Another high-profile rape case collapsing?

posted at 3:15 pm on July 7, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

While the prosecution of the indictment for rape against Dominique Strauss-Kahn looks flimsier after revelations about the alleged victim in the case, another high-profile rape case appears in danger of foundering on the credibility of the accuser.  Four years ago, Jamie Leigh Jones made headlines and became a cause celebre on the Left after accusing KBR employees of gang-raping her and the company of imprisoning her when she attempted to report the crime.  The lurid accusations and Jones’ singular drive to seek justice, combined with the controversial American military action in Iraq and questions about the control the US had over its contractors there, made Jones into a celebrity, and she plays a starring role in a new documentary about the struggle to access the justice system in America.

The story fell out of the headlines a few years back, but Jones now finds herself in the trial she sought in a civil suit against KBR.  But as Mother Jones reports, Jones may well lose her case, thanks to a raft of evidence that rebuts most of her accusations and statements in the last four years:

Jones’ trial, which started on June 13, is highlighting significant holes and discrepancies in her story. Not only has the federal trial judge already thrown out large portions of her case, evidence introduced in the trial raises the question of whether Jones has exaggerated and embellished key aspects of her story.

None of this means that Jones was not raped in Iraq. But the evidence does undermine her credibility and could create serious doubts in jurors’ minds.

Mother Jones is hardly an unsympathetic outlet for the case, so the detailed report from Stephanie Mencimer is all the more remarkable, and particularly well-written.  Mencimer had previously thought that KBR’s court filings accusing Jones of fabricating key components of the case was a sign that “KBR was headed to the gutter” to discredit her.  The court filings that Mencimer has read now indicate that KBR wasn’t trying to bluff Jones into a settlement, but had good reason to make those accusations.  She compiles quite a list of Jones’ statements that evidence now contradicts, including key components of the case:

  • Jones accused an unknown KBR employee of spiking her drink with a date-rape drug.  No such drug was found in her system, but testimony indicates that Jones drank more than she admitted and may have been drunk enough for amnesia.
  • The original accusation was that of gang rape, but the evidence strongly suggests that sexual contact took place with just one man — who insists that the contact was consensual.
  • She claimed that KBR locked her in a container and surrounded it with armed guards.  Not only does KBR not have armed guards, the imprisonment accusation didn’t arise until two years after she first filed a sexual-harassment complaint over the incident with the EEOC.
  • Jones also insisted that she never had any history of mental problems, but her medical records indicate that she had been prescribed medication for bipolar condition, an anti-depressant, and an anti-anxiety drug before she started working at KBR.
  • Her medical records also “suggest” that Jones has made other accusations of rape and/or sexual assault, once at KBR and one time before her employment, separate from these allegations.  The alleged incident at KBR predated her transfer to Iraq by a few months.

Finally, one of the claims that Jones makes in her civil suit is that her treatment by KBR has left her an agoraphobic, unable to leave her house or pursue a career.  Mencimer reports on the evidence that disputes that claim:

Jones has maintained that the attack in Iraq has rendered her agoraphobic, afraid to leave the house alone, unable to work, and unable to sleep. She has filed disability claims to this effect. As a result of these claims and her lawsuit, Jones has undergone extensive psychological evaluations. That paper trail contains several land mines.

Some of the conflicts are fairly obvious. At the same time Jones was telling therapists and psychiatrists that she was virtually disabled by post-traumatic stress disorder and could not work, leave the house, drive, or have meaningful relationships with men, she has completed three college degrees, including an MBA; gotten married; had two babies; worked as a teacher and now as a part-time college professor; testified repeatedly before Congress; gone on TV; appeared in a documentary; and started a foundation to support women working as contractors overseas. It’s not the résumé of someone as paralyzed by trauma as Jones has claimed to various therapists and psychologists.

And that’s not all.  Mencimer also reports that Jones and her attorney had been shopping a book and/or screenplay based on her story.  A producer of documentaries, Paul Pompian, bought the rights and is trying to make a film and have a book written to support it.  When KBR found out, they demanded access to the manuscript and its supporting documents, which Jones’ attorney attempted to block by declaring the project “a work of fiction.”

