WaPo fact check shows Obama demagoguery

posted at 3:25 pm on June 30, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

For those who watched the (arguably) presidential press conference yesterday, what were the main arguments Barack Obama tried to communicate?  Tax breaks for corporate jet owners have gotten in the way of student aid and food safety, that hedge-fund managers and CEOs have never had it so good in taxes, and that he’s making “unprecedented” efforts to reduce government regulations to aid businesses.  Most of these claims were laughable on their face, but Glenn Kessler at the Washington Post puts them through the fact-check cycle — and discovers that Obama didn’t tell the truth:

In a bit of class jujutsu, the president six times mentioned eliminating a tax loophole for corporate jets, frequently pitting it against student loans or food safety. It’s a potent image, but in the context of a $4-trillion goal, it is essentially meaningless.  The item is so small the White House could not even provide an estimate of the revenue that would be raised, but other estimates suggest it would amount to $3 billion over 10 years.

Meanwhile, student financial assistance, just for 2011, is about $42 billion. So the corporate jet loophole — which involves the fact that such assets can be depreciated over five years, rather than the seven for commercial jets — just is not going to raise a lot of money. It certainly wouldn’t save many student loans.

That “unprecedented” reduction of regulation ignores the 2800 pages of ObamaCare, much of which were placeholders for even more regulation from Health and Human Services.  The phrase “The Secretary shall determine” appears dozens of times throughout the bill, if not hundreds, and makes ObamaCare not just a massive amount of regulatory expansion but a massively ambiguous one at that.  But Kessler focuses on just the reductions, and declares the statement baseless in even a narrow context:

Watch out when someone says “unprecedented.” It’s almost never true.

That’s the case here. Obama clearly has forgotten Al Gore’s “reinventing initiative,” which supposedly resulted in the elimination of16,000 pages of federal regulations. (Frankly, we were always suspicious of that claim.) Other presidents, such as George H.W. Bush, also pledged to cut down on red tape. It’s a hardy perennial.

Average tax rates are relatively low over the last six decades, but aren’t at their lowest point.  The CBO concluded that the effective rates were lowest in 1986, when Ronald Reagan used tax cuts to stimulate the economy.  It’s worth pointing out that while Obama seems to be taking credit for historically low tax rates, he’s only doing so to argue for hiking them.

For a bonus, let’s take a look at Obama’s dodge on Libya.  He came out swinging on the suggestion that the Libya mission was unconstitutional and poorly handled, saying:

Moammar Gaddafi, who prior to Osama bin Laden was responsible for more American deaths than just about anybody on the planet, was threatening to massacre his people. . . . As a consequence, a guy who was a state sponsor of terrorist operations against the United States of America is pinned down, and the noose is tightening around him.

Kessler points out that Obama himself didn’t seem to think this was a problem before March:

Yes, Gaddafi is a bad guy, but Obama conveniently ignores the fact that until the uprising, the administration was rushing to do business with him. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton met with one of Gadhafi’s sons, Mutassim Gadhafi, in 2009, declaring, “I’m very much looking forward to building on this relationship.”

Kessler gives Obama two Pinocchios for his effort yesterday.  I’d say that’s letting him off the hook a little too easily.

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Well, bho’s mouth did open and guess what, lies just came spewing out?
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letget on June 30, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Kessler gives Obama two Pinocchios for his effort yesterday. I’d say that’s letting him off the hook a little too easily.

What do you expect him to do? Call Obama a “d!ck”? I’d say the two Pinocchios take care of that metaphorically.

Doughboy on June 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM

The Power Pimp no longer attempts to hide a thing.

Demagoguery, hypocrisy and lies are all indignant.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM

they can’t even lie good anymore.

rob verdi on June 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Muenchhausen and Pinoccio have convulsions in their graves.

Chavez appears mild as a power-hungry craven charlatan.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Kessler gives Obama two Pinocchios for his effort yesterday.

Is that better or worse that one dick?

pedestrian on June 30, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Kessler gives Obama two Pinocchios for his effort yesterday.

And what does Pinnocchio’s nose look like when it grows?

SouthernGent on June 30, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Halperin attempted to help the country, for once.

For that he got punished.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:30 PM

You lie!

Hening on June 30, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Tax breaks for corporate jet owners have gotten in the way of student aid and food safety

Yet, in his stimulus he advocated the acquisition of corporate jets.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Why don’t they do fact checking on issues Americans really care about?

