NYT finds anonymous sources willing to foment Bush/Perry rivalry

posted at 6:35 pm on July 6, 2011 by Tina Korbe

All along, folks have said Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry, should he decide to run for president, might have a “Bush problem.” But, back then, critics used the term to refer to the possible negative associations Perry’s plentiful Bush-isms might evoke. Now, according to The New York Times, Perry might have the opposite problem. He might have distanced himself too much from W. At least, that’s what a few anonymous sources tell The Times:

But in recent years, Mr. Perry has broken politically with Mr. Bush, questioning his credentials as a fiscal conservative, accusing him of going on “a big-government binge” and playing down some of Mr. Bush’s accomplishments in Texas in light of his own.

Mr. Perry’s public statements exposed a long-simmering rivalry that had been little known outside the political fraternity here but underscores the rightward drift of the Republican Party since Mr. Bush was president. More acutely, Mr. Perry’s criticism holds potential peril and benefit for him should he decide to mount a presidential campaign, allowing him to establish an identity distinct from Mr. Bush but risking a guerrilla campaign against him by the former president’s inner circle. …

One close associate of the former president, speaking on the condition of anonymity to avoid a personal confrontation with the governor, warned Mr. Perry against establishing his own conservative bona fides by criticizing Mr. Bush, saying, “If you’re really trying to be the nominee and want to go the distance, you just don’t want the former president of the United States and his people working against you.”

Another, speaking anonymously as well, said, “He’s going to need all the help he can get from all the Republicans he can muster, so he ought to be prudent about that.”

What can I say? It seems perfectly possible that a few disgruntled, loyal Bush aides would wince to hear the current Texas governor — and a potential presidential candidate — criticize their beloved boss and would be all too happy to talk to the NYT about it. But I just don’t think Perry has all that much to worry about from a fellow (or gal) who asks to remain anonymous “to avoid a personal confrontation with the governor.” If, as The Times suggests, these aides aim to conduct a “guerrilla campaign” against Perry to exonerate Bush from any friendly criticism, they’ll have to be a little braver than that. And if Times reporters want readers to believe former Bush aides actually have that aim, they’ll have to more perseveringly encourage their sources to go on the record. It just seems like such a stretch that, out of all the Bush haters in the world, Bush aides would decide to systematically target Perry. Correct his misstatements, of course. Disagree with him, sure. Endorse somebody else, fine. But conduct “a guerrilla campaign” against him? OK.

More importantly, none of the criticisms Perry made — at least none of those cited in the NYT article — seem at all disrespectful. Instead, they seem to proceed from a thoughtful review of certain Bush policies that, however well-intentioned, might not have proved as effective as Perry (or Bush) would have preferred. I’m sure Perry understands the exigencies of the presidency and thinks, as so many do (including me!), that Bush acquitted himself well in office, all things considered. But that doesn’t mean Perry should have to say less-than-ideal policies were actually ideal.

It’s also notable that one of the few OTR sources in the article came from the Perry camp and had a rather different story to tell. Perry’s chief political strategist, David Carney, emphasized the friendship that has always subsisted between Bush and Perry and described their differences pretty simply with, “Same church, different pews.” Carney also said Perry plans to reach out to Bush for advice about whether to run (a decision Perry will supposedly make in the next few weeks).

To be sure, Carney acknowledged the popular impression of a rivalry between the two men, saying that, around the state capital, the rivalry takes on a lore-like cast, that it’s like an “eight-foot alligator in the sewer.” And The Times did, midway through the article, qualify the rivalry as one that festers mostly among aides.

But it seems to me the only “Bush problem” Perry has is the tendency of The Times and other MSM outlets to continually mention Bush in the same breath, instead of evaluating Perry on his own merits. No matter. Perry’s polling well enough anyway, and he’s not even an official candidate.


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Are these the same anonymous sources that said Sarah Palin thought Africa was a country and that Michele Bachmann’s husband is gay and ….?

bw222 on July 6, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Reason to shake in his boots golf shoes.

