

cmsinaz on July 10, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Good afternoon..I hope all is well?..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Funny, I saw the “David Gregory Show”, and believe it or not he DIDN’T ask Timothy Geitner about homosexuals or his love for Lady Gaga. Just boring serious policy stuff for that guy.

Where oh where is the Republican who can control an interview, and refuses to be controlled?

Marcus on July 10, 2011 at 6:41 PM

The last time I saw a Republican try to control an interview with a liberal host was Sarah & Katie. Most of us know how that turned out.

itsnotaboutme on July 10, 2011 at 6:49 PM

The great amount of attention homosexual issues have gotten in the past year is a sign of a highly dysfunctional society.

Capp on July 10, 2011 at 6:49 PM

As I see it, homosexuals should continue to claim it’s genetic – and fervently pray that it’s not.

If it is indeed genetic, that gene or combination of genes can be isolated and detected. And we’ll get a real good look at how much those designer-baby abortion-happy liberals really feel about “gay rights.”

KingGold on July 10, 2011 at 6:51 PM

How does the issue of Homosexuality help our economy?

portlandon on July 10, 2011 at 6:54 PM

More gotcha BS from the media.

All the more reason Romey’s ignoring these socon gotcha questions is a wise one.

rickyricardo on July 10, 2011 at 6:55 PM

Did he have a condom on the microphone?

I kid, I kid.

SouthernGent on July 10, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Spiders are genetic. I don’t like spiders.

So, what’s the point of Pawlenty’s reply?

OldEnglish on July 10, 2011 at 6:56 PM

All the more reason Romey’s ignoring these socon gotcha ALL questions is a wise one.

rickyricardo on July 10, 2011 at 6:55 PM

portlandon on July 10, 2011 at 6:57 PM

How does the issue of Homosexuality help our economy?

portlandon on July 10, 2011 at 6:54 PM

They’re trying to get us used to taking it up the tailpipe?

darwin-t on July 10, 2011 at 6:57 PM

This just in: Liberal hack journalist asks T-Paw gotcha question. He didn’t fall for it.

The very definition of a slow news day.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2011 at 6:58 PM

I’m about for bed already…
Alone again, naturally.

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 6:59 PM

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 6:59 PM

hello OC..Hope things are going well for you?!?..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 7:03 PM

I’m about for bed already…
Alone again, naturally.

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 6:59 PM

I’ll be right over to tuck you in.

Knucklehead on July 10, 2011 at 7:03 PM

So far, science has not conclusively established homosexuality as a genetic predisposition.

Nor is it ever likely to.

Rocks on July 10, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Did he have a condom on the microphone?

I kid, I kid.

SouthernGent on July 10, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Thought the same thing, playing it safe and all…

Fallon on July 10, 2011 at 7:04 PM

It doesn’t, but conservatives are going to be examined more closely on their attitudes. We should nominate someone who can thread a very fine needle on social issues, by articulating pro-family principles but not alienating people. It’s not an easy thing to do.

alwaysfiredup on July 10, 2011 at 7:04 PM

“There’s no scientific conclusion that it’s genetic. We don’t know that. So, we don’t know to what extent it’s behavioral,” Pawlenty said.

There aren’t just two choices, genetic versus behavioral. It could be environmental, caused by chemical factors in the womb, psychological factors during childhood or both. Most likely, it’s like every other human trait and a mixture of all of these.

The correct answer is that the entire issue is moot. Whether or why someone experiences homosexual desire is completely irrelevant, because we cannot peer into a human mind and measure desire, and a just, limited government cannot reward or punish that which it cannot measure. All we can choose to reward or punish is homosexual behavior… but of course since Lawrence v. Texas we can no longer punish homosexual behavior, and since all that is not forbidden in our liberal-fascist state must be mandatory, that means we are legally compelled now to reward it.

But, of course, if Pawlenty had even begun to try to make that point, all he’d have done is guarantee a week of headlines saying “ZOMG PAWLENTY HATES TEH GHEY!!1!” So hooray for navigating out of the minefield, I guess.

