Quotes of the day

posted at 8:30 pm on July 9, 2011 by Allahpundit

“House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) released the following statement today regarding ongoing debt limit discussions with the White House:

“Despite good-faith efforts to find common ground, the White House will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes. I believe the best approach may be to focus on producing a smaller measure, based on the cuts identified in the Biden-led negotiations, that still meets our call for spending reforms and cuts greater than the amount of any debt limit increase.”

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“I got this from a GOP congressional source later in the afternoon:

“WH is demanding major, unambiguous tax hikes. To get spending caps & entitlement tweaks, greater economic pain appears to be the WH’s asking price. It is increasingly likely that we aren’t going to see a ‘big’ deal if the WH doesn’t budge. Speaker looks to be holding strong…

“[Update 7:39 PM] Appears that the basic framework for future tax reform could not be resolved.

“The bipartisan consensus on tax reform (broader base & lower rates) was championed by President’s fiscal commission, and yet now is being rebuked by the President. Lowering top rates that would help make America more competitive was too large a leap for a true class warrior.”

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“Tax reform is a worthwhile policy goal, and Mr. Boehner is right to pursue it. But the only way he can avoid being taken for a ride by Democrats is if all parts of any deal are negotiated, voted on and then implemented immediately. Two men, one deal, once. Promises of future action aren’t credible.

“Even if Mr. Obama is sincere on tax reform, he can’t guarantee he can deliver Senate Democrats who are desperate to keep their majority in 2012, much less Nancy Pelosi. We’re told that in Thursday’s White House meeting, Mr. Obama promised to veto any short-term debt-limit deal to give the two sides more time to negotiate. If that’s true, then the President isn’t serious. It means he is using the pressure of the August 2 deadline to bull-rush Mr. Boehner into a bad deal.

“If Mr. Obama is sincere about a long-term spending and tax reform agreement, he’ll take the time to get it right. If he insists on issuing ultimatums, then House Republicans would be better off passing a debt-limit ceiling for a few months with comparable spending cuts and letting Senate Democrats do the same. Mr. Boehner shouldn’t bet his majority on Mr. Obama’s promises.”

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“In the latest salvo in their campaign to portray Republicans as extremists for not wanting to accept tax increases as part of a budget deal, liberal bloggers led by Ezra Klein have been promoting a chart showing that in the past, the GOP has been willing to accept deals that are far less generous than what President Obama is supposedly offering them. Yet as Conn Carroll pointed out earlier, there’s a big difference between budget deals as negotiated, and budget deals as implemented. The reason why today’s conservatives are much less tolerant of deals that include tax hikes is that they’ve learned from history that the reality of such agreements is that taxes go up as negotiated, but Congress doesn’t deliver the promised spending cuts. No past deal poisoned the well more than the 1990 budget pact, in which President Bush infamously broke his ‘no new taxes’ pledge…

“Back in 1990, the establishment was saying the same things about the need for a ‘balanced approach’ in which all sides sacrifice something to reduce the deficit. Yet what we ended up with in reality was a deal that raised taxes and slashed military spending (in other words, the liberal approach) while entitlements and non-defense discretionary spending rose by an even higher amount than was projected before a deal. Is it any wonder that today’s conservatives are deeply suspicious of budget deals in which Republicans agree to raise taxes in exchange for promised spending cuts?”

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“The media will initially be all excited about the deal, but will turn almost instantly towards declaring it has no chance to pass, seizing on every criticism of the package or declaration of opposition as sure-fire signs the proposal is dead. The outcry against the package (both before and after the details are known) will be intense on both the left and the right. Interest groups from all quarters will denounce the measure as unacceptable. National security conservatives, for example, will declare that the Pentagon cuts will eviscerate America’s ability to defend itself; liberal groups will deem the entitlement reductions unacceptable. Thumbs down will also come from Paul Krugman, Rush Limbaugh, and every Republican running for president in 2012…