For example, does Herman Cain really prefer Deep Dish?

Pawlenty, the new Lunesta on June 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM

But overarching all of this there seemed to be a deep rage against the realities of the moment he has found himself in, and the part he has found himself playing in that moment. Like a lot of his erstwhile supporters, the president seems to have had higher hopes for Barack Obama, and seems unsure of how to vent his disappointment. Maybe he was naïve.

Trapped snakes are always dangerous.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Beware of charlatans and frauds as you would a venomous snake.

Dhuka on June 30, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Obama sounded like a left wing dictator or something.

faraway on June 30, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Still, none of this compares to the depths of ignorance surrounding Paul Revere’s ride. /s

BKeyser on June 30, 2011 at 3:36 PM

I won’t argue that the War Powers Act is constitutional, but those who do base it on the fact the the constitution places the power to declare war on the congress. I don’t see anywhere in the constitution where it has an exception for really, really bad guys. Something like “Congress shall have the power to declare War unless the leader of the enemy country is a really bad dude who has caused more American deaths than just about anybody on the planet, in which case the President, acting alone, shall have the power to declare war.”

cirrus on June 30, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Beware of charlatans and frauds as you would a venomous snake.

Dhuka on June 30, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Perfect thought/timing, concurrency!

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Obama sounded like a left wing dictator dicktator or something.

faraway on June 30, 2011 at 3:35 PM

FIFY

SouthernGent on June 30, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Tax breaks for corporate jet owners have gotten in the way of student aid and food safety…

The silver tongue has turned out to be a shameless trash mouth.

petefrt on June 30, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Veronique de Rugy expands on Kesslers’ WaPo ananlysis:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/270824/wapos-fact-checker-debt-ceiling-debate-veronique-de-rugy

onlineanalyst on June 30, 2011 at 3:40 PM

But overarching all of this there seemed to be a deep rage against the realities of the moment he has found himself in, and the part he has found himself playing in that moment. Like a lot of his erstwhile supporters, the president seems to have had higher hopes for Barack Obama, and seems unsure of how to vent his disappointment. Maybe he was naïve.

He looks like he is angry at everybody except the one he should be angry at…the guy in the friggin mirror.

NJ Red on June 30, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Is that better or worse that one dick?

pedestrian on June 30, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Hey, we can say dick here? Awesome. Thanks, Ed.

JohnInCA on June 30, 2011 at 3:45 PM

It’s very frustrating listening to what comes out of obongos “Larry Sinclair” pleaser

Sonosam on June 30, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Obama had nothing to say yesterday. His numbers, coffers, ideas, stats, hope are all down.

Thus, he came out and made an even bigger fool than is already known about himself.

He’ll go in history as a risible huuuge mistake.

Media, you own him now. Be happy as Obama-azzcrawlers. You eat what you dwell in. May you and him be destroyed to the heap of history, where you all belong.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:46 PM

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means tha…See Moret ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better

…..Senator Barack Obama, 2006

Knucklehead on June 30, 2011 at 3:47 PM

That “unprecedented” reduction of regulation ignores the 2800 pages of ObamaCare

The above quote is an extreme understatement!!!

The “2800 pages” refers to the Obamacare bill itself: the Obamacare Regulations, when written, will easily produce 100-1000 times that number of pages, so a better estimate would be a million pages!!!. Obamacare is particularly onerous because it is riddled with “The Secretary shall define…” clauses, so that we can be assured that nobody will know the full extent of the damage that this ill-conceived legislation has done to our country for decades!!! This is why it MUST BE REPEALED ASAP!!!

landlines on June 30, 2011 at 3:48 PM

unprecedented liar

search4truth on June 30, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Most of these claims were laughable on their face, but Glenn Kessler at the Washington Post puts them through the fact-check cycle — and discovers that Obama didn’t tell the truth:

Wow! Ya think???

capejasmine on June 30, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Left Wing strong-man” — Rubio

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Internalize and fight this

But as another Fourth of July approaches, there has never been more uncertainty about the future of America — and the anxiety transcends even the dismal economy and three foreign wars. President Obama prompted such introspection in April 2009, when he suggested that the United States, as one of many nations, was not necessarily any more exceptional than others. Recently, a New Yorker magazine article sympathetically described our new foreign policy as “leading from behind.”