President Obama has a terrible economic record and the White House and Democrats know it. Defending that record would be a little easier against, say, a Mitt Romney, who implemented a similar health care law in Massachusetts.

But comparing the abysmal Obama record against what Perry has done in Texas would shine a much-needed light on Obama’s failures and give the American public a real choice in 2012.

Schadenfreude on July 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM

They just did him a huge favor if he runs. Now all he needs is the Beltway GOP to start attacking him and his innoculation will be complete.

Kataklysmic on July 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Of course he is breaking with W. You guys will paint him as Bush II or III. Meanwhile the O is driving us off a cliff. Care to report on that?

reddevil on July 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM

So when is Perry going to announce?

Rod on July 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM

4. Perry Has Core Convictions

Recently Governor Perry allowed his Labrador Retriever to accompany him on his daily six mile jog. While on his run, he and his pet were accosted by a menacing coyote. After remaining still and waiting to see what the wild coyote would do, the governor pulled out a .380 Ruger and shot the coyote dead when it become apparent the coyote was after his pup.

When he returned to the governor’s office he was queried about his “heartless” actions towards “innocent” animals. After answering more than one question on the matter, and in a mildly exasperated manner he replied, “Don’t go after my dog!” In other words while the press was confused about his value system, he saw it in very simple terms.

Gov. Perry’s commonsense approach to problems and his core convictions resonate with the average American voter. There is such a thing as right and wrong. Not everything or everyone needs a presidential Blue Ribbon Commission to determine what’s wrong and what’s right.

Schadenfreude on July 6, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Ooooh. We could have a lot of fun with the MSM here, folks…

cynccook on July 6, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Perry/Palin

Palin/Perry

Or any, with anyone else…

Schadenfreude on July 6, 2011 at 6:43 PM

After remaining still and waiting to see what the wild coyote would do, the governor pulled out a .380 Ruger and shot the coyote dead when it become apparent the coyote was after his pup.

Okay, I have a hard enough time keeping my ipod Nano with me when I run. How does he manage to keep his .38 attached???

cynccook on July 6, 2011 at 6:43 PM

“President Obama and I inherited a country/state from GWB. Look what we each did with it” — Perry bus and other…

Enough to give the Obots nightmares.

Schadenfreude on July 6, 2011 at 6:44 PM

a guerrilla campaign against him by the former president’s inner circle. …

Wishful thinking.

iurockhead on July 6, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Okay, I have a hard enough time keeping my ipod Nano with me when I run. How does he manage to keep his .38 attached???

cynccook on July 6, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Next attack in that vein: He had a laser sight on the gun. Unfair advantage.

iurockhead on July 6, 2011 at 6:47 PM

I love how the Republican party has shifted to the right since Bush. Now, I don’t disagree, but I eagerly await the NYT and other liberal media telling us in 2020 how the Republican Party has shifted to the right since President Perry was in office.

I’ve been told be a reliable source that George W. Bush was a fascist. How much more “right” can we go?

Aquateen Hungerforce on July 6, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Didn’t McCain have a Bush problem? And he tried to keep his distance as much as possible and that worked out really well. Perry is MUCH more nimble on his feet than W, and is a very good retail politician.

One thing I will say about the Perry folks, they are ruthless and will go for the jugular without hesitation. KBH was the most popular politician in the state and they absolutely pole axed her. If he gets in this thing Gov. Perry & his team will be in it to win, make no mistake. His record is mixed, anyone who has been gov for as long as he has will have a mixed record, but he knows how to win races and isn’t afraid of the rough & tumble.

lizzie beth on July 6, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Suddenly somebody at HotAir has a problem with anonymous sources?

Faints

portlandon on July 6, 2011 at 6:49 PM

You mean that the NYT hasn’t gone belly up yet?

grapeknutz on July 6, 2011 at 6:53 PM

All this tells me is the Left is afraid of Perry – they should be.

Dr Evil on July 6, 2011 at 6:54 PM

So, why are they helping Perry by painting him as against Bush?