“As the House prepares to vote, the media will declare again that there is virtually no chance of passage. Strange-bedfellow allies, including prominent elements of Big Business and Big Labor – plus, inevitably, Bill Clinton – will make the ‘don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good’ argument in public and in private. As the measure’s details become more known, there will be another round of fly-specking from webizens of the left and the right, declaring the package the worst thing ever considered by Congress in American history. Obama will give some blockbuster speech explaining why the bill must pass. The measure will appear dead both before and immediately after his speech. Then a handful of liberal and conservative House members will come off the fence and declare themselves in favor (some might even flip from declared opposition)…

“And, then, the bill will heart-stoppingly pass the House, with some secret backroom deals and lobbying that will be revealed (if ever) only long after the fact. Reps. Bachmann and Pelosi will vote against. And then it will fully dawn on Boehner and McConnell at the White House signing ceremony (likely as Obama is handing them their souvenir pens) that they were part of history, including part of the part where Obama was able to take off the table the single most damaging issue that could be used against him in 2012.”

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“Politicians have always postured in public and played poker in private, but as both sides dithered over the debt ceiling, even grizzled veterans grew disgusted. ‘My side’s just as guilty. I think we’re going to have a crisis because politics is going to trump the good of the country,’ says Republican Sen. Tom Coburn. ‘It doesn’t sound like there are any real adults any more, including in the White House.’”

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No, Obama.

We can service our debt with the current tax revenue. We reject your calls for tax hikes on job creators. We reject your EPA’s draconian and punitive rules on job creating states. We reject your call for a European Socialist Model that is clearly on display by way of Greece. Americans elected Republicans in record numbers not seen in more than a generation.

We reject YOU, mister Obama. Your move.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 8:35 PM

the White House will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes.

Sure he will. Give him the ultimatum. Obama can’t do squat except sign a conservative bill or shut down the government. Why are they trying to turn a win-win into a lose-lose?

Buddahpundit on July 9, 2011 at 8:36 PM

I bet you that these cuts aren’t real cuts.

SouthernGent on July 9, 2011 at 8:36 PM

What world does Obama live in? Anybody who would want to raise taxes when the unemployment rate is rising to over 9% is a damn moron.

Mark1971 on July 9, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Pass a bill in the House and let Reid take the heat.

pedestrian on July 9, 2011 at 8:38 PM

The Republicans better not fold like cheap lawn furniture. I can see 2012 from my house.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2011 at 8:39 PM

America can service the debt by making interest payments to avoid default. So all of these shenannigans should be thrown off and exposed.

In the interim, while we service our debt and pay our obligations to our Seniors, we will take a very, very close look at Operation Gun Runner (Bush) and Fast and Furious (Obama)and compare and contrast the two different models.

After reading this list of links and chronology, Miss Napolitano’s TSA may wish to examine the much needed depend undergarments that will likely need wearing by the entire Admin vs. the Depend Undergarment of a 95 year old Lukemia patient making her last air voyage to see her family before she died.

Obama. You lose. The link I posted should lead to impeachment hearings for several in this Oministration of desecration that causes desolation throughout our land.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 8:40 PM

The Republicans better not fold like cheap lawn furniture. I can see 2012 from my house.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2011 at 8:39 PM

That’s racist. You just insulted Ms. Patty O’Furniture!

/

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 8:41 PM

lets turn on the wayback machine Sherman…

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/maryhough/gGMFRr

Figures released by the U.S. Labor Department, this morning, show that unemployment has fallen to 8.8%. Speaking earlier today, President Obama said:

Nearly two years after one of the worst recessions we’ve ever seen, our economy is showing signs of real strength. Today we learned that we added 230,000 private sector jobs last month. That makes 1.8 million private sector jobs created in the last thirteen months. And the unemployment rate has now fallen a full point in the last four months. The last time that happened was the recovery of 1984.

Now, despite this good news, we still have plenty of work to do. There are still millions of Americans looking for a job that pays the bills. I know there’s a lot going on in the world, and the news is filled with images of the Middle East and Japan, but you should know that keeping the economy growing and making sure jobs are available is the first thing I think about when I wake up every morning. It’s the last thing I think about when I go to bed each night. And I will not be satisfied until every American who wants a good job can find one; until every family gets a shot at the American Dream. That’s our North Star. That’s what we’re fighting for.

William Amos on July 9, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Promises of future action aren’t credible.