As Mencimer says, that doesn’t mean Jones didn’t get raped in Iraq.  The circumstances of the acknowledged single sexual encounter are murky, and one can also consider whether a woman so drunk as to incur amnesia can truly give effective consent to sex as an issue.  Since this is a civil case and not a criminal prosecution, there is a lower standard of proof than in the DSK case in New York City.  In both instances, though, the alleged victim appears to have misrepresented the facts of the case — and since both cases come down to the credibility of the victim, it’s likely that neither will get the outcome they sought.

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accusing KBR employees

OK, I’m an ignoramus.
What’s a KBR?

itsnotaboutme on July 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Man, this case must have been so high-profiled, it went right over my head. Up until 25 seconds ago, I never heard of Jamie Leigh Jones.

pilamaye on July 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM

accusing KBR employees

OK, I’m an ignoramus.
What’s a KBR?

itsnotaboutme on July 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Sounds like a new sandwich being served at Burger King

pilamaye on July 7, 2011 at 3:20 PM

OK, I’m an ignoramus.
What’s a KBR?

itsnotaboutme on July 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Want some company?

Cindy Munford on July 7, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Kellogg, Brown and Root, a contractor doing business in Iraq.

JohnTant on July 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM

*whew*
Glad at least that I’m not the only one who doesn’t know.
Ed, you’re too smart for us!

itsnotaboutme on July 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM

It still seems wrong to me that someone can sue to collect money from a company because of things their employees did on their own.

Count to 10 on July 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM

So was this woman supposedly raped when KBR was working its non-compete contract in Iraq under the direction of Bush, or when KBR was working its non-compete contract in Kosovo under the direction of Clinton?

Bishop on July 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM

OK, I’m an ignoramus.
What’s a KBR?

itsnotaboutme on July 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM

A subsidiary of Haliburton that provided civilian contractors in Iraq.

Hollowpoint on July 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Is that the same Mother Jones who has a female author who submitted herself to a set-up rape - on herself – so she could claim PTSD by proxy for her investigation in rapes in Haiti?

catmman on July 7, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Kellogg Brown & Root
Engineering Purchasing and Construction Company
Civil projects and Oil & Gas projects

tomg51 on July 7, 2011 at 3:25 PM

OK, I’m an ignoramus.
What’s a KBR?

itsnotaboutme on July 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Formerly Kellogg Brown & Root?

Schadenfreude on July 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Hollowpoint on July 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM

KBR is not a subsidiary any longer…Halliburton sold off KBR several years ago because KBR had earnings problems.

JohnTant on July 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM

These phony rape claims really hurt those who are telling the truth about their rapes.

portlandon on July 7, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Is that the same Mother Jones who has a female author who submitted herself to a set-up rape – on herself – so she could claim PTSD by proxy for her investigation in rapes in Haiti?

catmman on July 7, 2011 at 3:25 PM

That’s not quite how it happened- she claimed she had PTSD by proxy after interviewing a rape victim in Haiti, and says she “cured” it by simulating rape (consensually) with a trusted friend that she’d previously had rough sex with in the past.

Hollowpoint on July 7, 2011 at 3:29 PM

OK, I’m an ignoramus.
What’s a KBR?

itsnotaboutme on July 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM

I’m even worse. Who’s Jamie Leigh Jones?

a capella on July 7, 2011 at 3:29 PM

KBR is not a subsidiary any longer…Halliburton sold off KBR several years ago because KBR had earnings problems.

JohnTant on July 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Ah, I stand corrected then.

Hollowpoint on July 7, 2011 at 3:30 PM

I’m even worse. Who’s Jamie Leigh Jones?

a capella on July 7, 2011 at 3:29 PM

What…you’ve never seen Halloween?!

JohnTant on July 7, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Hollowpoint on July 7, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Thanks for the clarification.

B!tch still crazy.

catmman on July 7, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Simply amazing. This nation is going down the tubes, because the populace has become a cesspool.

paul1149 on July 7, 2011 at 3:34 PM

I had never heard of this case before either.

It sounds to me like another case of hangover regrets the next morning. I saw a lot of that in college.