SouthernGent on July 6, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Last time I looked George W Bush, was a loyal Republican – The Paper of Record The Bird Liner Paper, wants everyone to believe that George W Bush, would submarine Perry’s Presidential campaign? Dubya lives in Dallas, it’s not like his neighbors aren’t Texans. I am really not surprised the Fish Wrap Paper, has a geographical knowledge deficit, among all it’s other deficits.

Dr Evil on July 6, 2011 at 6:58 PM

So, why are they helping Perry by painting him as against Bush?

SouthernGent on July 6, 2011 at 6:56 PM

They are in two words – Simple Minded.

Dr Evil on July 6, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Let me see if I get this straight:

Obama won 2008 running, not on any record, but simply as the anti-Bush as well as being a political novelty act, a.k.a. not of 100% Anglo-Saxon descent.

Now, Obama dare not run on any record and certainly not against the governor of the one state that has thwarted the O-conomy and actually produced jobs and cut spending…

…and now the same Mainly Stupid Media is also giving Perry the anti-Bush mantle as well?

Did the unholy Cheney-Rove-Murdoch Triumvirate buy the NYT or something and we just didn’t hear about it?

Mr Snuggle Bunny on July 6, 2011 at 7:01 PM

****** Pre-Election Emptive Political Operative Strike ****

**** MSM Insurgency Mission ****************************

canopfor on July 6, 2011 at 7:02 PM

NYT’s and annonymous sources. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

If aids are biting at the bit to tell all to the NYT’s then I question their conservativeness. No good person would do that. If they do, perhaps it’s because they begged for a job and were refused.

capejasmine on July 6, 2011 at 7:03 PM

NYT and anonymous sources?

Meh. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if the whole thing is fabricated.

They really should change their name to THE DNC DAILY LIAR.

hillbillyjim on July 6, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Lets see,Bush was from Texas,and Parry is the
Governer of Lone Star State,

O.M.G..that means,in the Progressive/Socilaist
MindSet,its a Bush Clone!!!!!!!!!!!

(snark).

canopfor on July 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM

I hope to heck that this NYT story built around anonymous sources isn’t a Rove whisper campaign…or the implication of one.

I like Perry. I liked W.

Knock it off, you cheap*ass narrative spinners.

onlineanalyst on July 6, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Did the unholy Cheney-Rove-Murdoch Triumvirate buy the NYT or something and we just didn’t hear about it?

Mr Snuggle Bunny on July 6, 2011 at 7:01 PM

My money is on Karl Rove…this here is Texas, we keep sh1t in house ;)

Dr Evil on July 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Well…if you think it’s a liability to have the public associate you with someone, you could do a lot worse than have that person’s aides saying that you’re not that close to him. Just sayin’

Knott Buyinit on July 6, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Andrew Klavan: The New York Times Answer Man
Apr 22, 2010
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y8tzEmhm1o

canopfor on July 6, 2011 at 7:14 PM

There are some pretty deep divisions between the Bush and Perry camps. You don’t need the NYT to find them either. It isn’t some anonymous former officials but editorial letters penned by the Bushes who remained popular even when their husbands didn’t. Perry isn’t that popular in Texas.

lexhamfox on July 6, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Why is NYT pushing this? Wouldn’t a rift with Bush give Perry a boost?

/puzzled

ElectricPhase on July 6, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Perry isn’t that popular in Texas.

lexhamfox on July 6, 2011 at 7:39 PM

yeah, he’s just the most re-elected governor in Texas and USA

not popular or electable hehe hehehe

windansea on July 6, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Of course the NYT makes things up. If you want news you go a real newspaper like th Enquirer. The “little pincher” has lost it all.

mmcnamer1 on July 6, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Why is NYT pushing this? Wouldn’t a rift with Bush give Perry a boost?

