CA legislature passes gay-history mandate as the ship sinks

posted at 9:25 am on July 6, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Rarely do we get a juxtaposition of stories like we see today about California’s political class.  The legislature returned from the Independence Day holiday to address the pressing, acute issue that has the state in crisis mode — the lack of mention in schools of accomplishments by gays and lesbians:

A bill to require California public schools to teach the historical accomplishments of gay men and lesbians passed the state Legislature on Tuesday in what supporters call a first for the nation.

Governor Jerry Brown, a Democrat, has not said publicly whether he supports the bill, which he has 12 days to sign or veto once it reaches his desk later this month. If he takes no action, the measure would become law automatically. …

California already requires public schools to teach the contributions made to society by women and by racial and ethnic groups that were historically discriminated against, such as blacks, Latinos and Native Americans.

Supporters of the latest bill said it would simply include gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender individuals in that existing requirement, making it part of the curriculum in history and other social studies classes.

“It’s unfair to leave out or exclude an entire portion of our population from history,” said Carolyn Laub, executive director of San Francisco-based Gay-Straight Alliance Network.

Remember the days when we just taught history and civics and worried more about whether our children acquired the necessary skills in civics to be informed citizens able to responsibly act in self-governance, before we turned history and civics classes into check boxes for various victim castes?  Good times, good times.

Meanwhile, the minor, multibillion-dollar problem in budgeting still threatens to push California into default.  The Los Angeles Times reports that one reason California can’t pay its bills is because more than 1400 of its employees make over $200,000 per year, putting them into the same range as a Vice President of the United States.  One prison doctor pulls down more than three quarters of a million dollars each year (via Newsalert):

More than 1,400 state employees were paid in excess of $200,000 last year, according to compensation data made public for the first time Tuesday on Controller John Chiang‘s website.

Of those, 790 were prison doctors, dentists or nurses. More than 300 others were psychiatrists and other medical professionals working for the Department of Mental Health.

One prison doctor collected $777,423 in 2010 and a dentist took home $599,403, according to the website. The president of the state’s stem cell research agency received $482,234.

So who are these public employees?  You’ll never know … at least if Chiang has anything to say about it:

Chiang, a Democrat who has received millions in campaign contributions from state employee unions, did not include workers’ names even though that information is public and has been provided upon request for years.

As if this isn’t bad enough, the Times’ Jack Dolan reports that state records show that one prison psychiatrist received over $590,000 — for unused sick time dating back less than three years. Another dentist got over half a million dollars in sick-time payouts.  Over three hundred state employees got more than $100,000 in such lump-sum payouts in 2010.

Perhaps the state legislature passes these nonsense education mandates in order to keep the next generation of citizens from learning about such historical events in America as the Boston Tea Party, the Sons of Liberty, and civics lessons like impeachment.  The Golden State is sinking into a sea of red ink because of holes drilled in their financial ship by public-employee unions, and the political class at the helm can only act to instruct passengers to salute politically-correct victim classes on the way to the bottom.

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But we were told this would never happen.

faraway on July 6, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Let’s give California to Mexico …as a gift

red131 on July 6, 2011 at 9:31 AM

So if these folks were ripping off the state and GAY then Californians could get their names?

Cindy Munford on July 6, 2011 at 9:31 AM

CA legislature passes gay-history mandate as the ship sinks

Appropriate musical interlude

Shy Guy on July 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM

Oh, that is sooo important. Tell’em Sidney!

Herb on July 6, 2011 at 9:33 AM

the historical accomplishments of gay men and lesbians

…such as:
–High levels of domestic violence
–Shorter life expectancy
–Greater incidence of STDs
Why do various levels of government promote homosexuality, but punish smoking, which is less harmful to public health?

jgapinoy on July 6, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Meanwhile, the minor, multibillion-dollar problem in budgeting still threatens to push California into default.

What is going on with California’s budget, BTW? Didn’t the legislature just pass one or are they still working on it? I can’t imagine they did anything besides kick the can further down the road, at least as far as it’s possible to kick it at this point.

Doughboy on July 6, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Reinforcement of group identity, with an extra bonus of recruiting more children to join the group.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Let’s give California to Mexico …as a gift
red131 on July 6, 2011 at 9:31 AM

They won’t take it back–says warranty has expired or something.

Herb on July 6, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Next up, Gay History Month. At least then we’ll all know when to decorate.

