The New York Times: Lying For The DFL

posted at 4:00 pm on July 9, 2011 by Mitch Berg

The New York Times opts to toss facts under the bus in an editorial this week about the Minnesota Shutdown:

How far will Republican lawmakers go to protect millionaires? Those who think a default on the federal government’s credit seems implausible should take a sobering look at the “closed” signs dotting Minnesota. The Republican Party there readily shut down the state’s government on Friday by refusing to raise taxes on the 7,700 Minnesotans who make more than $1 million a year.

Well, no.

The GOP refused to raise taxes.  Period.  Dayton chose to make it about “millionaires”, and before that “the rich”.  Had Dayton chosen to raise, say, the gas tax (like the DFL majority in 2009 did), a terribly regressive tax that squats all over working-class prosperity, the GOP would have opposed that, as well.

For the Times to turn the GOP’s opposition to a tax into ”protecting millionaires” is a craven bit of rhetorical dishonesty.

Gov. Mark Dayton, a Democrat, campaigned for office last year promising to raise taxes on high earners, so it was no surprise when he proposed a tax increase on families making more than $150,000 a year to help close a $5 billion budget gap. In negotiations with the Republican majority in the Legislature, he compromised and reduced the increase to those making $1 million or more, but Republicans are refusing to consider any income tax increase.

Note the rhetoric: Dayton keeping a campaign promise?  Good.  The GOP? Can’t be good, can it?

Like Republicans in Washington, they have the delusion that they can balance the budget entirely from cuts.

The Times’ “editorial” was apparently written by the MNDFL’s chair, Ken Martin.  The GOP budget is the biggest spending increase in Minnesota history.

The governor proposed more than $2 billion in cuts but refused to slash billions more from education, health care and public safety programs.

All of which the GOP compromised on, meeting Dayton much more than halfway.

The Legislature also wanted new abortion restrictions and a voter ID law that Mr. Dayton had already vetoed. When he said no, lawmakers allowed the fiscal year to end without a budget, and state government officially shut on July 1.

The Times apparently believes the GOP should “negotiate” like a Saturn dealer; start with their “final offer” and work backward from there.

Also unmentioned by “the Times” editorial writer: Dayton walked out of the negotiations every time.  The GOP Legislature was waiting in the Capitol, ready to negotiate and/or pass a “lights on” bill, to keep govermment running

More than 40 state agencies have closed, including the state parks over the July Fourth holiday. Courts and public safety agencies are operating, but essential services for the poor, like food pantries and child care subsidies, have evaporated. Many parents say they may have to quit their jobs if state-subsidized child care does not resume quickly. The shutdown will cost the state money, since many of the 22,000 laid-off workers will receive unemployment benefits and health insurance, while the treasury is unable to collect on tax audits, lottery tickets and park fees.

Unmentioned by the Times (or any of the Twin Cities media); the evidence is overwhelming that Governor Dayton rigged the shutdown to cause as much pain as possible, specifically to drive those dependent on state employment or services to try to push moderate Republicans into wobbling.

As painful as the closure may become, the governor is right not to yield to the extremist ideology the Republicans are pursuing in St. Paul, Washington and across the country.

“Extremist ideology”.

The GOP ran very openly on a platform of holding the line on taxes and spending.  Perhaps you remember the Tea Party – it was in all the papers, including the Times.

Extremist?  Governor Dayton won with 43% of the vote; the GOP majorities had, by definition, over 50% of the state’s voters pick them (since the third-party challenges were virtually nonexistant in legislative races in 2010).  Can a policy chosen by over half the voters be “extemist?”

 

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Ben Stein was on one of the Fox business shows this morning saying there is no way we can’t get away without some tax increases to go along with spending cuts…

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM

He has been say this for a long time, I want to see proof that he has sent money into the Treasury.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 4:11 PM

The NYT lying? Not news.

clnurnberg on July 9, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Obama talk. Rhetoric to cover the absolute failure of Obamanomics.

pat on July 9, 2011 at 4:13 PM

In the big picture, isn’t MN doing comparatively well? It sounds like increased spending without increased taxation is a win/win for everyone, I don’t understand this shiny new governor.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Like Republicans in Washington, they have the delusion that they can balance the budget entirely from cuts.

Let’s see … Minnesota’s in trouble because they’ve spent too much, not because they haven’t taxed enough. So I assume the opposite of what got them in trouble will work, yes?

darwin on July 9, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 4:11 PM

+1000

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Government spend new revenue on new spending instead of debt frequently enough that it’s fair to assume that it will always be so. So they have to cut before they pay down, or they will never cut.