/puzzled

ElectricPhase on July 6, 2011 at 7:57 PM

do you think liberals and NYT are smart or stupid?

this answers your question

windansea on July 6, 2011 at 8:09 PM

perry is smart enough to know the only way to win is to run as far and as fast away from bush and Obama and clinton and bush the first.

unseen on July 6, 2011 at 8:19 PM

KBH was the most popular politician in the state and they absolutely pole axed her.

this is what I like about Perry

he wins, and goes for the kill

windansea on July 6, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Why is NYT pushing this? Wouldn’t a rift with Bush give Perry a boost?

/puzzled

ElectricPhase on July 6, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Why?

Was Bush a bad president?

The christian right backed him, too.

What’s not to like?

Mcguyver on July 6, 2011 at 8:48 PM

So let me get this straight, trying to figure out those few left dumb enough to be reading the New York Times.

It’s not about Bush’s ideas vs. Perry’s ideas, how they differ, how they’re the same. It’s only about trying to goad them into, what, a fight?

Who is it that said, most people talk about current events among themselves.

The smartest 10% talk about ideas.

The dumbest 10% talk about personalities.

I guess that explains the remaining readership of the New York Times.

MNHawk on July 6, 2011 at 8:50 PM

George W. Bush was such a gentleman that he wouldn’t even attack the Democrats and media that smeared and libeled him when he was President. But, now that he is a reticent ex-President looking better and better each day, he is going to suddenly go on the attack against a fellow Republican?? Oh, please. “W” was, is, and always will be a total class act.

grgeil on July 6, 2011 at 9:52 PM

As maligned as they have been, even after leaving office in 2009, either Bush or Cheney (even if on a hospital bed) could beat Obama if the election were held today. Perry need not and, I predict, won’t distance himself from Bush just to pander. He will, I suspect, gladly question excessive spending by Bush and, more important, by Obama, yet then again don’t we all?

This is nothing more than “All the news bullshit that’s fit to print.”

TXUS on July 6, 2011 at 9:52 PM

The article read, ” “If you’re really trying to be the nominee and want to go the distance, you just don’t want the former president of the United States and his people working against you.”

I can’t imagine George W. Bush working against a major Republican presidential candidate such as Perry, should Perry choose to run, in any context, under any circumstances. Whatever one might think of some of former President Bush’s decisions and policies, the man is himself of impeccable character, an old-school gentleman, a man who prays as easily as he breathes. Besides, if he can good-naturedly shrug off Obama’s ongoing, seemingly perpetual ‘Blame Bush’ strategy, he can shrug off anything.

troyriser_gopftw on July 6, 2011 at 10:05 PM

“He’s going to need all the help he can get from all the Republicans he can muster, so he ought to be prudent about that.”

Yeah, like all the help he got from you against Kay Bailey Hutchison?

cartooner on July 6, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Texas Leadership Fails Texans.

Mcguyver on July 6, 2011 at 10:12 PM

My money is on Karl Rove…this here is Texas, we keep sh1t in house ;)

Dr Evil on July 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM

If Rove isn’t backing Perry, then it is because he knows that another candidate who is even remotely comparable to Bush is a foregone loser, because Bush won only by squeakers both times and even then only because the other choices: Gore and then Kerry, were far worse.

It is the same reason why Perry even won the first and this last time, both because the other choice was far worse.

To get a better understanding of this you have to know Texas “inside baseball politics”, and as many times as I have tried to explain this, y’all seem to not grasp this factual truth, but instead y’all continue to project your best conservative hopes and dreams onto a much ballyhooed but fraudulent conservative who has increased government size by 87%, increased the state debt by double, pandered to and got the support through so much cronyism it puts Obama to shame, and even the NFID agrees his Business Margin Tax, which barely escapes the definition of a state income tax, also is unfair and does not meet the projected revenue demands…!!

Mcguyver on July 6, 2011 at 10:13 PM

This story has more to do with the NYT trying to sell papers than with anything else. Bush isn’t going to “go after” Perry like some Chicago thug and Perry isn’t going to throw Bush under the bus… like some Chicago thug.

itsacookbook on July 6, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Let me tell you, my email inbox is filled with anti-Perry sentiment from the TeaParty/Grassroots movement. Not one is in favor of him running other than as a joke to finally get rid of him here!!