The Mega Independent on July 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Next we will learn that FDR, Lincoln, and most of the founders were really gay

faraway on July 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM

It’s a long one, over an hour. But if you have the time, this is an interesting clip:

The Secret History Of Western Education Charlotte Iserbyt Interview

Fallon on July 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Are they going to teach Genesis 19?

Akzed on July 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM

…such as:
–High levels of domestic violence
–Shorter life expectancy
–Greater incidence of STDs
Why do various levels of government promote homosexuality, but punish smoking, which is less harmful to public health?
jgapinoy on July 6, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Because large companies mad significant profits off of smokers. Communists don’t like that. However, they do like tearing down anything they think is standing in the way of Marxist confiscation of all property.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2011 at 9:40 AM

In other news relaated to the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia, a shrik working for the state made over $800k last year and its top ten employees all made over $500k.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-05/california-prison-psychiatrist-paid-838-706.html

This cesspool is well beyond saving.

bw222 on July 6, 2011 at 9:40 AM

So they are planning to spend a month teaching about Gerry Brown’s service in government?

NotCoach on July 6, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Gays, Day 1: When it comes to SSM, DADT, and the like, what we do in the bedroom is our business.

Gays, Day 2: When it comes to educating children, what we do in the bedroom must be the business of everyone, including our youngest children, because, in the end, what we choose to do in the bedroom–our conduct or our behavior–is what distinguishes us from others.

BuckeyeSam on July 6, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Let’s give California to Mexico …as a gift

red131 on July 6, 2011 at 9:31 AM

Great idea. While states like Michigan and Ohio are making progress toward fixing their financial problems, Kalifornia just keeps being Kalifornia.

bw222 on July 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM

What does it take for the people of California to wake up? Their economy is a mess. Businesses are leaving in droves. Their revenues are sucked dry by illegal aliens and public unions… and they’re worried about Gay History???

Murf76 on July 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Oddly, this perfectly illustrates why repealing DADT was a bad idea:

Activist gays will always be gay first. It’s not about contributions to America- it’s about the fact that these contributions came from gays. Just as it’s not about serving in the Armed Forces, it’s about being gay and serving in the Armed Forces.

Congratulations homosexuals, you’re gay. I mean, you invented something. But mostly, you’re gay. NTTAWWT

BKeyser on July 6, 2011 at 9:43 AM

It has now gotten to the place where I no longer give a damn what happens in California.

As far as I am concerned, they should rename the state MORDOR!

pilamaye on July 6, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Alternative headline: Reason number 256 Kalifornia needs to slide off into the Pacific.

locomotivebreath1901 on July 6, 2011 at 9:47 AM

Supporters of the latest bill said it would simply include gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender individuals

Boy, oh boy, can’t wait to see the scholarship on this subject

I swear, if I were a younger man I’d pack it up, leave my unsalvageable state behind, and head for Arizona or Texas.

Gang-of-One on July 6, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Priorities

cmsinaz on July 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM

OT Alert!

Get rid of those annoyingly loud commercials that start up automatically. I don’t want to keep my computer volume muted and I don’t want to hear the commercials. If it happens too many times, I will remove Hot Air from my bookmarks. I’d hate to have to do that.

Qzsusy on July 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM

RuPaul was a founder

faraway on July 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Gays, Day 1: When it comes to SSM, DADT, and the like, what we do in the bedroom is our business.

Gays, Day 2: When it comes to educating children, what we do in the bedroom must be the business of everyone, including our youngest children, because, in the end, what we choose to do in the bedroom–our conduct or our behavior–is what distinguishes us from others.

BuckeyeSam on July 6, 2011 at 9:41 AM

This pretty much says it all, nothing further to add.

gator70 on July 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Let’s see:
I decided to give blood a coupla years ago because I had some free time after performing a service call at Central Florida bloodbank.
I was given a list of 99 questions. Because I answered yes to the question ‘Do you or have you lived with, in the last year, someone who tested positive to hepatitis C?’, I was disallowed from giving blood. Never mind the fact that I don’t sleep with her.
Nowhere on those questions was the SAME question about living with someone with HIV/AIDS to be found.
We have our first political disease.

