In case you care: Bill Clinton thinks GOP should pick a “more moderate” candidate

posted at 2:45 pm on June 30, 2011 by Tina Korbe

On Good Morning America this morning, former President Bill Clinton had (kind of) kind things to say about GOP presidential frontrunners former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, he said, is “doing a better job as a candidate this time than he did four years ago. [He] comes across as more relaxed and more convicted about what he did do, less willing to just be forced into apologizing for it because it violates some part of his party orthodoxy.”

He claimed not to be surprised by the early success of Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn, because, “I’ve been watching her speak, you know, she comes across as a real person. … The story that they tell is pretty compelling, all those foster children she’s taken in, and children she’s raised and the work she’s done.”

Not surprisingly, he also had praise for the MSM favorite, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman (you know, because, polling at an average of 1.7 percent, he makes a natural addition to any assessment of “the leaders of the pack”).

Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, he said, “did a very nice, a good job for America as ambassador to China. I think he’s quite an impressive man. He’s got an impressive family. I had the honor of meeting one of his children once and having a conversation with her. I think that he’s refreshingly, kind of, unhide-bound. Just comes across as non-ideological — conservative, but non-ideological, practical.”

Earlier in the segment, Clinton highlighted what he’s looking for in a GOP candidate. “The ones I liked are the ones that you think are more moderate,” he said, “’cause I think they’re a little more connected to the real world. And I think they’ll be — they’d be formidable. … But I’m afraid if I say anything nice about them, they’ll lose, for sure.”

Obviously, electability is both tricky and critical: The GOP has to pick a candidate who can win in the general election. But to gauge who can win, I’d rather the GOP look to the electorate and not to somebody like Clinton, the ultimate politician, whose agenda doesn’t exactly match the conservative platform.

After all, Clinton’s not actually afraid moderate candidates will lose the GOP nomination — he’s afraid the GOP will pick someone who can unseat Obama (and that person, I’d argue, is unlikely to be a milquetoast moderate — and very likely to be whichever candidate most clearly articulates a message that resonates with the values of American voters). If Democrats like Clinton and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid could only pick our candidate, they’d pick whoever will bow to Obama most obsequiously, whoever will surrender most readily.

Interestingly, Clinton said nothing about former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, whose position in the polls arguably most resembles Clinton’s at this point in the 1992 Democratic primaries. Perhaps he kept silent because he knows better than anybody Pawlenty could come from behind and win over the public with solid likability, a consistent message and true conservative credibility.

So, two very obvious ideas Clinton should keep in mind if he plans to comment moving forward: 1) The GOP primaries are for GOP voters to decide and 2) Romney and Bachmann might be at the top, and a Huntsman nomination might be on libs’ wish list, but those three aren’t the only candidates in the race.


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Yes Sir Mr. President! We’ll get right on that!
/sarc

Pawlenty, the new Lunesta on June 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Clinton want government to make a deal with big corporate dogs, so that you the tax-paying fools will bail out big business, in perpetuity.

Beware the vailed alliance.

Market up over this, tremendously, based on ‘assurances’.

Send Bill C. and Obama packing.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM

I think William Jefferson Clinton should be interning for a federal prisoner named Bubba.

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM

“’cause I think they’re a little more connected to the real world.

Oh yes, the crowd favorite liberal meme that most conservatives are drooling, brain dead ‘slopers while liberals are the enlightened intelligent members of society.

Bishop on June 30, 2011 at 2:49 PM

“The ones I liked are the ones that you think are more moderate,” he said, “’cause I think they’re a little more connected to the real world. Washington establishment.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Yep more convinced than ever – the ticket to win is either Perry or Palin.

They are the two that strike fear in everybody apparently.

gophergirl on June 30, 2011 at 2:50 PM

In the Matrix, Bubba’s mouth would be erased.

mmmmphmmmmpphhmmmmmmpph!

What is it about liberals who no longer have any real power? They simply can’t step away from the microphone.

Politics = a drug for liberals invented by conservatives that backfired.

BobMbx on June 30, 2011 at 2:50 PM

I had the honor of meeting one of his children once and having a conversation with her.

Did the conversation involve his genitals?

Darth Executor on June 30, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Maybe the Democrats should pick a Liberty-oriented candidate

Chip on June 30, 2011 at 2:51 PM

If Democrats like Clinton and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid could only pick our candidate, they’d pick whoever will bow to Obama most obsequiously, whoever will surrender most readily.