Fabozz on July 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Dear God, will we ever be delivered from this nonsensical debate? It doesn’t matter if it’s genetic. It doesn’t matter if it’s a choice. What matters is if it’s something that deserves to be elevated to civil-rights status, and the answer is ‘no.’ It’s about where you put your willie, nothing more.

greggriffith on July 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Well, yay for Pawlenty cause, you know, he needs to play it safe since he’s being hammered into oblivion.

KickandSwimMom on July 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Yep. Going good. Had a T-Bone for lunch and ribs for dinner. Both times with mashed potatoes and lemoned cold al dente asparagus and a great sermon and Bible Study this morning at Divine Service.

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM

I’ll be right over to tuck you in.

Knucklehead on July 10, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Nice. I am waiting darlin’

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:06 PM

And this question is important in a Presidential race in what way?

The nation heads towards economic oblivion and the MSM is heading towards total oblivion.

ajacksonian on July 10, 2011 at 7:06 PM

And we’ll get a real good look at how much those designer-baby abortion-happy liberals really feel about “gay rights.”

Oh, it’s already clear that they’d be against it. An episode of “Law & Order” from a few years ago centered around a bombing at a lab that did genetic testing, in which a pregnant guard was injured. One of the suspects interviewed was a couple who aborted their son after the lab said he’d have Downs. One of the detectives criticized them for it, and was taken to task by his superior.

When the story unfolded, it turned out the suspects were somehow related to the pregnant woman, and that the lab was doing work on isolating a “gay gene” to identify gay children in the womb via genetic testing. When the prosecutor figured out the men were trying to have the guard’s pregnancy terminated because the child may be gay, the tone completely shifted. Suddenly, it was bad to abort a child based on the fact genetic testing showed he was gay.

The ground work has already been laid on that one.

englishqueen01 on July 10, 2011 at 7:07 PM

“There’s no scientific conclusion that it’s genetic.”

All the science points to pixie dust or fluoride or global warming or some combination thereof. Everyone knows that.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Well, yay for Pawlenty cause, you know, he needs to play it safe since he’s being hammered into oblivion.

KickandSwimMom on July 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM

His best bet for the primary is coming across as the sensible conservative who can lead a big tent. It was a good answer for that strategy.

alwaysfiredup on July 10, 2011 at 7:08 PM

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM

I hear you..Nice Lunch for sure..You are making me hungry..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Why is homosexuality the big question? Aren’t there more pressing issues?
Like money???

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:09 PM

And this question is important in a Presidential race in what way?

The nation heads towards economic oblivion and the MSM is heading towards total oblivion.

ajacksonian on July 10, 2011 at 7:06 PM

This.

Knucklehead on July 10, 2011 at 7:10 PM

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Good point..MSM is playing “gotcha” game with GOP primary candidates..Nothing ever changes..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Medium rare and juicy blood…
mmm mmmm mmm!
Made it’s own gravy with the ‘taters.

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:11 PM

I wonder if Pawlenty thinks heterosexuality is not genentic based and is simply behavioral.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:12 PM

will we ever be delivered from this nonsensical debate? It doesn’t matter if it’s genetic. It doesn’t matter if it’s a choice. What matters is if it’s something that deserves to be elevated to civil-rights status, and the answer is ‘no.’ It’s about where you put your willie, nothing more.

greggriffith on July 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Excellent input.
Here’s a more fully-developed analysis of why it doesn’t matter:
http://townhall.com/columnists/andrewtallman/2008/07/31/five_logical_errors_of_the_born_gay_ideology

itsnotaboutme on July 10, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Is that the question now?

So what if it is behavioral? I do lots of stuff that my genetic makeup has nothing to do with the is none of the government’s business.

Aquateen Hungerforce on July 10, 2011 at 7:14 PM

I wonder if Pawlenty thinks heterosexuality is not genentic based and is simply behavioral.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Who really cares? T-Paw bores the shi!t outta’ me…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Aquateen Hungerforce on July 10, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Lolz.
Amen

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:15 PM

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:11 PM

I can handle medium rare..Just as long as it is not mooing it is all good..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Is the prevalence of politicians taking bribes (aka campaign contributions) genetically based or strictly random behavior.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:16 PM

“There’s no scientific conclusion that it’s genetic. We don’t know that. So, we don’t know to what extent it’s behavioral,” Pawlenty said. “That’s something that has been debated by scientists for a long time.”