Lanceman on July 6, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Not one dime to CA

They made their bed……

cmsinaz on July 6, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Remember the days when we just taught history and civics and worried more about whether our children acquired the necessary skills in civics to be informed citizens able to responsibly act in self-governance, before we turned history and civics classes into check boxes for various victim castes?

…..

Yes, but that went out the window with marriage.

I remember when marriage was….

artist on July 6, 2011 at 9:51 AM

2nd that pilamaye

cmsinaz on July 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM

As far as I am concerned, they should rename the state MORDOR!

pilamaye on July 6, 2011 at 9:46 AM

That would be giving Mordor a bad rap.

UltimateBob on July 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Appropriate musical interlude

Shy Guy on July 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM

Funny! Why did I know what I was going to find behind that door? Because I was a squid?

Gang-of-One on July 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM

So California demands, by law, that history be taught for all groups except one? That sounds almost discriminatory.

strictnein on July 6, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Somehow I made it through school without learning if Rutherford B. Hayes liked to wear women’s underwear. Is it toomuch to ask that they teach them to read English first?

Ted Torgerson on July 6, 2011 at 9:56 AM

It is sad out here, folks. The democrats are plundering and indoctrinating, without regard to the fact that both prongs are destroying this once magnificent state. Brown, unfortunately, is not able to rise above his politics.
Perhaps if California crashes and burns early next year when now-imagined revenues do not come in it will serve as an unmistakeable example of where America is headed if we do not get rid of Obama and the democratic senate in 2012.

GaltBlvnAtty on July 6, 2011 at 9:58 AM

OT Alert!
Get rid of those annoyingly loud commercials that start up automatically. I don’t want to keep my computer volume muted and I don’t want to hear the commercials. If it happens too many times, I will remove Hot Air from my bookmarks. I’d hate to have to do that.
Qzsusy on July 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Get firefox and adblock. You’ll never see, let alone hear, an ad here again.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Not one dime to CA

They made their bed……

cmsinaz on July 6, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Unfortunately, people are getting more stupid every day. Common sense is a dying dinosaur. Idiot mud heads can rationalize any darn thing. Look at liberals, common sense has no place because they want to pay people to be useless and stupid, while letting criminal illegals flood across the border for amnesty and a place in the liberal voting booth.

Of course they are blissfully ignorant about the unintended consequences, and will live to deeply regret their foolishness and abandonment of common sense.

saiga on July 6, 2011 at 10:00 AM

This can’t be. We were told by sincere posters here, right here on Hot Air, that these were not the intentions of thoughtful people in the gay movement. Whether they’re naive or untruthful, the reality is that the movement wants it all. There is no limit they’re unwilling to push. They will crush and destroy anyone who even appears to be in their way.

There will come a day when it’ll have to deal with organized faith though. As strong as their movement is, you know who’ll win.

hawkdriver on July 6, 2011 at 10:04 AM

I find it quite maddening that “the people who tell you what they do in the bedroom” are making the rules these days.

royzer on July 6, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Supporters of the latest bill said it would simply include gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender individuals in that existing requirement, making it part of the curriculum in history and other social studies classes.

So I suppose it’s obvious that the real goal isn’t to teach history, but to emphasize that the people involved in the event are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender.

How utterly sad for the children.

darwin on July 6, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Get firefox and adblock. You’ll never see, let alone hear, an ad here again.

Count to 10 on July 6, 2011 at 9:58 AM

It’s super cool to cost the sites you enjoy money and provide them no revenue. Adblock users are the leeches of the Internet.

strictnein on July 6, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Thuper.

catmman on July 6, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Vaseline stock skyrockets.

Hening on July 6, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Next up: Affirmative action for non-heterosexuals.

darwin on July 6, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Let’s see:
I decided to give blood a coupla years ago because I had some free time after performing a service call at Central Florida bloodbank.
I was given a list of 99 questions. Because I answered yes to the question ‘Do you or have you lived with, in the last year, someone who tested positive to hepatitis C?’, I was disallowed from giving blood. Never mind the fact that I don’t sleep with her.
Nowhere on those questions was the SAME question about living with someone with HIV/AIDS to be found.
We have our first political disease.

Lanceman on July 6, 2011 at 9:50 AM

AIDS used to called GRID (gay-related immune deficiency) because homosexuals spread it like wildfire. But since it is, as you said, our first political disease, that moniker simply wasn’t deemed very sensitive.

jgapinoy on July 6, 2011 at 10:15 AM

It’s super cool to cost the sites you enjoy money and provide them no revenue. Adblock users are the leeches of the Internet.

strictnein on July 6, 2011 at 10:11 AM

There are less annoying ways to generate ad revenue.