I’ve warned my kids about it, especially the boys. Don’t get caught alone with a girl who has been drinking. She can claim anything she wants to and you will be charged without question and your life ruined, guilty or not.

I’ve also warned my daughter not to ever drink enough to get drunk. There are men out there who will take advantage of the situation. I’ve also warned her never to leave a drink unattended.

Back during the first days of ‘women’s lib’ there were a lot of false claims of sexual harassment in the work place. To protect himself, my dad would never be alone in a room with a woman – ever. People today need to think about things like that in a work situation.

Common Sense on July 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM

I get a kick out of people proudly claiming that they never heard of this or the Anthony case because they were too busy reading the real news.

Believe it or not, some people can do both.

You-Eh-Vee on July 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM

What…you’ve never seen Halloween?!

JohnTant on July 7, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Too funny!!!

PatriotRider on July 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM

So, the KBR case and the DSK case are SOL…?

d1carter on July 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Simply amazing. This nation is going down the tubes, because the populace has become a cesspool.

paul1149 on July 7, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Rome. Watch the cakes being handed out by current thugs, circa mid year 2012.

Schadenfreude on July 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM

“What…you’ve never seen Halloween?!” — JohnTant, 3:31 p.m.

Thanks, Mr. Tant; after the Casey Anthony verdict, I needed a good guffaw.

KyMouse on July 7, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Evidence?!

Its the seriousness of the charge that matters!!!!1!

iurockhead on July 7, 2011 at 3:38 PM

KBR goes back to LBJ’s favorite, Brown&Root out of Houston.They built VietNam for the North to use after we left.

docflash on July 7, 2011 at 3:39 PM

She has a good chance of prevailing. All they need is for the majority of the jury to be pacifists who hate Hallibarton and for her lawyers to throw enough spaghetti at the wall. We’ve seen that in one case this week, in which a murdered little girl’s killer went free.

I wouldn’t chalk this up as a slam-dunk for KBR by any means.

unclesmrgol on July 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM

The junior senator from Minnesota, Al Franken, made this case a pet cause.

Nothing political ’bout it, no sirree Bob.

Bruno Strozek on July 7, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Lorien approaching the pattern in 5 ,4, 3, 2, …..

Jimmy Doolittle on July 7, 2011 at 3:42 PM

“… she has completed three college degrees, including an MBA; gotten married; had two babies; worked as a teacher and now as a part-time college professor; testified repeatedly before Congress; gone on TV; appeared in a documentary; and started a foundation to support women working as contractors overseas.”

Looks like the DSM-IV TR will have to update the defenition for agoraphobia

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Seven Percent Solution on July 7, 2011 at 3:43 PM

These phony rape claims really hurt those who are telling the truth about their rapes.

portlandon on July 7, 2011 at 3:28 PM

This. I feel awful for all those actualvictims who will be looked out with a jaded eye because of Crystal Magnum, this woman and those like her.

Washington Nearsider on July 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM

KBR is not a subsidiary any longer…Halliburton sold off KBR several years ago because KBR had earnings problems.

JohnTant on July 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Ah, I stand corrected then.

Hollowpoint on July 7, 2011 at 3:30 PM

It’s still Dick Cheney’s fault.

slickwillie2001 on July 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Dang,she has been really busy. I guess it is safe to say she has risen above all her stated “handicaps”, good for her. I think juries in civil cases usually hope they will be treated well if they get a chance at winning the “lottery”.

Cindy Munford on July 7, 2011 at 3:46 PM

How interesting. Sounds like a drunk regretted the sex to me but who knows.
These alleged rape cases are sad. They do nothing for victims and turn this accuser, like many others, into darlings of the left.
When there is nothing to be gained from this woman any longer, she will be forgotten. I hope this company fights with everything they’ve got. Let a jury decide.

ORconservative on July 7, 2011 at 3:50 PM

These phony rape claims really hurt those who are telling the truth about their rapes.

portlandon on July 7, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Phony rape charges and supporting weakening the rules of evidence in rape cases are tactics of feminists who want to criminalize heterosexual sex.

Bill C on July 7, 2011 at 3:50 PM

This is why affirmative action is such a tragedy. Companies are afraid to fire employees who turn out to be nuts because they don’t want a discrimination suit.