Huntsman,who is the Phantom of Obama.

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 2:51 PM

Translation: Please run someone we can beat or at least someone who won’t destroy our power and stop our theft of the taxpayer.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 2:51 PM

Bill Clinton Petunia thinks GOP should pick a “more moderate” candidate

FIFH

fossten on June 30, 2011 at 2:52 PM

Smell the fear

SP/AW2012

Sonosam on June 30, 2011 at 2:52 PM

most conservatives are drooling, brain dead ‘slopers while liberals are the enlightened intelligent members of society.

Bishop on June 30, 2011 at 2:49 PM

What? You don’t consider Mika enlightened? Back to yer bunker!

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 2:52 PM

Clinton just wants another ugly intern with a blue dress.

search4truth on June 30, 2011 at 2:52 PM

Someone like Dole? Gee, I wonder why?

lonestar1 on June 30, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Wonder what favor he expects from Obama for this. Seriously though, I don’t think the GOP or the voters will make the same mistake they made in 2008. Namely, nominating the only guy in the field who couldn’t beat Obama. Although it’s still early, McCain my decide to be all mavericky and run again.

Tommy_G on June 30, 2011 at 2:53 PM

All we need now is the NYT editorial endorsing their favorite Republican candidate.

Drained Brain on June 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Cause I think they’re a little more connected to the real world.

The ‘real world’ being high taxes bankrupting the nation, scary-looking weapon bans, global warming..

Chip on June 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Definition of IS
present 3d singular of be
dialect present 1st & 2d singular of be
dialect present plural of be

mojo on June 30, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Clinton highlighted what he’s looking for in a GOP candidate. “The ones I liked are the ones that you think are more moderate,”

Straight from Bubba’s eHarmony profile. Seriously, he sounds like he’s giving pro tips on how to pick interns.

Christien on June 30, 2011 at 2:56 PM

And I think your party should select a candidate who is at least passingly familiar with the Constitution.

DrMagnolias on June 30, 2011 at 2:56 PM

Translation: Please run someone we can beat or at least someone who won’t destroy our power and stop our theft of the taxpayer.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 2:51 PM

Why isn’t that freaking obvious to people?

Chip on June 30, 2011 at 2:57 PM

It’s like the definition of insanity: keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. No wonder the democrats and their media flunkies LOVE Romney and Huntsman. Republican-lite=democrat so why vote for an imposter when you can have the real thing. No, we’ve tried working with democrats for over 40 years – at least since the Kennedy administration and look where that’s gotten us. We need a contrast to the disasterous democrat monopolies we have in this country – someone who will break the death grip the democrats have on us. Rush is right when he says we don’t need to work with democrats, we need to beat them. And replace them with good conservatives. We’ve tried it every other way an nothing’s worked so far.

mozalf on June 30, 2011 at 2:58 PM

After all, Clinton’s not actually afraid moderate candidates will lose the GOP nomination — he’s afraid the GOP will pick someone who can unseat Obama

WTH are you talking about? The Clintons hate Obama.

thphilli on June 30, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Yep more convinced than ever – the ticket to win is either Perry or Palin.

They are the two that strike fear in everybody apparently.

gophergirl on June 30, 2011 at 2:50 PM

If I were a Dem, I would LOVE it if Repubs picked Palin.

Obama kills her in every poll: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_palin_vs_obama-1169.html

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Willy’s a great judge of character.

“Kiss it.”

“You better put some ice on that.”

“I did not. have. sexual relations. with that woman. Miss Lewinski. Not once. Ever.”

Akzed on June 30, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Billy can also call up his old buddy Ross Peerot and see if Ross will take one more for the team. That’d do it for little Bammie.

slickwillie2001 on June 30, 2011 at 3:01 PM

If I were a Dem, I would LOVE it if Repubs picked Palin.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Then why does the media and the left keep attacking her? If Obama is such a sure thing against Palin, wouldn’t their strategy be to pump her up and make her look more attractive to people so she wins the nomination?

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:03 PM

No doubt little Bammie hates Palin with a burning passion. When she joined McCain’s team she was able to bring in campaign crowds just as big as little Bammie’s, and without a free warmup rock and roll concert. Like Miller said, she is deep inside his coconut.

I don’t know if that is a rational political fear however, or just something that as a narcissist he took as a deep personal insult.

slickwillie2001 on June 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Bill Clinton promotes a “more moderate” GOP candidate…

“Common Values”

Hillary ’12!