Do you also insult TIVO users?
Are you in the ad business?

jgapinoy on July 6, 2011 at 10:17 AM

Vaseline stock skyrockets.

Hening on July 6, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Those of knee pads, too.

Anything to support the recruiting effort, right?

Is this part of California’s effort to improve its schools–its Race to the Bottom campaign.

BuckeyeSam on July 6, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Bill Whittle comes to mind.

Speakup on July 6, 2011 at 10:21 AM

If this becomes law, then more families will leave the state and many who stay will remove their children from public education. Kids will be taught at home about the political agenda to promote “gay pride” and its relationship to gay self-loathing. This will cause many CA children to become better informed, by their parents.

exdeadhead on July 6, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Qzsusy on July 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM

There are apps that block autoplay. I use the Click to Flash 2.2.6 extension on my Safari browser. No more autoplay.

NaCly dog on July 6, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Why stop with gay history? We need to have the entire curriculum revised with homosexuality in mind. Which are the gay planets, the gay numbers, the gay chemicals the gay continents? This must be done until the first thought in everyone’s mind is how does everything in the world relate to homosexuality.

scrubjay on July 6, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Lanceman on July 6, 2011 at 9:50 AM
jgapinoy on July 6, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Neither HIV/AIDS nor Hep C can be spread through casual contact, so, it’s a bit odd that they’d restrict people from donating for simply living with someone that has Hep C.

I don’t think the answer is to include living with an HIV+ person as a ‘no donate’ offense but rather to remove living with someone that has Hep C from the list of reasons a person can’t donate.

JadeNYU on July 6, 2011 at 10:24 AM

It’s super cool to cost the sites you enjoy money and provide them no revenue. Adblock users are the leeches of the Internet.

strictnein on July 6, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Click to Flash allows ads, at the cost of more time loading than with Adblock.

NaCly dog on July 6, 2011 at 10:25 AM

You can be sure that “gay history” will not be taught with the same animus that these teachers teach US history. But these lefties “looooooove” America. Right.

eaglewingz08 on July 6, 2011 at 10:26 AM

Crazy scenario of the day…….

Progressives destroying Cali on purpose because they KNOW the Feds will bail them out.

After the Feds bail them out the entire state becomes the “property of the FedGov.

Then the FedGov can use the state and it’s assets (natural resources, etc) as collateral for more Federal borrowing.

China in effect becomes the collateral holder of California without firing a shot.

PappyD61 on July 6, 2011 at 10:27 AM

As if this isn’t bad enough, the Times’ Jack Dolan reports that state records show that one prison psychiatrist received over $590,000 — for unused sick time dating back less than three years. Another dentist got over half a million dollars in sick-time payouts. Over three hundred state employees got more than $100,000 in such lump-sum payouts in 2010.

Democrats gone wild.

mankai on July 6, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Reason 1,000,001 for SCHOOL VOUCHERS!! I was always going to put my kids through PRIVATE SCHOOL, regardless of this stupid decision…

Khun Joe on July 6, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Next we will learn that FDR, Lincoln, and most of the founders were really gay

faraway on July 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM

FDR’s wife had a lesbian affair. There is an argument that Lincoln was gay, but I’m not sure how valid it is. Some of the Founders like Jefferson and Franklin probably would have supported the modern gay rights movement if it had been around back then. They were comfortable around the gays that they meet in France and thought gay people were being treated too harshly.

Also,

In Feb. 1778, a veteran Prussian soldier calling himself Baron Frederick William Von Steuben, arrived at Valley Forge, claiming to have been sent by the Continental Congress. (He was lying.) He’d once been a captain in the Elite Guard of Frederick the Great, King of Prussia. It’s rumored he was kicked out of the guard and exiled for a suspected homosexual affair. He traveled for a while as a pariah, until he found an army willing to accept him. The colonial army was desperate and willing to accept him at face value. Steuben was able to bring European principals and combat tactics to the colonial army. The “Von Steuben Technique” re-energized Washington’s army, remaking them into a cohesive unit, using old-world battle strategies.

thuja on July 6, 2011 at 10:28 AM

I think Ed likes to focus on the insanity and moral sh*thole that is California because it makes Minnesota look almost normal by comparison. Can’t blame him.
I still have many family members living in CA. I’d feel badly for them but they choose to live there.