Besides, we’re talking about the paper that covered for mass murder by the Soviet Regime, the only reason they can claim any credibility is because a large percentage of the press and bureaucracy share their poisonous ideology.

Merovign on July 9, 2011 at 4:27 PM

“craven bit of rhetorical dishonesty”

No, say it ain’t so! Seriously, it used to be a big deal to accuse a newspaper or a journalist of lying. Now, in the case of al New York Times or WaPo, it happens once a week or so and they pay no attention.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2011 at 4:35 PM

“Pinch” is in a pinch. They’re getting more desperate.

SouthernGent on July 9, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Ben Stein was on one of the Fox business shows this morning saying there is no way we can’t get away without some tax increases to go along with spending cuts…

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Stein is an arrogant blowhard, and I don’t care what he thinks. I’m sure the Stein Family Trust is in good order shielding his money from the federal government.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2011 at 4:36 PM

I’m concerned if there is a shut down that obaka will not pay the troops.

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Well the Democrats are going all out in the class warfare aren’t they? Tax the rich, to help the “little” people. Corporate jets, and even Paul Ryan’s 350 dollar bottle of wine. Trouble is a lot of people buy this c..p. Hope we can counter this and soon!

sandee on July 9, 2011 at 4:38 PM

If Republicans think they can slide by with trading tax hikes for anything they need to remember “read my lips”.

The Dems and Obama got in big trouble because they promised heaven and gave us hell, break your promises and win a ticket home, only, the country is on the edge of a cliff, now is no time to go all wobbly.

Speakup on July 9, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Ben Stein was on one of the Fox business shows this morning saying there is no way we can’t get away without some tax increases to go along with spending cuts…

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM

This is his new mantra, he has been on this track for a while. He never seems to address the fact that spending cuts never really occur. The public is not convinced that cutting spending will not work and want to see convincing proof that they have tried that approach first.

whbates on July 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Shared Sacrifice: Sacrifice those who pay taxes so it can be Shared by those who don’t.

Chip on July 9, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Boy, the definition of “high earners” just keeps getting lower and lower doesn’t it?

scalleywag on July 9, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Shared Sacrifice: Sacrifice those who pay taxes so it can be Shared by those who don’t.

Chip on July 9, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Hey other people deserve their fair share of what you earn! Stop being so selfish.

clnurnberg on July 9, 2011 at 4:47 PM

The New York Times: Lying For The DFL

You had me at “Lying”

faraway on July 9, 2011 at 4:48 PM

He never seems to address the fact that spending cuts never really occur. The public is not convinced that cutting spending will not work and want to see convincing proof that they have tried that approach first.

whbates on July 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Pat Buchanan said on Hannity’s radio show yesterday that Ronald Reagan’s biggest regret was his deal with Congress with results to taxes and spending cuts. He never got his spending cuts.

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:49 PM

NY Times lying? No. It’s worse. It is the propaganda wing for the disgustocrats.

NY Times == The New Pravda

ClanDerson on July 9, 2011 at 4:50 PM

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Wasn’t there a thread the other day that most payments are automatic and would take a lot of trouble to change the computer program.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Boy, the definition of “high earners” just keeps getting lower and lower doesn’t it?

scalleywag on July 9, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Just wait until it reaches the top tier of the 47% who don’t pay and see them complain about how it was someone Else who was supposed to Sacrifice.

Chip on July 9, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Anyone know how much we are “spending through the tax code” for the EIC giveaway?

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 4:50 PM

I saw that, but I still think he’d love to screw over the troops if he thought it would end up hurting the GOP…

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:55 PM

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:55 PM

I don’t know, he’s already getting pretty big budget cuts in the DOD, I don’t think he would play with that kind of fire. I think that would be a bi-partisan suicide.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Shared Sacrifice: Sacrifice those who pay taxes so it can be Shared by those who don’t.

Chip on July 9, 2011 at 4:42 PM

That pretty well sums it up.

Tim Zank on July 9, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Not sure it would be bi-partisan as obaka alone gets to choose the priority…

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 5:08 PM

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:55 PM

teh Won can do that any time: “Hey we don’t have a budget. Can’t pay troops without a budget.”

Small problem; no budget for last two years ’cause D’rats havn’t proposed one. The only budget was Paul Ryan’s.R-WI

Failure stacked on top of failure is a tough record to run on.

Caststeel on July 9, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Failure stacked on top of failure is a tough record to run on.