She has Rush’s ’08 primary endorsement.

maverick muse on June 30, 2011 at 3:05 PM

Then why does the media and the left keep attacking her? If Obama is such a sure thing against Palin, wouldn’t their strategy be to pump her up and make her look more attractive to people so she wins the nomination?

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Again, the media doesn’t pick our candidates. We do. Them attacking or not attacking won’t make one bit of difference.

Everybody already knows who Palin is. And most don’t like what they see. Sorry.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Under oath:

“I did not. have. sexual relations. with that woman. Miss Lewinski. Not once. Ever.”

Because I could.

maverick muse on June 30, 2011 at 3:06 PM

I had the honor of meeting one of his children once and having a conversation with her.

Did the conversation involve his genitals?

Darth Executor on June 30, 2011 at 2:50 PM

I hope it didn’t end with “better put some ice on that”.

Extrafishy on June 30, 2011 at 3:07 PM

So, two very obvious ideas Clinton should keep in mind if he plans to comment moving forward

Clinton, though I am no fan of his, is nobody’s fool. He has his own agenda and is not commenting as a journalist or objective observer. So no offense, but it is somewhat pointless for young Tina to advise ole Bill on how to comment properly on a presidential horserace.

Missy on June 30, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Everybody already knows who Palin is. And most don’t like what they see. Sorry.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Hey Village, we found your idiot.

Extrafishy on June 30, 2011 at 3:09 PM

I think William Jefferson Clinton should be interning for a federal prisoner named Bubba.

FIFY

single stack on June 30, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Everybody already knows who Palin is. And most don’t like what they see. Sorry.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:06 PM

It’s primary season. Say what you’re for and against, who you do support for whatever reason.

But unless you admit to being an authoritarian, don’t presume to tell the public what the public should think. Look at how that promoted what “everybody already knows” about Global Warming as if empirical science, for instance.

maverick muse on June 30, 2011 at 3:10 PM

I don’t really care what Bill Clinton thinks, nor do I think Bill Clinton really cares if Barack Obama is re-elected.

SukieTawdry on June 30, 2011 at 3:10 PM

In case you care: Bill Clinton thinks GOP should pick a “more moderate” candidate

I don’t (care, that is)….but thanks for the heads up. Truth be told, I think Bill Clinton would rather see the GOP do whatever would get Hillary elected POTUS.

tgharris on June 30, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Obviously, electability is both tricky and critical: The GOP has to pick a candidate who can win in the general election.

FOOL!

Freddy on June 30, 2011 at 3:11 PM

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Just like Obama beats her in Alaska and Perry in Texas?

It seems that polls become more and more useless every day. As an example we constantly see polls telling us how Americans love gay marriage. Yet it gets defeated every single time the people vote on it. I am personally almost to the point of ignoring them altogether. Especially when a poll is so bad it actually claims Obama beats Perry in Texas.

Did you know I am the Pope?

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Breaking: Clinton’s advice on how to pick a fine cigar.

Christien on June 30, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Hey Village, we found your idiot.

Extrafishy on June 30, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Just look at the polls, dude.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Again, the media doesn’t pick our candidates. We do. Them attacking or not attacking won’t make one bit of difference.

Everybody already knows who Palin is. And most don’t like what they see. Sorry.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:06 PM

That doesn’t answer my question.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Breaking: Clinton’s advice on how to pick a fine cigar.

Christien on June 30, 2011 at 3:13 PM

He might pick a fine cigar but he picks God awful humidors.

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Just look at the polls, dude.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Well hell! Let’s have the election today because the polls will never change!

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Earlier in the segment, Clinton highlighted what he’s looking for in a GOP candidate.

Yeah, because he’ll be voting a straight GOP ticket in November 2012.

Go get the blue dress cleaned.

BuckeyeSam on June 30, 2011 at 3:16 PM

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Um, nice try. There are no outliers when it comes to Obama beating Palin. He beats her in EVERY. SINGLE. POLL.

Every one.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Well hell! Let’s have the election today because the polls will never change!

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:15 PM

You’re right. They won’t. The economy’s horrible now and Palin is incredibly unpopular. Do we all have to be in soup lines before everyone magically falls in love with her?

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:17 PM

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:16 PM

I know. Just like President Kerry beat Bush in every single exit poll…oh wait.