Geez….Ya think??? Can you tell me one thing the jug-eared-messiah hasn’t lied about?

Is there any promise WITHOUT an expiration date in this befuddled dope’s world?

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 8:43 PM

WWMCD?

What Would Mike Castle Do?

SouthernGent on July 9, 2011 at 8:43 PM

What world does Obama live in? Anybody who would want to raise taxes when the unemployment rate is rising to over 9% is a damn moron.

Mark1971 on July 9, 2011 at 8:36 PM

darwin-t on July 9, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 8:40 PM

From your mouth to God’s ears!

katy the mean old lady on July 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM

The concept that the American people are trying to get across: Stop The Spending.

Do not raise the ‘debt limit’

Live within your means.

Very simple ideas that seem to get lost on the elites until they smell the smoke from the vat of tar….

ajacksonian on July 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM

If you’re going to be blamed for being Conservative you might as well be Conservative.
Raise taxes, unemployment goes up, revenue goes down, Democrats have admitted as much, jobs, jobs, jobs.

Its time for another gigantic Tea Party protest parading past the Whitehouse.

“When you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.” – Ronald Reagan

Speakup on July 9, 2011 at 8:45 PM

You know this may not be the popular stance here but I think the GOP is not going to budge. They could have caved several times and they haven’t done it.

Maybe I’m just energized by the MN GOP not budging so I have rose colored glasses on but I think Obama caves first.

gophergirl on July 9, 2011 at 8:45 PM

William Amos on July 9, 2011 at 8:42 PM

In order to get the unemployment down where he needs it by November 2012 – 17 months from now. Obama has to add more than 18,000.00 jobs a month, that’s not going to fuel the Obama bus. That’s not what anyone would describe as high octane numbers.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Didn’t Obama just make a deal back in December not to raise any taxes for two years? Can’t they play that soundbite over and over and over?

ldbgcoleman on July 9, 2011 at 8:47 PM

So does this mean that there won’t be a second golf date?

Mark1971 on July 9, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Shut
It
Down

katy the mean old lady on July 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Walk away Boehner. Walk. Away.

BKeyser on July 9, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Obama just released billions for “jobs for ex cons”.

By next year he’ll sign an executive order so the homeless don’t need an address to register to vote, for Obama, of course.

This is just a sampling.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2011 at 8:52 PM

William Amos on July 9, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Someone needs to create the “Way Back Machine” into an ad, and quote this fool, over, and over, and over again.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Its time for another gigantic Tea Party protest parading past the Whitehouse.

“When you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.” – Ronald Reagan
Speakup on July 9, 2011 at 8:45 PM

The Dick will make sure he’s out of town again.

katy the mean old lady on July 9, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Ironically, Boehner walking out saves entitlements from all the cuts the libs in Congress were screaming about.

Mark1971 on July 9, 2011 at 8:55 PM

This is just a sampling.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Actually, your concerns are spot on. However, have you taken notice of the measures that are now in place or in process of being in place to prevent the dead from voting for Obama in 2012?

The left is up in arms. How DARE you make me show a voter ID and a Photo ID! How DARE you input my SSN into some RNC computer that might prevent me from voting!.

It’s an absolute carnival of stupid. We can laugh when Obama, selling himself for a $5 hit into the dunk tank gets hit in the schnozz by a 3 year old child that expects and deserves a future.

That’s what this Election is All About! Hizzuh

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 8:57 PM

I have no faith in the Republican leadership being able to avoid tax increases. On the other hand, there has been silence as far as I know from the new conservative house members, which could be a sign that they believe Boehner will not agree to new taxes. It has been so long since we have seen effective Republican party use of its power, and here the Republican House has a veto that cannot be overridden. It is actually more powerful in this situation than Obama. That power is thanks to the 2010 voters, and we are watching closely.

GaltBlvnAtty on July 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Ironically, Boehner walking out saves entitlements from all the cuts the libs in Congress were screaming about.

Mark1971 on July 9, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Another great point.

Sarah needs to head up the RNC up till the defeat of Obama.