Caststeel on July 9, 2011 at 5:09 PM

I agree, but that doesn’t help the troops.

But he’s got the media on his side, and they will work hard to convince everyone it is the EVIL republicans that have impeded all of his awesomeness…

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Miiiiiiiiiiiiiitch. Good to see you posting on Hot Air.

Why do I get the sense that MN is a microcosm of what’s in store for the rest of the country?? Dayton has no imagination. He’s pulling pages right of the Democrat playbook.

“Tax cuts millionaires”
“GOP policies are extremist”

Keep fighting the good fight, Sky Dog.

NickDeringer on July 9, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Wasn’t there a thread the other day that most payments are automatic and would take a lot of trouble to change the computer program.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 4:50 PM

So sorry! Saw your comment about getting together in Florida this fall. If you get to Broward, we’ll pick up JetBoy and go somewhere for a Mexican Hat Dance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwgYf6gVjTs&feature=related

katy the mean old lady on July 9, 2011 at 5:27 PM

What conservative cares about what the NYT writes anymore.. we all know the score now

The Hatefilled Left reads NYT, WaPo etc

The Right reads conservative blogs

And never the twain shall meet…

CCRWM on July 9, 2011 at 5:28 PM

I saw that, but I still think he’d love to screw over the troops if he thought it would end up hurting the GOP…

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:55 PM

He’d sreue our soldiers just for laughs.

katy the mean old lady on July 9, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Ben Stein was on one of the Fox business shows this morning saying there is no way we can’t get away without some tax increases to go along with spending cuts…

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Unfortunately he’s right. We are in too deep a hole for one or the other alone to bail our butts out, rabid free-marketeers be d@mned.

The question of the hour is can we get meaningful spending cuts? B/c if we can’t, everything else is moot.

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 9, 2011 at 5:32 PM

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 5:08 PM

I mean both sides will hate him although the media will blame the Republicans.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 5:36 PM

katy the mean old lady on July 9, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Not much of a drinker or dancer but it looks and sounds like fun.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Unfortunately he’s right. We are in too deep a hole for one or the other alone to bail our butts out, rabid free-marketeers be d@mned.

The question of the hour is can we get meaningful spending cuts? B/c if we can’t, everything else is moot.

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 9, 2011 at 5:32 PM

50% of Americans don’t pay tax. It’s time. Leave everyone else alone.

darwin on July 9, 2011 at 5:37 PM

50% of Americans don’t pay tax. It’s time. Leave everyone else alone.

darwin on July 9, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Time for what, dare I ask?

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 9, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Time for meaningful spending cuts. Especially entitlements and medicare for the younger crowd.

clnurnberg on July 9, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Time for what, dare I ask?

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 9, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Time for the 50% to pay some tax.

darwin on July 9, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Not much of a drinker or dancer but it looks and sounds like fun.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 5:37 PM

No problema. Knucklehead insisted I add paregoric and some ” hippie lettuce” to my mango hat sauce. You won’t have to drink or dance.

Or speak or walk.

katy the mean old lady on July 9, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Time for the 50% to pay some tax.

darwin on July 9, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Flat tax works for me!

katy the mean old lady on July 9, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Time for the 50% to pay some tax.

darwin on July 9, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Not only don’t they pay taxes, many of them receive the EIC. How bogus is that?

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Let me see.. we give the government money to run the government. They over spend and want more so they can over spend more. Time to end the insanity. Run the damned government on what we GIVE YOU.

Wade on July 9, 2011 at 5:48 PM

ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Reagan negotiated the original 3 for 1 deal but instead got $1.06 in increased spending for each additional $1 of taxes. Real spending cuts first then in about a decade come back to me about those taxes.

chemman on July 9, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Time for the 50% to pay some tax.

darwin on July 9, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Yes. We need a minimum income tax that no loopholes can get you out of. Even 1% is fine with me. How can our country work with such a large proportion not contributing, but still voting?

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Breaking News! Flash!…Who’d a believed it?

The NY Times carries democrat water….yawn…

JIMV on July 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

So Dayton wants to increase spending by 7 Billion Dollars, then compromises to raise it by more than 5 Billion, and he is lauded for his compromise raising the budget by more than fifteen percent when the inflation rate is 3 percent. A budget five times the rate of inflation is okay with the Slimes. But the GOP budget, 6 percent increase, twice the rate of inflation is a murderous budget. This is why republicans can’t ever win as RINOs against democraps. Republicans can never outspend democraps, they have no off switch or responsibility switch as long as its other people’s money. If democraps spent other people’s money they way they spend their own money for charitable purposes, the two parties would have the same spending program.

eaglewingz08 on July 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Boy, the definition of “high earners” just keeps getting lower and lower doesn’t it?

scalleywag on July 9, 2011 at 4:46 PM

High Earners…for a democrat, that’s anyone who has a job…

PatriotRider on July 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM

For the Times to turn the GOP’s opposition to a tax into ”protecting millionaires” is a craven bit of rhetorical dishonesty.