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:17 PM

But unless you admit to being an authoritarian, don’t presume to tell the public what the public should think.

maverick muse on June 30, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Oh, I don’t. The public (including a large percentage of Republicans) is quite clear on their dislike of Sarah Palin.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:18 PM

When is Clinton going on TV and telling us that Americans should be electing no Democrat who is to the left of Evan Bayh?

I mean, seriously, Obama sat in the pew of the church of a lunatic for 20 years. No one saw this coming?

BuckeyeSam on June 30, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Yeah, I agree, Bill.

Sarah Palin sounded pretty moderate to me.

Comparing to that loon in the WH.

Sir Napsalot on June 30, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Hillary’s panicking that it’s her last chance.

But then, PM Golda Meyer was older than Margaret Thatcher while directing national/international politics. And Queen Elizabeth’s no spring chicken, either.

Clinton, though I am no fan of his, is nobody’s fool. He has his own agenda …

Yep, always has and always will.

Hillary’12

…with Sec./State Huma of the Muslim Brotherhood US Democrat Party alliance.

maverick muse on June 30, 2011 at 3:19 PM

I know. Just like President Kerry beat Bush in every single exit poll…oh wait.

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Ok, dude. Ignore every single poll published in the last two years that shows Obama beating Palin by a wide margin. Have fun in la-la land.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:20 PM

I think the GOP should meet with Bill Clinton to come up with a budget. Obama doesn’t want to show up, fine. You know Clinton would love to meet with them. Man does he love the spotlight and his legacy.

kerrhome on June 30, 2011 at 3:24 PM

President Br’er Rabbit begs us not to throw him in the briar patch.

OhioCoastie on June 30, 2011 at 3:24 PM

In my book he’s saying -anyone to the left of Sarah Palin is fine.

Don L on June 30, 2011 at 3:25 PM

You’re right. They won’t.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:17 PM

That’s kinda dumb. Why are you afraid of her running if you think she’ll flame out?

Plus, you never answered my question.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Of course, that depends on what your definition of “moderate” is.

Heh.

I don’t watch GMA. Did Billy Jeff bite his lip and tell people that he feels their pain? That’s how you can tell he’s being sincere.

malclave on June 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM

Oh yes, the crowd favorite liberal meme that most conservatives are drooling, brain dead ‘slopers

Bishop on June 30, 2011 at 2:49 PM

And drive big ol’ Harleys…

Heh.

Bruno Strozek on June 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM

Well, Bub, I think you Donks should pick a more moderate, less socialist candidate as well. See how that works?

He might pick a fine cigar but he picks God awful humidors.

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:15 PM

LMAO. There is coffee all over my laptop now.

CantCureStupid on June 30, 2011 at 3:27 PM

They will tell us who they like and who they fear

Kini on June 30, 2011 at 3:28 PM

It seems that polls become more and more useless every day

“Polls show” and “studies prove” are two of the most common forms of leftist propaganda. They always reach foregone conclusions and are designed to sway opinion and create false truths.

Don L on June 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM

That’s kinda dumb. Why are you afraid of her running if you think she’ll flame out?

Plus, you never answered my question.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:25 PM

I don’t know how many more millions of times I need to say this. She has enough fans to win the nomination, but not with the general. That’s why I don’t want her to run.

Got it?

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM

They will tell us who they like and who they fear

Kini on June 30, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Yeah, they really don’t like Palin or Perry. Kinda mum on Pawlenty.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Yep more convinced than ever – the ticket to win is either Perry or Palin.
They are the two that strike fear in everybody apparently.
gophergirl on June 30, 2011 at 2:50 PM
If I were a Dem, I would LOVE it if Repubs picked Palin.
Obama kills her in every poll: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_palin_vs_obama-1169.html
nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Your lib is showing

Sonosam on June 30, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Ok, dude. Ignore every single poll published in the last two years that shows Obama beating Palin by a wide margin. Have fun in la-la land.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Ever hear of Gov. Jesse Ventura? On election night, he and his posse were at watching poll results from the lounge at a dog racetrack just south of Minneapolis. One TV station had a reporter there, you know, the 3am Sunday news anchor, and there weren’t any MN State Police.

Nobody thought he would win. Even him.

Surprise.

“We shocked the world” (try that after a gallon of gin)

BobMbx on June 30, 2011 at 3:31 PM

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” — Barry Goldwater.

Caiwyn on June 30, 2011 at 3:31 PM

I don’t know how many more millions of times I need to say this. She has enough fans to win the nomination, but not with the general. That’s why I don’t want her to run.