And then, she can enjoy her pick of posts high up in the new American Administration. She can collectively kick the progressive garbage can back a few generations and preside over a New Day; a Liberation from the Progressive Generation and its Merry Ship of Fools.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Maybe I’m just energized by the MN GOP not budging so I have rose colored glasses on but I think Obama caves first.

gophergirl on July 9, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Boner’s got no cajones….don’t get yer hopes up too high.

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

GaltBlvnAtty on July 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

One of my best bosses once told me: Silence is Golden. Silence throws the fastball of uncertainty to your opponent… Silence can breed contempt. Jesus was silent at many times.

It is the shrieking of the Left that we will see in the coming days.

It is a test of patience.

Patience is a Virtue.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Interesting debt ceiling links but none as good as this one:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150235296718435

We are in desperate need of real leadership, but President Obama’s solution to everything is to grow government by borrowing more money, spending more money, printing more money, and taxing our job creators. He once said that he “believes in American Exceptionalism…just as the Greeks believe in Greek Exceptionalism.” Well, the path he has us on will make us just as “exceptional” as Greece – debt crisis, stagnation, permanent high unemployment, and all.

CTSherman on July 9, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Boner’s got no cajones….don’t get yer hopes up too high.

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

We’ll see – I think this time is different.

gophergirl on July 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Ironically, Boehner walking out saves entitlements from all the cuts the libs in Congress were screaming about.

Mark1971 on July 9, 2011 at 8:55 PM

The Republicans just have to sit tight, because if the entitlement faucet get’s turned off to the folks getting the entitlements, they are not going to be happy with the Democrats, using them for political points. It’s a tricky thing stopping a person’s social security check or medicare coverage. Up to the point that the Dems promise entitlements they know how sensitive the people they give those entitlements to react to their boats being rocked in anyway shape or form. The Democrats will blink they have way more to lose than the Republicans. The Republicans need to stick to their pledge not to raise taxes, that’s what got them the House back in 2010. If they want the Senate back in 2012, they are going to have to hang tuff. The reckoning is here, there is no more kick the can – if they punt, they won’t be in the majority in the House after November 2012. Obama better figure out which side his bread is buttered on. Hint, Nancy has led him down the garden path before.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM

The government of Minnesota has shut down, and I don’t hear anything bad happening in Minnesota because of it.

Just multiply by 50.

Emperor Norton on July 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Boner’s got no cajones….don’t get yer hopes up too high.

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

We’ll see – I think this time is different.

gophergirl on July 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM

If it isn’t different this time, he’s going to lose his position as Speaker of the House in 2012. Let’s see how motivated he is to at least take care of his own job security. Country First, if he can’t figure that out, he needs to get in a new line of work.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM

They could have caved several times and they haven’t done it.

gophergirl on July 9, 2011 at 8:45 PM

The Republican’s caved as soon as they went into Obama’s backroom to negotiate. They should have waited for the Democrats to produce a budget so that, once their expectations are public including all of their tax hikes, we can negotiate between the two sides. Absent a D budget then how can we possibly “compromise” about the unknown? If the Democrats won’t produce a legitimate budget and instead allow the government to shut down, let them suffer the price for their irresponsibility—but in order for the Democrats to pay such a price the government will shut down by their own inaction, and Boehner is desperately trying to avoid that because he’s afraid he’ll get the blame, so instead of insisting on using the legitimately proscribed process for this sort of thing, he finds himself making sinister deals in smoke filled back rooms.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Promises of future action aren’t credible

tru dat!

mr leave the rhetoric at the door will be doing just that after sundays little summitt

cmsinaz on July 9, 2011 at 9:09 PM

We’ll see – I think this time is different.

gophergirl on July 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Unfortunately it can’t be different this time because Boehner only has one single lever, and he very publicly threw it away months ago. This is all just a dog and pony show.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:10 PM

What world does Obama live in? Anybody who would want to raise taxes when the unemployment rate is rising to over 9% is a damn moron.

Mark1971 on July 9, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Exactly. Nevermind the Laffer curve debate, you just don’t raise taxes during a recession, especially one as apocalyptic as this. Hasn’t that been a given for decades?