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Mark Levin put it best. This Thug in Chief is acting under the presumption that all the wealth in this country belongs to the government except what our Overloards allow us “subjects of the state” to keep.

And people get upset when we call him a Communist?

jawkneemusic on June 30, 2011 at 3:56 PM

LOTUS

Shy Guy on June 30, 2011 at 3:57 PM

DOTUS

SouthernGent on June 30, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Rubio tells us that he will respond to Obama’s recent press conference, where the president reveled in class-warfare bluster. “Quite frankly, I am both disappointed for our country and shocked at some of the rhetoric,” he says. “It was rhetoric, I thought, that was more appropriate for some left-wing strong man than for the president of the United States.”

“Talking about corporate jets and oil companies,” Rubio says, missed the point. “Everybody here agrees that our tax code is broken,” he says, and he is open to discussing tax reform. “But don’t go around telling people that the reason you are not doing well is because some rich guy is in a corporate jet or some oil company is making too much money.”

Watching Obama brandish such talking points made Rubio wince. “Three years into his presidency, he is a failed president,” he says. “He just has not done a good job. Life in America today, by every measure, is worse than it was when he took over.”

“When does it start to get better?” Rubio asks. “When does the magic of this president start to happen?”

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Finally, good news

FLASH: Geithner considering leaving Treasury after Debt Debate…

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Krauthammer was fantastic yesterday on Special Report.

He said that if we took the amount of money that we would save from the Private Jet deduction and begin collecting it every year from the time of John the Baptist, first in shekels and then in dollars, today we would be halfway to paying for the deficit for February.

ROFL

barnone on June 30, 2011 at 4:05 PM

In a bit of class jujutsu, the president six times mentioned eliminating a tax loophole for corporate jets, frequently pitting it against student loans or food safety. It’s a potent image, but in the context of a $4-trillion goal, it is essentially meaningless.

It doesn’t matter if it’s meaningless… Obama is preaching to Lib voters. Lib voters primarily want to feel “morally superior.” They want to feel good about themselves. Liberals = good. Anyone else = bad. Self-congratulation is all they want/need from any politician. Obama delivers.

visions on June 30, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Obama now has a record and doesn’t dare run on it. National Democrats have the same or worse record. Then there is the ever complicit mendacious media.

Startling stupid with eighteen months to go augers well for anybody but Democrats. Keep on working that fool-proof plan, fools.

Caststeel on June 30, 2011 at 4:05 PM

What the dummy approved in his first stimulus – on corporate jets

Just a few months after lawmakers scolded auto executives for flying to Washington in private jets, Congress approved a tax break in the stimulus package to help businesses buy their own planes.

The incentive — first used to help plane makers recover from the 2001 terror attacks — sharply reduces the up front tax bill for companies who buy assets like business planes.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 4:06 PM

The incentive — first used to help plane makers recover from the 2001 terror attacks — sharply reduces the up front tax bill for companies who buy assets like business planes.

It reduces the depreciation deduction to 5 years from the traditional 7.

Wow!

Crucify the Capitalists for this blatant greed!!!

/s

aquaviva on June 30, 2011 at 4:09 PM

“Demagoguery,” Ed?

When in Heaven’s name will you stop making excuses — by inference when not actually issuing him a free pass — for Osama Obama?

The appropriate word is lie, Ed. L. I. E. Simpler, consumes less space, gets to the point.

The Traitor-in-Chief has been a nonstop liar since he first began his run for the Presidency, and (though not on a national level) before.

What you’re getting all analytical about is the window-dressing. Look at the substance, and you’ll find a man hell-bent on destroying the nation that has given him far more than he ever deserved.

But I guess we have to be “nice,” and consider how Our Friends the Democrats would be so offended if we called their little tin god by his rightful name or — perish the thought! — suggested he be held accountable for a long list of misdeeds, some of which likely meet the standards for impeachment.

MrScribbler on June 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Beck’s last show, soon, live.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Obama is such a gun salesman, I think I’ll get a
Cannon
this time.

Caststeel on June 30, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Of course Obama is going to lie. He assumes that most Americans are ignorant and uninformed (unfortunately, correct for the most part) and won’t know the difference between his lie and the truth.

Far too many Americans are ignorant of history, politics, economics and math, including the President. They are also gullible and far too easily believe anything they’re told by the media.