Got it?

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM

So you’re basing your conclusion that she can’t win based on polls 16 months out from the election even though Palin hasn’t even announced much less campaigned?

Don’t you think if she runs an effective campaign she can change her numbers?

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM

The public (including a large percentage of Republicans) is quite clear on their dislike of Sarah Palin.

From the constitutional platform, I critically weigh candidate records. But when the neoconservative pool of candidates boils down to own the GOP ’12 ticket, based on their record, I’d rather be stuck supporting either Palin or Bachmann than the “winnable” corporatists, Romney or Perry.

As far as choosing a personality for potus, that’s as dumb as it gets. Platform, agenda and policy affect life. Whereas, you can always tune out an unpleasant voice, even if it’s Palin’s.

As you said, The public (including a large percentage of Republicans) is quite clear on their dislike of [Barack Obama]. I’m not the only one who quit listening to his voice, unwilling to be verbally assaulted by the potus and his administration at every point given his ultra over-exposure from the media, even as he absurdly abdicates responsibility as if to the TOTUS.

maverick muse on June 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM

The GOP primaries are for GOP voters to decide

Unfortunately, that’s not true in states that have open primaries. They should close them ASAP.

kakypat on June 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM

CantCureStupid on June 30, 2011 at 3:27 PM

I am glad somebody got that :P

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM

I don’t know how many more millions of times I need to say this. She has enough fans to win the nomination, but not with the general. That’s why I don’t want her to run.
Got it?
nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM

of course that is twisted logic don’t you think?

Sonosam on June 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Gosh and the GOP thinks Hillary should have picked a less “moderate”husband.

Don L on June 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM

doesnt bill have any philandering to do…uhhh Mr. ex-Pres….shhhhhhhhh!

NY Conservative on June 30, 2011 at 3:34 PM

The GOP primaries are for GOP voters to decide

Unfortunately, that’s not true in states that have open primaries. They should close them ASAP.

kakypat on June 30, 2011 at 3:32 PM

That is because the GOP has deliberately chosen not to fix that giant hole in their armor. It is essentail that their “friends on the other side of the isle” actually pick our candidate!

Don L on June 30, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Breaking: Clinton’s advice on how to pick a fine cigar.

Christien on June 30, 2011 at 3:13 PM

..eeeeeeeewwwwww! You just put me off the cold anchovy pizza I was having for breakfast!

The War Planner on June 30, 2011 at 3:37 PM

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” — Barry Goldwater.

Caiwyn on June 30, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Do you know the only two people who could possibly beat Johnson that year were George Washington and Abraham Lincoln? He was riding a wave of sympathy that not only got him an astounding 65% of the vote, but lifted the fortunes of all Democrats running that year.

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Thanks Bill, but we Republicans will pick our OWN candidate.

On the other hand, you may want to start working on a more moderate Democrat to replace Obama.

landlines on June 30, 2011 at 3:37 PM

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Excuse me, 61%.

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Yo Nick

SP is mere points behind the frontrunner and she isn’t doing anything.

Wait till she runs and starts peppering bongo on a regular basis.

After all the BS directed at us in one form or another, people will support the candidate who’s special I terest is the citizens of the US

Sonosam on June 30, 2011 at 3:40 PM

hat’s kinda dumb. Why are you afraid of her running if you think she’ll flame out?

Plus, you never answered my question.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 3:25 PM

I don’t know how many more millions of times I need to say this. She has enough fans to win the nomination, but not with the general. That’s why I don’t want her to run.

Got it?

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:29 PM

You’re buying into the media meme. Where was Barack in the polls right now? Even the MSM were already crowning Hillary, believed there was no way a 1 year senator could beat her, and that if he did his lack of experience would kill him.

It will all rest on the economy and how effective the campaign is. The worst the economy, the less effective the campaign has to be.

I don’t care what the polling says right now. Most Americans still believe she said she can see Alaska from her house, but haven’t really investigated beyond that. Most Americans didn’t look into her record or anything else about her when she was running for VP, becuase she was ONLY VP.

Most Americans will actually seek the truth when a lot of their family is unemployed and their house value has tanked and the economy is in the crapper when considering who to vote for President. When they give her a second look and then weigh here against 4 more years of utter, dismal failure, Palin or almost any other GOP candidate can clean his clock.

PastorJon on June 30, 2011 at 3:43 PM

She has enough fans to win the nomination, but not with the general.