Before Perry got re-elected again this last time by a slim margin of 51% in the republican primary, the TP was split about 50/50 on Perry vs. anybody but Perry, but now with the punting of the budgetary shortfall (and many other issues – see below), there is no way that Perry can carry his state in a national campaign, much like the Al Gore he worked for as campaign manager.

Not to mention that there are 5 million Independents (voters not affliliated with any party – Texans sure are some independent bunch here) that are sorely against him now, as a poll here recently showed.

In short, Perry stood by while every opportunity to pass the grassroots/Tea Party agenda failed and then of course as usual he lies about his role, and y’all believe the lie that the Texas governor does not have much power, but you continue to brag that he has balls..??!!

Y’all are a bunch of idiots, if you believe that tripe.

Perry has the veto pen for God’s sake..!!

He has used it and then when even that didn’t get what he wanted, he made an executive order..!!!

Here’s the bottom line: continue to remain the innocents, idiots and ignoramuses that you are, after as many times as I have provided you with the links to educate yourself, well then you get the government that you deserve, but the problem is, the rest of us don’t deserve him, because we are smart, informed and educated to know better.

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This is just one more example (of why y’all are patently dumb and misinformed):

(some emphasis mine)

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Will Governor Rick Perry Step Up?

The Texas anti-sanctuary cities legislation was a limited first step to deal with the flood of illegal aliens coming into Texas. Our leaders failed to move this one small step forward while law enforcement officers, citizens, and legal immigrants continue to die at the hands of illegals, while private property is plundered, while the cost of social services continues to explode, and while certain cities may well indeed harbor serious threats to national security.

Will Governor Perry – who has served as governor of this border state for ten years – step up and call the Texas Legislature back into another special session to get anti-sanctuary city, E-verify, and Fourth Amendment, liberty-defending legislation passed?

Or, in view of the legislature’s failures, will he lead by signing an executive order to get the job done for Texas?
Perry has a history of signing executive orders for matters far less important than these fundamental “rule of law” issues.

Texas Leadership Fails to Get the Job Done

In our border state of Texas, with a super-majority of Republicans in the House, a majority in the Senate, Republican Lt. Governor David Dewhurst, and Republican Governor Rick Perry, our state leadership could not manage simple anti-sanctuary city legislation – legislation that did not include E-verify, another much-needed reform measure.

In January, Governor Perry made anti-sanctuary city legislation an emergency item for the Texas legislature. The legislature failed to get the job done in the 82ndregular session. With strong urging from the grassroots, Governor Perry put it back on the special session call. The special session ended yesterday in yet another failure simply because House Speaker Joe Straus, State Affairs Committee Chairman Byron Cook, and his committee members purposefully kept the bill bottled up in committee for two weeks after the TX Senate passed the legislation! In spite of valiant efforts by a small group of conservatives in the TX House and Senate, the Republican leadership has failed yet again to protect Texas and failed to uphold the rule of law.

And if that’s not bad enough…

The TX legislature also failed to pass the Fourth Amendment-defending TSA anti-groping bill along with anti-Sharia law legislation and scores of other bills dealing with illegal immigration and its heavy toll on Texas. Why did most of these bills fail to make it out of committee with the GOP-controlled branches of executive and legislative state government? Political games, special interests, cowardice, and a lack of leadership…

Simply filing bills and talking big won’t fool the People of Texas. Texans don’t need, don’t want, and don’t deserve the games being played by establishment Republicans.

The truth is — in Texas, most of our GOP leadership marches to the tune of special business interests who put their love of cheap labor above the safety, security, and financial well-being of Texas citizens and legal immigrants.

Texas taxpayers cannot afford to be a social safety net for all who want to come here illegally to access taxpayer-funded services. These services and jobs should go to citizens and legal immigrants – period. The People’s reasonable expectation that our elected leaders would take the oath of office seriously and uphold the rule of law has once again been ignored by our state leadership.