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2011 at 9:10 PM

WH is demanding major, unambiguous tax hikes……Mr. Boehner shouldn’t bet his majority on Mr. Obama’s promises.”

don’t get squishy boehner, for the love of pete

cmsinaz on July 9, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Boehner is desperately trying to avoid that because he’s afraid he’ll get the blame, so instead of insisting on using the legitimately proscribed process for this sort of thing, he finds himself making sinister deals in smoke filled back rooms.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:07 PM

He needs to stop – he’s playing into their game, on their turf. He can go down in the history books as “Somebody” or he can go down as an Asterisk. It’s his call – This is for all the marbles.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2011 at 9:12 PM

“The bipartisan consensus on tax reform (broader base & lower rates) was championed by President’s fiscal commission, and yet now is being rebuked by the President.

epic fail

he should be banned for creating any more commissions…absolutely worthless

cmsinaz on July 9, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Boehner is desperately trying to avoid that because he’s afraid he’ll get the blame, so instead of insisting on using the legitimately proscribed process for this sort of thing, he finds himself making sinister deals in smoke filled back rooms.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:07 PM

I hope he’s just faking them out.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM

This is all just a dog and pony show.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:10 PM

X10000

darwin-t on July 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Name one (1), just one (1) government program or bureaucracy that has been “cut”, not cut in growth, but eliminated, in the past 50 years…

… just one (1) will do.

(I’ll be watching NASCAR waiting for the answer…)

Seven Percent Solution on July 9, 2011 at 9:18 PM

borrow money to pay interest on borrowed money that was borrowed to pay interest on borrowed money…

suckers…

equanimous on July 9, 2011 at 9:18 PM

The reckoning is here, there is no more kick the can – if they punt, they won’t be in the majority in the House after November 2012. Obama better figure out which side his bread is buttered on. Hint, Nancy has led him down the garden path before.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM

You are right. Here is the Republican Message.

We have no desire to eliminate benefits to our Seniors; the greatest generation this Nation has ever known.

We must begin to address the “benefits” being given to able bodied Americans who receive tax refunds when they pay no taxes.

Very simple, very strong.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:22 PM

“The bipartisan consensus on tax reform (broader base & lower rates) was championed by President’s fiscal commission, and yet now is being rebuked by the President. Lowering top rates that would help make America more competitive was too large a leap for a true class warrior.”

Does this ever say it all.

INC on July 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Using the Prez’s own words….elections have consequences! Get over it, your side lost!

rich8450 on July 9, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Anyone who is even thinking about buying Barry’s “balanced approach” rhetoric ought to ask him or herself what one thing is that Barack Obama has proposed or achieved that one could call “balanced.” Name one thing. Obama lives on the far-left fringes of his party. “Balanced” to him means socialism mixed with lunacy.

Rational Thought on July 9, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Seven Percent Solution on July 9, 2011 at 9:18 PM

2012 is not the End of the World.

2012 is the End of the Progressive Era.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:27 PM

So get a bill through the House(no sweat) and bully one through the Senate (tough) and let The Won veto it.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2011 at 9:30 PM

We’ll see – I think this time is different.

gophergirl on July 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM
If it isn’t different this time, he’s going to lose his position as Speaker of the House in 2012. Let’s see how motivated he is to at least take care of his own job security. Country First, if he can’t figure that out, he needs to get in a new line of work.

Dr Evil on July 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM

It IS different. I think that’s why he gets emotional at times. He knows what is at stake and I don’t think he’ll let the Nation down. He has a lot on his shoulders and deserves some prayers.

There is a very simple answer. We CAN service our debt (pay the interest) and meet our obligations. There is no more need for the “sky is falling” mentality. WE have heard this mantra for the last 29 months, and enough is enough.

Service the debt; pay our Seniors and our Military and let the chips fall where they may.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:31 PM

The Won’s biggest fear?

He won’t be the Won.

He’ll be the Own.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Yeah sorry forgot to post that my link was to an Obama quote from April of this year

William Amos on July 9, 2011 at 9:33 PM

The GOP leadership should have put Paul Ryan in videos explaining his plan instead of letting the left define it. Now they should put Marco Rubio out there in a commercial saying we need more taxpayers, not more taxes. I seldom write to my representatives, but my Congressman Dana Rohrabacher is one of my Facebook friends and I’m posting a message on his page right away. We’re weeks away from the alleged debt ceiling deadline and they better not cave.