Bill C on July 7, 2011 at 3:53 PM

and one can also consider whether a woman so drunk as to incur amnesia can truly give effective consent to sex as an issue.

So if Jones is successful because of the alcohol-induced amnesia, can Bristol sue Levi?

ConservativeinCO on July 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM

I thought her story smelled from the get-go.

And Mother Jones is being careful these days, as one of their writers staged her own rape to help her recover from second degree PTSD…or something.

Weird

PattyJ on July 7, 2011 at 3:59 PM

To protect himself, my dad would never be alone in a room with a woman – ever. People today need to think about things like that in a work situation.

Common Sense on July 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM

I worked for a company where this was standard practice. If it was necessary for a guy to be in a room alone with a girl, the door was required to be left open. They also never sent a man and woman on any business travel together.

I’ve carried that practice with me since then. Beats having to put out rumor fires, at the very least.

CurtZHP on July 7, 2011 at 4:03 PM

I interviewed another KBR rape client taken by the same attorney several years ago. She claimed Jone stole her story, lock, stock and barrel.

I never published that because I had no evidence one way or the other to prove who was telling the truth.

I guess we know now it wasn’t Jones.

Bob Owens on July 7, 2011 at 4:03 PM

that doesn’t mean Jones didn’t get raped in Iraq

Actually it does. The ONLY evidence of rape is her word. We now know her word is worthless.

When someone is exposed as a liar, it doesn’t mean we still have to believe everything they’ve said which hasn’t yet been disproved. It means the opposite – we must require more than her word alone to believe anything she says.

This myth that “women don’t lie about rape” was never ever true for one second.

Adjoran on July 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Bob Owens on July 7, 2011 at 4:03 PM

That’s weird. Did the other lady press charges?

Cindy Munford on July 7, 2011 at 4:10 PM

It seems to me that the defendant in the case is KBR, not the individual person with whom Jones had sex. And if this entire case comes down to he said, she said in regards to sex with one other person, no way is Jones getting squat from KBR. The guy she is accusing is not OJ, so there is no point in suing HIM in civil court.

So that kinda answers the question above about a company being held liable for the actions of their employees. She claims the company took extraordinary action to cover up this “rape” and that appears not to be the case. I doubt she gets a dime.

deadrody on July 7, 2011 at 4:10 PM

The fact that her employment contract contained an arbitration clause was a big issue in the news a while back. Many on the left claimed KBR was trying to protect its employees from the consequences of criminal acts by using an arbitration clause, although obviously the arbitration clause only applied to civil claims. There were a lot of claims that the arbitration clause was somehow unconstitutional. Arbitration clauses are very common in employment and other contracts, and are usually upheld. There is a strong federal policy favoring arbitration for civil claims. She fought to get around the arbitration clause so she could pursue her claims in court, and was apparently successful, although I don’t know why. Sounds like she might have done better if she had stuck to arbitration. Anyway, that’s all I really knew about this case.

mbs on July 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM

and one can also consider whether a woman so drunk as to incur amnesia can truly give effective consent to sex as an issue.

Can one also consider whether a man so drunk as to incur amnesia can truly commit rape? Or does the mental incapacitation through alcohol thing only work for the fairer sex?

SD on July 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM

These phony rape claims really hurt those who are telling the truth about their rapes.

portlandon on July 7, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Not necessarily a phony rape claim. Just because it’s hard to prove doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. This and DSK really sho how hard it is to prove rape, which is why it is massively underreported.

This myth that “women don’t lie about rape” was never ever true for one second.

Adjoran on July 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM

There are fewer phony rape claims than phony auto theft claims. It is falsely reported about the same as other crimes. It’s just hard to prove, and filing charges pretty much guarantees that you’ll be called a whore and worse.

alwaysfiredup on July 7, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Looks like the DSM-IV TR will have to update the defenition for agoraphobia…

Seven Percent Solution on July 7, 2011 at 3:43 PM

She’s clearly been horribly traumatized! Just imagine what she could have accomplished during that same time period had she not been so incredibly fearful of interacting with others! But don’t worry, it’s nothing that a multimillion-dollar settlement (or judgment) won’t fix.