If polls report anything, it’s that Anyone But Obama will win in ’12.

So get over the sexism or whatever the exclusive, elitist hang-up; because Palin is distinctly not Obama. Whereas, Romney and Perry are elitist corporatist puppets as is Obama.

What’s glaringly apparent is that voters are not willing to honestly admit that they THEMSELVES refuse to change the guard. They themselves want more of the corruption rather than cut it, let alone defeat it.

Bitch and moan about establishment corruption, and vote for more! It’s the Republican way, stuck on stupid. And the satisfaction with the status quo, despite our ruin, is not the politicians’ monopoly, because the voters support more of the same so long as it wears the proper badge, in this case, “Republican”.

btw, Democrats charge others with corruption, but don’t bitch and moan about the corruption. They pass it on just as the Republicans pass it on, though the rhetoric sounds different. They aims to please.

maverick muse on June 30, 2011 at 3:44 PM

comment delay

I didn’t use any taboo or links

maverick muse on June 30, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Um, nice try. There are no outliers when it comes to Obama beating Palin. He beats her in EVERY. SINGLE. POLL.

Every one.

nickj116 on June 30, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Oh, give it up. The polls are meaningless. (1) Polls are easily fudged by skewing the samples; (2) they tend to be conducted either by or on behalf of organizations that tend to push for particular political outcomes; (3) the polls keep comparing a sitting President with a woman who is still a private citizen and will probably remain a private citizen at least until the end of July; (4) polls for an election are useless sixteen months before an election; (5) the Palin vs. Obama polls are pushed aggressively, while the polls matching Obama against other candidates, including candidates who have actually declared, don’t seem to get nearly as much press, if they get any press at all; (6) these polls have often been showing pretty much ALL candidates doing poorly against Obama; (7) the people pushing these polls on these threads apparently want us to abandon Palin but mostly have no idea who we should support in her stead; (8) we who continue to support Palin, in spite of all of these polls, don’t support a candidate merely because other people give the candidate high numbers, but because we are convinced that, if she should be elected, she would make one hell of a fine President.

Polls, schmolls. Pick a damn candidate and tell us why that person would make a fine President and why we should flock to that person.

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 3:48 PM

And after all that, I forgot to add that Reagan was down 25 points against Carter just WEEKS before the election. (Yes, I just compared Palin to Reagan again. Deal with it.)

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 3:49 PM

I’ll make a note of that, Bill. Thanks for the input.

Next!

Gothguy on June 30, 2011 at 3:51 PM

BJ Clenis’ opinion on our next candidate is about as relevant as his opinion on what outfit my daughter should wear.

David in ATL on June 30, 2011 at 3:54 PM

The day I’d take advice from a former adulterous, fetishist president, like liberal Bill Clinton, is the day I drop dead.

Seriously. Does anyone still listen to this baffoon, and actually consider giving his crap any credence? If so, God help us all!

capejasmine on June 30, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Good news

FLASH: Geithner considering leaving Treasury after Debt Debate…

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 4:01 PM

McCain/Dole 2012 !!!

That’s the ticket! Oh yeah!

bitsy on June 30, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Good news

FLASH: Geithner considering leaving Treasury after Debt Debate…

Schadenfreude on June 30, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Well, that’s nice. What Marxist lunatic is Obama going to replace him with?

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Fact: GOP has never lost a presidential election when they choose a conservative candidate.

carbon_footprint on June 30, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Fact: GOP has never lost a presidential election when they choose a conservative candidate.

carbon_footprint on June 30, 2011 at 4:18 PM

1964. But that was only because JFK was assassinated.

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Where are the two Bush’s saying that the Dems should pikc more moderate candidate?

PackerBronco on June 30, 2011 at 4:27 PM

In other breaking news, General (government) Motors thinks Ford should move away from making full sized trucks and focus in electric cars.

MikeA on June 30, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Fact: GOP has never lost a presidential election when they choose a conservative candidate.

carbon_footprint on June 30, 2011 at 4:18 PM

1964. But that was only because JFK was assassinated.

NotCoach on June 30, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Yep, a pity vote. Had JFK not been assassinated, he likely would have lost the election of 1964 due to his bumbling incompetence. His industrial-scale adultery might also have been exposed.

slickwillie2001 on June 30, 2011 at 4:33 PM

He means a moderate like him.

shick on June 30, 2011 at 4:34 PM

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