Terrie on July 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Rational Thought on July 9, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Good point. In order to have a “balanced approach” there has to be something on both sides of the fulcrum to balance, meaning there has to be two sides. The Republican’s have produced a budget, where is the Democrat budget? How can there be a balanced approach to compromise, if that’s even appropriate, (which it’s not), when the Democrats haven’t even produced a budget as required?

It would be so easy to finish off the Democrats for a generation, right now and in the next election, if only we had some halfway decent Republican leadership with a reasonable amount of intellectual horsepower.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Terrie on July 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Don’t underestimate The Architect.

The Won? or The Own?

Choose Again, America.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:27 PM

One would certainly think so….then you turn on MSLSD or pick up a NYT or a WaPo.

There are still alot of incredibly stupid sh!ts (libs) out there.

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 9:37 PM

I think part of the problem is that the Republican leadership is so beholden to the MSM that they actually buy into a lot of their memes. Republican leaders are so caught up in lefty propaganda that they don’t even have a clear vision of reality and are lost in the fog.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Seven Percent Solution on July 9, 2011 at 9:18 PM

The Space Program.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 9:39 PM

I like to think the folks in the W.H. are just plain stupid that they don’t comprehend how we got to this place ~ overspending. I like to think that because the alternative has dark, dark connotations and scares the bejeebus out of me.

greeneyedconservative on July 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM

It would be so easy to finish off the Democrats for a generation, right now and in the next election, if only we had some halfway decent Republican leadership with a reasonable amount of intellectual horsepower.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM

They’re out there. The Democrat Party?

SEIU
CODE PINK
AFL-CIO
COMMUNIST PARTY USA
Et Al

Just. Say. It.

America is listening.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:45 PM

I think part of the problem is that the Republican leadership is so beholden to the MSM that they actually buy into a lot of their memes. Republican leaders are so caught up in lefty propaganda that they don’t even have a clear vision of reality and are lost in the fog.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:39 PM

It’s been a problem for decades……I was hoping that the relatively recent rise and success of alternative media including Talk radio and the internet, the rise of the TEA Party, as well as our success in the mid-terms, would have given the Republican leadership some intestinal fortitude to finally throw off those shackles.

Instead….we’ve got a limp Boner.

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Not raising the debt ceiling would force a cut in spending…doesn’t the GOP want smaller government?

equanimous on July 9, 2011 at 9:45 PM

You people are nuts. The left is in disarray. It is just the goofy right that is not gonna get what they want.

Someone better demonstrate that the administration has failed. The idiots who are fighting so hard about taxes are failing to make that point to the American people. Give them what they want. It will not work. Socialism never does.

In a perverse way, it is a shame that the Dems couldn’t be allowed to raise taxes. Trust me, the bankrupt European nations are not being used as lessons by the media.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 9:46 PM

I like to think the folks in the W.H. are just plain stupid that they don’t comprehend how we got to this place ~ overspending. I like to think that because the alternative has dark, dark connotations and scares the bejeebus out of me.

greeneyedconservative on July 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM

They. Are. Not. Stupid. They. Know. What. They. Are. Doing.

/And? So do we.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Remember those of you who actually pay taxes, the bottom 50% are entitled to be SHARED your SACRIFICE, it’s the Marxist-American way.

Chip on July 9, 2011 at 9:51 PM

If you took your average government worker and had a heart to heart?

Do you like your job?
Do you want to keep your job?
Do you believe that within your job you are serving the American people?

Do you feel more entitled than someone in a same/similar position to earn more, receive more, reap more than the average taxpaying neighbor?

Do you believe that I, who already pays your salary should contribute more to your retirement plan when I have none of my own?

OBAMA? Define social justice you jacka@@ fool.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:51 PM

You people are nuts. The left is in disarray. It is just the goofy right that is not gonna get what they want.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Bzzzzt! Wrong!