AZCoyote on July 7, 2011 at 4:15 PM

SD on July 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Men who are too drunk physically can’t get an erection so can’t complete the rape.

alwaysfiredup on July 7, 2011 at 4:16 PM

alwaysfiredup on July 7, 2011 at 4:15 PM

As an FYI, there’s no evidence that it’s “massively underreported”

If you compare the criminal survey (people asked – did this crime happen to you?) vs people who reported the crimes to the police, about 30% of alleged rapes go unreported, which, as I recall, was about the same as other violent crimes.

apollyonbob on July 7, 2011 at 4:22 PM

apollyonbob on July 7, 2011 at 4:22 PM

about 60% go unreported. 15 of 16 accused rapists are never convicted. Learn more here.

alwaysfiredup on July 7, 2011 at 4:23 PM

According to the Houston Chronicle the jury has the case now.She is suing 1 guy and KBR for 5% of their gross,114 million.

docflash on July 7, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Kellog, Brown and Root was the drilling arm of Halliburton.

stacman on July 7, 2011 at 4:43 PM

alwaysfiredup on July 7, 2011 at 4:23 PM

For a brief, shining moment, I was hoping that link would take me to someplace with actual, official data. Sad to say, that link takes me someplace with lots of words, very little evidence. (And their citations are suspect, to say the least.) There were approx 89,000 reported rapes according to the FBI. In order for that “60%” unreported to be true, there would have to be ~222,500 rapes.

There is no evidence to support that claim.

apollyonbob on July 7, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Men who are too drunk physically can’t get an erection so can’t complete the rape.

alwaysfiredup on July 7, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Right, a man blacked-out drunk has never had intercourse before. Sure.

SD on July 7, 2011 at 4:58 PM

When KBR’s lawyers first learned of the book deal, they went to court seeking access to the manuscript and other documents. Jones fought the disclosure, arguing that it would diminish the work’s financial value. Jones’ lawyers filed a motion with the court declaring that the manuscript was a work of fiction.

After reading the entire article, it sounds like Jones’ rape claim is also a work of fiction.

AZCoyote on July 7, 2011 at 5:01 PM

SD on July 7, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Honestly, I think we’re pretty much bound for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f–u_puzhGs

apollyonbob on July 7, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Any comment from Senator Stuart Smalley yet?

reddevil on July 7, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Heh, this reminds me of when I was going through Mountain Warfare School and we ran into a cutie and her boyfriend in the local watering hole at base camp, which we called the Snack Bar. They were hiking climbing etc and decided it would be cool to hang and drink with a platoon of infantry Marines.

Drinks flowed and the boyfriend passes out and the mountain bunny was very eager to get to know the boys. After 6 years in the suck I sensed a bad vibe and passed, but many of the team didn’t.

Her boyfriend came around or CP tents the next morning looking for her and caused a big fuss with 1st Sgt over her infidelity. She said she was forced but the bartender and about 30 other patrons quickly shot her down on that count. No charges were pressed, but it could have been ugly.

Top restricted the team to camp and made the Snack Bar OFF LIMITS for the rest of the cycle we were there.

Alden Pyle on July 7, 2011 at 5:26 PM

•Jones also insisted that she never had any history of mental problems, but her medical records indicate that she had been prescribed medication for bipolar condition, an anti-depressant, and an anti-anxiety drug before she started working at KBR.

When I first read that I caught myself thinking: “So what, don’t most people have that nowadays?”

Then I stepped back a second. No, of course not. It only SEEMS that way because nearly everyone you read about in stories like this eventually turn out to have bipolar condition.

logis on July 7, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Not necessarily a phony rape claim. Just because it’s hard to prove doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. This and DSK really sho how hard it is to prove rape, which is why it is massively underreported.

There are fewer phony rape claims than phony auto theft claims. It is falsely reported about the same as other crimes. It’s just hard to prove, and filing charges pretty much guarantees that you’ll be called a whore and worse.

alwaysfiredup on July 7, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Rape cases usually rely on circumstantial evidence. That is why the word of the accuser is so important and why the defense tries to prove the accuser is not telling the truth. So, yes, she might have been raped but when she lies she destroys the evidence by ruining her credibility.