If it is behavioral, we could do all the genetic testing we wanted, but would never be able to prove it even minutely let alone conclusively or not. As people could claim that many factors genetically could lead to one being gay.

If it is genetic, it would turn out that it only produces a higher likelihood, thus it still comes down to choosing to live as a gay.

So, any way it is looked at, scientifically, it always comes out to choice.

astonerii on July 10, 2011 at 7:16 PM

T-Paw is such a ghey name.

profitsbeard on July 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Who really cares? T-Paw bores the shi!t outta’ me…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Just be glad you are not his wife.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM

It’s about where you put your willie, nothing more.

greggriffith on July 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Not for lesbians, it’s not.

SnarkVader on July 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM

I can handle medium rare..Just as long as it is not mooing it is all good..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 7:15 PM

My sainted ma’ used to cook her filet mignon well done. This was after her kids were all adults. We never got steak until we bought our own. She really ruined good meat.
She also started eating chocolate cake for breakfast after she reared us and emptied her nest…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:20 PM

If homosexuality is genetic, then pedophilia is as well, along with those that are predisposed to rape and other vile behavior…I just can’t believe how 1-2% of the population can
frame the debate on how we function in this country…

rich8450 on July 10, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Just be glad you are not his wife.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM

I’d have to be female, so it’s all moot…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:21 PM

What would Sunday be without a ‘Brokeback Hot Air’ post?

darwin-t on July 10, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Point well made. Me thinks HotAir is too much in your face with the ‘Brokeback’

Wade on July 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:20 PM

lol!..I agree with you..why waste a steak if you are going to cook it well done..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM

T-Paw is such a ghey name.

profitsbeard on July 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Put him to the test.

Profitsbeard [to T-Paw]: Say something like a sissy girl.
T-Paw: Something like a sissy girl…
Profitsbeard: No… you know. Swing… your… hips.
[puts hands on hips] Make them sway and flap your wings.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Fox is really promoting Kate & William. I really don’t give a f**k about them…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Wow, if our politicians spent time worrying about spending instead of homosexuality, we would be in much better shape now.
Non issue.

carbon_footprint on July 10, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Just be glad you are not his wife.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:17 PM

I’d have to be female, so it’s all moot…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Assumes facts not in evidence as we have still not determined T-Paws sexual orientation let alone whether it is genetic or strictly behavioral.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Is all Barack Obama’s lying genetic or strictly behavioral?

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Assumes facts not in evidence as we have still not determined T-Paws sexual orientation let alone whether it is genetic or strictly behavioral.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Again, Who gives a f**k what T-Paw thinks???
About anything…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Point well made. Me thinks HotAir is too much in your face with the ‘Brokeback’

Wade on July 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Me thinks HotAir is too much in your face with Timmy.

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Knucklehead on July 10, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Is Michelle Obama’s super-duper-sized arse genetically based or merely caused by some behavior on her part or that of Barack’s?

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:31 PM

It worked for the Greeks, and they built the Parthenon after defeating Persia.

AshleyTKing on July 10, 2011 at 7:32 PM

If homosexuality is genetic, then pedophilia is as well, along with those that are predisposed to rape and other vile behavior…I just can’t believe how 1-2% of the population can
frame the debate on how we function in this country…

rich8450 on July 10, 2011 at 7:20 PM

lol…”1-2%”….And sorry, but that ol’ “argument” about rape and pedo’s being genetic, only so you can say homosexuality isn’t, is nothing more than ridiculous.

JetBoy on July 10, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Again, Who gives a f**k what T-Paw thinks???
About anything…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:30 PM

With an attitude like that you will be totally unprepared to meet any alien life, living or dead.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Me thinks HotAir is too much in your face with Timmy.

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Knucklehead on July 10, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Ed is obviously a “homer”.

darwin-t on July 10, 2011 at 7:35 PM

So far, science has not conclusively established homosexuality as a genetic predisposition.

Nor is it ever likely to.

Rocks on July 10, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Agreed, but it’s not behavioral either. It’s more likely something going wrong in fetal development, due to a hormonal or other chemical imbalance in the mother. The problem will likely be solved and a way to avoid the disorder devised. A ‘cure’ after the fact is unlikely though.

slickwillie2001 on July 10, 2011 at 7:37 PM

With an attitude like that you will be totally unprepared to meet any alien life, living or dead.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Heh..,
So be it.
.
I am unprepared for lotsa’ shiite…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Ed is obviously a “homer”.

darwin-t on July 10, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Who’s Ed?