After Obama won the election all of you RINO’s were saying that the era of Reagan was over, and some even wondered if the Republican Party could survive. Many of you RINO’s were perfectly happy with it. It was the tea party that pulled the Republican Party out of the fire and tried to save it, not RINO’s.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:52 PM

We need to change this discussion around. We should be telling our representatives that we will not support a debt ceiling increase under any circumstance.
Instead we need to be demand a debt ceiling reduction! The government currently takes in way more revenue than the interest due on the debt. We should be able to pay that interest, and someof the principle on current revenues. And it should be done before any non-funded spending. Social security and Medicare are not involved, as they are currently funded through their own tax systems.

paulsur on July 9, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Even if Mr. Obama is sincere on tax reform,

Yeah, good one.

Chip on July 9, 2011 at 9:53 PM

You people are nuts. The left is in disarray. It is just the goofy right that is not gonna get what they want.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 9:46 PM

…and now, after the tea party has pulled your pathetic R party out of the fire and tried to revitalize it, you and your RINO friends are all, “well, so what if you damn tea partiers don’t get what you want, at least us RINO’s are happy.” Well we pulled the Republican Party out of the fire, we can throw it back in.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Sincere Request

I saw Warren Buffet on CNBC the other day and he was quizzed on the budged imbroglio.

He deflected every conservative charge on the subject and actually made the system seem to be totally unfair. He said that he was protected like a bald eagle. Remember who he supported in the last election. But I think his view is distorted by the comfort of a huge firm. The little guys scrape for pennies and resent taxes but produce most of the jobs.

I have been experiencing that myself. Smaller firms I invest in really struggle. The small oil frims are an example. Shell does not need the tax breaks and sweeteners half as much as they do. Warren has too many advantages, it seems.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 9:58 PM

I want to see Warren ambushed or debated.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Chip on July 9, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Shared sacrifice will end when Welfare programs end. I want my sister who is a welfare hoe to get a job because she is able to do more than birth babies. I want my sister to study, or do SOMETHING.. ANYTHING, to get a job. To stop signing my neices and nephews up for SSDI by putting them on medication that they have no business being on.

There are two peoples. Not black and white. Workers and slackers.

This experiment by BHO will end in the complete and total liberation of blacks.

Teh Won?
Or The Own?

When will his administration be accountable? Barry’s exempt; he’s affirmative action. What a farking let down for the black children of America.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 9:52 PM

1) I never said any such thing.

2) Compared to me you are a RINO.

3) The tea party hasn’t done a thing yet.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Including part of the part where Obama was able to take off the table the single most damaging issue that could be used against him in 2012.”

Wow, a shared screwing .. er… Sacrifice of the taxpayers will solve the Democrat’s economy?

Along with The entitlement problem created in part by FDR’s Social security and LBJ’s Medicare.

In addition to the fact that Obama doesn’t have any decent accomplishment to his name.

Not to mention all the other Obama screw-ups over the past couple of years.

Chip on July 9, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Rut roh. My posts are being abolished.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 10:03 PM

All I referenced was my sister being on welfare.

Sheesh.

Night, love to all.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Speaker B:

- STAY THE COURSE!

- NO NEW TAXES!

- LET PBHO CUT THE PROGRAMS (he can’t vote ‘present’ on this one)

That sound you hear in the background is the Tea Party EXPRESS!

Be afraid… BE VERY AFRAID!!

Khun Joe on July 9, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Rut roh. My posts are being abolished.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Clean up that gosh darn potty-mouth…….(lol)

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 10:06 PM

from “should we raise the debt ceiling” to “when we raise the debt ceiling” in under six months…the media works wonders…

equanimous on July 9, 2011 at 10:06 PM

3) The tea party hasn’t done a thing yet.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Pelosi is OUT as Speaker…

Khun Joe on July 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM

What world does Obama live in? Anybody who would want to raise taxes when the unemployment rate is rising to over 9% is a damn moron.

Yes, Alan Greenspan, Alan Simpson, Paul O’Neill and countless Republican economists and Wall Street experts are all morons. It must be difficult to be such a genius living in a world of smaller minds.

I saw Warren Buffet on CNBC the other day and he was quizzed on the budged imbroglio.