You seem to have bought into the feminist dogma about rape.

Bill C on July 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Alden Pyle on July 7, 2011 at 5:26 PM

logis on July 7, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Questioning the veracity of the accuser is the only defense men have against rape. So the nuts and sluts defense is far from being unfair, it is the way most people determine if someone could have lied in order to protect her reputation, etc. The accuser is put on trial because often it is only her word as evidence.

There is an easy way for women to avoid these situations. Don’t get into bed with a man unless you want to have sex with him.

Bill C on July 7, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Time to dust off the old chestnut “False But Accurate”.

emerson7 on July 7, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Bill C on July 7, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Um, what does that have to do with bipolar disorder?

All I’m saying is that same diagnosis almost always seems to crop up in THESE Munchausen-style cases. I’m not saying it’s “unfair,” I’m just pointing out it has to be a lot more than just a coincidence.

The first time I heard of bi-polar syndrome was years ago when a woman was telling me that the entire town she grew up in was “prejudiced” against her because of her “condition.” I asked what the symptoms were, and after she finished reciting them I realized: This is precisely the same as my definition of the term “scatter-brained psycho b1tch from Hell.” I didn’t actually say that to her of course; I just sort of backed away slowly.

There’s a lot of what I call the “syndrome syndrome” in psychology and medicine in general today. Don’t get me wrong: if someone can diagnose a disease, a cause and/or a cure, that is always incredibly wonderful!

But when all a “doctor” does is tie together an amalgamation of traits and slap a fancy-sounding word onto it, that most definitely does not constitute “practicing medicine.”

And when a psychiatrist goes beyond that mere waste of time, hands someone a more-or-less random coctail of feelgood drugs and tells them they have a “disease” that’s now the responsibility of everyone on planet earth except the “victim” to figure out how to deal with, that’s a gross violation of the first rule of the oath all doctors swear.

logis on July 7, 2011 at 6:10 PM

OK, I’m an ignoramus.
What’s a KBR?

itsnotaboutme on July 7, 2011 at 3:19 PM

KBR = Halliburton

Did the alarm lights go off? Left wing rag, Mother Jones, false claims what else is new?

DSchoen on July 7, 2011 at 7:54 PM

OK, I’m an ignoramus.
What’s a KBR?

KBR = Keep banging redheads?

jarhead0311 on July 7, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Outcome the sought

I think you have a future writing porn. But use simpler words.

Outcome they wanted.

MSimon on July 7, 2011 at 10:39 PM

logis on July 7, 2011 at 6:10 PM

I was using your observation to make the case for what the feminists call “putting the victim on trial” which is really questioning the veracity of the only witness.

If an accuser has a history of mental illness that should be considered relevant to a rape case.

Bill C on July 8, 2011 at 1:09 AM

Hollowpoint on July 7, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Anyone who makes that claim has no understanding whatsoever of PTSD.

Regarding this case, women who falsely accuse men of rape should face more than mere embarrassment–they should pay the penalty they sought, whether it is prison or civil repercussions. Of course, feminists will whine about how that will keep women from reporting this supposedly underreported crime (I have no doubt some women don’t report it–I also have no doubt some women claim to have not reported something that never actually happened).

I am so fed up with how men are treated in and by liberal America.

DrMagnolias on July 8, 2011 at 4:05 AM

I am so fed up with how men are treated in and by liberal America.

DrMagnolias on July 8, 2011 at 4:05 AM

Mega dittos.

Bill C on July 8, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Before the K became part of Brown and Root they were financial supporterS of LBJ down in Texas and have been feeding on the government gravy train for decades. In fact, shortly after LBJ was sworn into office following JFK’s assassination, LBJ awarded Brown and Root a ONE BILLION DOLLAR contract to dredge Cam Rahn Bay in Vietnam. Now that might not seem much to you today with the almost 4 trillion dollar federal budget, but in 1963 the government was being run on around 100 billion or so per year. In fact, if my memory serves me well, JFK’s first budget he presented to Congress was for 98 billion dollars to run the WHOLE FEDERAL GOVENMENT! And, look at the number now……WOW…….

devolvingtowardsidiocracy on July 8, 2011 at 2:33 PM