Extrafishy on July 6, 2011 at 10:30 AM

“It’s unfair to leave out or exclude an entire portion of our population from history,” said Carolyn Laub, executive director of San Francisco-based Gay-Straight Alliance Network.

an entire portion of our population ?? really, what is it 1-4% of the population?? so do we need to mandate public classes heaping praise on every perverted sexual subset that exists? What about the contributions of homicidal maniacs, they are a portion of our population?

Alden Pyle on July 6, 2011 at 10:30 AM

If this becomes law, then more families will leave the state and many who stay will remove their children from public education. Kids will be taught at home about the political agenda to promote “gay pride” and its relationship to gay self-loathing. This will cause many CA children to become better informed, by their parents.

exdeadhead on July 6, 2011 at 10:22 AM

You are correct. We live here only because our kids and grandkids do. Our kids are fortunate to be in good suburban school districts that minimize, but do not exclude, the propogandizing. We work to counter it.

GaltBlvnAtty on July 6, 2011 at 10:32 AM

California needs all the psychiatrists it can get, because you’d have to be crazy to live there.

Ward Cleaver on July 6, 2011 at 10:35 AM

It’s super cool to cost the sites you enjoy money and provide them no revenue. Adblock users are the leeches of the Internet.

strictnein on July 6, 2011 at 10:11 AM

It’s my internet, I use it the way I choose, pop ups and auto plays are OFFENSIVELY ANNOYING and I would never buy a product that pisses me off. Anyone who want me to be a patron of their product should advertise respectfully if they want my patronage. If I want to know more about your company or product I’ll click your add, otherwise..don’t bug me.

Alden Pyle on July 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM

an entire portion of our population ?? really, what is it 1-4% of the population?? so do we need to mandate public classes heaping praise on every perverted sexual subset that exists? What about the contributions of homicidal maniacs, they are a portion of our population?

Alden Pyle on July 6, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Hey, I read Helter Skelter, and supposedly Charles Manson was a pretty good guitarist.

Ward Cleaver on July 6, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Glad to know they’ve solved all other problems that they can move on to this important piece of legislation that will bring people together. Brainwashing/indoctrination, that thankfully some Californians are trying to get away from:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/07/01/official-calls-for-riverside-12-other-counties-to-secede-from-california/

Greek Fire on July 6, 2011 at 10:37 AM

As a sub-contract forensic accountant for the state of California, the state currently has a $500 billion unfunded pension liability. People don’t realize this. At the current rate California’s private sector will pay 212% of 100% of their revenue or salary by 2018 which is impossible but yet is the model being defended Gov. Moonbeam and those who don’t understand basic socio-economics. Loans, grants, bond sale authorizations from the Federal Government to California are over and done. The State is now negotiating with which banks will cash or negotiate the pensioners’ compensation or basically IOU’s. The State is technically 64 months behind in payments to the private sector and just a matter of time before the rest of the private sector stops doing business with the State which they are by droves. The mere numbers indicate that California Pensioners need to prepare themselves that there could be no checks next week or any week going forward.

With this said, let’s just get this one straight. The State at some near point will implode. Lady Gaga’s going south, Tom Hank’s new movie won’t cover its costs and the rest of Hollywood will follow. Progressives don’t understand they can’t insult half their audience and keep their business. Make no mistake the process has begun. I’m a 6th generation Californian and one of five sisters. We are conservative and we aren’t going anywhere. This State is too broke to be a battlefield so we wait, keeping our powder dry for the inevitable implosion. At some point the state will conform to logical socio-political dynamics and put North Bay Progressives on the most wanted list.

Conservatives are prepared for this State to choke on its debt with business owner clients ready and willing to begin the rebuilding process. Once this happens and it will, if you think we are going to allow another Height Ashbury constituency to foment your mistaken. This will all happen during Gov. Moonbeam’s term. Keep in mind also that it was Teachers Union, et al., money coupled with little oversight that brought us once again Moonbeam, Boxer and Pelosi. The Union money equation will no longer be there next go around. It’s not a matter of if, it’s when and on the outside chance that California should become battleground after the public worker/pensioner truly realizes there is no more cash for their pension packages without the slightest whiff of relief coming from D.C.? It’s inevitable people hence we have a whole bunch of good folks in Southern California outside of Hollywood aiming to please, no pun intended.