Wade on July 10, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Who’s Ed?

Wade on July 10, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Wilbur’s horse was named Ed. That’s all I know.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:42 PM

There’s no scientific conclusion that it’s genetic.

And the moment there is the pro-life side of the abortion-on-demand debate will get a lot more well-dressed.

Knott Buyinit on July 10, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Who’s Ed?

Wade on July 10, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Morrissey? The chief cook and bottle washer of this ship.

darwin-t on July 10, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Wilbur’s horse was named Ed. That’s all I know.

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:42 PM

I-AM-MR.-ED…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:44 PM

haven’t we had enough of weak politicians that are playing it safe / over cautious? I’m scratching TPaw off of my list of possibles for the primary. DD

Darvin Dowdy on July 10, 2011 at 7:44 PM

With selective abortion becoming common across the globe, I don’t think the search for the “Gay Gene” will ever succeed.

Zaire67 on July 10, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Who cares? Fail to see why homosexuality is a political issue.

therightwinger on July 10, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Darvin Dowdy on July 10, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Good for you. He’s been off my list for awhile now…

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Pawlenty’s frank response is a refreshing vessel on a sea of polluted waters called denial of facts.

But of course the Left is eager to get Pawlenty on record about one of their Golden Fiction Calves.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Have you sobered up?

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Is all Barack Obama’s lying genetic or strictly behavioral?

Lon Chaney on July 10, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Without unassailable proof of his birth, and not some photoshopped fake of a birth certificate, how will we ever know?

But, of one thing I am certain, Obama’s lies and deceits are far more destructive to our country than what a bunch of girly boys or bully girls do or want to do with their own lives.

TXUS on July 10, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Let’s see…one of the latest memes I’ve read from the Left suggests a return to “blame the heterosexual mother” that posits that “uterine fluids” somehow pollute a heterosexual human being in the womb and they – presto – are “born homosexual”.

Homosexuality is a learned behavior. Someone at sometime instructs a gullible, trusting and eager-to-learn human child into a set of behaviors and they grow later while sexually maturing into someone practicing those homosexual behaviors.

To each his own, I suppose, is the going way today socially but the idea that homosexual behaviors somehow produces a new race or third gender of people (calling themselves, “homosexuals” and therefore privy to a full range of specialties amidst societies) is what I earlier referred to (above comments) as one of the Left’s Golden Fiction Calves. It’s sheer nonsense but here we are today, being “required” by many a person engaged in homosexuality into crafting society to adopt that irrational pretense.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 7:57 PM

The simple fact is that homosexual attraction/arousal can’t be genetic, because just distinguishing between male and female is a learned skill, not something inborn — and arousal is a completely different learned skill (or set of skills). In fact, just viewing it as being limited to being attracted to men or women’s bodies is unreasonable, because a person can learn to be aroused by pretty much anything. (If you think about it, plenty of people are aroused by colored lights in particular patters, which is obviously not genetic)
Granted, there may be some genetic traits that can make a person more vulnerable to various psychological problems that homosexuality is a symptom of, and oversexed men are probably likely to fall into it just based on the fact that men put out more than women.

Count to 10 on July 10, 2011 at 7:57 PM

What really got me is when I saw the headline I thought for sure he was going to endorse prophylactics…

ajacksonian on July 10, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Homosexuality is a learned behavior. Someone at sometime instructs a gullible, trusting and eager-to-learn human child into a set of behaviors and they grow later while sexually maturing into someone practicing those homosexual behaviors.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 7:57 PM

That reminds me…I have to find this Summer’s gullible, trusting and eager-to-learn child to convert. I better get on that, or this time they might revoke my choice to be a homosexual.

JetBoy on July 10, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Truly, this is the most important issue the country currently faces.

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Good Lt on July 10, 2011 at 6:39 PM

So unimportant, in fact, that we shouldn’t be changing the laws to accommodate the homosexual paradigm.

Count to 10 on July 10, 2011 at 8:00 PM

At a time when people only think what they “feel” is true, good luck trying to discuss this with the hysterical.