The author gets my vote for permanent promotion from the Green Room!

Khun Joe on July 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Times editorialists apparently got their “facts” from the Minneapolis Star Tribune. It’s lefty group-think. Fortunately, their echo chamber is becoming smaller and better sound-proofed.

If nothing else we can thank people like Obama and Gov Dayton as they provide clarity about the extremist left and their death-lock hold on the Dem Party. They drank the Keynesian kool-aid and now refuse to implement proven pro-growth policies, out of stubborn refusal to admit their increasingly obvious error and failure, and they really do not much like economic growth, because it empowers the private sector.

Big Government has become an enemy of the State. Go figure. Thank you Barry. You have made it easier to persuade the persuadable about this. The evidence of liberal policy failure is abundant and becoming more so.

Liberalism will suffer greatly on 11-6-2012 as more people come to understand and experience the loss of opportunity caused by the advance of Big Government (enabled by D’s and R’s, mostly D’s). Another shellacking and the D’s will either repent or perish, politically speaking.

The left will be set adrift. (Please God.) It is difficult to envision how this can end otherwise. Their policies fail. They are bad for families. The American people are not idiots (in spite of media efforts to render us so). Sooner or later, 2+2=4. It’ll be rough, but patriots recognize the threat posed by fiscal stupidity and the need for adults who will make difficult decisions for the good of country.

exdeadhead on July 9, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Time for the 50% to pay some tax.

darwin on July 9, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Ah. Yes, I heartily agree.

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 9, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Time for what, dare I ask?

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 9, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Time for the 50% to pay some tax.

darwin on July 9, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Some don’t have a real grasp on reality, much less the obvious.

But for some, they’re idea of shared sacrifice is not taking by force what they think they are owed by society.

Colbyjack on July 9, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Like Republicans in Washington, they have the delusion that they can balance the budget entirely from cuts.

Delusion? How is that a delusion?

ELIMINATE Medicare and the budget is balanced, right? Call me a cold-hearted summabeotch but I don’t believe in Medicare. Let people buy insurance and take care of themselves.

BierManVA on July 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Some don’t have a real grasp on reality, much less the obvious.

Colbyjackass on July 9, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Excuse the hell out of me for asking.

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 9, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Uncle Sams Nephew on July 9, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Perhaps you should be less ambiguous in your postings.

Colbyjack on July 9, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Ben Stein was on one of the Fox business shows this morning saying there is no way we can’t get away without some tax increases to go along with spending cuts…
 
ladyingray on July 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM

 
I’d agree, but probably not like he meant. A tax increase on the 50% with no tax liability is absolutely necessary. Skin in the game and what not.

rogerb on July 9, 2011 at 6:13 PM

The NYT’s is noted for it’s selective memory. Or is it amnesia?

GarandFan on July 9, 2011 at 6:25 PM

There should be 50k people rallying outside the NYT and a boycott being pushed against any and all of their advertisers.

We need to push this communist scourge OUT of this country, before its too late!!

KMC1 on July 9, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Once again the key MISSING detail in the Times story, as well as this blog, is the simple fact that the Governor of Minnesota VETOED the budget he was given. What this means is that the Governor has decided to shut down the state. This is about the Governors list of demands for NEW taxes and spending!

The media is conveniently leaving out this crucial detail in order to pretend that the Minnesota legislature did not do it’s job.

Freddy on July 9, 2011 at 6:42 PM

The NYT’s is noted for it’s selective memory. Or is it amnesia?

GarandFan on July 9, 2011 at 6:25 PM

Once again it’s what they don’t report that is important.

One of the classic examples of the NYT doing this was in the runup to the 1992 Presidential election. According to the Fed, the Recession had ended, and the recovery had begun, in March of 1991, 18 months before said election.

Of course, the NYT refused to report this. As did the rest of the MSM. After all, they had to get a Democrat into the White House.

In an editorial, the NY Times finally got around to “reporting” that Fed statistic. In 1999.

They weakly explained that a statistic available to one and all went “unrecognized at the time.”. What they really meant was “unreported at the time.”