Tangerinesong on July 6, 2011 at 10:39 AM

On the 3rd day, God created the sphincter.

faraway on July 6, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Let’s give California to Mexico …as a gift

red131 on July 6, 2011 at 9:31 AM

..you cannot give something to someone who already owns it.

The War Planner on July 6, 2011 at 10:42 AM

So, when is White Supremacist Day? Aren’t we going to honor Woodrow Wilson?

Blake on July 6, 2011 at 10:42 AM

thuja on July 6, 2011 at 10:28 AM

I think you’re missing the point.

The point isn’t that there haven’t been gays throughout history. The problem is the state mandating is being taught in ‘history’ classes.

The Village people were part of the disco scene back in the 70′s but I don’t think anyone (seriously) would argue they were a significant driving force in the advancement of music as an art form. A footnote at best.

catmman on July 6, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Gays, Day 1: When it comes to SSM, DADT, and the like, what we do in the bedroom is our business.

Gays, Day 2: When it comes to educating children, what we do in the bedroom must be the business of everyone, including our youngest children, because, in the end, what we choose to do in the bedroom–our conduct or our behavior–is what distinguishes us from others.

BuckeyeSam on July 6, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Thread winner.

gwelf on July 6, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Bath houses will become public shrines.

faraway on July 6, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Qzsusy on July 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Do Adblock, it is awesome.

Cindy Munford on July 6, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Errr… but aren’t we supposed to be having a truce on social issues?

It must be those social conservatives mandating the teaching of historical accomplishments of gay men and lesbians to our children in school. Don’t they know about the separation between church and state. /sarc

I thought the gay lobby was supposed to be satisfied with their being allowed to marry and the rest of us that said they wouldn’t stop there were wrong.

TheRightMan on July 6, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Californians can’t know who is making what salary but they have to know somebody’s sexual orientation? I’m so confused. Did they hear about Bell, CA? Come on California, stand up for yourselves.

Cindy Munford on July 6, 2011 at 10:54 AM

The Golden State is sinking into a sea of red ink because of holes drilled in their financial ship by public-employee unions, and the political class at the helm can only act to instruct passengers to salute politically-correct victim classes on the way to the bottom.

Wow… very well said Mr. Morrissey.

FlatlanderByTheLake on July 6, 2011 at 10:54 AM

They say they want to split the state.

Fine. Split it north to south. Along the Coast Range.

mojo on July 6, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Californicate does have its priorities.

WannabeAnglican on July 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM

I think you’re missing the point.

The point isn’t that there haven’t been gays throughout history. The problem is the state mandating is being taught in ‘history’ classes.

The Village people were part of the disco scene back in the 70′s but I don’t think anyone (seriously) would argue they were a significant driving force in the advancement of music as an art form. A footnote at best.

catmman on July 6, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Actually, I suspect that our positions are close. I don’t think we should be teaching history as propaganda for identity group thinking. I think the California legislature has better things to be doing than passing something trivial and pro-gay-as-an-identity-group. I just don’t want this thread to become an orgy of homophobia and denial of the role of gays have played in American history.

thuja on July 6, 2011 at 11:05 AM

mojo on July 6, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Yes, South California is a proposed title for the new state if they are able to secede. I hope it happens. This state is truly lost. With all of their problems and they think a gay history curriculum is a priority?

RDE2010 on July 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM

the role of gays have played in American history.

thuja on July 6, 2011 at 11:05 AM

So instead of using FDR (D), we will have a new system… FDR (front), Frank (back), etc.

faraway on July 6, 2011 at 11:11 AM

At least the state will go to hell in a hand-basket, knowing that we can’t mention any of the gay politicians in Sacramento who played a part in the coming fiscal disaster, as the law also states that NOTHING negative will be said about gays.

GarandFan on July 6, 2011 at 11:12 AM

thuja on July 6, 2011 at 10:28 AM

I get your point, but we should categorize the Baron’s accomplishments as those of a gay based upon rumor?

Gang-of-One on July 6, 2011 at 11:13 AM

denial of the role of gays have played in American history.

