Texas poll: Obama 47, Perry 45

posted at 6:50 pm on June 29, 2011 by Allahpundit

This one’s even less convincing than yesterday’s dumb Obama/Palin poll of Alaska, but it’s summertime and the horserace bloggin’ is easy. Fish are jumpin’ and the news cycle is slow:

Only 33% of voters in the state think he should make a bid for the White House compared to 59% opposed to him running. More surprising than that? Perry actually trails Barack Obama 47-45 in a hypothetical match up in the state.

Perry’s trailing Obama certainly has nothing to do with the President being popular. Only 42% of voters in the state like the job he’s doing to 55% who rate him poorly. Texas is a Republican state to begin with him and Obama has a lot more Democrats (14%) who disapprove of him than GOP voters who approve (6%) and beyond that he’s on negative ground with independents at 46/47.

Perry, however, is almost as unpopular. Only 43% of voters approve of him with 52% giving him bad marks. Most striking in Perry’s numbers is a horrible 33/62 standing with independents. He also has 21% of Republicans disapproving of him while only 12% of Democrats cross over to give him good marks. Perry may prove to be a strong Presidential candidate but his numbers in Texas are nothing to write home about.

Palin also supposedly trails Obama by two points. In Texas, which hasn’t voted Democratic since Jimmy Carter was elected in the aftermath of Watergate. (Romney, T-Paw, and Bachmann fare better, each leading Obama by various margins.) Anyone seriously believe that? Even a squish like McCain took Texas by 12 points despite an exit poll showing an almost even split among Republicans, Democrats, and independents. What’s that margin going to look like after four full years of Hopenchange “magic,” with a local boy possibly as the GOP nominee?

On the other hand, Ed Kilgore of TNR noted a few weeks ago that Perry may not be the rock star at home that he is nationally:

On top of it all, persistent doubts about Perry’s competence (and in some quarters, honesty) have made him less than a political powerhouse in his home state of Texas, even as the state’s powerful Republican trend in the last decade, along with an energy-industry-boom, have given him enormous advantages. In 2006, for instance, he only won 39 percent of the general election vote in a peculiar, four-way gubernatorial race (with one independent candidate, the comedic musician and novelist Kinky Friedman, probably taking most of his double-digit-percentage vote from Perry’s Democratic opponent). In 2010, meanwhile, he won by solid margins against his primary challenger, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, and his general election opponent, Houston Mayor Bill White—but this was right at the peak of the Tea Party uprising, which Perry very successfully exploited, and the fact remains that he was vulnerable enough to draw these legitimate challenges in the first place. His relationship with Texas Republicans, moreover, has always been somewhat shaky, as evidenced by the revolt of GOP legislators against a business tax plan Perry pushed through a few years ago, and his rumored frosty relations with his great benefactors, the Bush family. And even his friends in the social conservative wing of the Texas GOP were appalled by his 2007 proposal to require that every sixth-grade girl in Texas be vaccinated for the HPV virus.

All in all, you have to wonder why Texans, including hard-core conservatives, seem less impressed than people in other states with the prospect of a Perry presidential run. Some appear to be stunned at the very idea, treating him as a sort of Chauncey Gardiner figure who has stumbled, through remarkable luck, into the national spotlight.

Can a guy who’s been governor for 10 and a half years really be regarded so poorly by his constituents? Well, the Texas Tribune polled the locals on the GOP presidential field late last month, before Perrymania had taken off. First place was “don’t know” with 14 percent; Palin was next at 12 percent. Rick Perry? Tenth place at just four percent, two points behind … Donald Trump. Hmmmm. (However, 48 percent said they’d vote for the GOP nominee, whoever that may be, versus just 30 percent who said they’d vote for Obama.)

But that was then and this is now. Two more national polls for you to chew on as a gloss on this. First, a Marist poll of tea-party supporters found Perry leading with 20 percent, three points ahead of, er, Mitt Romney. I shall graciously let that result pass without comment. And a new Fox News national poll published within the past hour has Romney on top with 18 percent but Perry in second place with a bullet at 13 percent. Bachmann is third with 11 percent, then Giuliani with 10 and Palin with eight. With a field that wide open, how does RP not run?