Common Sense on June 30, 2011 at 4:24 PM

“Left Wing strong-man” — Rubio

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Don’t you just love it when Rubio calls out ObaMao so smoothly and irrefutably?

onlineanalyst on June 30, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Imad Mugniyah was responsible for more American deaths than Kadaffy – the Beirut Embassy bombing, the Marine Barracks bombing in Lebanon, then the second Beirut Embassy bombing. Plus a number of US citizens captured for ransom by Hezbollah which he was helping to stand up after the triple bombings. Mugniyah was responsible for more US deaths than all the deaths due to Kadaffy by a factor of two… so why aren’t we going after Hezbollah?

ajacksonian on June 30, 2011 at 4:29 PM

So in 2009, even though “Moammar Gaddafi, who prior to Osama bin Laden was responsible for more American deaths than just about anybody on the planet” Obama’s Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton met with one of Gadhafi’s sons, Mutassim Gadhafi, in 2009, declaring,

“I’m very much looking forward to building on this relationship.”

But in 2011 when Gaddafi was “threatening to massacre his people” suddenly a war without Congressional approval was the only course of action and if you dare question that:

“Whose side are you on?” — Obama’s Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton

Clearly… Obama is not worried about dead Americans, but rather only about Arabs at risk.

DANEgerus on June 30, 2011 at 4:29 PM

You know you’re doing bad, when even your best allies in the media can no longer cover up your lies.

Strange to see WAPO exposing Obama’s lies. Usually they are going out of their way to help provide cover for him.

Sinking ship?

BruthaMan on June 30, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Yesterday “I’m here, they need to get it done, I’m here”.

Today – The Power Thug is in Philadelphia, campaigning.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 4:37 PM

The Democrat Poem:

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table,
At which he’s fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule..

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for
peanuts anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won’t be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He’s good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he’s laid…

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
‘Taxes drove me
to my doom…’

When he’s gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per
gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on
top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Sales Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge
Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges
Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

Key West Reader on June 30, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Hey, it’s just a TV show right?

Kenosha Kid on June 30, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Dicktator 0bamanure, your days of media dicktator sucking are numbered. You find it hard to imagine that they wont keep bending over forever, but even the fairy tale media knows that Rip Van Winkle eventually awoke. Obamanure, your undoing will be your complete lack of imagination. You’re infuriated because freedom lovers can imagine a world you can only destroy, you petulant crybaby dick. Even the underclass who you would pied piper off a cliff can mostly see through your new clothes. Just check the latest gallup ratings which show your would be power base has a lot more imagination than you.

Western_Civ on June 30, 2011 at 5:05 PM

All of the “substance” has gone up O’s nose.

onlineanalyst on June 30, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Obama didn’t tell the truth:

Surprised?. When has he?

Guess we won’t be seeing The One in another press conference any time soon. Unless it’s rehearsed and taped for future broadcast. Lord knows there are enough whores in the MSM who would gladly take part.

GarandFan on June 30, 2011 at 7:08 PM

GarandFan on June 30, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Need I remind you, GF, they are sluts, not whores. They give it away.

Extrafishy on July 1, 2011 at 5:38 AM

Moammar Gaddafi Saddam Hussein, who prior to Osama bin Laden was responsible for more American deaths than just about anybody on the planet, was threatening to has a history of massacring his people. . . . As a consequence, a guy who was a state sponsor of terrorist operations against the United States of America is pinned down, and the noose is tightening around him.

What’s the difference, really? Why was one SOOOOOOOOO bad and the other a “just” war? At least a) Bush had Congressional approval, b) there was a clear objective – get rid of Saddam and instill a democratic government (arguements about whether or not Bush bungled it afterwards notwithsanding), c) Saddam had a clear history of attacking our interests (and a little thing called a war), and d) Saddam was just waiting for the UN Sanctions to be lifted before he started making mischief again. What do we have in Lybia? a) No Congressional approval, b) no clear objective – just what the heck are we doing there, anyway? Are we going to help rebuild that country like we did Iraq? Or are we just going to hand it over to the Muslim Brotherhood? c) Sure Ghadaffi has a history of poking us, but we were never at war with him in the first place, and he’d been behaving from the time Saddam was pulled from the spider hole until Giggles’ “smart power” team took over. And d) sure Ghadaffi was beginning to make mischief again. Could that be because he sensed that the POTUS is a push-over, especially for Muslims?

Hypocracy, thy name is Obama. Or Liberal. Take your pick

crazy_legs on July 1, 2011 at 8:04 AM