It ain’t genetic, and homosexuality isn’t a race. If homosexuality was a race, Darwin’s complete theory would go right down the crapper.

Hening on July 10, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Obama’s lies and deceits are far more destructive to our country than what a bunch of girly boys or bully girls do or want to do with their own lives.

TXUS on July 10, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Note the current state of things in California, where a Leftwing and “gay” populated state legislature has just made it a “requirement” in public education to instruct children in homosexual behaviors. It’s supposed to now be in the official textbooks, including “the history” of such, whatever that means (the leftwing CA legislature and Teachers Union, I am sure, though, will make up whatever they want as “official history”…).

It’s madness. Sheer madness. Once in public schools and “official textbooks,” the madness spreads even farther, unfortunately.

I completely agree that Obama’s lies are wretchedly far-reaching as to damages. But he’s part of that same damaging Left that afflicts the state of CA (as also elsewhere). They simply create deceitful tales and insist on them as facts.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:02 PM

That reminds me…I have to find this Summer’s gullible, trusting and eager-to-learn child to convert. I better get on that, or this time they might revoke my choice to be a homosexual.

JetBoy on July 10, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Instead, you might want to concentrate on who it was who led you astray.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:03 PM

JetBoy on July 10, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Instead, you might want to concentrate on who it was who led you astray.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Point being, JetBoy, that you are engaged in a series of behaviors and a cultural affect that you learned. From someone, sometime, some cultural, behavioral influences.

You were not “born that way” regardless of how grotesquely Lady Gaga cries about it.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:05 PM

The 1st Amendment directs Congress hands off when it comes to matters of religion. Marriage is a spiritual relationship. This is its significance, legal ramifications being incidental. Homosexuals want committed homosexual relationships to be glorified in a manner equal to heterosexual marriage. The legal benefits and even the name of marriage may be granted to homosexuals, still the Bible indicates its spiritual benefits will remain elusive.

Life’s decisions for better or worse prove themselves to be one or the other, without need to bother. If the Bible is correct, then Christians need to stop freaking out in condemnation of behavior which God has already placed on the road to ruin, and perhaps attend each to their own behavior. No one is righteous, no not one.

exdeadhead on July 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM

That reminds me…I have to find this Summer’s gullible, trusting and eager-to-learn child to convert. I better get on that, or this time they might revoke my choice to be a homosexual.

JetBoy on July 10, 2011 at 8:00 PM

You can yuck it up all you want, Jet, but just telling kids that any same-sex feelings means that they were born homosexual is part of the problem. Of course, the other part of the problem is the rest of society pushing them into it by more or less declaring the same thing.
Though that is separate from the child abusers, it still contributes.

Count to 10 on July 10, 2011 at 8:07 PM

JetBoy on July 10, 2011 at 8:00 PM

How is Boca Raton?..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Have you sobered up?

OmahaConservative on July 10, 2011 at 7:53 PM

No, already “sober”. To address your catty rhetorical smear, I don’t drink alcohol and I certainly don’t use the crud your peers claimed I do as to “street drugs”.

Can you at least stop lying about other people for the Sunday of every week? Try it, keep the day holy or at least make an effort.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Oh Lord, someone check the steaks.

Knucklehead on July 10, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Oh Lord, someone check the steaks.

Knucklehead on July 10, 2011 at 8:09 PM

I pray to God that he heals you.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:11 PM

How is Boca Raton?..:)

Dire Straits on July 10, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Haven’t found a new home I like yet…staying with a friend in the meantime. Ugh, I never wanna go through this again, my poor doggie and kitties.

Point being, JetBoy, that you are engaged in a series of behaviors and a cultural affect that you learned. From someone, sometime, some cultural, behavioral influences.

You were not “born that way” regardless of how grotesquely Lady Gaga cries about it.

Lourdes on July 10, 2011 at 8:05 PM

That’s the thing tho…I didn’t “learn” homosexuality as a kid. Those “feelings” were there already, especially through puberty.

But alas, when did you have “the talk” with a hetero…thus deciding to be straight? Gotta figure, by your logic, we aren’t born into our sexual preference…

JetBoy on July 10, 2011 at 8:18 PM

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