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If elections only allowed Journo-Tards to vote, then we’d see an actual 47-45 result!

MNHawk on June 30, 2011 at 7:22 AM

If McCain hadn’t selected Palin as his VP, his margin of victory would have been less by as much as 5 points. I was all set to write-in a Republican until he picked her…

golfer1 on June 30, 2011 at 9:24 AM

I’m not a huge Perry fan, but I suspect that the polling is skewed coming off a very nasty budget battle – the public schools just got told they were going to have to cut their spending. Even though we don’t allow unions, our “associations” are still affiliated with the national teacher unions and they put a crap load of money into fighting the spending cuts. Toss in the debate on Sanctuary Cities, TSA groping, and Border Security debates and it was a rough session. Long story short…. there is just no way that in the long run that Obama out polls anyone in Texas – even our liberals don’t like him very much.

The real idiocy of the education campaign was a complete lack of understanding in how Texas’ budget is formed. The Comptroller provides the legislature and the various State Agencies with the projected revenue for the next 2 years. The Agencies base their budgets on the money that will be available and then the Legislature hashes out who gets the priority to make the bottom line balance. Most other states set their spending and then go look for revenue and then pitch a fit when they don’t find enough money to pay their bills.

Even though we’re doing pretty good in the midst of a recession, there was just not as much money available as in previous years. Plus, there is the pending costs of many Obama issues that have the potential to seriously stress the State budget including the significant expansion of the Medicaid rolls (Obamacare), new EPA regulations, new costs in the food safety bill which will likely take land out of production, and the drilling restrictions both on and off shore…. oh and we’ve just had how many thousand acres of range fires which will be taking more land out of production, burned planted crops, and destroyed livestock (that’s “hamburger meat” if you’re wondering).

Texas’ success has rarely been about the leadership of any one individual, but rather our historically independent point of view that restricts the abilities of our State Legislature to cause too much mischief. Every single State Agency has a Sunset Provision and has to justify it’s existence. Our Legislature only meets for a limited number of months every other year and our State Capital Buildings have the highest number of Conceal Carry Permit Holders in a given location. We have 4 of the largest US cities, but the bulk of the State is rural and is well represented.

Amazingly, even in this “modern” world The State Fair of Texas, the San Antonio Livestock Expo and the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo rank in the top 20 of Ticketmasters “hottest” family event ticket sales and 4-H and FFA still make up the largest youth organizations in the State (we also have the largest membership numbers nationally). And all of the organizations I just mentioned represent the largest source of privately funded college scholarships and charity contributions. We have 3 strong University Systems (Texas Tech, Texas A&M, and University of Texas) complimented by nearly 200 unaffiliated public and private universities, community colleges and trade schools.

I could carry on for several more paragraphs about the unique strengths of Texas. IMHO, I don’t see Perry as a good White House candidate, but others do. While he’s done a decent job, his success has as much to do with the history of the State he has governed as his own leadership. Those advantages are not available to a US President in a federal setting no matter how good their Leadership. Bush was a pretty good governor for Texas, but he quickly learned that federal limitations were not going to allow for the great things we have here to be replicated at the national level.

but that’s just my 2 bits…..

2nd Ammendment Mother on June 30, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Maybe if the people of Texas don’t really like him we should consider that important.

I mean the people of Arizona, me, told you that Janet N. was who she is… we knew what she would be like. So… If the conservatives of Texas say something about what it is like to have Perry govern we should not ignore it.

petunia on June 30, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Well, based on this other bit of info from the same poll – we now know exactly how serious to take this one:

Democrats may have a shot at the seat being vacated by Republican U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, according to a new poll from Public Policy Polling, a left-leaning polling firm.

Now that’s really funny!

2nd Ammendment Mother on June 30, 2011 at 5:47 PM

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