Dr. Goebbels would be proud of all of them.

Del Dolemonte on July 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM

The New York Times opts to toss facts under the bus in an editorial this week

Huh. First time for everything I guess.

Akzed on July 9, 2011 at 7:10 PM

How much longer will it be till the NYT goes out of business? About the only good use for that rag is cat pan liner.

TulsAmerican on July 9, 2011 at 8:00 PM

We need a special green tax on newspapers. Did you know that a huge proportion of the material in landfills is newsprint? Somewhere around 20%. Perhaps a deposit like on some bottles.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2011 at 9:13 PM

And I’ll bet that both of their readers were dumb enough to believe this version.

FalseProfit on July 9, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Why is MN $5 Billion in debt?

Gohawgs on July 9, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Public service unions and unfunded promises…

JIMV on July 10, 2011 at 12:32 AM

I don’t recall seeing editorials by the Times castigating the Rangel’s, Dodd’s and Geitner’s of the world not paying their fair share that was rightfully owed or the fact not of them received as so much of a wrist slap for avoiding hteir tax obligations. Now I call that extreme.

chickasaw42 on July 10, 2011 at 12:37 AM

isn’t it about time the Mn legislature brought impeachment proceedings for failure to perform duties of a Mn Governor?? ya, You Betcha

mathewsjw on July 10, 2011 at 1:01 AM

Moses once said: Pick up your shovel, pack up your ass, mount your camel, I will lead you to the Promised Land.
Obama says: Throw down your shovel, sit on your ass, light up a camel, this is the Promised Land.

Bevan on July 10, 2011 at 2:30 AM

Let’s pass a new law that makes it illegal for all former presidents and congressmen to profit from books and speaking fees after they leave office. Confiscate all such income from them.

SC.Charlie on July 10, 2011 at 6:31 AM

Moses once said: Pick up your shovel, pack up your ass, mount your camel, I will lead you to the Promised Land.
Obama says: Throw down your shovel, sit on your ass, light up a camel, this is the Promised Land.

– Bevan on July 10, 2011 at 2:30 AM

With all due respect do to Moses he got the Israelites “lost” in the desert for 40 years.

SC.Charlie on July 10, 2011 at 6:38 AM

Memo to the dumb@$$’ that still actually read the New York Times.

Not raising taxes every year is not “extremist.”
Stalin killing millions was “extremist.”

Any more questions you dumb@#$%s?

I ask again. How utterly stupid does one have to be to call themselves a New York Times reader. How many times, over how many decades, does some moron have to be played, to still call themselves a New York Times reader.

These editorials will continue, until these bastions of leftist garbage are mocked. Universally mocked. Sarah Palin gets it, in this case.

MNHawk on July 10, 2011 at 7:08 AM

In the spirit of Walter Duranty the NY Slimes keeps on pimping Uncle Joe-bama.

viking01 on July 10, 2011 at 7:46 AM

Let them have all the money and then they can hand out some every week like an allowance if we are good.

I wanna see what my chores are gonna be first. I ain’t dumb.

IlikedAUH2O on July 10, 2011 at 8:36 AM

Ben Stein has this arcane observation that our economy expanded in the face of high tax rates over past decades.

Yea Ben. I have an Econ degree, too.

1) Your most humble servant, doesn’t agree with you.

2) Laffer does not agree with you. Things worked for Reagan.

3) Romer and Romer agree with you. One of the advisors to the present administration who just wrote a strange article for the NYT. Strangely, it supported the administration while at a safe distance from her handiwork.

4)Please do some reading, beginning with this:

http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2011/07/05/why-christina-romer-is-wrong-on-taxes/

If you want some equity and find the rich are getting too rich, OK…but I don’t see the other reasons for a tax increase. I ahve been praying about a good solution for the poor here.

IlikedAUH2O on July 10, 2011 at 8:48 AM

Your basic problem is that you are still reading the NYT and expecting anything other than bullsh*t. I refuse to click any NYT links–and we would all do well to do the same. They cannot survive on Manhattan progressives only.

Let ‘em dry up and blow away.

PD Quig on July 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM

What is with Ben Stein’s love/hate on/off relationship with free market principles/enterprise, the democrats and Obama?

Is he the man behind the gizmo that automatically switches him on one second and the next second it switches him off?

Ben Stein is the true definition of a bipolar time traveler between liberalism and conservatism. Perhaps that is why he looks so weird.

Mcguyver on July 10, 2011 at 2:49 PM