He deflected every conservative charge on the subject and actually made the system seem to be totally unfair. He said that he was protected like a bald eagle

Buffet, Gates, Zuckerberg, and most of the other great capitalists of our era want you to raise taxes on those earning over $1 mil per year, and give tax breaks to entrepreneurs. In his view, his low tax rate amounts to an outlandish protection of his wealth.

bayam on July 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM

3) The tea party hasn’t done a thing yet.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Pelosi is OUT as Speaker…

Khun Joe on July 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Ka-BLAM!

next

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 10:08 PM

Barack Obama’s big government policies continue to fail. He should put a link to the national debt clock on his BlackBerry. The gears on that clock have nearly exploded during his administration. Yesterday’s terrible job numbers should not be a surprise because it all goes back to our debt. Our dangerously unsustainable debt is wiping out our jobs, crippling our economic growth, and jeopardizing our position in the global economy as the leader of the free world.

unseen on July 9, 2011 at 10:10 PM

We need to change this discussion around. We should be telling our representatives that we will not support a debt ceiling increase under any circumstance.
Instead we need to be demand a debt ceiling reduction! The government currently takes in way more revenue than the interest due on the debt. We should be able to pay that interest, and someof the principle on current revenues. And it should be done before any non-funded spending. Social security and Medicare are not involved, as they are currently funded through their own tax systems.

paulsur on July 9, 2011 at 9:53 PM

According to the GOP and the Democrats and the media you are insane…

equanimous on July 9, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Buffet, Gates, Zuckerberg, and most of the other great capitalists of our era want you to raise taxes on those earning over $1 mil per year, and give tax breaks to entrepreneurs. In his view, his low tax rate amounts to an outlandish protection of his wealth.

bayam on July 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM

All of them are free to make additional voluntary contributions to the government. So, it can’t really be his own wealth that Mr. Buffett is worried about.

massrighty on July 9, 2011 at 10:11 PM

media Media

equanimous on July 9, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Lowering top rates that would help make America more competitive was too large a leap for a true class warrior.”

Bingo..Described Opie to a t..:)

PS..That is a very good article..:)

Dire Straits on July 9, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM

g’nite KWR and the rest of the HA crew

cmsinaz on July 9, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 10:03 PM

I hate when that happens.

BTW, don’t tell floating rock about the Gallup Poll in April on the Tea Party. He would have a sinking feeling.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM

bayam on July 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM

If they’re such geniuses then surely they’re capable of figuring out how to donate their money to charity. Maybe they’re not as smart as you give them credit for. Maybe wealth doesn’t necessarily correlate with genius.

FloatingRock on July 9, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Buffet, Gates, Zuckerberg, and most of the other great capitalists of our era want you to raise taxes on those earning over $1 mil per year, and give tax breaks to entrepreneurs.

bayam on July 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Too bad most of the time they are the same people or would like to be, how do you distinguish between them?

Chip on July 9, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 10:08 PM

And I have a magical hat that chases fairies away.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 10:16 PM

OBAMA? Define social justice you jacka@@ fool.

Key West Reader on July 9, 2011 at 9:51 PM

I am struck by how old the communist meme of “social justice” is. I am currently reading Ayn Rand’s We the Living, set in the 1920′s Russian post-revolutionary/counter-revolutionary world. The novel was written in the 1930′s. The term “social justice” is foisted on those still resisting the communist/soviet socialist propaganda. Jobs, educational opportunities, housing, and access to health care or scare food rations are given first to the proletariat, especially those who belong to the party. More “taxes” are assessed to the former bourgeoise to repair breakdowns in building infrastuctures even though these people may be sharing their seized housing with workers who pay little or nothing towards the upkeep. Former factory and business owners have had their assets nationalized and given over to the supervision of corrupt party cronies. It is sickening to see our own country unravel right before our eyes with the same double-talk.

onlineanalyst on July 9, 2011 at 10:17 PM

And I have a magical hat that chases fairies away.

IlikedAUH2O on July 9, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Can I borrow it….? I live in Southern California, and it would make it real easy to get a parking space.

Tim_CA on July 9, 2011 at 10:17 PM

come on guys you all know the GOp will cave. It’s what they do. It’s all they do.

Why even waste the breath to debate it. The gop will cave. Unless some leaders put some backbone into them.

unseen on July 9, 2011 at 10:18 PM

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