Will Governor Rick Perry Step Up?

What We Have Asked Governor Perry to Do:

This week the white horse was saddled up and placed right in front of Governor Rick Perry by Texas grassroots constitutional conservatives. In a meeting with Governor Perry on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 – one day before sine die of the special session – we directly asked him, begged him, to step up to do the right thing by calling another special session in a few weeks or by issuing an executive order. Media reports say Perry doesn’t seem compelled to make any more attempts to resolve the People’s unfinished business…as he left the state for yet another trip to California – the second trip to the nation’s most populous state in less than three weeks.
Meanwhile, grassroots leaders across Texas and the nation are waiting to see what Governor Perry does. Texas is sitting in the shadow of South Carolina, Alabama, and many other states whose leadership has boldly stood up for the rule of law.

South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley proved this week that she doesn’t just talk. She leads the charge. Texas has its share of big talkers, but rhetorical bravado delivered with fist-pounding anger directed toward Washington won’t save Texas from becoming California, and it won’t save our country. We want principled leadership. We need courage in action. We deserve results.

TX Budget Success? Fairy Tales, the Medicaid Credit Card & Formula One Racing (they punted the budgetary shortfall down the line to 2013!!)

Texas lawmakers dealt with the budget shortfall and balanced the budget with no new taxes and no tax increases, but $12 billion of the cuts were the one-time federal stimulus funds used to balance the 2010-2011 biennium budget. The 2012-2013 budget is balanced with some other cuts, tax payment speed ups, accounting gimmicks, and an estimated $4.6 billion charge to a “Medicaid credit card.” In other words, Texas has a planned budget shortfall for 2013 when legislators will once again raid the Rainy Day Fund (the People’s Savings Account). If kicking the can down the road and delaying tough decisions is wrong in Washington, DC, what makes it right for Texas?

The legislature left many commonsense spending cuts on the table. Texas Republican leadership refused to champion and push for sensible cost-cutting measures offered by conservative legislators……

STOP RIGHT THERE!!

What have I said about the conservative down-the-ticket-legislators? Right, I have said that they have had to run against Rick Perry.

continue on…

….in both the House and the Senate, for example – pay cuts for statewide officials and state employees (not teachers) who make $60,000 and above; and a hiring freeze for all state agencies (excluding law enforcement, corrections, and the court system). Texas still has many overlapping, duplicated departments, agencies, and programs (twenty-three plus agencies alone that manage natural resources). If waste is wrong in Washington, DC, why isn’t it equally wrong for Texas?

Again, I have said that Obama simply has to point to Perry’s record as an example of how Obama’s policies can be implemented successfully if only those evil republicans would let Obama raise taxes, etc. etc…

continuing on…

The legislature and Governor Perry also approved $25 million for Formula One Race track funding for the billionaire promoter and special interests in Austin. No matter how many times we got this pork stripped out of the budget by the few conservatives in the House and Senate, it always rose from the dead in conference committee and stayed in the budget. Our Republican Comptroller and other state leaders deeply desired this project and arm-twisted to bring it back to life. If crony capitalism and pork are wrong in Washington, DC, what makes them right for Texas?

Obama did this for GM and Perry did it for Formula One.
What’s not to like? Twins separated at birth.

The State of Texas has no business serving as an investment banker or venture capitalist for entertainment venues. Leveraging tax dollars for private special interests is not a core constitutional responsibility of state government. It’s just plain wrong.

Does Texas have True Constitutional Conservative “Walk the Talk” Leadership?

Right now, the jury is out in Texas, but patience is wearing thin – blisteringly, painfully thin. Our governor has a new book entitled, Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington. It’s a good book, written at the right time. Like Governor Perry’s likable Texas drawl, his swagger, and his animated protests against Big DC Government, it’s red meat for the conservative masses, but back here in Texas, we’re fed up with continued inaction on the issue of illegal immigration and a state government desperately in need of structural reforms to reduce unsustainable spending, eliminate waste, simplify school funding, reduce debt, and end transportation funding diversions.