Why is the sexual orientation of historical figures important in studying history? Unless of course you have an agenda to indoctrinate people.

gwelf on July 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM

This is not about equality, this is about sibling rivalry. Just read Cain and Abel’s story to see how all that turns out.

PattyJ on July 6, 2011 at 11:23 AM

denial of the role of gays have played in American history.

thuja on July 6, 2011 at 11:05 AM

What will happen is the exclusion of perhaps more important history to fit in gay history. I’m pretty sure that not every important event in history can be attributed to a gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered person.

This type of political correctness is what has white washed our own history to the point that many people have no idea what the Declaration of Independence is or who we fought for that independence.

It’s really getting out of hand.

darwin on July 6, 2011 at 11:24 AM

This is what equality means to the left. I hope all the non-social conservatives out there start to realize this.

Equality for the left (gay advocacy groups) is not about ‘equal treatment under the law’ it’s about ‘equality of outcomes’. The left starts from the standpoint that life is horribly unfair to gay people and the government needs to equalize things in society to make it right.

gwelf on July 6, 2011 at 11:25 AM

What will happen is the exclusion of perhaps more important history to fit in gay history. I’m pretty sure that not every important event in history can be attributed to a gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered person.

This type of political correctness is what has white washed our own history to the point that many people have no idea what the Declaration of Independence is or who we fought for that independence.

It’s really getting out of hand.

darwin on July 6, 2011 at 11:24 AM

I’m sure children in California are already in the top 5% of students in math, reading comprehension and understanding the basics of history and civics and how our republic operates (or is supposed to). I’m sure the very important messages about gays, etc will pop up after all the basics have been mastered. /sarc

gwelf on July 6, 2011 at 11:27 AM

This doesn’t really matter. The students are unable to actually read the course material.

trigon on July 6, 2011 at 11:28 AM

CA legislature passes gay-history mandate as the ship sinks

Appropriate musical interlude

Shy Guy on July 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM

Nearer My Gea To Thee ?

bandarlog on July 6, 2011 at 11:31 AM

First the teacher will have to explain what gay means. It’s more that a man loving a man or a woman a woman. That’s something common across the board. No, it’s about behavior. Picture the kindergartener’s being instructed about that.

Mason on July 6, 2011 at 11:32 AM

So instead of using FDR (D), we will have a new system… FDR (front), Frank (back), etc.

faraway on July 6, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Actually, moron, if you had bothered to read to read what I wrote, you would see that is the exact opposite of what I was saying.

thuja on July 6, 2011 at 11:36 AM

Theophobics.

hawkdriver on July 6, 2011 at 11:40 AM

Unfortunately, my family will be relocating to S. Cal. this summer. While researching school districts, I found some terrible but expectable trends. Their student’s test scores in history SUCK!! This oughta fix it.

jarhead05 on July 6, 2011 at 11:41 AM

Appropriate musical interlude

Shy Guy on July 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM

I prefer this song…

annoyinglittletwerp on July 6, 2011 at 11:42 AM

The way things are going, California will end up as three states. South CA from the Mexican border to just south of LA, including Riverside, Orange, and as far north as Kern. Central CA from LA to the SF, and a line east to Tahoe. North CA from there to the Oregon border. The Conservatives in South CA are tired of the Moonbeam socialism, are tired of the moochers sucking the producers dry, are tired of Hollywood telling us who is good and bad when they have it upside down.

Freelancer on July 6, 2011 at 11:43 AM

denial of the role of gays have played in American history.

Why is the sexual orientation of historical figures important in studying history? Unless of course you have an agenda to indoctrinate people.

gwelf on July 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM

It’s is absurd to claim that people’s relationships haven’t effected history. My position is that while we shouldn’t go out of way to find gay people and talk about them, we shouldn’t fear mentioning their sexuality where it is relevant. To give an example more relevant to literature than history, when talking about Walt Whitman’s poetry, Whitman’s sexuality should be brought up. My position is the only one that doesn’t make a big deal out of homosexuality one way or another.

To say we must remain silent always on homosexuality is to make a big deal out of homosexuality.

thuja on July 6, 2011 at 11:46 AM

My children will never darken the door of a public school, unless I take them there when I vote.

On fact, I’m thinking of setting up a fund to ensure that my grandchildren as yet unborn will never attend public school, either. It is no longer merely passively incompentent and has become actively destructive.

Haiku Guy on July 6, 2011 at 11:52 AM

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