We are f***ing Fed Up! with Rick Perry’s f***ing pandering to y’all’s f***ing stupidity!

Constitutional conservative Independents, Republicans, Reagan Democrats, TEA Parties, 912s, and other grassroots groups should be very careful not to prematurely jump on any Presidential candidate’s (or potential candidate’s) train. Doing so may have you riding a slow train to disappointment or one that goes off the rails once folks check to see what actually fuels that engine. It could prove to be a lot of hot air…

EXACTAF***INGLY..!!

THIS IS AN OBVIOUS REFERENCE TO HOTAIR’S FREE CAMPAIGN COMMERCIALS FOR RICK F***INGPERRY..!!

The burning question remains – will Governor Rick Perry step up? Will he stand up for the rule of law and for Texas citizens and legal immigrants? Or is Rick Perry satisfied to sit in the shadow of South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley? His white horse is saddled up and waiting.

JoAnn Fleming serves as Chairman of the TEA Party Caucus Advisory Committee for the Texas State Legislature. She is the full-time volunteer Executive Director of Grassroots America – We the People of Tyler/Smith County, Texas, www(dot)gawtp.com)and is a former county commissioner. She is a subject matter consultant in local government public policy development, Performance Management, Organizational Development, Team building, Small Business Consulting, Political Campaign Management/Strategy, and Grassroots Activist Training. A leader in the conservative movement for nineteen years, she has served on twenty local government boards, committees, and task forces. JoAnn is a regional public speaker and a guest political analyst/commentator for Tyler/Smith County local media.

All I have to further say, is that y’all are a bunch fu***ing inbred retards if you cannot read the Texas Tea Party leafs.

Mcguyver on July 6, 2011 at 10:25 PM

All I have to further say, is that y’all are a bunch fu***ing inbred retards if you cannot read the Texas Tea Party leafs.

Mcguyver on July 6, 2011 at 10:25 PM

love the bogus y’alls retard, and it’s tea leaves you fu***king retard

nice seeing ya Gary, why the name change?

windansea on July 6, 2011 at 10:54 PM

love the bogus y’alls retard, and it’s tea leaves you fu***king retard

nice seeing ya Gary, why the name change?

windansea Perry Campaign Staff on July 6, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Only a campaign staff member would patrol these comments like you do for anti-perry postings.

The fact that you are accusing me of changing my name proves that you are very new here and only then for Perry’s campaign.

Mcguyver on July 6, 2011 at 11:20 PM

All I have to further say, is that y’all are a bunch fu***ing inbred retards if you cannot read the Texas Tea Party leafs.

Mcguyver on July 6, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Yanno, dude, I’m not a supporter of Perry, but it seems to me that I don’t need your approval to do so if I choose. On that note, you can take your opinion of me/us/them, and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine. Now, whenever you’re ready to talk to me as an adult, not as a whiny, angry petulant teen…

BillH on July 7, 2011 at 3:12 AM

Obama won 2008 running, not on any record, but simply as the anti-Bush as well as being a political novelty act, a.k.a. not of 100% Anglo-Saxon descent.

Now, Obama dare not run on any record and certainly not against the governor of the one state that has thwarted the O-conomy and actually produced jobs and cut spending…

…and now the same Mainly Stupid Media is also giving Perry the anti-Bush mantle as well?

Mr Snuggle Bunny on July 6, 2011 at 7:01 PM

My prediction is that if obama is asked any questions about the economy with respect to Texas, he will simply claim the only reason Perry had such success was due to obama’s nationwide policies, not Perry’s state policies.

As gifted and bloodthirsty as Perry may be, if he doesn’t expect this answer he will look dumbfounded at the sheer audacity of such a claim from obama. But the claim will be made if Perry is the nominee, so he better be ready for it.

Does anyone here think such a claim will NOT be made under those circumstances?

runawayyyy on July 7, 2011 at 3:38 PM